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Tickle Abuse fake?

A person can most easily escape from any commercial fetish shoot (bondage, tickling etc), just by uttering a safe-word or saying they wish to leave. They are consensual situations at the end of the day - models are there by their own free will.
There is a difference though in my humble opinion.
When you make a horror movie, you don't have to write subtitles, telling the viewer all the time that this is acting and no one is actually being killed, but it's not good if the action doesn't seem to be real on the screen.

What's more, talking about fun, it's more fun for the model to know that she doesn't have to suppress her reactions to keep herself in stocks. The real fun in tickling is about not being responsible for your own reactions and movements, letting it all out, while the restraints keep you in place and there is no escape if you don't give up 🙂
 
For all those with all the "behind the scenes" info about models claiming their faking it, .....which models?!

I am NOT in any way disagreeing with you, I believe this completely. I've been forever critical of, as I call the whole group, the "revolving fetish model group" of gals
who appear in scores of videos for scores of companies, and are pretty much ALL fakers. Sadly nowadays that's almost every tickle company.

I'd just love to hear WHO admitted it. Go ahead and name them, most aren't on here or don't bother reading these threads - the proof is they never chime in on
any topics, tickle related or general discussion, and don't even promote their clips, unless they own the company, and that was girls in the past.

Turtleboy DOES have many wonderfully ticklish models.

Tickle Abuse HAS in the far past had some great amateurs who were legit ticklish and had great laughs.

Some of the older companies that no longer make videos did also.

I remember an old video from Solefully Yours that had a girl tied to a chair being tickled who was laughing her ass off, saying "Stop stop stop!" amid her laughter, but it was that cute
"I'm loving the hell out of this" laughter.

I guess I'll use this time to describe the different laughs:

1. The REAL, pretty laughter that comes from tickling, that's enjoyable to listen to - sounds like "Ha ha ha." The best are when the girls seem to enjoy
it, and we debate whether they actually have a tickle fetish themselves.
This list would include girls like Avril from Czech Tickling, Savannah from Simply Tickling, Elizabeth from Tickle Haven, Ariana, Rachelle, and Kristen from Real Tickling, Glenora
from Tickling Paradise, and many more.

2. The screamers - girls who ARE legit ticklish, but scream their heads off. I don't care for this laughter, so I don't know many off hand, but Turtleboy tickles a few, and they're
pretty popular. His screamers and several others from other companies ARE REAL (Or are such damn good actresses, I'd give them a pass!)

3. Then there are the girls with mixed laughter, or maybe not that ticklish, but they still not faking it. They're being tickled, sometimes just not well, and you can tell they're
not faking it, ...the video just kind of sucks. Wendy had a video from FM Concepts like that, where she received that shitty FM Concepts "let's not actually tickle the girl"
tickling. Then she got tickled at Real Tickling after, (in suntan pantyhose, even better!) and got actual tickling from Kristen and another girl, and shot to category 1, real,
loud, wonderful laughter.
I'd also put legit ticklish girls who the listener just doesn't care for her laugh or reactions, but she's still ticklish.

4. Lastly, THE FAKERS. There are varieties of these also, some fake screamers, that sound like fake screamers. Some that have a full on conversation while being tickled.
Some that just fake laugh - often they actually say the words "ha ha, hee hee....." Sometimes the "Ha ha hee hee" sounds like bad line reading, ...those really suck.....
Or they say "Oh," or "Eww," or whatever, but you can obviously tell it's fake.

And hey!, if people buy those clips and enjoy them, more power to them! People pay to see shitty movies all the time or watch and enjoy crappy Reality TV.

So to say ALL tickle models were fakers is nonsense, because they had some greats out there, and still do.

My question that has never been answered aside from the girl just isn't interested is, if the girl LOOKS TO HELL as if she's having fun and IS ticklish, why
not do everything possible to hire her for the longest stint possible, OR, at least do like Turtleboy and a few other producers and TELL US WHY she doesn't care
to return. Sometimes they have a dream girl, she does a few shoots, and then we get nothing but a series of lackluster models for years after.

I know some get married, some like Elizabeth from Tickle Haven really couldn't take it anymore, some just moved on.....but....

It's like the current Daniel Craig James Bond situation: Daniel Craig stated he didn't care to do another James Bond movie, even saying he'd rather slit his wrists after shooting Spectre.
Even after all that, a year later, the producers STILL want to shoot with him! They simply said they loved working with him on James Bond, the loved him as James Bond,
and the audiences loved him, so all this current talk is TOTALLY understandable.

I simply wish some producers would look through their model files, find some older greats, and just try to get them back. Turtleboy's first video ever featured Nina...and years later,
she returned in some of her best shoots ever! He even got Emma Green back, someone he, and us, thought would never come back, and she had some of her best work yet.

I'm sure the current revolving rounds of non-ticklish fetish models are probably reliable, maybe they're just cheap to hire, maybe they're fun to work with, who knows.
I'm sure because they're "professional," they simply show up on time, every time, and dressed and ready to work so that's why they get so much exposure, like any mainstream actor
or actress. You ask Sasha Foxxx to show up in a black dress and sheer toe suntan pantyhose, and you know she will, ...that's probably less stress than a girl who will bitch and moan about
wearing stockings, and what are we doing again, and this is weird and blah blah blah...the "joys" of working with shitty non-professionals.

....but still, you watch someone like Avril, who I WISH was doing a video every month or two, as a TICKLER, and DAMN does she look like she's into it!
She laughed when her feet were worshiped. If you got someone like her, I'd be doing the Daniel Craig negotiations and saying "WHATEVER you need gorgeous!!"
Tickling Paradise had some greats - if they ever wanted to come back, just hire them again, shoot them with the current HD camcorders, and BAM!, they'd be back in business!
 
...that's probably less stress than a girl who will bitch and moan about
wearing stockings, and what are we doing again, and this is weird and blah blah blah...the "joys" of working with shitty non-professionals.
Oh my, you are describing my ordinary days of the producer of Tickle Therapy 🙂
We work mostly with this kind. But what a pleasure then to tickle them silly for all that! 🙂 And then this may pay off with wonderful genuine ticklish emotions captured and shared 🙂
 
Fantastic!
Thanks! )
Check out her best friend Irina.
How could this be that the two best friends turned out to be the most ticklish girls we found yet 🙂

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Tickle Therapy - Irina tickle therapy by Anyuta
Tickle Therapy - Irina tickle therapy by Tamara (faceup and facedown)
 
What's more, talking about fun, it's more fun for the model to know that she doesn't have to suppress her reactions to keep herself in stocks. The real fun in tickling is about not being responsible for your own reactions and movements, letting it all out, while the restraints keep you in place and there is no escape if you don't give up 🙂
Interesting. ....there's plenty of perceived fear out there tho of being tied. .....
 
My question that has never been answered aside from the girl just isn't interested is, if the girl LOOKS TO HELL as if she's having fun and IS ticklish, why
not do everything possible to hire her for the longest stint possible, OR, at least do like Turtleboy and a few other producers and TELL US WHY she doesn't care
to return. Sometimes they have a dream girl, she does a few shoots, and then we get nothing but a series of lackluster models for years after.

I've answered this question before and I know other producers have as well... but here it is again. Ignoring the fact that whether or not it's even any of your business (which is up for debate), we sometimes don't even know ourselves. Sometimes a girl turns up to a shoot, seems like she has a ball, and then drops off the face of the earth. You ever go on a date and things seem to be going great, and then she just never returns your calls? Same with the modeling industry. I have no idea where Julie, Roxy, and Catalina are these days, so I couldn't get them back if I wanted to. There's also a couple of girls who, no matter how they look on camera (...and fortunately this has only happened to me maybe once, tops) are an utter pain to work with, and aren't coming back unless they rake in the cash hand over fist. (And again, few of them do.)

I simply wish some producers would look through their model files, find some older greats, and just try to get them back. Turtleboy's first video ever featured Nina...and years later,
she returned in some of her best shoots ever! He even got Emma Green back, someone he, and us, thought would never come back, and she had some of her best work yet.

Honestly, what makes you think we don't do this? Why is the default assumption always that we're incompetent retards who need the Peanut Gallery to point out the obvious? I'd love to work with, say, Lolly Gagger again. But (and here's another reason why they don't come back), she was a one-shot opportunity who was in town for literally one night only. If I wanted to work with her again, I'd have to fly her out here from Louisiana, and there is absolutely no way she pulled in the kind of money that would allow me to do that.

Which brings me to another point; all models have a "shelf life". They sell really well when they're new, but then eventually people just stop buying. The material's just as good, but it doesn't matter. Kim was my most popular model of all time until I worked with Mya, but Kim hasn't sold a single clip in months; and even then, before Mya brought a bunch of new business to my store, Kim hadn't sold jack in almost a year. So there is absolutely no point in keeping a model on the payroll for any lengthy period of time.

And, this next bit may be unique to me alone, but here it is. Every model I've worked with more than once has lost me money in the long run. I'd bring her in, shoot an hour's worth of footage or so, and then after the initial clips sold well, bring her back for more (usually because she asked to), and then before the lens on my camera had even cooled off her clips would drop to nothing. It's very rare that I do multiple shoots with a single girl anymore because people want new faces more than they want to support individual talent. It's still possible that I'll see an upsurge in sales on enough of them to break even, but unless you've got the kind of draw that these big names pull, you can't even think about it.

Speaking of which...

I'm sure the current revolving rounds of non-ticklish fetish models are probably reliable, maybe they're just cheap to hire, maybe they're fun to work with, who knows.
I'm sure because they're "professional," they simply show up on time, every time, and dressed and ready to work so that's why they get so much exposure, like any mainstream actor
or actress. You ask Sasha Foxxx to show up in a black dress and sheer toe suntan pantyhose, and you know she will, ...that's probably less stress than a girl who will bitch and moan about
wearing stockings, and what are we doing again, and this is weird and blah blah blah...the "joys" of working with shitty non-professionals.

...or, and hear me out here, maybe they just sell better? A lot of people in this community have... weirdly unhealthy obsessions with either particular models, or simply insist on their videos featuring "professionals". I've been personally told off by at least one person on this forum because I hire local girls and don't work with the same dozen or so pros that everyone else apparently hires (so as an aside, if you really, truly are that sick of "everyone" using the same girls, buy from my store. I guaran-fucking-tee you that you will not see any of my models working for other producers because only two of them in the history of my company have been tickle fetish models previously, and you probably never heard of 'em anyway.)

Not only that, but none of the girls I've worked with have been anything less than professional. They don't complain and they certainly don't give me hassle; you can usually screen out the shitty ones before they even walk in the door. People are not shelling out huge wages for Dusty Gazongas because she doesn't bitch about showing up in pantyhose. They're doing it because Dusty has 2.5 kajillion followers on the Twitter who will throw money at you to see her in anything you shoot. This is what happened when I worked with Mya. Her fans came to my store in droves, relatively speaking, and gave me two of the best months I've ever had.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; nobody stops to think that maybe, just maybe, there's a reason why things are the way they are apart from the fact that we're all incompetent morons. But no, it's always "Why didn't so-and-so keep hiring whasserface? Is he an idiot?" - no. So and So wasn't an idiot. Whasserface didn't pull enough money to buy a Happy Meal, regardless of how many people yay on the forum about how much they love her. People jerking it over a forum thread does not equal sales, and in the end, sales are all that matter. We can't do anything that you guys want unless we can cover the costs, and that's just all there is to it.

You loved that last model I hired? Great! Did you buy the video in enough of a quantity for me to afford to hire her again? No? Then she's not coming back no matter how many times you call me an idiot.

And "lackluster" models happen because of the fact that we have no idea how you guys are gonna react to someone. I thought Lolly was great. Hell, people here fap it to Harley Quinn on a daily basis. And yet, I'm still waiting for her to make even half her money back. Point to any girl in my catalog that you think did awesomely (or should have), and I guarantee that you won't be able to tell which ones sold well and which ones didn't purely on the basis of their footage.

If you got someone like her, I'd be doing the Daniel Craig negotiations and saying "WHATEVER you need gorgeous!!"

So she says, "I need tree fitty", and all of the money she brought in over the course of her entire run with your studio was barely two fitty, so you'd be throwing out another hundred on the off-chance that she'll suddenly double her sales and then do fitty (err..fifty) percent more on top of that. The odds of that happening are pretty much nil, nine times out of ten.
 
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...then again, I can see why so many people assume producers hire fakes when some of them lie so much they can't even keep their own stories straight.

Tickle Therapy is purely nonfictional tickling company as we don't even see the reason why tickle therapy patients should be faking. In fact sometimes we ask them to try to pretend they are not ticklish, which is a mission impossible for them 🙂

yeah, you're non-fictional all right. Except for the part where you're not a therapist and they're not patients.

tickletherapist said:
I hope no one will ever think she was faking.

If they're really clients of yours and you're making hippy-dippy holistic healing videos for the good of mankind, as you like to swear that you are, then there's no need for them to fake it because you're not making videos for commercial consumption. Except that you are. You refer to yourself as a producer and your girls as models later on in this very thread.

Honestly? The well has been poisoned. It's not possible for legit producers to prove that they're legit, because even if they say they're legit people just assume they're lying. And then you have guys like this, who're just the latest in a long line of "we just found this girl at the mall and it's totally not staged, no really she just threw her shoes at us the second she saw the feather."

I'm torn, really. Ultimately you're selling a reaction, I feel; whether it's genuine or not, if it's what people want to see, they'll pay for it. But it really bothers me when you get shit like this, because some people actually buy into it.

turtleboy said:
but many people expect to see this nowadays. People expect to see taunting/teasing from the ler and begging/pleading from the 'lee (something which doesn't always happen in real life). A lot of people also like to see fully scripted story lines in their vids...I don't produce clips like this as it's not my preference, but I get requests for it all the time, and I guess that most producers do. Most of my custom requests involve some sort of story and a script. I get emails complaining that a model didn't shout certain phrases when she was being tickled, as if there is a standard response that models should give (seriously).

Y'know, I've been wondering for a while now if the bulk of this community isn't autistic. Or at the very least, the ones who pitch the biggest fits here on the forums may very well be. Whenever I think about how people throw such utter wobblies over the girls not saying the right things and other instances of absolutely horrible social skills I get the mental image of Dustin Hoffman shrieking his brains out in an airport because he "knows" the plane is gonna crash (ALL MODELS FAKE IT REEEEEEEE), underwear comes from K-Mart, and 4pm is Wapner. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.
 
Y'know, I've been wondering for a while now if the bulk of this community isn't autistic. Or at the very least, the ones who pitch the biggest fits here on the forums may very well be. Whenever I think about how people throw such utter wobblies over the girls not saying the right things and other instances of absolutely horrible social skills I get the mental image of Dustin Hoffman shrieking his brains out in an airport because he "knows" the plane is gonna crash (ALL MODELS FAKE IT REEEEEEEE), underwear comes from K-Mart, and 4pm is Wapner. No ifs, ands, or buts about it.


It comes from a wide array of factors, in my opinion. One of them would be that with the amount of tickling content out there, new clips day in and day out, viewers have been spoiled rotten. This is why you probably didn't have that problem back in the day when the consumer would consider it a home run to download a 15 MB video of a girl tickling another for a minute. It didn't matter what position the girl was in, what kind of apparel she was wearing, was she exaggerating, was she too thin/too thick, why wasn't the camera on the ler more. Nah, the viewer had his fix.

Nowadays a producer rolls out fine content, 2 days later, it's on pornhub for the viewer to stream those 8 minutes and dissect every part of the video and moan about the 8 minutes they just wasted while the girl could have had nicer reactions,etc...

Another Factor would be frustration. The overwhelming number of tickle video viewers have never tied and tickled/been tied and tickled. You can only enjoy videos long enough for that satisfaction to turn to frustration. The standard has been set in the videos: beautiful women tickling other beautiful women, toned bodies, all out sex appeal. Creating unimaginable degrees of desire. Unable to convert desire to reality, viewer turns to rant.
 
I've answered this question before and I know other producers have as well... but here it is again. Ignoring the fact that whether or not it's even any of your business (which is up for debate), we sometimes don't even know ourselves. Sometimes a girl turns up to a shoot, seems like she has a ball, and then drops off the face of the earth. You ever go on a date and things seem to be going great, and then she just never returns your calls? Same with the modeling industry. I have no idea where Julie, Roxy, and Catalina are these days, so I couldn't get them back if I wanted to. There's also a couple of girls who, no matter how they look on camera (...and fortunately this has only happened to me maybe once, tops) are an utter pain to work with, and aren't coming back unless they rake in the cash hand over fist. (And again, few of them do.)



Honestly, what makes you think we don't do this? Why is the default assumption always that we're incompetent retards who need the Peanut Gallery to point out the obvious? I'd love to work with, say, Lolly Gagger again. But (and here's another reason why they don't come back), she was a one-shot opportunity who was in town for literally one night only. If I wanted to work with her again, I'd have to fly her out here from Louisiana, and there is absolutely no way she pulled in the kind of money that would allow me to do that.

Which brings me to another point; all models have a "shelf life". They sell really well when they're new, but then eventually people just stop buying. The material's just as good, but it doesn't matter. Kim was my most popular model of all time until I worked with Mya, but Kim hasn't sold a single clip in months; and even then, before Mya brought a bunch of new business to my store, Kim hadn't sold jack in almost a year. So there is absolutely no point in keeping a model on the payroll for any lengthy period of time.

And, this next bit may be unique to me alone, but here it is. Every model I've worked with more than once has lost me money in the long run. I'd bring her in, shoot an hour's worth of footage or so, and then after the initial clips sold well, bring her back for more (usually because she asked to), and then before the lens on my camera had even cooled off her clips would drop to nothing. It's very rare that I do multiple shoots with a single girl anymore because people want new faces more than they want to support individual talent. It's still possible that I'll see an upsurge in sales on enough of them to break even, but unless you've got the kind of draw that these big names pull, you can't even think about it.

Speaking of which...



...or, and hear me out here, maybe they just sell better? A lot of people in this community have... weirdly unhealthy obsessions with either particular models, or simply insist on their videos featuring "professionals". I've been personally told off by at least one person on this forum because I hire local girls and don't work with the same dozen or so pros that everyone else apparently hires (so as an aside, if you really, truly are that sick of "everyone" using the same girls, buy from my store. I guaran-fucking-tee you that you will not see any of my models working for other producers because only two of them in the history of my company have been tickle fetish models previously, and you probably never heard of 'em anyway.)

Not only that, but none of the girls I've worked with have been anything less than professional. They don't complain and they certainly don't give me hassle; you can usually screen out the shitty ones before they even walk in the door. People are not shelling out huge wages for Dusty Gazongas because she doesn't bitch about showing up in pantyhose. They're doing it because Dusty has 2.5 kajillion followers on the Twitter who will throw money at you to see her in anything you shoot. This is what happened when I worked with Mya. Her fans came to my store in droves, relatively speaking, and gave me two of the best months I've ever had.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; nobody stops to think that maybe, just maybe, there's a reason why things are the way they are apart from the fact that we're all incompetent morons. But no, it's always "Why didn't so-and-so keep hiring whasserface? Is he an idiot?" - no. So and So wasn't an idiot. Whasserface didn't pull enough money to buy a Happy Meal, regardless of how many people yay on the forum about how much they love her. People jerking it over a forum thread does not equal sales, and in the end, sales are all that matter. We can't do anything that you guys want unless we can cover the costs, and that's just all there is to it.

You loved that last model I hired? Great! Did you buy the video in enough of a quantity for me to afford to hire her again? No? Then she's not coming back no matter how many times you call me an idiot.

And "lackluster" models happen because of the fact that we have no idea how you guys are gonna react to someone. I thought Lolly was great. Hell, people here fap it to Harley Quinn on a daily basis. And yet, I'm still waiting for her to make even half her money back. Point to any girl in my catalog that you think did awesomely (or should have), and I guarantee that you won't be able to tell which ones sold well and which ones didn't purely on the basis of their footage.
True words my friend. ^^^

Ive been debating chiming in on this one being that I dont consider myself to be that big of a "producer". But what Solemates said is correct.

There is a certain disconnect between the TMF and sales for a model. People will comment and rave about a preview here and yet ill see nothing in sales. Or the opposite will happen. Plus the entire piracy issue that is always a pain. Hmm no sales. Lets check pornhub.....Bingo.
How TA or some of you guys make any money with how much stuff is pirated is wizardry to me.

As for hiring pro models. I do it for three reasons.

1. Is they are available and willing to shoot and usually proactive in setting up shoots when they are in my area.

2. I dont have to give my sales pitch to pros. I dont have to respond to email after email explaining to a new model who's never worked in fetish how a shoot goes and hope she shows up to shoot. (Often they flake)

3. Pro models have name recognition. And they do sell reasonably well. Compared to a newbie who may or may not work out.

Now then. As for the "Fakers" I havent encountered one in the Pro circuit. Everyone ive worked with has been wonderful and ticklish.

I have however. Had a total of 3 amateurs show up to shoots who said they were ticklish left and right until the camera turns on. Then bupkiss
Nada.

Then i got "should i just fake it?"

No dammit lol
Those girls weren't paid and i ended the shoots right then and there. Bummers too because they were beautiful.

If they arent ticklish. Youll never see it from my site.

Now, as for why models disappear. Bunch of reasons. Jealous boyfriends. New jobs, moved away. And my personal favorite twice now. Left me for another guy. Fun times.
 
It comes from a wide array of factors, in my opinion. One of them would be that with the amount of tickling content out there, new clips day in and day out, viewers have been spoiled rotten. This is why you probably didn't have that problem back in the day when the consumer would consider it a home run to download a 15 MB video of a girl tickling another for a minute. It didn't matter what position the girl was in, what kind of apparel she was wearing, was she exaggerating, was she too thin/too thick, why wasn't the camera on the ler more. Nah, the viewer had his fix.

Nowadays a producer rolls out fine content, 2 days later, it's on pornhub for the viewer to stream those 8 minutes and dissect every part of the video and moan about the 8 minutes they just wasted while the girl could have had nicer reactions,etc...

Another Factor would be frustration. The overwhelming number of tickle video viewers have never tied and tickled/been tied and tickled. You can only enjoy videos long enough for that satisfaction to turn to frustration. The standard has been set in the videos: beautiful women tickling other beautiful women, toned bodies, all out sex appeal. Creating unimaginable degrees of desire. Unable to convert desire to reality, viewer turns to rant.

truth
 
I'm sure some of them are acting but I'd guess the majority are not. I've seen a lot of their clips where the women are going nuts and it doesn't seem they could pull it off as an act.
 
True words my friend. ^^^

Ive been debating chiming in on this one being that I dont consider myself to be that big of a "producer". But what Solemates said is correct.

I'm literally some douchebag with a DSLR and a personal blog, and I make a point to pop on in these merry old threads!

Have you guys tried setting up Tumblr blogs? They get crazy traffic and have gotten me a bit of popularity, much more so than this place. I think it never hurts to explore non-TMF options as far as advertising and trying to get some product out there. I've also had luck with DMCA takedowns, though this might be due in part because, again, my content is hosted on what's essentially a commercial site so I don't have to fight the awkward battle of getting into legal fights with pornos, but most of you guys also dabble in very vanilla content and I think it's worth a shot.

Jealous boyfriends.

Lol this one's always fun.
 
Vadim/Masha?
Vadim and Masha were much fun working with 🙂 They were tickled together so no jealousy problems 🙂

I'm talking about some jealous boyfriends who don't allow their girlfriends to be tickled even by female therapists. This way we lost Polina who was one of the most ticklish girls ever.
Tickle Therapy - Tickle therapy for Polina
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Polina - interview and preview on Youtube channel Tickle therapy
We had plans for her, would be so cool to tickle her more. But that's what happens when you are beautiful and have a jealous boyfriend 🙂
 
I've answered this question before and I know other producers have as well... but here it is again. Ignoring the fact that whether or not it's even any of your business (which is up for debate), we sometimes don't even know ourselves. Sometimes a girl turns up to a shoot, seems like she has a ball, and then drops off the face of the earth. You ever go on a date and things seem to be going great, and then she just never returns your calls? Same with the modeling industry. I have no idea where Julie, Roxy, and Catalina are these days, so I couldn't get them back if I wanted to. There's also a couple of girls who, no matter how they look on camera (...and fortunately this has only happened to me maybe once, tops) are an utter pain to work with, and aren't coming back unless they rake in the cash hand over fist. (And again, few of them do.)



Honestly, what makes you think we don't do this? Why is the default assumption always that we're incompetent retards who need the Peanut Gallery to point out the obvious? I'd love to work with, say, Lolly Gagger again. But (and here's another reason why they don't come back), she was a one-shot opportunity who was in town for literally one night only. If I wanted to work with her again, I'd have to fly her out here from Louisiana, and there is absolutely no way she pulled in the kind of money that would allow me to do that.

Which brings me to another point; all models have a "shelf life". They sell really well when they're new, but then eventually people just stop buying. The material's just as good, but it doesn't matter. Kim was my most popular model of all time until I worked with Mya, but Kim hasn't sold a single clip in months; and even then, before Mya brought a bunch of new business to my store, Kim hadn't sold jack in almost a year. So there is absolutely no point in keeping a model on the payroll for any lengthy period of time.

And, this next bit may be unique to me alone, but here it is. Every model I've worked with more than once has lost me money in the long run. I'd bring her in, shoot an hour's worth of footage or so, and then after the initial clips sold well, bring her back for more (usually because she asked to), and then before the lens on my camera had even cooled off her clips would drop to nothing. It's very rare that I do multiple shoots with a single girl anymore because people want new faces more than they want to support individual talent. It's still possible that I'll see an upsurge in sales on enough of them to break even, but unless you've got the kind of draw that these big names pull, you can't even think about it.

Speaking of which...



...or, and hear me out here, maybe they just sell better? A lot of people in this community have... weirdly unhealthy obsessions with either particular models, or simply insist on their videos featuring "professionals". I've been personally told off by at least one person on this forum because I hire local girls and don't work with the same dozen or so pros that everyone else apparently hires (so as an aside, if you really, truly are that sick of "everyone" using the same girls, buy from my store. I guaran-fucking-tee you that you will not see any of my models working for other producers because only two of them in the history of my company have been tickle fetish models previously, and you probably never heard of 'em anyway.)

Not only that, but none of the girls I've worked with have been anything less than professional. They don't complain and they certainly don't give me hassle; you can usually screen out the shitty ones before they even walk in the door. People are not shelling out huge wages for Dusty Gazongas because she doesn't bitch about showing up in pantyhose. They're doing it because Dusty has 2.5 kajillion followers on the Twitter who will throw money at you to see her in anything you shoot. This is what happened when I worked with Mya. Her fans came to my store in droves, relatively speaking, and gave me two of the best months I've ever had.

I've said it before and I'll say it again; nobody stops to think that maybe, just maybe, there's a reason why things are the way they are apart from the fact that we're all incompetent morons. But no, it's always "Why didn't so-and-so keep hiring whasserface? Is he an idiot?" - no. So and So wasn't an idiot. Whasserface didn't pull enough money to buy a Happy Meal, regardless of how many people yay on the forum about how much they love her. People jerking it over a forum thread does not equal sales, and in the end, sales are all that matter. We can't do anything that you guys want unless we can cover the costs, and that's just all there is to it.

You loved that last model I hired? Great! Did you buy the video in enough of a quantity for me to afford to hire her again? No? Then she's not coming back no matter how many times you call me an idiot.

And "lackluster" models happen because of the fact that we have no idea how you guys are gonna react to someone. I thought Lolly was great. Hell, people here fap it to Harley Quinn on a daily basis. And yet, I'm still waiting for her to make even half her money back. Point to any girl in my catalog that you think did awesomely (or should have), and I guarantee that you won't be able to tell which ones sold well and which ones didn't purely on the basis of their footage.



So she says, "I need tree fitty", and all of the money she brought in over the course of her entire run with your studio was barely two fitty, so you'd be throwing out another hundred on the off-chance that she'll suddenly double her sales and then do fitty (err..fifty) percent more on top of that. The odds of that happening are pretty much nil, nine times out of ten.


So much truth!!!!





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