The best type of pantyhose, I find, are very thin, sheer, no reinforced heel and toe nude, flesh colored, or suntan pantyhose. The thinner the hose, the more it looks like bare feet, and yet you can kind of tell she's wearing hose.
I put some examples at the bottom.
And it's obviously more ticklish....
Oh, I guess I was thinking of another pantyhose tickling fan's preferences, then. My mistake. Thanks for the examples, by the way. But what do I do if the models don't own pantyhose like that? What you're describing is pretty specific.
As a barefoot tickling person, I can't help but wonder what's the point of having a model wear nylons if the idea is to make it almost look like she's not wearing any. But I guess it's the same thing as non-fetishists wondering what's the point of feet and tickling because they're just not into those things. I'm sure you have good reason to like it that that.
As for feet being more ticklish in nylons, I guess it is true sometimes, but not always. For example, I tried doing a nylons scene with Roxanne from Last Laugh Pi an Rho, but she turned out to be more ticklish in bare feet, and the nylons footage was so disappointing that I ended up no using it. And no, I don't have that footage anymore.
I know shooting a video must be stressful, but how stressful is it?
Give it a try and tell me about your experience. It's not shooting a video per se that's the problem, but rather the very special context of my project.
I guess I'm trying to say, I think most tickling producers get too stressed out, and the reason many people criticize videos (ignoring the flamers who criticize no matter what) is that they see, subconsciencely, that stress and timidness comes out in the final product.
I'm not sure I agree with that. Most producers don't seem to show any timidness in their clips, as far as I can tell. In fact, to me there are some who look downright agressive.
I wish you'd consider the FM Concepts model of video production
Yikes! With all due respect to FMC, I don't especially like the thought of using them as a model for my work, as the differences in approach and philosophy are huge. But I'm listening.
which is basically, shoot the video first with pantyhose, have them take off the pantyhose and put socks on, then shoot a sock and bare foot video. That pleases the three biggest classes of ticklers, the pantyhose fans, sock fans and bare foot fans. If you can shoot quickly enough, and have a lot of stuff ready early, it won't really take that much time.
If the material is to be of interest to all three classes of customers, I'd have to spend way too much time of non-barefoot stuff. Either I do nylons and have the models get rid of the socks quickly when it's time to do barefoot stuff, or I don't do nylons at all. I can't justify spending several minutes of nylons, then on socks, and then of bare feet. And what about those who like tickling with the open shoes still on? Should I also do such a scene with all the models? I simply can't do everything and please all potential customers.
It's easy for FMC because they have immensely more resources than I do, and aim for an much more varied clientele. After all, they're far from being just about tickling, or even feet. I can't afford to work on specialized material like they can.
On the timidness part, which I find many video producers seem to have...relax.
And more importantly...just ASK. Don't be afraid to ask your models for a little effort, especially since you're paying them!
I don't mean to be rude, but that's very easy for you to say. Most of my models don't have any experience at all. Most have never heard of such thing as a tickling fetish before, and some don't even know what a fetish is before I explain it. We're not talking professional models with adult/fetish experience, here, at least not in most cases. So even though they agree to do a shoot, I can't help but wonder what they're thinking during the shoot, if they think I'm asking too much, if they're getting impatient, if they think what I'm asking is too kinky, etc. Sure, they do get paid, but it's not a fortune, and it doesn't give me the right to ask them to do things they don't like. I also don't want them to get to tired or bored, especially with all the setting up and preparation work that actually takes significantly longer than the actual shooting action. Paid or not, a shoot can get pretty long for the models, and the fact that I personally could work for many hours doesn't affect the models' tolerance for a long shoot. So I feel pressure due to the fact that I feel I don't have all the time I need to do a good job without the models losing steam and giving me poor performances.
I guess some producers are really comfortable with the whole adult thing, and some might not give a damn how their models feel, as long as they get the footage. Me, I'm not into adult stuff. It's just not my world. I don't even have a tickling/foot life outside of my project. The Last Laugh is the closest thing to adult stuff that I do. I also respect and care about the models. They're not just video-making tools to me. I want them to be comfortable with the fact that they're posing for what's basically a fetish video, and I want them to leave the shoot happy, on friendly terms with me. That's part of what's stressful about shoots.
Another factor is that some models are either just borderline ticklish enough, or are tricky to tickle and require special techniques that may not work all the time. Or they're poor ticklers. It can be very stressful to worry about a shoot that's not giving results that are as good as I need them to be, considering the time and money involved, as well as the thought of potential customers being disappointed in the final prodcut. It's hard to tell a model that I can't work with her when she's not absolutely clearly not ticklish. Some of the models just don't realize just how ticklish they need to be for a video to be good. Some describe themselves as being very ticklish, when in fact they're only moderately so by tickling video standards. So how easy is it supposed to be to tell them that no, they don't have what it takes and I can't pay them, especially when they went to the trouble of coming over, expecting to do a shoot? I'd hate to have to interrupt a shoot and tell them I've changed my mind because I think they're somewhat ticklish but not quite enough. That's stressful. Add that the fact that I am in no way a professional videographer, the relative clumsiness of some models (with the frustration of seeing them waste good potential), and what I said about worrying about what the models are thinking and how they're feeling, and I think I have damn good reason to be stressed sometimes. But I don't think it actually affects my work in the end.
So, don't be afraid to ask, again, since you're PAYING them. I wouldn't be mean to any girls who helped me, but I would just tell them "The first part of the shoot we'll do this, the next part we'll do this, etc. etc." Tell them before hand so they're ready.
I appreciate your example from your own life, which is pretty cool, but it's not quite the same thing. Your project is horror-fantasy. In my case, I'm asking the models to do an adult movie. And they're not B-class actresses. They're just ordinary people. I can't ask too much of them. Even if I explain the whole thing in detail, it's something that's so new and unfamiliar to them that they don't always fully know what to expect and what's required of them. It makes for a delicate situation, believe me. Paying them doesn't give me total control over them, you know.
How are your shoots behind the scenes? I know many people are curious about that, I mean, are the models really bitchy and difficult to work with, are they easy going?
To tell the truth, most are quite nice and relatively easy to work with, which I really appreciate. But it doesn't change the fact that they're amateurs. Even those who have some experience, like a few that had some erotic photography and videography experience before working for me, aren't necessarily used to the tickling thing. Its still a new experience for them. But at least I know they're probably comfortable with the adult aspect of the project. Then again, there's a big difference between artistic nudity for a photographer's private portfolio artistic photo project and appearing in a video that's sold to a fetishist clientele.
