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Thread for discussion on The World Trade attacks -post here

I am so glad we can take a little time out of tickling discussion to talk about this trajedy. This has been a nutty day. My friends dad is a pilot and he is now stuck in canada for the night. My uncle works at WTC and just a few minutes ago, I found out he escaped in time and is just fine. My neighbor was one of the last people to Leave from lambert in ST louis this morning. SO yeah, its been hectic,but they are all lucky to be ok. My heart goes out to the others who werent so lucky.
 
My thoughts and prayers are with all those affected by this vile act of terrorism. I can't beleive this has happened, I'm almost numb from the shock of it all. We are the United States and we will overcome and those responsible will pay.
 
Really, really sorry to hear about the loss of your buddy, Sandman. I'm sure he will be very missed and my sincere condolences go out to you, his friends and his family.
 
this is a dark day in history.it doesn`t seem like it`s real.all i can say is that our thoughts and prayers are with those who have lost family and friends,and to all the people who have helped out on this tragic day
 
This was, without a doubt, the single biggest act of cowardice I have ever seen, and hopefully, ever will see. It's cases like this when I find myself deeply rooted in the belief that those responsible must be mass-executed, where normally, I'm more of a pacifist. I cannot wait. I cannot wait until those responsible are brought to justice and sent to Hell for what they've done. My prayers are with everyone on this, the saddest night in our Nation's history.
 
This is such a terrible tradgedy. For those of you previously debating it ..

THIS is evil. Killing innocent people is evil. I sure hope the perpatrators are found and killed..

I also hope no children are killed in our retaliation.

All my troubles are by comparison are nothing.

We should all live the rest of our lives trying to be better peolpe. Life is so short and unpredictable.

I am deeply sorry for those that lost their lives or their families.
 
condolences

I don't have much to add, just want to pass my condolences. Does anyone else from NY think that the best thing for the city would be to keep Guliani for 4 more years?
 
I just finished reading this thread. I have been sick all day about this situation and am hoping that those friends that have not yet been heard from are ok. I am truly sorry to hear about those that did not make it. Sandman, my thoughts are with you.
I have not heard from WallStreet since he e-mailed me last night(Sunday) and I sincerely hope that it is just a matter of inability to connect to the internet.
I am gratful to hear that other New Yorkers in our community are home and safe.
Despite recent conflicts, I do feel like TMF is a family and am honored to be a part of it.

Be Well All,
Jen
 
Terrible Resolve

Not much I can add to the above. Bin Laden seems to be the prime suspect, and his camp should be turned unto a smoking, glass-lined crater that glows in the dark. He's had help from the Taliban government, so Kabul deserves the same treatment. Enemy civilian casualties? God will know His own.

But why stop there? This should be a wake-up (or maybe shut-up) for those fuzzy thinkers who ever-so-faintly condoned terrorism because of real or imagined grievances. The usual suspects in the Middle East fell all over themselves denying responsibility. Let's exterminate them anyway. (I wouldn't object if the Israelis used automatic weapons for crowd control either.) We should say, "You've said that you're at war with the USA. It's time you found out what that really means. You're dead men walking, all of you, if it takes a year or 50 years."

After Pearl Harbor, Admiral Yamamoto said, "I fear that we have awakened a sleeping giant, and filled him with a terrible resolve."

DEATH AND DESTRUCTION!

Strelnikov
 
From an Israeli Newspaper

Subj: From an Israeli Newspaper
> Date Tue, 11 Sep 2001 7:44:50 PM Eastern Daylight Time
> Palestinians celebrate attacks; Arafat issues condemnation
>
> By Amos Harel, Ha'aretz Correspondent and Agencies
>
Palestinians celebrating the aircraft attacks on New York and Washington.
> There were scenes of celebration in the West Bank refugee camp of Balata,
and in the cities of Tul Karm and Bethlehem, also located in the West Bank.
>
> In the West Bank city of Nablus, Palestinians distributed sweets, motorists
honked their horns and gunmen fired into the air from assault rifles to cheer
on the attacks which unfolded in the space of a few hours.
>
> "I feel I am in a dream. I never believed that one day the United States
would come to pay a price for its support to Israel," said Mustafa, a
24-year-old Palestinian gunman.
>
> Several dozen Palestinian youths gathered in East Jerusalem to celebrate as
well, honking out wedding tunes on their car horns. "We are so happy that
America was hit. America is against us in supporting Israel," Suleiman, one
of the demonstrators, said.
>
> Arafat condemned the attacks which levelled the twin towers of the World
Trade Center in New York City and struck the Pentagon in Washington. He
expressed shock at the attacks, and offered the United States condolences and
help in hunting the attackers if it was requested. Several Palestinian
militant groups denied involvement.
>
 
today's date, 911, will always be remembered. this is such a horrible tradegy! i cant explain how i felt when i saw that plane hit the building. it was just unbelievable! and all of those citizens running in horror, this is no doubt the worst thing that has happen in the u.s. durin my lifetime. my thoughts and prayers go out to those who have lost loved ones from this tradegic event.
 
I cannot say how sorry I am.

The news hit me at 4 p.m local time, just as I returned home. I came in siad hello and saw my dad watching TV with a sorry face. He said "Hush! There were some terrible things in NY!" I looked on TV and saw one WTC tower down and in a few minutes the other collapsing. Next 6 hours I spent in front of TV set, translating CNN and NBC for my parents, or watching our local channels. For long, long hours I couldn't believe it, simply refused to acknowledge the facts. Then I started to think about my family in NY. They live in suburbs, but they run family business and God knows where they were at the time. Then I thought about their mother, who still lives here in Poland and surely was living through hell that hours. Then I thought about people from this group who live in NY or have families there. I am happy of anyone who survived and I send my condolencies for anyone who lost a friend of a relative. I am sure you, as a nation, overcame this terrible threat and respond in force, striking people guilty of this. Poland isn't a big country, but as our President said, we offer every possible support. My thoughts are with you.
 
Hello everyone, I just wanted to say that I, and everyone I know in Britain, is completely shocked at this horrible event. It was about 2:00 pm in England when it happened. There's still coverage on Sky News now. Just wanted you to know we're thinking of you.

Boba.
 
my two cents...

The front of my home in Hasbrouck Heights, NJ looks out over the NYC skyline....Yesterday morning I left for work on an absolutely gorgeous day, and seeing that skyline in its majesty.....two hours later I am hurrying home on the NJ Turnpike with Tower 2 in smoke on my right side in clear view...I pass under a bridge, and when I come out, its gone....GONE! I had a clear view of the smoking area yesterday from home, and still can see the smoldering this morning....My wife actually saw the second plane hit the tower from Lyndhurst. My brother-in-law doesn't work in the tower, but was scheduled to go there yesterday...luckily he made it as far as Hoboken when all Hell broke loose...
We must let cooler heads prevail....Can't be a situation of "Ready, Fire, Aim"...We will find those responsible and they will die...In the meantime, the best way to beat those bastards is to go to work as normal, be as normal as possible...We get scared, they win...that was the objective overall. MY prayers to the families who must now deal with this tradgety..

KingP
 
Being kind of a paranoid conspiracy minded person, I've been fearing this for years. I still just can't get over the shock of seeing those towers crumble. All I have to say is that all those who continue to beat the "death to America" drum need to be dealt with swiftly and with immense force. The chips are down folks, it's time for us to show what we've got. There WILL be hell to pay. I have friends & family in Manhatten and fortunatley they are all accounted for. My heart & prayers go out to those who weren't so lucky. Take care everyone and hug someone you love today...really tight.


Peace
😎
Ed
 
Now 24 hours on from the atrocities of yesterday- my thoughts now of the incredible heroism shown by the police and firemen in trying to help people and then meeting their deaths when the towers collapsed- the anguish and terror of the passengers on the airliners who knew their fate and could do nothing about it- and the people who leaped to their deaths from the towers knowing if they stayed where they were they would lose their life anyway. The only other words I can find appropriate for now are found in a line from Ecclesiastes 3:
"A time to weep; and a time to laugh" At this moment we are doing the former; there will come a time when we shall be doing the latter.

To all the members from the United States of America my thoughts are with you
 
This is a bloody outrage!

First off I'd let to give my condolences to all who have lost loved ones in this tragedy. I honestly can't believe this, at first I thought it was just a freak accident, but now that it's confirmed as being a terrorist attack I'm outraged.

Probably the most shocking part of this is how it's already affected me personally. My mother who is currently on vacation in the States (FYI: I live in Winnipeg Manitoba Canada) is now stranded there because of the airplane lockdown. She was supposed to come home this afternoon but now I have no idea when she'll be back. She's in Duluth Minnesota should anyone wanna know. I also work at the Winnipeg Goldeyes baseball stadium. They play in the northern league and should have started the second round of the playoffs in Lincon Nebraska yesterday but that game was cancelled so I don't know when they'll return to play here again. Meaning I don't know when I'll be working next. This just really stunned me as to how something in another country miles away can effect me as a person way up here in Winnipeg. In fact it has me kinda worried. 🙁

On the other hand I demand vengence and retribution for these hanus crimes that have been done. None of those people on the planes or in the WTC or the Pentagon deserved what happened to them. This is truly a sad time. But I belive in the justice system, and being a pretty religious man I believe God will also do his part in punishing the wicked. I also believe in Karma, and Karma's a b!tch and what goes around comes around muther F*ckas! So you terrorist bastards party it up while you can. Your days are numbered. The people of North America and for that matter the World won't tollerate this crap. Somebody's gonna pay for this, I just hope it's the guilty who do get what they deserve. 😡

On the other hand that is also the part that disturbes me the most. The fact that the World will see more bloodshed and death before this whole ordeal is over. When we will ever learn to live in peace?

As for the rest of us who have to sit by and watch this horror unfold, I can only give you some comforting words. Life will go on. We have to stick together as a functioning society. Otherwise if we just sit here and worry ourselves to death it'll be the terrorists who will have won. To quote one of my favorite movies: (Braveheart) "They can take our lives, but they can never take our freedom!!!"

Tickle_Torturer

P.S. I'd like to apologize to administration for cursing so much. Sorry guys, like most people seem to be I angry and felt it necessary to let out a little steam.
 
I hope everyone puts tickling secondary for the next week or so (if you havent already, shame on you)
 
I am desperately sick over the thousands of lives wasted yesterday, at the thousands of husbands and fathers, wives and mothers, who will never again see or hear their loved ones, who will never see children grow up, all because of the dreams of glory of sick fanatics.

Worrying about starting WWIII is needless. It isn't going to happen. No one, Russia and China included, will condone this kind of barbarism, since that would be giving it tacit approval (if you can bomb the USA, in other words, why not Russia)? What's going to happen instead is this: the tiny handful of animals who perform acts of this nature, and the miserable handful of countries that support them, will find themselves isolated and alone. They will find themselves armed with rusted 20-year-old weapons and standing against the greatest military machine in human history. Already, after yesterday's hideous celebrations of "heroism" triggered by the actions of people who skulk around airports like dogs and preying on the innocent, Afghanistan -- now confronted with the possibility that they might have to actually stand and fight for REAL -- is sniveling to the United States, "please don't bomb us."

The mercy shown to the people who carried out this act, and the nations supporting them, should be directly proportional to the amount of mercy THEY displayed yesterday in causing the deaths of thousands of people who never did a single thing to harm any of them.

God bless the souls of the departed and bring comfort to those grieving for lost family and friends.

God bless all of you reading this too.

Righteousness will prevail.
 
my heart goes out to all the suffer

1st of all I want to say Shem I am so glad nightfall is ok! My prayers, my thoughts and my heart go out to all the victims all the families and the wonderful people who unselfeshly rise to the occasion to aid in the rescue.

I grew up and spent most of my life in NYC, always considering myself a NY gal and proud of it. I relished walking along the street and taking in all the wonderful sites and feel that can be found there. 2 year ago I brought my adopted son home through JFK and as we flew past the World Trade Center I wispered to him that he was home and he was American. These cowards destoyed lives, they destroyed our sense of security but they will NOT destroy this country. Americans are too strong! I live in the suburbs about an hour to the north in CT, my neighbor who works for a large company in the Trade Center just happened to be taking a vacation day now awaits any word for most of his coworkers, we pray with him. My sister, military for many years has many friends who work at the Pentagon and the company that she works for now lost 3 employees there. This has touched each and every one of us! We must all remain united and proud!

Tomorrow my company and many others that I know are having an American Day and we are all wearing red, white and blue, we are hanging flags. We are standing as one!

JPie
 
I Can't Place The Right Words For The Grief I Feel, So How About Something Beautiful

O beautiful for spacious skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the fruited plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for pilgrim feet
Whose stem impassioned - stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America! America!
God mend thine every flaw,
Confirm thy soul in self-control,
Thy liberty in law!
O beautiful for heroes proved In liberating strife.
Who more than self the country loved
And mercy more than life!
America! America!
May God thy gold refine
Till all success be nobleness
And every gain divine!
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
And crown thy good with brotherhood
From sea to shining sea!
O beautiful for halcyon skies,
For amber waves of grain,
For purple mountain majesties
Above the enameled plain!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till souls wax fair as earth and air
And music-hearted sea!
O beautiful for pilgrims feet,
Whose stem impassioned stress
A thoroughfare for freedom beat
Across the wilderness!
America ! America !
God shed his grace on thee
Till paths be wrought through
wilds of thought
By pilgrim foot and knee!
O beautiful for glory-tale
Of liberating strife
When once and twice,
for man's avail
Men lavished precious life !
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till selfish gain no longer stain
The banner of the free!
O beautiful for patriot dream
That sees beyond the years
Thine alabaster cities gleam
Undimmed by human tears!
America! America!
God shed his grace on thee
Till nobler men keep once again
Thy whiter jubilee!
 
Waz up I kniw this sounds wrong. But with those kids who were dancing and cherring with their moms. I wish i was in so I could kick al their asses. I ama aganist hitting chciks bet yesterday I felt like it. Any one who is palenstian ass will in trouble. They should know who to blame van ladein and the people who hide him. Wil pay price when their citys are destoryed and famlies killed. They will find out they wrong for no handing him over to us.
 
There's a piece of me that wants to see the skies of Afghanistan filled with a fleet of bombers and fighters that blot out the sun, that wants Bin Laden and all who aid him to have their nostrils filled with the stink of their children burning for once, that wants them to know nothing but screaming and fear and pain in their final moments.

But I don't want to give in to that part of me.

Another part of me understands that one can't resort to using indiscriminate killing in retaliation, or we lose a piece of our nobility and we never get it back. There's some truth to the argument that in lowering oneself to the terrorists' level, they ultimately win. I've read the reports which indicate that even though the Taliban shelters Bin Laden, the average citizen of Afghanistan is as much an innocent victim as the WTC casualties: Women, for example, are prisoners in their own homes, sitting and waiting to be killed when the Taliban suddenly decides that wearing glasses is a crime against Islam or some equally ludicrous thing. I don't believe my conscience will allow me to join the call to "Kill 'em all and let God sort 'em out."

However, I also understand that the aggressor sets the tone of the conflict. When you've got a pack of rabid jackals taking chunks out of you, you can't try to box them using Queensbury Rules and codes of gentleman's pugilistic sportsmanship. You shoot them like the dangerous animals they are. Too often, unfortunately, the right thing to do, the moral thing to do, and the necessary thing to do are not even close to being the same thing.

I agree that we should focus on the good being done: When I hear reports of every state in the Union sending relief personnel to assist in the rescue/recovery effort; of hospitals receiving more blood donors than they can accept at once; of rescue volunteers stating their intention to keep helping until they drop from exhaustion themselves; of cabdrivers helping to ferry relief personnel around the city; even of a shoe store just handing out sneakers to women who had abandoned their high-heels in order to run faster from the collapse site; then my eyes tear up and a roar of defiance begins to build in my throat. Call it corny, but I hear the strains of David Arnold's score from "Independence Day" (notably "The President's Speech" and "International Code") in the back of my head as I realize that these reports are the most important of all.

The perpetrators of this act sought to bring America to a standstill. They have failed miserably. We may be quiet now, we may be moving slowly now, but that is only a brief pause to gather and focus strength. When America's passion is aroused, and when given a common cause to direct it, we are the most unstoppable force the world has ever seen. As lame as it sounds, I remember a line from the old Dungeons and Dragons cartoon: "There is no darkness so powerful that even a single candle cannot chase it away."

In New York and Washington, and all across America, a great great great great many candles are shining into life tonight.
 
American-Arabs

I heard people walking down the street and saying "kill those towel-heads". As I am about to go into law enforcement, I realized that this is wrong, because these poor innocent human beings did not do anything wrong. But after watching CNN, how those mother fu**in pilots looked like a regular American Arab, makes me realize that any of the regular looking Arabs may be related, and makes me want to kill every single towel-head!!! I know this is wrong, but this is how I feel.
 
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