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Star Wars Vs Star Trek

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Ok which do you like better? Or do you like both? Let the arguing begin (but lets play nice now). This has probably been posted before but in light of the new star wars movie I thought I would bring it up again. Personally I always like the Star Trek movies more than Star Wars but I do enjoy Star wars as well.
 
I like them both. Each seem to present different schools of thought to the realm of sci fi. One thing I've always loved about the Star Wars movies, is that they are presented like the old serials of the 1950's. The spectacular opening music, the trapezoidal text synopsis, the Episode titles, etc. Star Wars seems to have more flair than Star Trek. George Lucas is very steeped in film lore, and the films have that timeless quality that appeals to both adults and kids.

Star Trek has much more material out there so there are many more ongoing sagas and dramas unfolding, happening, and resolving. My personal favorite Star Trek Series are The Original Series with Kirk and Spock, and The Next Generation with Picard and Riker. The others I find to be fundamentally and conceptually flawed, but most of them had at least a couple of good episodes.

Star Trek Deep Space Nine was a standing contradiction. How can you have a Star Trek series about a space station? To trek involves motion. To be stationary means no motion. Still, they had that one episode where some of the crew went back in time to Kirk's Enterprise during "The Trouble With Tribbles." Also the Dominion war was kind of cool.

Voyager was a little too much like Lost In Space in its conception. You have no Star Fleet involvement, no Star Bases, and Janeway answered to nobody. Still, they had their "Year Of Hell" which was pretty good, but I was never able to accept Janeway as a Captain.

Enterprise never grabbed me. I'm afraid it's just not worth watching. This series has convinced me that the nearly fourty years of Star Trek television has run it's course, and it's time for it to die.

The Star Trek movies are decent entertainment but not as interesting as the Star Wars movies. Again, I believe this is because the Star Wars movies are serial in nature. Each one continues where the previous one left off. Star Trek movies are mostly Stand-Alone, except perhaps for the second and third movies.
 
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Star Trek all the way

The Original Trek wins hands down. Kirk was a man's man. He could be compationet when it was needed, romantic when he wanted, and kicked as when he had too. Nobody and I mean nobody played a better vilian then Ricardo Montalbond's perfomance of Kahn.

For the record Star Trek II III and IV all run togther. Enterprise had hit and miss epasodes.
 
Of course, I'm partial to Star Wars and consider it far superior...but that's only from my point of view. The things that I look for, I found in Star Wars...you know, the moral stuff, the "saga" feel, but I still enjoy Star Trek on a pure sci-fi level. When I'm looking for that, Star Trek rocks.

The only real problem I ever had with Star Trek is that it always seemed geared toward the techies, rather than appealing to less specific audience. I really got into The Next Generation, but was always caught in the same trap...you invest 55 minutes to the storyline of a program and wonder how they're going to get out of this one and such...and in the last five minutes Geordi or someone figures out how to modify the pulse-phase intiator on the transporter to reconfigure the alpha-node transflux of the big,scary nebula so that they can use a micro-burst of warp energy to collapse the internal sub-nucleic pressure to novinate a star into....you get the picture.

Trust me, I've been to Star Wars gatherings and a couple Trek conventions and I gotta say that the Trek guys are far bigger geeks than us Star Wars guys. :xlime:

That being said, however, I have a fond place in my heart for Star Trek, and found most of the movies to be highly entertaining. I actually liked Deep Space Nine, as it centered around a more spiritual theme and got pretty deep for awhile. Plus, the Reliant was the one really kick-ass ship that Star Trek had. Always wondered why it was all capital ships and no fighters in Trek.

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The problem with the Star wars VS star Trek is the fact that so much more of the Star trek world is exposed to us then the star wars unless you read the books.

Frankly i loved DS9. i thought it had stronger actors and stronger continuety then any of the other series. I also loved Gul Dukat as a main villian. Not to meantion Garrik. Instead of the stand alone episodes you got with ST:TNG, because the space station was in one place they could continuosly build on the world around them.

Also, even if you don't like DS9 for plot and story, you have to give them points fo taking the space combat to a whole new level. before DS9, basically you had ships in a stationary position just exchanging pot shots. DS9 totaly reworked space combat to an almost fluid dance.
 
I've always thought that Star Trek: The Next Generation was one of the best TV series ever. I hated the original Star Trek and Enterprise though. I thought DS9 started out weak, but Michael Dorn added a lot to that series later on. Voyager was pretty much doomed from the beginning, but it had its moments.

As far as movies go, though, I'd say I prefer Return of the Jedi and The Empire Strikes Back more than any Star Trek movie. Generations and First Contact were good, but I can't say I cared much for Insurrection or Nemesis. The only Star Trek movie I liked a lot that was based on the original series was Star Trek IV. Seeing Spock react to that punk with the boombox on the bus was priceless.
 
Hmm

It's hard to compare. Star Wars was kinda epic in scope (one big story) where as Star Trek was something different every week. I will say for it's time, the original Star Trek was revolutionary. It metaphorically addressed so many timely issues of the day without ever seeming preachy or partisan. In this day and age of polital correctness and the fashionable political bashing, I admire the original Star Trek for how it presented itself. In many ways it was balanced and had a way of showing different sides of complicated social issues and philosophical issues. All this an a 6 year old could still watch and be entertained. I think Rodenberry is just 10 times smarter than Lucas.
 
The most recent Star Trek move "Nemesis" was just awful, I thought. Troi and Riker get married. Oh how very very and too too! But what really tweaked me about the plot was the crew's reaction to the discovery of the other Soong type android. "OMG, another android! And it looks just like Data!! This is just incredible!!!" Uh, hello! Anybody remember Lore?? Come on, Enterprise crew, surely you remember him. Data's "evil twin brother?" He only tried to take over the Enterprise during his first visit, nearly killing the Crushers in the process. He only killed his and Data's creater, Dr Soong, and stole the emotion chip meant for Data. He only used that chip to coerce Data to help him create an army of Borg with which to destroy the Federation. Any of this ring a bell, Picard? Evidently not, because it never occurs to them that this discovered android might be Lore. I found that a highly questionable plot line.
 
Star Wars....by a long shot....

...however, Captain Kirk did have sex with aliens. I think this falls under a category that gentlemen will discuss for generations to come. Here are some more examples:

Ginger or MaryAnne?

Whose the bigger stud....James Bond, Captain Kurk, or Clint Eastwood?

Boxers or Briefs?

Who would win in a lion vs. tiger fight?

....all of these legendary questions are what men tend to think about when there isn't anything to read while sitting on the toilet. Fascinating creatures we are! lol!
 
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