The General Consensus. (Boring title, give it a chance and read my thread please!)

[JaneyD]

Hey Everyone Janey D again.

Yes Again. Less than 3 days in, another thread totaling to about 4 I believe. Got a problem with it? bite me.

So from all the data I've gathered on tickling, I have reached a generalization that tickling for most people in this community is ... What makes them happy? Hahaha! Kidding.

There's just too many types of tickling. Some enjoy being tickled with bondage for the feeling of helplessness, while the tickler enjoys being in control. Others would prefer a more playful unbound tickling with their partner. And I assume that all you "ticklees" are used to being tickled that the whole shock or the natural instinct of our body were to move away from that area being tickled is overridden by the pleasure of it, thus nullifying that feeling, is not compromised due to the many ways the tickler can give you satisfaction. Blindfolds and teasing to name a few, recreates the whole anticipation and "freshness"(so to say) when it comes to being tickled. Or whatever psychological kick we get out of it.

So on to my question! Which is more of a marketing point of view...

As a ticklephile, what do you want to see tickling overall? Be it in television, movies, or even the clips you purchase from the tickle clip site. In other words, if you could only tickle a person (or be tickled) one specific way what or how would you like it to be?

Bound or unbound? with the person knowing it or not? torture or playful? Ribs or underarms?

Describe your thoughts. And I know its a pretty long post, I am sorry but I couldn't really summarize my thoughts.

And hey! Since this whole thread is about knowing the biggest market for tickling, maybe these tickling-clip-store producers could benefit from this. 🙂

Just a curious cat,
-J

Oh and P.S.

To those clip-producers in this forum, currently how do you cater to the tickle-community? and no I am not going to be competing with you in the market haha.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

The answer is goth chicks.

Tickle torture lots of goth chicks.

 

[JaneyD]

The General Consensus is a boring title, and you asked us to give it a chance and read it. Then in the second sentence you tell us to bite you. Nice touch.
I see your new here, and don't know this kind of thread has been run to death. What is the biggest market? I dunno. Most producers seem to be doing okay, as they keep producing, and there are a handful of bellyachers who will come on here and complain because some clips aren't exactly how they would have produced it.
So yes, the boring title and the plea to give it a chance, I feel like I was tricked into viewing yet another rerun. It's not like you came here with a fresh idea. I buy clips based on the previews, and I like them. Biggest market for tickling, we are still in the minority. All fetish production accounts for about a tenth of all porn produced, and tickling is a fraction of that. (Source is a documentary on CBC.) Percentage wise, this is like less than the amount of people who voted for Ralph Nader in 2000. We're a small but dedicated circle. So bigest market potential in such a small area? Good question. Just tickle the daylights out of them.
For me, tickling is a pleasure. I come here for the like minded community.
I suggest tripping through the threads in this area and see all the other posts on this subject. It's a big world out there.

My apologies MrTicklefeet. I didn't mean for people to take my second sentence too seriously.

If there are any miscommunication brought about my thread to anyone else, let me know so I can edit this or take it down.

Admins or those in authority, please do take down my thread if it is considered a repost.

In my defense however, I posted this thread in order for me to find out what type of tickling everyone could relate to. One that could cater to everyone. Or at least the majority. Like how camera companies, such as Canon, releases these DSLRS with an "auto" knob so that anyone could purchase their camera.

And lastly, I know its a small community. I'm not looking to profit from this or anything. I just want to find out what the market is like or what would be the best way to satisfy the consumers. Why? I just want a better understanding. Curiosity sake that is all.

Thank you for your thoughts MrTicklefeet. I take it that you are into a mix of tickle & feet fetish, and I hope I didn't ruin your day with this thread.

Again, my apologies.

 

[MrTicklefeet]

JaneyD, no you didn't ruin my day, and I apologize for coming off a bit harsh. I should have that first cup of coffee before coming on line.
Anyway, it's not like a repost, but these generally will give you a lot of individual tastes, like Comfort Eagle asking for more goth chicks. The one guy who wants to see barefoot women in sheer nylons, the list will go on. You'll never really get a consensus here.
But if your enjoying yourself, go for it. See what results. Curiosity isn't a bad thing.

 

[JaneyD]

MrTicklefeet, I am aware that like the "goth chicks" response to this thread and inevitably the one liner comments are going to be posted here. If you read my posts however, this thread is more suitable from the perspective of the producers, or the media makers. Yes this is a small community, but someone still has to keep everyone here satisfied right?

I'm just trying to help out through my curiosity that is all.

 

[MrTicklefeet]

Go for it. I'll delete my first post here and let you go for it. And yes, I have both the tickling and the foot fetish bug.

 

[JaneyD]

Go for it. I'll delete my first post here and let you go for it. And yes, I have both the tickling and the foot fetish bug.

Don't delete it. You had some great insights MrTicklefeet. 🙂 And I can take some constructive criticism, being new and all.

 

[MrTicklefeet]

Too late, but it's embedded in your reply. Besides goth chicks, let's see what turns up. 🙂

 

[Freethought]

Hi Janey. I really enjoy your posts. They are thoughtful and genuine and you are really a breath of fresh our to this little "community".

When it comes to buying clips of any sort, guys are going to be dominating that market well over 90% of the time. When it comes to tickling, the majority of the guys seem to enjoy at least some "foot stuff" and bondage in the clips.

That being said, the clips I enjoy personally are going to have interesting interaction between Ler and lee...not goofy scenarios with terrible acting...just real and dynamic interaction. Tickle Abuse seems to get it right most of the time. They always make sure to throw in some good foot and bondage scenes, but they also do plenty rib, underarm, etc and they often do those segments with the two participants just sitting on the couch which I suppose would satisfy most lovers of "playful" tickling. So I think producers need to aim for the widest segment of the market...i.e. make sure the is some foot and bondage "stuff", but throw in plenty of other elements to catch some of the fringes of the marketplace.

So for me personally...I don't buy that many clips. I probably spend less than $50 a year. But yes...I do like feet and bondage, but I would never buy a crappy clip just because there's a barefoot, tied down girl in it. The interaction and overall quality of the clip are much more important to me. Producers that make those kinds of clips are going to need to pay a bit more for quality models, equipment, etc and there are probably less than a dozen content producers who have found that sweet spot where they are able to create great clips and still turn a profit. I also like to see models who are more normal...or what's the phrase in the business "girls next door". Tickle Abuse does sometimes get a few too many models that are obviously porn/adult performers.

 

[mabus]

It sounds like you want to start a clip store JaneyD! If you do, you'll probably sell a lot of clips, because you're hot. Yes, I'm blunt. A lifetime of not being blunt and being walked all over has done this to me.

But everything I say is usually tainted with a generous streak of humor, so don't worry - I speak and write to either make people laugh, make their day better, or to get them to improve their life.

Second, let me say, a new "Welcome to the Tickling Media Forum!"

Get ready for all the negative stuff that comes with it! (But focus on the positive. You stay with the negative you'll become bitter like me. Stay happy.)

I think, IF you are considering starting a clip store, since you're curious about what folks want, that you should just....do like Steve Jobs did - do whatever the hell you want, and if people like it, they'll buy it. ow, obviously he, and the producers at some point will ask for advice, things people want, try to comply.
As to the pantyhose comment above yes, many folks here, me included, love seeing girls in pantyhose tickled. Who wouldn't?!!!
But we merely ask and suggest that producers do a few - we don't demand every clip be pantyhose. Some barefooters DO angrily demand that every clip be barefoot.
I wish to one day start a clip store, but can't pay the models yet, because I'm poor. I'll probably do bare foot clips, because I know a lot of people like them. But I'll probably mainly do pantyhose tickling. When the bare footers who are assholes come out the woodworks and scream they only want to see bare foot clips, I'll just ignore them. It's my damn store.

I like plots, or funny/interesting scenarios. Some people don't. Tommy from Tickle Abuse has done a few which are pretty good. Most of his stuff isn't, and folks like Turtleboy never do, and Turtleboy does mostly pantyhose tickling, and they both are wildly successful - they've been around for years at this point.

I honestly think that's more from the guys themselves - they seem like cool guys. The models obviously are impressed with SOMETHING, because the same recurring models keep coming back again and again. They obviously must be great tickle video makers, and aren't driving the girls away.

Whatever you're planning, even if it is just research, good luck.

 

[trifalcon4]

The answer is goth chicks.

Tickle torture lots of goth chicks.

i canhaz agree absolutely.

 

[BellybTickler]

You're new, so welcome to the TMF.

Unfortunately, you're beating a dead horse. I think this whole thread is a ridiculous reiteration of a census that will never be able to be accurately accounted for. The TMF is a conglomerate of many different cultures, tastes, fetishes, desires, and people. I find it offensive that you're trying to group us all into cliques or groups or parties .. you've been here for one month .. I've been here for over 9 years.

If you desire is to start a production company then god bless you in your quest. The best piece of advice if you're looking for strong sales from HERE, is too appeal to every walk of life that inhabits this forum. Focus on feet, since that seems to be primarily the dominating fetish. If you are so in fact a female, then you shouldn't have any issues in that realm.

Next time though, be a tad more tactful or you'll make far more enemies than you will friends.

 

[Myriads]

There is no simple answer to this question.

Fetishes, partialisms, etc are pan-sexual behaviors that are formed under specific circumstances that are fairly unique to each individual. The more general the behavior that is fixated upon, the more expressions one will see across a population.

One of the ways that I find always puts things in perspective is to switch the action word in a question from 'Tickling' to 'Fucking'

This makes your question, "What sort of fucking do you want to see overall?"

Well now, every person has specific positions they prefer, each has certain things they want to see, hear a partner say. Every person comes to basic plug-and-socket sex with a set of likes. Unique to them, and very different from the next person and so on.

You can create groups and find that a lot of people want to see fucking with the woman on top. And other big groups want to see it from behind, and some want it standing, infinite variety.

So it goes with tickling. You'll find big clumps around some likes. But there will be massive variety.

Producers tend to pick a market segment they feel they can serve, and try to make the best vids they can for it.

But what a Tickle Abuse makes, compared to what a Tickle Chicks makes, compared to a Stryker Production will all be about tickling, but each will press different specific buttons.

No one can tell you what would be best to make. Only what is best for them

Myriads

 

[JaneyD]

Hi Janey. I really enjoy your posts. They are thoughtful and genuine and you are really a breath of fresh our to this little "community".

When it comes to buying clips of any sort, guys are going to be dominating that market well over 90% of the time. When it comes to tickling, the majority of the guys seem to enjoy at least some "foot stuff" and bondage in the clips.

I think producers need to aim for the widest segment of the market...i.e. make sure the is some foot and bondage "stuff", but throw in plenty of other elements to catch some of the fringes of the marketplace.

Thank you freethought for sharing your opinion. I see your point with the foot-people, I mean the tickling forum's logo,and most of the ads here have feet being tickled.

It sounds like you want to start a clip store JaneyD!

Get ready for all the negative stuff that comes with it! (But focus on the positive. You stay with the negative you'll become bitter like me. Stay happy.)

I think, IF you are considering starting a clip store, since you're curious about what folks want, that you should just....do like Steve Jobs did - do whatever the hell you want, and if people like it, they'll buy it..

Haha I am not looking to start a clip store, and even if I did I don't have the resources to do so. I'm just really curious, no harm in that right?

Steve had a wonderful vision. I have no words to describe what he has done. Although he was known as a tyrant when it comes to being a boss, his work really revolutionized the way we use computers and gadgets. But again, his vision is what made it all happen - I think it's the user-friendliness of the apple products.

So relating this to my thread question - What would be the best way to revolutionize tickling? I guess haha

You're new, so welcome to the TMF.

Unfortunately, you're beating a dead horse. I think this whole thread is a ridiculous reiteration of a census that will never be able to be accurately accounted for. The TMF is a conglomerate of many different cultures, tastes, fetishes, desires, and people. I find it offensive that you're trying to group us all into cliques or groups or parties .. you've been here for one month .. I've been here for over 9 years.

If you desire is to start a production company then god bless you in your quest. The best piece of advice if you're looking for strong sales from HERE, is too appeal to every walk of life that inhabits this forum. Focus on feet, since that seems to be primarily the dominating fetish. If you are so in fact a female, then you shouldn't have any issues in that realm.

Next time though, be a tad more tactful or you'll make far more enemies than you will friends.

Ok I am sorry if the way I wrote my thread was offensive. I surely didn't mean for it to come out that way.

My new kid on the block surely shows eh? Sorry. I knew that this thread was done to death already, but I thought I added a new life to it by asking or trying to generalize tickling, so to say.

I'm just trying to find out what type of tickling is acceptable or satisfies everyone.

...Lastly, if so in fact I am a female? Why no, I am an asexual extraterrestrial who was sent here to gather information on tickling.

Well now, every person has specific positions they prefer, each has certain things they want to see, hear a partner say. Every person comes to basic plug-and-socket sex with a set of likes. Unique to them, and very different from the next person and so on.

I get the analogy on plug-to-socket sex, that there are different ways to do it and that each person has their own unique preference compared to another. But what could be an "adapter" so to say, to this plug-socket sex? There's only one way of "doing it" right? So in tickling what could be pleasing to the eyes of every ticklephile? If that even is possible.

If not every, majority. Who makes up the majority of the tickling community? I'd assume that the feet-people are. Not just basing from the ads and logos, but also in mainstream media. Most of the tickling scenes I've seen in the movies or tv, especially those directed by Mr. Tarantino, would have feet tickling... aside from the typical rib type tickling.


It would seem that this thread is getting more heat than expected. I am sorry if this topic has already been done to death. Lastly I apologize for my lack of knowledge once again. I thought I was adding a new factor. oh well..

Your curious neighborhood idiot,
-J

 

[rhiannon]

And I assume that all you "ticklees" are used to being tickled that the whole shock or the natural instinct of our body were to move away from that area being tickled is overridden by the pleasure of it, thus nullifying that feeling

This is a wrong assumption. The body still wants to move away from the tickling. This is where bondage comes in! 😉

Okay, about wehre to see tickling: I'm not into the mainstream stuff. I don't need to see tickling in TV. I'm totally content with hardcore tickling clips which give me exactly what I want.

When it comes to the tickling itself, I want it to be tied, full body, and torture.

 

[3xPIN]

Bite you? Enticing; sounds delicious. But I will refrain for the sake of posturing.

Variety is the spice of life. The fact that tickling is so broad is what makes it fascinating. As for which is more marketable. That is also what makes tickling so great: It is a gamble! There is no telling from one moment to the next what kind of clip will do better than the next. You just have to try and find out. But F/F is pretty popular.

 

[kristof]

Well, maybe it's only me but I would love to see some f/m, lee bound and tickling used as a part of post orgasm torture. Would love the Ler that's laughing from her victims suffering. A BBW would be nice 🙂

 

[milagros317]

Oddly enough, what I like to experience in real life is quite different than what I like to see in a clip or in a still photo.

What I like to experience in real life is extreme F/m tickle torture with strict bondage. (See photo below for the bondage.) I want my tickler to dig her fingers into my rib cage and under my arms. I want her to verbally taunt me as she tickles without mercy.

What I like to see in a clip or still photo is F/f tickling on the bare soles of the ticklee, with close-ups of her soles and of her laughing face.

 

[TickleMyFancy]

Mainstream clips don't do anything for me. I guess because they're too "tame" for me.

I like bondage. The tighter the bondage so the lee can't move, the absolute better 🙂 And I hate clips with "scenario" situations.
Aka- "The Bad Babysitter Needs To Be Punished!"
No.
Just show the tickling.

 

[rhiannon]

Mainstream clips don't do anything for me. I guess because they're too "tame" for me.

I like bondage. The tighter the bondage so the lee can't move, the absolute better And I hate clips with "scenario" situations.
Aka- "The Bad Babysitter Needs To Be Punished!"
No.
Just show the tickling.

Amen, sister! 😀

 

[Myriads]

I get the analogy on plug-to-socket sex, that there are different ways to do it and that each person has their own unique preference compared to another. But what could be an "adapter" so to say, to this plug-socket sex? There's only one way of "doing it" right? So in tickling what could be pleasing to the eyes of every ticklephile? If that even is possible.

If not every, majority. Who makes up the majority of the tickling community? I'd assume that the feet-people are. Not just basing from the ads and logos, but also in mainstream media. Most of the tickling scenes I've seen in the movies or tv, especially those directed by Mr. Tarantino, would have feet tickling... aside from the typical rib type tickling.

There is no 'adaptor' for plug in socket plain old regular sex, other then the basic aspect that at some point a hard male part enters an opening on the other partner.

Beyond that the details will vary wildly from person to person. Some guys love oral, others want handjobs. For others nothing but the real deal does it for them. Some ladies want it from behind, no other position works. Some like to be on the bottom even though it's not the best position for orgasm. And so forth and so on.

One can do poles and find that X% of guys want Position Y. And that is the 'majority' taste. But that is simply a snapshot of what the current population likes. Give it a decade and it might shift. Positions come and go out of favor like fashions, though a bit more slowly.

So you can find a current idea of what is liked.

With tickling you can see the trends through which videos are being made and bought.

What are they? Mostly F/F, with the lee nude or near nude. Tight bondage preferred. Attention spent on Feet and the rest of body about equally.

But there are a wealth of other gender mixes */M was virtually invisible 10 years ago, now there is a regular presence every week in the clip forum of new material. This is the result of a sociological change in the community, which has been slowly moving to accepting that males can enjoy being lees, with no stigma. As this new perspective has rooted, the video output of */M stuff has increased.

There is a growing mixing of forced orgasms into tickling videos. This is a co-fetish that often rides along with tickling, as both are linked by the common element of causing an involuntary response in the subject. As more folks have voiced this it's become more done.

Feet ride as a co-fetish. So there is a lot of cross over there. It's a big subgroup.

And one can keep splintering the groups, pulling out threads. A fair sized group likes stockings on when tickling is done. Another likes specific bondage positions. Others want M/F others want F/M, some want M/M.

If you can imagine it, there is someone out there that wants to see it.

Your curiosity is a good thing, and I enjoy seeing it. The biggest question I'll ask back is to what end? What are you fishing in this pond for specifically? Is it satisfying an intellectual curiosity about a population you never thought existed? Is it to answer some thread of self you've become aware of? Are we a research project (we have been several times before)?

I, at least, look out at those who look in and am curious also.

Myriads

 

[JaneyD]

Your curiosity is a good thing, and I enjoy seeing it. The biggest question I'll ask back is to what end? What are you fishing in this pond for specifically? Is it satisfying an intellectual curiosity about a population you never thought existed? Is it to answer some thread of self you've become aware of? Are we a research project (we have been several times before)?

I, at least, look out at those who look in and am curious also.

Myriads

I'll just answer this question before I sleep. It's 4am here in my place already. I'll comment on the rest when I wake up. 🙂

Myriads, I am just a curious cat that is all.

I haven't had the experience like most of the people here in the community when it comes to tickling, or at least those who replies on my thread. I'm just trying to get a better understanding on this, and in the process I hope to meet people I share the same thoughts with. I just want to know everyone's perspective.

I am still unsure what tickling is for me. I haven't found it as sexual as others do, I mean I don't get excited when all of a sudden I see someone get tickled in public or in tv. On the other hand, I do find it some what pleasing or satisfying when I get tickled or when I tickle someone. So with that I guess I fit the criteria for being here...?

I have a few blog posts and a thread here in the Tickling Discussion section entitled Confused, if you have the time, check them out to see where I am coming from.

Just a curious cat,
-J

 

[JaneyD]

This is a wrong assumption. The body still wants to move away from the tickling. This is where bondage comes in! 😉

Okay, about wehre to see tickling: I'm not into the mainstream stuff. I don't need to see tickling in TV. I'm totally content with hardcore tickling clips which give me exactly what I want.

When it comes to the tickling itself, I want it to be tied, full body, and torture.

Ok so bondage really does play a huge factor in tickling, not just a added kink to it.

Bite you? Enticing; sounds delicious. But I will refrain for the sake of posturing.

Variety is the spice of life. The fact that tickling is so broad is what makes it fascinating. As for which is more marketable. That is also what makes tickling so great: It is a gamble! There is no telling from one moment to the next what kind of clip will do better than the next. You just have to try and find out. But F/F is pretty popular.

So if you could buy just 1 clip, what criteria /s would you be using when looking for a clip before buying it?

Oddly enough, what I like to experience in real life is quite different than what I like to see in a clip or in a still photo.

What I like to experience in real life is extreme F/m tickle torture with strict bondage. (See photo below for the bondage.) I want my tickler to dig her fingers into my rib cage and under my arms. I want her to verbally taunt me as she tickles without mercy.

What I like to see in a clip or still photo is F/f tickling on the bare soles of the ticklee, with close-ups of her soles and of her laughing face.

Wow totally different ends of the spectrum here. Media : Reality ; Upper body : Lower body. Seems the only thing common is the reaction.

Mainstream clips don't do anything for me. I guess because they're too "tame" for me.

I like bondage. The tighter the bondage so the lee can't move, the absolute better 🙂 And I hate clips with "scenario" situations.
Aka- "The Bad Babysitter Needs To Be Punished!"
No.
Just show the tickling.

Scenarios give sort of a reason as to why the tickling is being done right? or how they both ended in that situation. In media this gives a bit of realism for the film, or clip in this case. So just tickling eh? JUST MAKE EM LAUGH!


Sounds like most of you just have one goal when it comes to tickling, and that is to make 'em laugh! And you guys are quite efficient at it as well.

I thought bondage was just sort of a gimmick like the scenarios or story-lines when it comes to clips, but it is needed as switching to different spots to make tickling more ruthless or optimized haha. I see why "ticklees" don't have to be scared as to losing/numbing those sensitive tickle areas. You ticklers are pretty innovative!

Thank you for sharing your thoughts everyone. 🙂 Hopefully one day I get to experience these things as well hahaha!

BTW intense bondage picture @milagros317

-J

 

[rhiannon]

Ok so bondage really does play a huge factor in tickling, not just a added kink to it.

Definitely. Without bondage, the ler is in danger to get hurt.

 

[JaneyD]

Definitely. Without bondage, the ler is in danger to get hurt.

What about the risk of the "lee" getting cramps?