Stern Side Kick tried to kill himself...

[chicago]

Obviously, someone who stabs themselves 9 times is not stable mentally. Their idea of logic is not the same as you or I's so trying to apply your beliefs, logic, ideals etc to that situation is retarded.

If the guy's mom hadn't found him, he would have died so it obviously was an actual suicide attempt and not one of those 14 year old emo kid's attempt with a women's bic razor. Not to mention, he's been a heroin addict for probably longer than I've been alive. That's going to mess up someone's judgment a little.

It's easy to call someone a pussy because they try to commit suicide. It's obviously not so easy to use your brain and understand that you don't know the situation or mental state of said person.

I tried to kill myself once and believe me, it was not a proud moment. But I had an immense amount of stress at the time that had been building for a while. Stress that few people would have to deal with in a lifetime, let alone all at once and at the age of 19. There seemed to be no escape from it, no quiet place I could go to calm down. It was a constant thing. At the time of the incident, I was not the same person I am now. I was not myself. Call it a mental break, if you will. And clearly, someone on drugs and stabbing themselves in not in their right mind either.

 

[yaqisworld]

I found out about this the day it happened, but was reluctant to post anything about it due to the family's wishes to keep it private. I've had numerous dealings with Artie over the years and am personally upset with Stern for being such an enabler, for using Artie as a tool to achieve his "radio gold," which Artie has certainly provided.

A fan made this video of Artie and I think it nails things perfectly. BTW, the girl in the video is Dana, Arties one true love, who left him several years ago. It was only after that Artie began to excel in his course of self destruction.

Personally I think the whole situation is heartbreaking and I wish Artie nothing but love and hope that he pulls things together.

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[yaqisworld]

For the record, he was found bleeding out on the floor alone. He's only alive because his mother happened to come over to visit.

He was aware that his mother was coming over that day to bring him food.

 

[yaqisworld]

In any other work environment:

1. If you came to work loaded on heroin, you'd be fired.
2. If you went on the nod during a live show because you were on heroin, you'd be fired.
3. If you physically threatened to kill a coworker, you'd be fired.
4. If you pysically tried to kill a coworker, you'd be fired.

Artie Lange did all these things. Yet Howard thought it was compelling radio, which, pathetically and mordidly, was. We all sat glued to our radios listening.

The day Artie threatened to kill Sal the Stockbroker was gold.

The day Artie physically tried to kill his assistant Teddy and had to be stopped by every staff member was gold.

Artie sleeping on a futon and then falling off it was gold.

Howard allowed all of this to happen, live, on air. It made for great radio, but in light of what Artie has been reduced to, it seems to me to be ice cold.

Artie lied about seeing a psychiatrist for almost a year before he eventually went into therapy. Gary constantly called Artie out for being a liar. Artie is an addict, and if you've never been there then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I personally find several of the comments in this thread to be unintelligent and grotesquely insensitive.

Artie has his demons. We all have them. And I am angry at Howard for exploiting Arties. Just look at how things turned out. It is absolutely heartbreaking. Artie has a great heart. He is simply a man in trouble.

 

[Cy/MiG]

In any other work environment:

1. If you came to work loaded on heroin, you'd be fired.
2. If you went on the nod during a live show because you were on heroin, you'd be fired.
3. If you physically threatened to kill a coworker, you'd be fired.
4. If you pysically tried to kill a coworker, you'd be fired.

Artie Lange did all these things. Yet Howard thought it was compelling radio, which, pathetically and mordidly, was. We all sat glued to our radios listening.

The day Artie threatened to kill Sal the Stockbroker was gold.

The day Artie physically tried to kill his assistant Teddy and had to be stopped by every staff member was gold.

Artie sleeping on a futon and then falling off it was gold.

Howard allowed all of this to happen, live, on air. It made for great radio, but in light of what Artie has been reduced to, it seems to me to be ice cold.

Artie lied about seeing a psychiatrist for almost a year before he eventually went into therapy. Gary constantly called Artie out for being a liar. Artie is an addict, and if you've never been there then you have absolutely no idea what you are talking about. I personally find several of the comments in this thread to be unintelligent and grotesquely insensitive.

Artie has his demons. We all have them. And I am angry at Howard for exploiting Arties. Just look at how things turned out. It is absolutely heartbreaking. Artie has a great heart. He is simply a man in trouble.

As much as I enjoy Howard Stern and his radio show, this analysis is quite correct.

Very good point(s).

Wish Artie the best.

 

[SlaverTickler]

No dear, a failed suicide attempt means it didn't work. Not that someone is looking for attention. This is something I am all too familiar with.

It could be a bit of both. He knew his mother was coming over, because she comes over pretty regulerly. He may be trying to get help, but his ego won't let him ask for it. People have mentioned Artie's father dying, and Artie talked about his dad a few times of the show. Acording to Artie his father was a real "man's man" sort of guy, so asking for help may have been a show of weekness in his (Arties) eyes. However he might have seen killing himself as a way to stop being a burden on the people he cares about (be it his mother or Howard). Knowing that his mother was coming over could mean that he was hoping she would find him before he died and make him get treatment. After all Artie is Italian, and Italian boys always listen to momma.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I found out about this the day it happened, but was reluctant to post anything about it due to the family's wishes to keep it private. I've had numerous dealings with Artie over the years and am personally upset with Stern for being such an enabler, for using Artie as a tool to achieve his "radio gold," which Artie has certainly provided.

Now hold on there clip master. Howard can be accused of allot of things, including being one of the biggest ass holes in the history of radio, but I don't remember that stopping you from promoting yourself on his show. So if we can stop the hypocrisy right there I would be very happy. Stern might be a dick, but I remember him telling Artie many times to slow down his life. Everybody on the show was always worried about Artie, just because they goofed on him once and a while didn't mean they didn't care. Being on the Stern Show is like sitting front row at Yuck Yucks or some other comedy club, your going to get your balls busted. Howard never gave him drugs, he never forced him to take them, nor do I think he's wants him to take them. Artie was a mess long before he got on the Stern show, and he did it to himself. Artie would be the very last person on earth to blame anybody but himself for the state he has aloud his life to get into.

Howard's no saint, but he doesn't deserve to be blamed for what’s happened to Artie Lange, only Artie does.

 

[yaqisworld]

Now hold on there clip master. Howard can be accused of allot of things, including being one of the biggest ass holes in the history of radio, but I don't remember that stopping you from promoting yourself on his show. So if we can stop the hypocrisy right there I would be very happy. Stern might be a dick, but I remember him telling Artie many times to slow down his life. Everybody on the show was always worried about Artie, just because they goofed on him once and a while didn't mean they didn't care. Being on the Stern Show is like sitting front row at Yuck Yucks or some other comedy club, your going to get your balls busted. Howard never gave him drugs, he never forced him to take them, nor do I think he's wants him to take them. Artie was a mess long before he got on the Stern show, and he did it to himself. Artie would be the very last person on earth to blame anybody but himself for the state he has aloud his life to get into.

Howard's no saint, but he doesn't deserve to be blamed for what’s happened to Artie Lange, only Artie does.

I think that Howard Stern has created the most compelling radio in history. The majority of it involves drama between staff members and Howard is a master of fanning the flames. There is not a single member of his staff that hasn't had a meltdown on air, or had a violent physical screaming match, or threatened to quit, or stormed out of the studio. Gary, KC, Stuttering John, Ronnie, Benjy, Fred, Jackie and even Robbin have all had ugly meltdowns. Howard loves that. He sits back and gently pushes the buttons to escalate things. And it does make for extraordinary radio.

I think Artie Lange is brilliant but he has serious issues besides his addictions. He threatened to kill Sal. He wished that High Pitch Mike would die of Aids, he would have physically killed Teddie if the entire staff had not intervened. And provoking and encouraging that kind of behavior, live on air, is dangerous and irresponsible.

I am in no way saying that Howard is responsible for what Artie does, but Howard provides Artie with a fantastically rich growth medium in which his demons can and do mature. Howard allowed Artie to come to work on heroin. Howard allowed the fight between Teddie and Artie to escalate to what potentially could have been an on air homicide. An unstable element like Artie is great for the Stern show, but it has been devestating for Artie. Stern is an enabler. His show comes first. That's the way it has always been. I think the fact that he hasn't even called Artie yet speaks volumes. If he put his friendship with Artie ahead of his show he would have fired him years ago.

Artie might have ended up on the same path if he had never been hired by the Stern show. But I can tell you for a fact that I am not the only fan out there who is reassessing his opinion of Howard and his priorities.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some people to kill.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I think that Howard Stern has created the most compelling radio in history. The majority of it involves drama between staff members and Howard is a master of fanning the flames. There is not a single member of his staff that hasn't had a meltdown on air, or had a violent physical screaming match, or threatened to quit, or stormed out of the studio. Gary, KC, Stuttering John, Ronnie, Benjy, Fred, Jackie and even Robbin have all had ugly meltdowns. Howard loves that. He sits back and gently pushes the buttons to escalate things. And it does make for extraordinary radio.

The people who work for Howard are the best, and after the time they have spent with him they could probably go anywhere to and make good money doing what they do. In fact Artie and Gary were both offered jobs with K.Rock, but refused out of loyalty to Howard. Stern has had his share of Melt Downs especially during his last year before his move to Satellite.

I think Artie Lange is brilliant but he has serious issues besides his addictions. He threatened to kill Sal. He wished that High Pitch Mike would die of Aids, he would have physically killed Teddie if the entire staff had not intervened. And provoking and encouraging that kind of behavior, live on air, is dangerous and irresponsible.

The way Sal treats his wife alone is a good enough reason to see him take a beating, and HP Mike was taking some cheap shots as well. I can't speak about the situation with Ted because I wasn't listening to the show at the time. I don't remember anybody but Sal and Mike provoking it by shooting there mouths off at Artie, especial Mike who I think made a remark about either his sister or mother if I remember correctly. Mike and Sal are both ass holes and it would probably serve them well if Artie had laid a few shots on there faces. This doesn't say wishing somebody to get aids or cancer is right, none of that can really be justified.

I am in no way saying that Howard is responsible for what Artie does, but Howard provides Artie with a fantastically rich growth medium in which his demons can and do mature. Howard allowed Artie to come to work on heroin. Howard allowed the fight between Teddie and Artie to escalate to what potentially could have been an on air homicide. An unstable element like Artie is great for the Stern show, but it has been devestating for Artie. Stern is an enabler. His show comes first. That's the way it has always been. I think the fact that he hasn't even called Artie yet speaks volumes. If he put his friendship with Artie ahead of his show he would have fired him years ago.

Ok, lets say I cop to this concept that Howard is an enabler. I agree that it isn't like Howard couldn't have done more, but lets say he is an Enabler. You claim it has always been that way, so I will go along with you on that. Where was you high sense of principles when Howard invited you to come on his show and promote yourself? I guess it was in your other pair of pants, while the one you were wearing at the time had your cheque book in the back pocket.

Artie might have ended up on the same path if he had never been hired by the Stern show. But I can tell you for a fact that I am not the only fan out there who is reassessing his opinion of Howard and his priorities.

If the Stern show called you tomorrow and asked you to come on and promote your clips again, you'd be on the first flight to NY and you know it. I am not claiming Howard to be anything more then he is. A radio personality, who happened to blaze the trail for what we now called "Talk Radio". He has been the single most successful person in his industry and you wouldn't be the first person who commented on his principles off air, and then go back to the show to promote themselves.

Now if you'll excuse me, I have some people to kill.

Good luck with that.

 

[BrightEyes1082]

This might be the only time in history that this will ever happen,
but I agree with ST on this. All valid points.

 

[SlaverTickler]

This might be the only time in history that this will ever happen,
but I agree with ST on this. All valid points.

Duck for cover, it's the end of the world!!!

 

[yaqisworld]

The people who work for Howard are the best, and after the time they have spent with him they could probably go anywhere to and make good money doing what they do. In fact Artie and Gary were both offered jobs with K.Rock, but refused out of loyalty to Howard. Stern has had his share of Melt Downs especially during his last year before his move to Satellite.



The way Sal treats his wife alone is a good enough reason to see him take a beating, and HP Mike was taking some cheap shots as well. I can't speak about the situation with Ted because I wasn't listening to the show at the time. I don't remember anybody but Sal and Mike provoking it by shooting there mouths off at Artie, especial Mike who I think made a remark about either his sister or mother if I remember correctly. Mike and Sal are both ass holes and it would probably serve them well if Artie had laid a few shots on there faces. This doesn't say wishing somebody to get aids or cancer is right, none of that can really be justified.



Ok, lets say I cop to this concept that Howard is an enabler. I agree that it isn't like Howard couldn't have done more, but lets say he is an Enabler. You claim it has always been that way, so I will go along with you on that. Where was you high sense of principles when Howard invited you to come on his show and promote yourself? I guess it was in your other pair of pants, while the one you were wearing at the time had your cheque book in the back pocket.



If the Stern show called you tomorrow and asked you to come on and promote your clips again, you'd be on the first flight to NY and you know it. I am not claiming Howard to be anything more then he is. A radio personality, who happened to blaze the trail for what we now called "Talk Radio". He has been the single most successful person in his industry and you wouldn't be the first person who commented on his principles off air, and then go back to the show to promote themselves.



Good luck with that.

Dude, you are way out of line. And I guess not a Battlestar Galactica fan.

 

[SlaverTickler]

Dude, you are way out of line. And I guess not a Battlestar Galactica fan.

Nope, I am a Trekkie, and it's actually pretty simple. I'll even use William Shatner as an example. George, James, and Walter (aka Sulu, Scotty and Checkov) all claimed they hated Bill Shatner, they hated him so much they wrote books about why they hated him. Yet each and everyone of them made 6 moveis (7 for Scotty and Checkov) collected there pay, and then went right back to shitting on him after. Hell George did it on the Stern Show as a matter of fact. Lets just if you go back on Stern you will be contributing to the program of an Enabler for your own personal gain.

Now some... some may say that is out of line, while other would probably just say "Thats SlaverTickler being himself." and that would mean I am just stating the honest truth. Thats what I do, like a force of nature blowing through a trailer park. Then again there might be some people who think I shouldn't mess with you because after all you are THE YAQI, but to me your just another guy with a tickling fetish just like me. It's cool that you have your buisness going, and I admire what you've done in that respect, but you still shouldn't make that type of remark when you know Stern helped you make money. At least not if you plan on going back on his show ever again.

 

[Goodieluver]

Just a note, we are discussing a guy who snorted coke off his keys while wearing a pig suit, shit his bed in a hotel room cuz he was doing coke for over a week straight, took swings at cops and was notorious for his drinking benders

Regardless, I hope he turns out OK, he's funny as hell

 

[kis123]

Slaver, you brought up some interesting points and I was with you on most of them right up to here..........

It's cool that you have your buisness going, and I admire what you've done in that respect, but you still shouldn't make that type of remark when you know Stern helped you make money. At least not if you plan on going back on his show ever again.

We go to employers every day that have done some despicable acts in order to remain in business and it doesn't stop us from cashing our paychecks either. Some corporations knowingly use child labor, illegal immigrant labor, send entire operations overseas with people losing hundreds to thousands of jobs at a time. But those who remain cash their paychecks every week, so I can't completely buy into this particular line of thinking.

Yaqi is not the enabler, Stern is being accused of such and I for one agree to a certain extent. Artie is 100% responsible for his situation; he did the drugs and didn't get help for himself until it was nearly too late. I get that! But he shouldn't been made out as sideshow fodder from the very person he might have listened to if he reached out to help him either. Personally I think Stern is a pig; never liked him and never will. But in this case, this is a member of his team and (I guess) someone he considered a friend. If my friend has a drug problem, I do whatever I can to get him help not exploit him as "great television."

Most addicts have no idea how far they've fallen until something really bad happens. Those of us looking in from the outside should at least address the problem instead of letting it run wild in our faces. If this was a "regular" job, he would've either been fired or forced into treatment in order to keep his job.

Yaqi stated how close he was with Stern, yet still denounced his actions and called it out. I have no problem with that nor would I have a problem if he went on his show as a guest tomorrow. Actually that would make better radio to me than any of the other garbage that man spews.

I won't say Stern's responsible for Artie's problems; but he certainly profited from them.

 

[..Glamorous..]

It could be a bit of both. He knew his mother was coming over, because she comes over pretty regulerly. He may be trying to get help, but his ego won't let him ask for it. People have mentioned Artie's father dying, and Artie talked about his dad a few times of the show. Acording to Artie his father was a real "man's man" sort of guy, so asking for help may have been a show of weekness in his (Arties) eyes. However he might have seen killing himself as a way to stop being a burden on the people he cares about (be it his mother or Howard). Knowing that his mother was coming over could mean that he was hoping she would find him before he died and make him get treatment. After all Artie is Italian, and Italian boys always listen to momma.

I completely agree with this, and if his Italian family is anything like my Italian family, I for one understand why he didn't ask for help. Lords knows I didn't.

 

[SlaverTickler]

I won't say Stern's responsible for Artie's problems; but he certainly profited from them.

I'm not saying there arn't thing Stern could have done differently, but at the same time, Howard told Artie to get help on many occations. I have his last year on tape (almost from start to finnish) and Artie told Howard he was seeing somebody to get help (even Yaqi said he was lying, but how is Howard suposed to know that). It's like Shatner and the actors from Trek, if you don't like him, don't make 6 movies with him. If Yaqi has issues with the way Howard does his show, don't go on it to promote yourself.

If you really think about it, all of us who listened to the show were enablers because we gave the show raitings. Then again I have said this about the wrestling indastry as well. If, as a fan, you feel something is wrong with the way things are going, then you have an obligation to let the people know you feel that way. The best way to do this is to stop supporting the product as it is. The same is true for Howard Stern or anything else.

 

[Deleted member 66627]

The man was tripping on skag, of course he stabbed himself. He probably thought he was Jesus for the whole two minutes of the high.