What gender do you like to tickle?

[mariam]

I like tickling both,but i prefer be tickled by a woman.

 

[GuldenVleugel]

Women, giving and receiving. It's only a pity that avarga non-fetish women don't seem to be as sadistic enough to tickle effectively, whiel the slightest touch results in them laughing their asses off.

 

[Kalamos]

The poll results themselves are not accurate. You should have had seperate gender responses for both males and females to respond as to their preference.
Rather expected that Females would be the most desired ticklee/victim. 😉 🙄 🙂
TTD

TickledToDeath has a good point there: we only know female ticklees to be more desirable than male ones. But poll's not telling us by whom.

On the other hand, judging from the replies, asking about sexual orientation would have shocked some gentlemen... so... better leave some secrets uncovered. 😉


Reg's.

 

[steph]

I've only tickled men~never played with a girl before.
XOXO

 

[MistressValerie1]

I can't believe the lack of interest in F/M tickling online 🙁 In real life, F/M accounts for about 99.99% of the tickling that I've seen in four different countries, among mainstream (non-BDSM) people ranging from high-school and college kids to middle-aged people flirting in bars and nightclubs. Oh well -- in this case, art does not imitate life, lol.

 

[Kalamos]

Have a theory here.

A man tickling a woman might be perceived as abusing her - so, I suspect most M/F fans actually settle for F/M just to experience tickling.

When and if the female tickler trusts them enough, they eventually turn tables.

Oddly enough, I never had to let a lady/woman/girl tickle me before I could tickle her, so I'm out of this rule myself.


EDIT:

It suddenly dawned on me: ONLINE is the word.

Since some satisfy their need for F/M tickling in the real life, they have little use for staged F/M tickling online.

On the other hand, if they want M/F and get none in the real, online facilities offer what they lack in the real world.

Online fantasies sate unfulfilled real-worlds needs: we usually look for what is scarce, not for what is plentiful. 🙂


Reg's.

 

[TickledToDeath]

No surprise at the outcome of this pole, huh?! Even IF the ratio of M to F was closer than expected or actuall IS, there are alot of F/F gals here too but still, the outcome was a no brainer. Actually I am surprised the gap wasn't wider!


TTD

 

[MistressValerie1]

A man tickling a woman might be perceived as abusing her

That is exactly how I perceive it, which is why I find it aversive 🙂

It suddenly dawned on me: ONLINE is the word.

Since some satisfy their need for F/M tickling in the real life, they have little use for staged F/M tickling online.

On the other hand, if they want M/F and get none in the real, online facilities offer what they lack in the real world.

Online fantasies sate unfulfilled real-worlds needs: we usually look for what is scarce, not for what is plentiful. 🙂

Reg's.

I hadn't thought of this, but I believe that you're correct 🙂 Your analysis reminded me of something from psychology class many years ago. One of our professors had told us that the incidence of an event in erotica is inversely proportional to its occurrence in real life because erotica is mainly about fulfilling fantasy needs rather than reflecting reality.

My own practice of basing even fictional stories on real-life events is probably uncommon. This fantasy-fulfillment principle would explain the popularity of ultra-violent S&M fiction, precisely because it reflects things people would never do in real life.

Thank you for your insights! 🙂

Love and squi... er, you know what I mean 😉

 

[Kalamos]

A man tickling a woman might be perceived as abusing her.

That is exactly how I perceive it, which is why I find it aversive 🙂

I find it "fascinating", but I am a deeply evil, immoral, abusive person. 😉

*Insert maniacal insane wicked laughter here*

😉

I hadn't thought of this, but I believe that you're correct 🙂 Your analysis reminded me of something from psychology class many years ago. One of our professors had told us that the incidence of an event in erotica is inversely proportional to its occurrence in real life because erotica is mainly about fulfilling fantasy needs rather than reflecting reality.

Speaking of fantasies, a certain quota of users prefer watching F/F over M/F.
This could be due to the fact they are turned off by the sight of another man, even if he is briefly seen, or fully clothed.

Turn off might be caused by negative comparision [the male tickler is a professional model/body builder], unattractive element [the male tickler is an average guy, and detracts from the scene] or implied violence [the male tickler is abusing a bound woman].
In any case, the presence of a man on screen is a distraction - takes away from the fantasy and bars the viewer from total relax and immersion with the scene.

Lesbian tickle fantasies, on the other hand, allow the viewer to sympathize with either the top and the sub, switching in his fantasy between the two roles, slipping from the tickler to the ticklee, and back.

To a male viewer, a female-only scene is probably less threatening, and ultimately more relaxing: in his mind, he can "impersonate" a female character, because a "female mask" has *less* features than a male one.

He can pretend to be the top female character, without embarassing comparisions; but he could also assume the submissive role, without feeling abused, since the tickler is "only" a woman, a character he has already sympathized with/taken the role of.

In a way, lesbian fantasies are probably solipsistic in scope - the viewer slips between the roles and it is as if he were tickling himself, or more correctly, his feminine side.

He could never do that with a strongly characterized F/M or M/F scene: roles are set and perspective is strictly one-way; lesbian characters on the other hand act as "blank", universal masks the viewer can easily put on or take off, or characterize as he sees fit.

Note, I've used almost exclusively the male pronoun so far - but male homo scenes might work for some women the same way lesbian scene appeal to some men - since comparative or distracting element could apply to women too.

Yet, traditional gender roles might equally bar some women from assuming a male submissive role: they'd rather assume a dominating character [either male or female], or go for a female submissive one.

My own practice of basing even fictional stories on real-life events is probably uncommon. This fantasy-fulfillment principle would explain the popularity of ultra-violent S&M fiction, precisely because it reflects things people would never do in real life.

Basing fictionary stories in real life settings is actually a way to augment the effect of "forbidden fantasy".

Setting a fetish story in a fictitious world eventually dilutes the charge and impact of the fantasy itself - as if the writer wanted to compensate for the oddity of the fetish with a weird wrapping - effectively turning the attention away from the sexual element.

On the other hand, resorting to real world means the whole story has to revolve around the fetish element - with no outside help from the setting.

Also, real life settings allow the writer to make up "turn table" fantasies more effectively - involving otherwise untouchable characters [like teachers, trainers, or co-workers].

Real-world fantasies run on a deeper level: they strike more primitive chords and involve inner, more strongly rooted instincts.
Tickling [or having sex] with an elven ranger or imperial assassin is probably a "shallower" fantasy [since it is shared by fewer persons], than, say, tickling or having sex with your teacher. 😉

Thank you for your insights! 🙂

Welcome! Thank you for reading my rambling. 🙂

Love and squi... er, you know what I mean 😉

Gives drawing ideas... 😀


Reg's.

 

[MistressValerie1]

K., thanks very much for your thoughtful and detailed reply 🙂 I am highly impressed with your well-reasoned theory of why fem-fem material is so popular among heterosexual male viewers. Would it be OK with you if I quote some of your statements at one of my own discussion boards? 🙂

 

[tukano_2]

About the poll: basically I (would) like to tickle and be tickled by women. I wouldn't find funny or attractive the idea of tickle a man or be tickled by a man, if we were just the 2 of us, but I could consider tickle a man or be tickled by a man if a woman expresses the desire to watch that (read about some women here who find that attractive, even arousing :->). I would find a situation like that intriguing, even if I usually prefere to have some ladies involved in the action 🙂 Any way I can find tickling between men funny some times, and in the end my hands wouldn't turn into stone just because I've tickled a man, I think most people's fears about that are exaggerated.

I can't believe the lack of interest in F/M tickling online In real life, F/M accounts for about 99.99% of the tickling that I've seen in four different countries, among mainstream (non-BDSM) people ranging from high-school and college kids to middle-aged people flirting in bars and nightclubs. Oh well -- in this case, art does not imitate life, lol.

Mmm... My personal experience about that is rather different. Not that I do much tickling, tickler or ticklee, but what I witness daily would be something like 30% F/M - 70% M/F, to leave out F/F, quite frequent.

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A man tickling a woman might be perceived as abusing her.
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That is exactly how I perceive it, which is why I find it aversive
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I find it "fascinating", but I am a deeply evil, immoral, abusive person. 😉
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Never thought about that this way, but probably it depends on how ruthless and obsessive the tickling is: probably a man tickling a woman merciless and for more time than it is considered acceptable in a public place, with the woman screaming and so on, that could be disturbing, but the opposite woudn't be much more acceptable, in my opinion. If it's funny and it doesn't last more than, say, 1-2 minutes, I think few people would have something to say against that, regardless of the genders.

 

[Dr. Ticklefesto]

Male, female, doesn't matter...

The only thing that matters baby is power, and I GOT THE POWER!

*wields He-man sword high into the air*

 

[Kalamos]

K., thanks very much for your thoughtful and detailed reply 🙂 I am highly impressed with your well-reasoned theory of why fem-fem material is so popular among heterosexual male viewers. Would it be OK with you if I quote some of your statements at one of my own discussion boards? 🙂

Well, thanks. No problem with me.
Just tell me which one exactly; I might contribute more actively. 🙂

EDIT:

As long as you are positively impressed with my "rambling", that is... 😀
J/K. 😉

About the poll: basically I (would) like to tickle and be tickled by women.
I wouldn't find funny or attractive the idea of tickle a man or be tickled by a man,

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in the end my hands wouldn't turn into stone just because I've tickled a man, I think most people's fears about that are exaggerated.

A tickle fetish is not something strictly sex-related: you can tickle out of mischief, for fun, to punish or to assert yourself.

You could tickle a person just to embarass him [her] without sexual intents - "overpowering" someone by tickling could be elating to a sadistic tickler, without being sexually exciting as - say - a strip dancer.

In the same way people are elated and excited by risk, by gambling, by speed - even if no plain sex is involved - a tickle fetishist might be elated by tickling in itself, regardless of genders.

If it's funny and it doesn't last more than, say, 1-2 minutes, I think few people would have something to say against that, regardless of the genders.

Let me point out our nation/culture is a bit different from most anglosaxon countries: laws work, and are enforced and perceived differently, too.

I've tickled people who - elsewhere - would probably sue me just because I touched their feet. 🙂
Instead, they just *laughed* and said "Oh, please, stop, I'm ticklish".

Tickling shoud be widely recognized as a strictly sexual/harassing activity before laws take an interest in it.

I know many hope it won't happen any soon. 🙂


Reg's!

 

[MistressValerie1]

Hi, K; probably at the MSN Group or the new forum, since message threads are hard to follow at Yahell 🙂

Thanks,

 

[Kalamos]

Msn? K, got it.

...

Mmm... that rabbit-like-plushy-thingie is really cute.

[A-ha! The totally-off-topic-poster-from-Europe strikes again... 😉 ]

 

[David Tyler]

...........................
Speaking of fantasies, a certain quota of users prefer watching F/F over M/F.
This could be due to the fact they are turned off by the sight of another man, even if he is briefly seen, or fully clothed.

Turn off might be caused by negative comparision [the male tickler is a professional model/body builder], unattractive element [the male tickler is an average guy, and detracts from the scene] or implied violence [the male tickler is abusing a bound woman].
In any case, the presence of a man on screen is a distraction - takes away from the fantasy and bars the viewer from total relax and immersion with the scene.

Lesbian tickle fantasies, on the other hand, allow the viewer to sympathize with either the top and the sub, switching in his fantasy between the two roles, slipping from the tickler to the ticklee, and back.

To a male viewer, a female-only scene is probably less threatening, and ultimately more relaxing: in his mind, he can "impersonate" a female character, because a "female mask" has *less* features than a male one.

He can pretend to be the top female character, without embarassing comparisions; but he could also assume the submissive role, without feeling abused, since the tickler is "only" a woman, a character he has already sympathized with/taken the role of.

In a way, lesbian fantasies are probably solipsistic in scope - the viewer slips between the roles and it is as if he were tickling himself, or more correctly, his feminine side.

He could never do that with a strongly characterized F/M or M/F scene: roles are set and perspective is strictly one-way; lesbian characters on the other hand act as "blank", universal masks the viewer can easily put on or take off, or characterize as he sees fit.

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I have to disagree here about one of your points. I am a big fan of F/F tickle scenes. Why? Not because I identify with either Lee or Ler but rather I can fantasize about tickling them both. In effect, they both become my Lee's even though only one is a victim in the clip.

I can vividly recall one clip that showed some bound and helpless female stocking feet being ruthlessly tickled while being held near ample and bare breasts. I had the advantage of both sights. In many others, the Ler is in stockings while the Lee is being tickled. I can enjoy the veiw of both. While the Ler is not being tickled, she's appealing to the stocking foot fetishist in me. Again, two desires being satisfied at once.

I do, however, agree that a man in the scene takes away from the experience. I have to mentally erase him from the scene in order to enjoy it. I'm not convinced that he represents a threat to me but rather that he's more of a 'buzz kill'. Tickling is definitely sexual to me and the last thing I want to think about in an erotic situation is anything masculine.

 

[Kalamos]

I am a big fan of F/F tickle scenes. Why? Not because I identify with either Lee or Ler but rather I can fantasize about tickling them both. In effect, they both become my Lee's even though only one is a victim in the clip.

Oh yes, of course! 🙂

Another reason why scenes involving male ticklers seem to be less popular: it is less likely the viewer will fantasize to tickle the man, than the woman/women.

Some might identify with the male tickler, pretending to be him in the scene, but to many, he is probably just a distraction.

I can vividly recall one clip that showed some bound and helpless female stocking feet being ruthlessly tickled while being held near ample and bare breasts. I had the advantage of both sights. In many others, the Ler is in stockings while the Lee is being tickled. I can enjoy the veiw of both. While the Ler is not being tickled, she's appealing to the stocking foot fetishist in me. Again, two desires being satisfied at once.

Perfectly clear; I left it out since I thought it was the first reason why vanilla lesbian porn is popular: two girls look better than a girl and a man. 😀
An oversight on my part, but thanks for reminding it. 🙂

I do, however, agree that a man in the scene takes away from the experience. I have to mentally erase him from the scene in order to enjoy it. I'm not convinced that he represents a threat to me but rather that he's more of a 'buzz kill'. Tickling is definitely sexual to me and the last thing I want to think about in an erotic situation is anything masculine.

I should elaborate further: a male tickler is not a threat to *you* as a loaded gun in the hands of a hostile man. 😀
But he threatens to distract you from the sexual situation: you have to erase him mentally, and that's why he is a threat.
Not to you - but to your fantasy.

It is not fear factor, but distracting/disgusting/disturbing factor.
A male in the scene might make the viewer less relaxed: you said you had to deliberately ignore him before you could enjoy the scene in a sexual way.
That's where "threat" kicks in: you have to make an effort, conscious or not, to exclude him - or have your fantasy ruined. 🙂

Probably some people don't mind - or would rather have a male tickler/top in a scene, since they sympathize/identify with him - but from the poll I'd say it is less likely. 🙂


Reg's!

 

[featherfingers]

I am a big fan of women of all ethnic backgrounds, shapes and sizes, hair color, and ear lobe lengths. I do not find men appealing for tickling, sex, etc., even if the man is gorgeous... I'm not gay, but I can admire a man's appearance. However... I have seen a number of transvestites and transsexuals who look so much like women that tickling them would be an enjoyable experience. It's the illusion that he/she is projecting that I find intriguing.

 

[olsilverfox]

always has been always will be girls I just love them so

 

[ticklishcutie39]

I said both genders as I have found myself finding,chatting,meeting more male lers,ticklees that I would love to tickle and to be tickled by myself,but only recently have I expanded my love of being tickled by a female as well 🙂. I can find a female just as attractive,inviting to tickle though I am attracted more to guys 😉.

 

[snazzi]

This poll would be better if the options were:
Same Sex
Opposite Sex
Both
Neither

It would be interesting to do a poll for guys only and girls only and compare the results

 

[CheshireCatNY]

Although I'm inclined more towards females, I have had a lot of fun with guys too 😀

 

[emsindahouse]

this is all very interesting ............especially what mistress valerie mentioning hmm about her experience with more f/m tickling than m/f tickling I'm sorry if I offend anyone but I have always loved to tickle women never men it's just is not my thing. but even though I am more of a ler than lee I probably let a girl get me into a position where she could have her way with me but that depends on the lady 😉

 

[diddywc]

Females only, I'm not a homophobe or anything just women have softer prettier feet and I get more opportunity and of an urge to tickle women than men

 

[iluvsoftsoles]

Gender?

:happy: WOMEN ARE NICE...