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Tickle torture the most efficient torture?

I think this thread come up as often as "I am straight, but I like to tickle or be tickled by other guys" thread. Tickling is not really torture. In my experience, it causes at best minor discomfort in the vast majority of people. And even most people become desensitized to the tickling within a few minutes. Therefore, it would not be very "efficient". Tickling is used as a torture in children's programming and in campy comedies. If actual torture methods were used in the programs, they would no longer be child appropriate or a comedy. Look, tickling is a great as form of sexual play and fantasy, but tickling as an actual torture does not exist.
 
Iggy pop said:
Look, tickling is a great as form of sexual play and fantasy, but tickling as an actual torture does not exist.
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I wouldn't go THAT far. I've worked with a few girls for whom it WAS torture. Even with a safe word in place they end up sore and in tears. Real tears. I can only imagine what would happen if I was an asshole.

That said, my go-to example for real torture is a scene from an old Punisher comic. An MI6 guy needed the double agent to talk. He left Frank alone with him for all of twenty seconds before the agent was screaming that he would tell them everything. When Frank came back out, the MI6 guy asked him how he got him to crack so quickly. Frank replied, "I took out one of his eyes."
 
Iggy pop said:
Tickling is not really torture. In my experience, it causes at best minor discomfort in the vast majority of people. And even most people become desensitized to the tickling within a few minutes. Therefore, it would not be very "efficient". Look, tickling is a great as form of sexual play and fantasy, but tickling as an actual torture does not exist.
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I understand exactly what you are saying but I agree and disagree.

Don't forget everyone has varying levels of ticklishness. From 0- hyper ticklish. 0-11

Let's say I am going to torture someone for information. And let's say they are a 5 on the scale. If they are anywhere from a 0-4 I probably wouldn't bother to continue with tickling to interrogate them. But if they are anywhere from a 5-11... that can be worked with. I would start with low level tools like a feather and work my way up to finger nails and deep prodding. And obviously it would take a few days to see if there spots remain ticklish or vary. And other tickling tools.

Now... let's say I am successful in finding the persons most ticklish spots. And since they are a 5 on the scale their ticklishness lasts maybe 10 minutes or less per area now. Let's say 5 mins and they are ticklish on their stomach and neck only. Ok... ten minutes of tickling... ten or 20 off to let them rest and regain sensitivity. Then I start over. All throughout the day and evening. After sleep it starts over.

Now if I'm getting nowhere... I would start arousing their genitals and deny them an orgasm. However I had to do it. Through tickling, handjobs... whatever. Not cumming drives people crazy. And from my own experience it also drives up their ticklishness. So... let's say what I am doing is working... and I have increased their ticklishness to last for 10 minutes each area. And now blue balled a man or turned on immensely a woman. If none of that worked... that's when pain comes in... to go from sensual torture to pain... most people I feel would talk and talk quickly. Especially if I start the pain on their genitals. Just showing someone a knife near their genitals... nipples... would be enough to get them to talk.

Now obviously this is all situation and person dependent. And time dependent. And I'm sure most interrogations the interrogators want the information FAST. So... I think tickling can be done as a torture... but it can be a slow and consistent based torture with enough time. Or maybe as an add on.

*Note: I have never tortured nor interrogated someone. But I can dream. 😉 (Without the pain part.)
 
CapturedDoll said:
I understand exactly what you are saying but I agree and disagree.

Don't forget everyone has varying levels of ticklishness. From 0- hyper ticklish. 0-11

Let's say I am going to torture someone for information. And let's say they are a 5 on the scale. If they are anywhere from a 0-4 I probably wouldn't bother to continue with tickling to interrogate them. But if they are anywhere from a 5-11... that can be worked with. I would start with low level tools like a feather and work my way up to finger nails and deep prodding. And obviously it would take a few days to see if there spots remain ticklish or vary. And other tickling tools.

Now... let's say I am successful in finding the persons most ticklish spots. And since they are a 5 on the scale their ticklishness lasts maybe 10 minutes or less per area now. Let's say 5 mins and they are ticklish on their stomach and neck only. Ok... ten minutes of tickling... ten or 20 off to let them rest and regain sensitivity. Then I start over. All throughout the day and evening. After sleep it starts over.

Now if I'm getting nowhere... I would start arousing their genitals and deny them an orgasm. However I had to do it. Through tickling, handjobs... whatever. Not cumming drives people crazy. And from my own experience it also drives up their ticklishness. So... let's say what I am doing is working... and I have increased their ticklishness to last for 10 minutes each area. And now blue balled a man or turned on immensely a woman. If none of that worked... that's when pain comes in... to go from sensual torture to pain... most people I feel would talk and talk quickly. Especially if I start the pain on their genitals. Just showing someone a knife near their genitals... nipples... would be enough to get them to talk.

Now obviously this is all situation and person dependent. And time dependent. And I'm sure most interrogations the interrogators want the information FAST. So... I think tickling can be done as a torture... but it can be a slow and consistent based torture with enough time. Or maybe as an add on.

*Note: I have never tortured nor interrogated someone. But I can dream. 😉 (Without the pain part.)
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I think you're really overthinking actual torture.

Torture isn't some dude in a labcoat "denying cumming" to some dude tortuously.


Torture is "Let me take a pair of scissors to your nutsack, let me flatten your toes with a hammer one by one, let me rip your skin off in strips made by a box cutter and throw salt in the raw spots left over, let me beat your children to death in front of you while they cry out "Daddy, help me!", let me duct tape you to a chair and take a power drill to your kneecaps in front of your wife..

...tickling at it worst is uncomfortable.
Torture at its worst is a complete breakdown of humanity.


I don't understand this equation between the two, or the desire on behalf of some people to make an equation.
We all find tickling to be a beautiful thing.
That's why we're here.
We've all got this little beastie inside of us that will never go away no matter what we do and that ties us all together.
Actual torture..the real shit..has nothing in common with what we all love.
I promise you.
 
CapturedDoll said:
Now obviously this is all situation and person dependent. And time dependent. And I'm sure most interrogations the interrogators want the information FAST. So... I think tickling can be done as a torture... but it can be a slow and consistent based torture with enough time. Or maybe as an add on.
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Not exactly. There are multiple kinds of torture and they serve different purposes. If they want information and they want it NOW, yes. You're gonna lose an eye. They won't waste time tickling you.

However, sometimes it's better to wear someone down over time, not necessarily for interrogation but just to exert dominance. Not all torture is about finding out where the enemy is hiding.

Tickling has absolutely been used as torture: old Amnesty International testimonies from imprisoned Falun Gong members in China detail it. In cases like this the goal is to break you so completely that you'll believe anything they say. In that case, it was to renounce the cult and embrace the Party line. You can't do that in one shot; you can't just say "we'll rip your fingernails out if you don't say you love Communism." But after a month of starvation, sleep deprivation, and regular beatings you'll sign up in a heartbeat.
 
If tickling was useful torture, it would be used outside of our fantasyworlds. Referring to present time and not 7000 years ago in China
 
Most efficient at turning me on.

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chicago said:
If tickling was useful torture, it would be used outside of our fantasyworlds. Referring to present time and not 7000 years ago in China
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The abuses of Falun Gong members I mentioned have been documented as recently as 2014.

http://en.minghui.org/html/articles/2012/4/9/132626.html

A policeman publicly abused and insulted another female practitioner by touching her breasts; the policeman found amusement by counting her ribs and touching her chest area, tickling her for fun.
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Rectangle said:
I think you're really overthinking actual torture.

Torture isn't some dude in a labcoat "denying cumming" to some dude tortuously.


Torture is "Let me take a pair of scissors to your nutsack, let me flatten your toes with a hammer one by one, let me rip your skin off in strips made by a box cutter and throw salt in the raw spots left over, let me beat your children to death in front of you while they cry out "Daddy, help me!", let me duct tape you to a chair and take a power drill to your kneecaps in front of your wife..

...tickling at it worst is uncomfortable.
Torture at its worst is a complete breakdown of humanity.


I don't understand this equation between the two, or the desire on behalf of some people to make an equation.
We all find tickling to be a beautiful thing.
That's why we're here.
We've all got this little beastie inside of us that will never go away no matter what we do and that ties us all together.
Actual torture..the real shit..has nothing in common with what we all love.
I promise you.
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Yeah you're right... that stuff is flat out ugly. What we do is beautiful with the ride we take the body/ person on. So that being said... I guess I use the word torture as part of the non consensual FANTASY.
 
People are still trying to make the case on this thread.
I think some people have an interest in it being a legitimate form of torture and bend over backwards to perceive it as such..
..even though comparative to actual torture it's not, at all..
 
SoleMates said:
Not exactly. There are multiple kinds of torture and they serve different purposes. If they want information and they want it NOW, yes. You're gonna lose an eye. They won't waste time tickling you.

However, sometimes it's better to wear someone down over time, not necessarily for interrogation but just to exert dominance. Not all torture is about finding out where the enemy is hiding.

Tickling has absolutely been used as torture: old Amnesty International testimonies from imprisoned Falun Gong members in China detail it. In cases like this the goal is to break you so completely that you'll believe anything they say. In that case, it was to renounce the cult and embrace the Party line. You can't do that in one shot; you can't just say "we'll rip your fingernails out if you don't say you love Communism." But after a month of starvation, sleep deprivation, and regular beatings you'll sign up in a heartbeat.
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I hear you there with everything you said. Excellent points.

(I'm going to be light hearted here but...)So... maybe tickling would benefit in term of interrogators...marathon runners the most. Watch out everyone who runs the NY marathon every year. LOL!!! (loss of breath... tiring the body...)

That joke aside.., yeah tickling can never be considered in the same category for real life tortures. But as for our fantasies... we WILL make them talk... 😉
 
Rectangle said:
People are still trying to make the case on this thread.
I think some people have an interest in it being a legitimate form of torture and bend over backwards to perceive it as such..
..even though comparative to actual torture it's not, at all..
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No you set me straight. I completely hear you and understand everything you have written in the last 2 days Thank you very much Rectangle.
 
And also Rectangle I will now for the future be finding different ways to explain it to people. I will probably continue to use the word torture occasionally in the bedroom... and my erotic stories/videos. I would now not to say rail against it in public... but there are more appeasing ways to explain tickling especially for people who are new to it. You put it so beautifully in a previous post to duderino I would not want people to miss that aspect of it. Not for anything.
 
And I could never and will never dismiss what people have gone through since time began to make this fetish become grander somehow. Nope. You set me straight. Thank you.
 
if the ticklee is really ticklish? it may be very efficient because it is almost harmless so that you are free to apply for hours
 
hlkkln said:
if the ticklee is really ticklish? it may be very efficient because it is almost harmless so that you are free to apply for hours
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Yeah...no. Life is not like videos or stories.
And real torture (the kind that Rectangle was referring to) can last for a lot longer than hours.
 
Would I say that tickling is the most efficient torture? No, definitely not. Their are thousands of ways to inflict harm, physically or mentally on a person, and If I needed to get somebody to talk, in a serious situation, tickling would probably not be the first place (or second, or third) I would go.

That being said, I have heard of people that for them, tickling is pretty much painful. I have also heard of people in the adult industry who are more comfortable being hurt then they are tickled. I would say that I agree that tickling is more of a discomfort then torture for most people, but I would say that there are some who are ticklish enough that tickling would probably fall into the realm of torture for them. Granted, I imagine this would likely be a very, very, small percent.
 
Depends for what. As torture with a goal to deliver pain to someone, definitely no, not even close. As torture with a goal to make someone uncomfortable, humiliate him and not to leave a mark on him - potentially.

Is tickling underrated as torture? Can't answer since I don't know where was tickling really tested as torture (yes, I know those popular stories). Tickling as torture exists mostly in our minds and possibly at some gatherings with rather playful environment. By reading various RL stories, tickling can be quite torturous. How torturous or efficient can it really be I don't know. I'd test that on myself, but gimme bondage table dommes tools etc. and I'll let ya know.
 
hlkkln said:
if the ticklee is really ticklish? it may be very efficient because it is almost harmless so that you are free to apply for hours
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Absolutely, and I think you've hit on what most of the nay sayers have missed. It's not the best go-to torture for extracting information from just anybody, like our friend's bicycle chains. But for a significant chunk of the population, it can be just as effective, perhaps even more so with a little psychology thrown in.

In short, if everybody were as ticklish as XLaughingLisaX, tickling would probably rank in the top three torture techniques, and probably rank number one in cases where time is of the essence and bodily harm is off the table. But not everybody is, so the pricks generally go for what works on anybody.
 
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