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Space...The final frontier..Have we found it?

What a fantastic accomplishment of the Voyager team. My main regret is that Carl Sagan isn't with us to share in this moment of triumph as the first creation of humankind reaches and crosses the boundary of the solar system into interstellar space.

I can hear him now, "This is a wonderful day. The spacecraft has traveled billions and billions of miles to achieve this milestone. Perhaps we will touch other life through our efforts as we reach into the galaxy of billions and billions of stars, many just like our own."

TD
 
Agreed. Carl would have been thrilled about this. The fact that we actuall have sent a man made object out of our solar system and it is still gathering and transmitting data is a huge accomplishment for us.

Who knows, perhaps someone or something will receive one of our messages......


Ven
 
venray1 said:
Who knows, perhaps someone or something will receive one of our messages...Ven
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This is true. My question Ven (and anyone else with an opinion), is do you think that this is necessarily a good thing?

My concern is somewhat exemplified in the old Flash Gordon series... remember Ming the Merciless? He said (and here I'm forced to paraphrase), "You pathetic earthlings! If you had any notion of the real nature of the universe you'd have kept to your own planet and prayed no one found you!"

If someone/something is able to retrieve and analyze Voyager and understand its messages, don't you think it likely they''ll be much more advanced than we are. Maybe they'll be so much more beyond us, that we're viewed as convenient slave labor or worse yet, a food source. What would make this unlikely - the idea that they're at least as evolved or perhaps more so than us - that guarantees their sense of morality? We seek protection in their basic sense of good and bad?

Do you think good and bad are universal concepts? If I were to wager I would guess that "good" and "bad" are not universal. Hell's bells, they're not even universal here on good old planet earth.

Just wondered. These and many other thoughts could keep me up nights - except that I count on forty cups of coffee a day to do that. 😉

(Polite opposing points of view are most welcome.)
 
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Glad you asked SS..no I do not necessarily believe it is a good thing...who knows what is out there that may decide to pay a visit...

Food for thought......:wow:
 
Conflicting theories...

This debate has been going on since sci-fi evolved gents...lol. The most widely accepted view is that anything intelligent enough to find/understand and backtrack an artifact such as that would be beyond the need for what we now think of as energy consumption. They might actually be willing to help us a bit, but odds are that we wouldn't be worth the time to exterminate.......Q
 
Or they are happy with who they are and just arent looking for anything else....

On a somewhat related topic...FULL LUNAR ECLIPSE tomorrow night...


Ray
 
Oh come on, Dan. They'll take one look at us, and put a warning sign right at the edge of the Solar System. "BEWARE: Violence, Stupidity, and Chaos abounds within." 😀

This is quite an accomplishment, maybe it will get the US to start back on it's old "Drive to new accomplishments in space," as opposed to the stall right now.🙄 For now, go China!!!😀
 
Fascinating subject Ven~! It's one of my favorites~!

We send enough crap into the natural order of things by accident, it's nice to see something taking a trip intentionally! I have to agree with the basic premise that anything intelligent enough to encounter a brand new life form and communicate with it, is probably beyond the desire to simply destroy. ((This coming from a strictly human view, of course.)) Maybe it will turn out to be a positive thing. Seems there are those among us who have no doubt there is life out there....let's just hope they dig us.

There was an old movie, called "How to Serve Humans." Sounds pretty great, until you realize it was the name of a cookbook!:wow:

Joby, astronaut wannabe~!
 
One of my favorite twilight zone episodes Joby.."To Serve Man"

Being a fan of all Sci-Fi for my entire life, I too am hopeful that there is something out there to communicate with. It could be that the intelligent lifeforms were just waiting to see if we would stay put or not and now they MAY come calling.....one can only hope.


Ray 😉
 
Maybe they will find intelligent life beyond the cosmos!!😀 and planets that are livable.
 
I remember when the people of my home planet first left our solar system. Congratulations to all humans on your earthly accomplishments.
 
Thank you, Ray!

As Joby said, this is a fascinating subject (channeling Spock 🙂 ); thanks for posting that link, Ray.

The eclipse was awe-inspiring, not to mention the six-pointed star formed by the Moon and 5 planets (although I only saw the moon and 3 planets). Apparently that's a very rare conjunction.

For some reason, though, at the moment I have a song stuck in my head: "We'll make great pets...." (Porno for Pyros) :bunny: :cat: :fish: :dog: :rotate:
 
venray1 said:
One of my favorite twilight zone episodes..."To Serve Man".
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Mine too! "Stop! Don't get on their ship! It's a cookbook!"

But, hey, it's the cycle of life, right - predator & prey...

Just as it is here on earth, in the universe there will be dangerous beings AND friendly ones.

Button :smilestar
 
TummyDragon said:
What a fantastic accomplishment of the Voyager team. My main regret is that Carl Sagan isn't with us to share in this moment of triumph as the first creation of humankind reaches and crosses the boundary of the solar system into interstellar space.

I can hear him now, "This is a wonderful day. The spacecraft has traveled billions and billions of miles to achieve this milestone. Perhaps we will touch other life through our efforts as we reach into the galaxy of billions and billions of stars, many just like our own."

TD
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Knowing Carl an urn with his ashes in is on board the damn thing. :blaugh:


*the author knows that Sagan died after the launch of the probe, but that would have taken the funniness out of the joke. LAUGH YOU BASTARDS!!!!! :dogpile: *
 
At the speed it's going, it'll take approximately 800,000 years to get within a few AU's of Sirius. (The general direction it's heading in.) We'll know we've "arrived" as a scientific race when we send out a ship that catches it up and harvests it for retrieval and analysis.
 
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