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UK Tickling: Three-Girl Tickle Torture - Angelina's Turn!! (F/F, FF/F, NYLON, BARE)

Thanks for the sensible comments Haribish

I am sorry to argue my corner but isn't your last comment a piece of self advertisment. Really. you should be ashamed. my ideas of a forum are obviously not the same as yours nor it would appear "moderator Haribish" . I think I should become a moderator.
 
Hello "moderator". Haribishi. I have never at any time been abusive! Harsh maybe. but we are all adults here. your message could have been sent privately? Or was I destined to be crucified ( only metaphorically!) publicaly? What moderation!

Note the first part of my post, I didn't accuse anyone of being abusive.

I did however remind, and I will quote myself "those who need it" not to be abusive in their replies, what would be the point of privately sending to you a message that is clearly presented to address the whole situation rather than the dabbles of a single member?

So yes, public it is. Take from it what you will as I'm sure others have done. It is interesting that you felt the whole thing was directed solely at you though.
 
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TB, why even bother replying to that garbage? I don't think anyone here is going to be swayed one way or the other by that guy. Your work speaks for itself and I anxiously await the next Angelina clip.

Thanks tkmstr...you're right, I should have ignored him from the start rather than feeding him! I plan to from now on anyway - he'll find something else to do eventually (or not as the case may be!)
 
Scarlot's nylon and Angelina used to be licking the nylon color is very good,suntan pantyhose is also good. hope the color is more soft nylon. Skin color / nude color!
 
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Note the first part of my post, I didn't accuse anyone of being abusive.

I did however remind, and I will quote myself "those who need it" not to be abusive in their replies, what would be the point of privately sending to you a message that is clearly presented to address the whole situation rather than the dabbles of a single member?

So yes, public it is. Take from it what you will as I'm sure others have done. It is interesting that you felt the whole thing was directed solely at you though.

that is bullshit. Your post was clearly directed at me! snap out of it and read it again.
 
that is bullshit. Your post was clearly directed at me! snap out of it and read it again.

I'm not discussing the matter with you, I'm telling you and the other participants of the thread how it is. There were users replying to your comments in a way which I wasn't happy with as well so no, it this isn't all about you.

Choose your path, I've made you and everyone else here aware of my concerns with the situation, now its over to you to decide how you will act, but questining what I am doing and why is irrelevant.
 
It may well happen at some point - perhaps if I can get Ayla in a scene with Tigerr or Amy! 🙂

We did do some brief nipple tickling (with electric toothbrush) in the nude scene I shot with Ayla later - she hated it though!!

If you do that I would love you as only a man that loves tickling of gorgeous women can do (means buying the clip 😛)

Usually if the nips are sensitive enough either they get horny when tickled there or hate it a lot 😛 try with something softer like nails, tongue or a medium feather 😉
 
A gentle reminder to those who need it, the golden rule is "If you don't have something nice to say, don't say anything at all"

If you have an opinion you wish to put across then do so constructively and politely, if you disagree with a comment or how a comment has been made then avoid being abusive towards the one who made it, simply report it.

An opinion is still just an opinion, I would imagine anyone who has been accusing models of not being ticklish have no proof to make their word any more reliable than the producers. Fortunately no one is forcing anyone to either watch previews or buy clips, if you dont like what you see and if you find this to be a regular occurrence then perhaps its time to accept this isnt the producer for you and to stop looking at his threads let alone posting in them.

If you need any encouragement it may help to remember that every time you post about how disappointed you are in the thread you then bump this thread to the top of the clips section where people who support and enjoy this producers work will disregard what you have to say and will be thankful that you bumped the thread, or else they may had missed it.


Hari

I beg to differ Hari

your rule is gold, but now analyze the contest in which we are: a person makes a product, another person don't like it.

As far as it goes, there is freedom of speech, unless it become abusive, racist, denigratory or whatever else may cause harm (psychological or physical) to another person.

I may not agree with what a user may say, but here we have a product presented to the mass of potential customers, and a person that is expressing an opinion....no more no less like you would do on amazon after buying a new mixer and saying how much you love it or how much it sucks.

Do they censor or say "don't review a product please if you have something negative to say"? I have never seen such thing, and the nature of the message is commercial, so I guess that anyone selling material wanna have feedback, to know what to change and what to keep.

Now, still using amazon and the mixer; if the mixer is good, and one person has a bad experience with it; you will see the product with 1 star review and 100 5 stars reviews....which means that a potential buyer knows that the product is great, but there MAY be a flaw somewhere (and which product does not have flaws? Cmon); this will not change the perception that potential customers may have of a product; just make them more aware.

In this case someone didn't liked something made by TB, he has the right to say what he does not like, politely and respectfully; then he should avoid to continue to post about this or that producer that he didn't liked the clips, and the story is over.

From what you said it seems like if someone don't like a clip or a producer should stay quiet, otherwise other people may get the idea that the product is not good and loose sale income...well that's called censorship, and is illegal on internet as much it is on physical soil (Not familiar with UK laws but you should have a similar amendment in your constitution that allow people to express their opinion, right?).

If he didn't liked the clip is his problem; as far as he comment once, don't continue to post in anything that TB post saying the same things and just move on no harm is done; don't you think?

TB sells a bunch; one comment would not affect him for sure; especially because many likes his work; then we are talking about something that cannot be demonstrated anyway (ticklishness); and let's remember that even if a model is faking; we are buying clips to enjoy a fantasy, so if she fake well I am happy...are you complaining if green lantern is not really flying but is suspended with wires? if there is no thor and spiderman but they are just CG? On a porn movie do you ask for a proof that a girl had an orgasm?

When you go to the theater you buy a ticket for a show; in our case we buy a clip for a show; same exact thing; then if a model is truly ticklish is good, otherwise it is fine anyway 🙂

You have a great power; the one to moderate and control how the flow goes on a forum; but this imply that you must also be careful to not illegally shun people; the line is pretty thin and sometimes people just get involved personally, while they should be super-partes and look at the facts, not at what they think is right or wrong.

I am sure that your message was just to tell someone to not exceed with certain comments, but the words used transmit more like a suggestion to not bash on producers, did I misunderstood your thoughts?
 
I beg to differ Hari

your rule is gold, but now analyze the contest in which we are: a person makes a product, another person don't like it.

As far as it goes, there is freedom of speech, unless it become abusive, racist, denigratory or whatever else may cause harm (psychological or physical) to another person.

I may not agree with what a user may say, but here we have a product presented to the mass of potential customers, and a person that is expressing an opinion....no more no less like you would do on amazon after buying a new mixer and saying how much you love it or how much it sucks.

Do they censor or say "don't review a product please if you have something negative to say"? I have never seen such thing, and the nature of the message is commercial, so I guess that anyone selling material wanna have feedback, to know what to change and what to keep.

Now, still using amazon and the mixer; if the mixer is good, and one person has a bad experience with it; you will see the product with 1 star review and 100 5 stars reviews....which means that a potential buyer knows that the product is great, but there MAY be a flaw somewhere (and which product does not have flaws? Cmon); this will not change the perception that potential customers may have of a product; just make them more aware.

In this case someone didn't liked something made by TB, he has the right to say what he does not like, politely and respectfully; then he should avoid to continue to post about this or that producer that he didn't liked the clips, and the story is over.

From what you said it seems like if someone don't like a clip or a producer should stay quiet, otherwise other people may get the idea that the product is not good and loose sale income...well that's called censorship, and is illegal on internet as much it is on physical soil (Not familiar with UK laws but you should have a similar amendment in your constitution that allow people to express their opinion, right?).

If he didn't liked the clip is his problem; as far as he comment once, don't continue to post in anything that TB post saying the same things and just move on no harm is done; don't you think?

TB sells a bunch; one comment would not affect him for sure; especially because many likes his work; then we are talking about something that cannot be demonstrated anyway (ticklishness); and let's remember that even if a model is faking; we are buying clips to enjoy a fantasy, so if she fake well I am happy...are you complaining if green lantern is not really flying but is suspended with wires? if there is no thor and spiderman but they are just CG? On a porn movie do you ask for a proof that a girl had an orgasm?

When you go to the theater you buy a ticket for a show; in our case we buy a clip for a show; same exact thing; then if a model is truly ticklish is good, otherwise it is fine anyway 🙂

You have a great power; the one to moderate and control how the flow goes on a forum; but this imply that you must also be careful to not illegally shun people; the line is pretty thin and sometimes people just get involved personally, while they should be super-partes and look at the facts, not at what they think is right or wrong.

I am sure that your message was just to tell someone to not exceed with certain comments, but the words used transmit more like a suggestion to not bash on producers, did I misunderstood your thoughts?


"did I misunderstood your thoughts?"

Yes, you did indeed 🙂

And im gonna go ahead and NOT be insulted that you assume I don't understand how to analyse a situation and instead I shall explain to you why my message was made.

There is certainly nothing wrong with someone letting a producer know that he doesn't like the product, and indeed why they don't like it, but it has to be done like I stated in my message "constructively and politely".

I don't believe that following a producer around the forum and making accusations constantly about the authenticity of the models reactions with no proof is constructive at all, and doing so over and over again, it causes arguments eventually which brings me to the other issue my message touched on.

When person A makes an accusation and person B disagrees and then person A doesn't like what person B had to say etc etc, we have an argument, an argument where neither side have any proof either way, and what this does is result in something like this: "you're talking shit" "no you're talking shit" and repeat.

This will be avoided and I that was the point, things were showing the first signs of getting heated, why wait for the house to burn down before you put out the fire? Most listened to what I had to say.

However, one didn't, which lead to action rather than nice little messages.

To summarise, this isn't censorship, this is reminding people to be polite and we also have every right to extinguish fires before they do damage, its Jeff's house and we are his guests, the least we can do is respect the rules put in place let alone prevent it from burning to the ground.


Hari
 
"did I misunderstood your thoughts?"

Yes, you did indeed 🙂

And im gonna go ahead and NOT be insulted that you assume I don't understand how to analyse a situation and instead I shall explain to you why my message was made.

There is certainly nothing wrong with someone letting a producer know that he doesn't like the product, and indeed why they don't like it, but it has to be done like I stated in my message "constructively and politely".

I don't believe that following a producer around the forum and making accusations constantly about the authenticity of the models reactions with no proof is constructive at all, and doing so over and over again, it causes arguments eventually which brings me to the other issue my message touched on.

When person A makes an accusation and person B disagrees and then person A doesn't like what person B had to say etc etc, we have an argument, an argument where neither side have any proof either way, and what this does is result in something like this: "you're talking shit" "no you're talking shit" and repeat.

This will be avoided and I that was the point, things were showing the first signs of getting heated, why wait for the house to burn down before you put out the fire? Most listened to what I had to say.

However, one didn't, which lead to action rather than nice little messages.

To summarise, this isn't censorship, this is reminding people to be polite and we also have every right to extinguish fires before they do damage, its Jeff's house and we are his guests, the least we can do is respect the rules put in place let alone prevent it from burning to the ground.


Hari

Well, my bad then...and I was not assuming that you do not know how to do your job; but simply that in many cases is hard to keep a consistent line, so in some cases when someone may be over the top someone may loose it a bit; that's all that I mean when i was pointing out the "different cases needs different way to see things" discussion 🙂

I just saw one post, so I was not aware that the bashing was done constantly and consistently (simple rule...don't like a producer avoid to even look at what he makes; I have some producers that I do not like and I just skip their posts without even looking at them, is not that hard if you ask me); i can understand that a video or 2 may be crappy (happens to all ); or that you may get a model that fake worst than others or does not have the reactions that people would expect, so in that case there is bashing; but doing so for every single post seems to me like a personal attack, and not something that I want to see on this board for sure.

I like arguments when they are done with polite and respectful means; after all the forum is not made to be a big commercial ground for producers, nor to have fanboys to play the ode to joy for every clip made by X or Y; but a place were people confront with each other about preferences, what they like or would like to see, to signal a very nice clip/producer that they loved particularly, or to say that they didn't liked this or that clip/producer (mentioning why of course...even if is a matter of personal feelings if there is no logic explanation about the like or dislike of something it means that something is wrong).

I remember the place before that Jeff made this forum; was different since the producers were fewer, and people were more lenient since you may find 10-20 movies a year dedicated to tickling, compared to the thousands of clips that you get every year nowadays; so I am still adapting to the new mentality of the tickling forums (and is almost 10 years that I wander here LOL), but one thing is still present in my mind: the very essence of why this forum was created, and that was to talk and discuss about tickling 🙂 So i expect to see people talking of X or Y, and not only to see X released this or Y made that....maybe I am old school, but when i wanna buy stuff I know where to look, while if i wanna hear unbiased reviews about the clips is a bit harder, since seems that the negative comments are buried in favor of the positive ones (and returning to the amazon example; I wanna read also the 1 star review, right?).

Anyway I appreciate the fact that you took time to bring your thoughts in a clear way; I just hope that we can keep an attitude towards the "lets' talk first and then strike users"; since more or less everyone here is adult, mature and responsible, so keeping a constructive and polite conversation should not be a problem....is not like we preemptively strike; this is not some foreign country under some regime 😉 But you do what you gotta do, I am not here for sure to tell you what is right and what is wrong 🙂
 
In this case someone didn't liked something made by TB, he has the right to say what he does not like, politely and respectfully; then he should avoid to continue to post about this or that producer that he didn't liked the clips, and the story is over.

If he didn't liked the clip is his problem; as far as he comment once, don't continue to post in anything that TB post saying the same things and just move on no harm is done; don't you think?

Hi footamateur. If the above were true in this case, it wouldn't have been an issue - if he were a disatisfied customer, posting a specific complaint in a non-abusive way, for example. The fact is he clearly wasn't someone who had ever bought any of my clips, but rather somebody who didn't just approve of the look or style of my clips, my use of glamour models, production etc. He made accusations that they are all 'fake' (something which I take exception to anyway) and repeatedly made insulting posts about my clips. He had previously done this to other producers too. In this case, he also insulted anyone who publically disagreed with his comments, no matter how politely they did so.

TB sells a bunch; one comment would not affect him for sure; especially because many likes his work; then we are talking about something that cannot be demonstrated anyway (ticklishness); and let's remember that even if a model is faking; we are buying clips to enjoy a fantasy, so if she fake well I am happy...are you complaining if green lantern is not really flying but is suspended with wires? if there is no thor and spiderman but they are just CG? On a porn movie do you ask for a proof that a girl had an orgasm?

I do sell a reasonable amount of clips, but only enough that I can stay in business with my current production costs. Whilst I trust that my customers can exercise their own judgement, certain negative comments do have an impact on sales which I suspect is often the intention behind them. Accusations of 'fakery' cannot be proved, but once made they cannot be disproved either...anyone can start a rumour with no factual basis whatsoever. The trouble is, some people will always believe it and so there are negative consequences.

With mainstream films and vanilla porn, special effects and fakery are expected and necessary. In tickling videos they are not and I firmly believe that the overwhelming majority of producers do not produce any faked content...to actually produce a realistic fake video would require far more planning, effort and time than to produce a real one anyway - it just doesn't make any sense!

For my own part, I actually only release about 50-60% of all the content that I shoot (I have hard drives full of models and scenes that never see the light of day). That is because sometimes models aren't ticklish, sometimes they aren't quite ticklish enough or their reactions just aren't likely to cut it with most people. In each case I lose money through paying for shoots that I don't ever release clips from, but it is the price I pay for maintaining the standard that I strive for. A lot of people don't realise the effort and cost that goes into making decent videos.
 
It may well happen at some point - perhaps if I can get Ayla in a scene with Tigerr or Amy! 🙂

We did do some brief nipple tickling (with electric toothbrush) in the nude scene I shot with Ayla later - she hated it though!!

Hate it as in, sadly we won't be trying it agin or hate it as in unbearable and can't wait for the next shoot? 😉 Some more nipple tickling clips with the models would be great, very sexy indeed!
 
If you do that I would love you as only a man that loves tickling of gorgeous women can do (means buying the clip 😛)

Usually if the nips are sensitive enough either they get horny when tickled there or hate it a lot 😛 try with something softer like nails, tongue or a medium feather 😉

Hate it as in, sadly we won't be trying it agin or hate it as in unbearable and can't wait for the next shoot? 😉 Some more nipple tickling clips with the models would be great, very sexy indeed!

Hopefully you'll both like that one....in Ayla's case she said it is something she finds really unbearable rather than pleasant, though it definitely gets a reaction at least! There is more boob tickling coming up with Scarlot as well 🙂
 
All three of those ladies are fantastic. So's turtleboy. It's only a matter of time until Angelina passes out from tickling one of these days. 🙂

Thanks Joe...strictly speaking, it should have happened in this one if it was going to lol! 🙂

These are a great set of clips. Angelina looks amazing in that red lingerie. Her ribcage looks so exposed and when Scarlots nails work it is awesome. Love her expressions when the girls just hold their fingers over her as she's dreading what comes next!

Thanks TR! They were more than a little mean to her... 😀

great stuff as always- many thanks for posting the clip.

Thanks Chris 🙂
 
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Angelina is tickled by licking !!
Angelina in this picture's nylon is great !!

Scarlot's nylon and Angelina used to be licking the nylon color is very good,suntan pantyhose is also good. hope the color is more soft nylon. Skin color / nude color!

Thanks supersuper99 and I hope you liked the little clip on the members site too!

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Hope that more of the best beauty will be tickled by Ayle's licking tickle! !

I'm sure Ayla will be doing it again in the future! 🙂
 
Hi footamateur. If the above were true in this case, it wouldn't have been an issue - if he were a disatisfied customer, posting a specific complaint in a non-abusive way, for example. The fact is he clearly wasn't someone who had ever bought any of my clips, but rather somebody who didn't just approve of the look or style of my clips, my use of glamour models, production etc. He made accusations that they are all 'fake' (something which I take exception to anyway) and repeatedly made insulting posts about my clips. He had previously done this to other producers too. In this case, he also insulted anyone who publically disagreed with his comments, no matter how politely they did so.

I do sell a reasonable amount of clips, but only enough that I can stay in business with my current production costs. Whilst I trust that my customers can exercise their own judgement, certain negative comments do have an impact on sales which I suspect is often the intention behind them. Accusations of 'fakery' cannot be proved, but once made they cannot be disproved either...anyone can start a rumour with no factual basis whatsoever. The trouble is, some people will always believe it and so there are negative consequences.

With mainstream films and vanilla porn, special effects and fakery are expected and necessary. In tickling videos they are not and I firmly believe that the overwhelming majority of producers do not produce any faked content...to actually produce a realistic fake video would require far more planning, effort and time than to produce a real one anyway - it just doesn't make any sense!

I was not aware of the whole thing (as you can imagine i read only what is in the posts that I consider interesting; and Hari's reply just gave me a bad feeling like something was out of place; that's why I replied).

As said I agree that if the attacks are aimed to a specific producer and are reiterate and lack of fundaments, they should not be tolerated....we cannot kill everyone that is not on our favorite list, unless we want the planet desert in few years 🙂

I can understand that when someone puts out rumors about a model or a product you get a positive or negative effect; but this is how it is with any product that is sold on the market; it is on the list of issues that may arise, when you start to sell something; but usually people are smart enough to see between the fake comments and the ones aimed just at cause hassle.

I disagree on the differences between vanilla porn and tickling industry; it is the same industry, with the same objective (make money).
In the same way that is not really that hard to find a hot gal that opens her legs, is not that hard to find a hot gal that take off her shoes for a fetish video; but while is much harder to find a gal that is not able to have an orgasm, is much easier to find one that is not ticklish (or as you said, not as ticklish as the majority likes); so the problem with tickling videos is that the models may not have that "mandatory" characteristic, which makes the product not appealing, as you pointed out.

But accentuate the moaning like almost all the actress do is considered OK and totally fine, so in my opinion, a girl that accentuate the laughs or say what turns on people, is also something to consider acceptable; isn't it? She may not even be that ticklish and make clips that sells a lot because of how she act, what she says and how she do what people like to see.

I may pay to see a model say what turns me on, or react in the way that I like; and I would not really care if she likes it or not, nor if her toes are her most ticklish spot or not...if i like to tickle the toes she gotta laugh and beg to satisfy my interest, since I pay her to satisfy a fantasy of mine;and that's all that matters 🙂

If I want something real then I would buy a gonzo type porn video, and same would be for tickling videos, where I would get non scripted tickling shots, with genuine reactions (like Canelli to make an example). The idea that the woman in porn fake (and is fine), and the same porn star in the tickling industry fake (and is not fine), should be considered as the same case....in both cases we wanna see what turns us on; independently if what is happening is real or not.

Now if an actress is a real dog and does not even know how to fake tickling....in that case is really a waste of time to even shot with her; but I would consider the bad actress faking tickling at the same level of the ticklish actress that is not able to give satisfactory reactions; in both cases my suspension of disbelief and my needs are not satisfied, so matters really little if she is ticklish or not, if she is not able to turn me on and make me get an happy ending while watching the clip.

I apologize for remarking on this particular topic, but I thought that was the right time to express a personal opinion (that may have others that agree or not), since you as producer are listening (or at least i hope that I haven't lost you few paragraphs ago LOL); my idea of tickling video changed a lot in the years; so I hope that we get outside this concept of ticklishness assumed or proven, and just focus on great contents instead...from my part you do an excellent job and I am glad that you make these clips (and how you make them).
 
When will the Ayla tickling Angelina and Scarlot clip be released?
 
This has been purchased, fantastic, tk industry classic, we like to actively buy, with the support uktickling, so as to inspire turtleboy produce even better video, and look forward Ayle's licking tickling, licking tickler want to increase-Scarlot,certainly hope Scarlot really like licking, barely no good results! ! ! !
 
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