what is the true nature of profound tickling?

[natscott6282]

been in tmf a while now I think its my second year and I noticed in posts and comments and mainly in chats that there is a wideeee range in what different members think of someone being tickled at their very maximum levels of ticklishness,

I know what I mean by it ( as in literally being tickled at their very maximum levels of ticklishness so they are in an absolute frenzy from it going totally hysterical and frantic , falling apart and having a complete meltdown )

but some ppl say it is tickling them u til they cant take any more

so I wonder what it is for you for the person to be experiencing profound tickling ?

thx btw for all the good convos i been having with members of tmf !! hope i am not too annoying with my obsession over extreme and sfw tickling

 

[WickedTouch]

You aren't being annoying at all! It's nice to hear your perspective and your passion for it is energizing 🙂

For me, it would be going beyond what the person can take, reaching that point of complete emotional surrender where you can tell the lee is just as surprised as you are at their actions, sounds, and attempted words. Their will is broken, and they'd do anything to make it stop. The evolved logical human brain melts away and you're left with a hypersensitive primal body pulling as hard as it can against its unforgiving bonds. When the air is palpable with desperation, you know you're there! I love most forms of tickling, but this is one of my favorites. That's why when I'm leeing, I prefer to go CNC. Otherwise, if I have a safe word, I'll use it long before I get to this point.

 

[wolfman40]

Each session for me is different!

Even though I go to events, I find it difficult to ask for play with a potential partner, due to shyness!

So most of the play I've enjoyed at events is at the nearby hotel most folk stay at, and has been pre-arranged, the rapport has already been built up.

My usual style I'd say is playful, gentle,teasing but I like to please a partner and indulge their fantasy's more than my own pleasure.

I'm not into torturing someone or breaking them, maybe bending them a little, I had a super fun session a while ago, where the person I played with did safe word, obviously the tickling stopped straight away.

What I like most is that feeling of contentment afterwards, when you're on that calm, relaxed, blissed out moment, where you can stroke your partners back (not roode) chill out and munch on chocolate and pringles, or even better the total package of going down the bar for some fries and a cheeky glass of wine

 

[milagros317]

You are not being annoying! I am fascinated by the topic of profound tickling.

The closest that I have come to your description of it is this:

It was in the spring of 2006. I was having a three-hour session with Mistress Kassandra (who has since retired from being a professional Domme).
She had me tied down to a bondage table with my arms extended far above my head and a big, thick pillow under my butt. She climbed up on the table, straddling me, and dug into my ribs. Using both thumbs, she did deep tickling up and down my rib cage, then went to my most vulnerable spot, between my second and third ribs (counting from the bottom up).
Staying on that spot, on both sides simultaneously, she smiled as I went berserk, thrashing and struggling to no avail. After an endless time of ticklish agony, she looked into my eyes, deeply, and, without stopping the relentless movement of her thumbs, she said, "I know that you're suffering and it amuses me. It amuses me greatly."

That broke me the most ever in all my experiences, before and since. God bless you, Mistress Kassandra.

I have tried to replicate this experience with other professional Dommes, but none had the skill of Mistress Kassandra. None was able to reproduce the berserk frenzy that MK achieved.

I still hope to experience that again.

 

[natscott6282]

Each session for me is different!

Even though I go to events, I find it difficult to ask for play with a potential partner, due to shyness!

So most of the play I've enjoyed at events is at the nearby hotel most folk stay at, and has been pre-arranged, the rapport has already been built up.

My usual style I'd say is playful, gentle,teasing but I like to please a partner and indulge their fantasy's more than my own pleasure.

I'm not into torturing someone or breaking them, maybe bending them a little, I had a super fun session a while ago, where the person I played with did safe word, obviously the tickling stopped straight away.

What I like most is that feeling of contentment afterwards, when you're on that calm, relaxed, blissed out moment, where you can stroke your partners back (not roode) chill out and munch on chocolate and pringles, or even better the total package of going down the bar for some fries and a cheeky glass of wine

ye but

what is the true nature of profound tickling?​

 

[South_Atmo]

For me, it's absolute surrender to the sensation. It's not necessarily when the lee is at their most ticklish, or that they've been broken; not that it can't be. There's a point where the lee is just... laughing. It still has the the ticklish panic and desperation pitch to it, but it's more... it's that deep, heavy laughter that comes straight from the pit of the inner recesses of the stomach. Their eyes are shut, but not squeezed tight, but closed almost comfortably. they are still bearing a forced smile, but it's not quite contorted to showcase agony, but it's almost a pleasurable one. Their movements and convulsions are almost exclusively from the laughter. Maybe they rock back and forth or side to side. Their head is tilted back. They aren't begging, or screaming, or thrashing. It's almost as if the body and mind have been reduced to the most basic and primal reaction to the sensation which is just to lay there and laugh. That, to me, is real profound tickling.

Ok... I'm going to go take a walk now that I'm all flustered. Lol!

 

[maniactickler]

Severe tickling is my cup of tea. 😈

 

[A/S/H]

been in tmf a while now I think its my second year and I noticed in posts and comments and mainly in chats that there is a wideeee range in what different members think of someone being tickled at their very maximum levels of ticklishness,

I know what I mean by it ( as in literally being tickled at their very maximum levels of ticklishness so they are in an absolute frenzy from it going totally hysterical and frantic , falling apart and having a complete meltdown )

but some ppl say it is tickling them u til they cant take any more

so I wonder what it is for you for the person to be experiencing profound tickling ?

thx btw for all the good convos i been having with members of tmf !! hope i am not too annoying with my obsession over extreme and sfw tickling

Honestly I find this part of you really interesting. I've never come across someone into this enough to start thinking philosophically about it. You're like a tickle scientist. You wanna know all there is to know about tickling and that's a really exciting idea. I kind of have an obsession with severe tickling too. It's the opposite for me though because I'm a lee and I feel a bit shy talking about it, but reading your threads really scratches an itch lol. I wanna participate more in your discussions but sometimes I feel like this is above my level lol. I don't have much experience so I don't feel I'd have much to contribute, but I really enjoy reading your threads. You're really descriptive and it sometimes makes me shiver lol. To me, at least, you'll never be annoying and I'll always look forward to your next new thread!

 

[milagros317]

These two quotes from a blog by a poster with screen name Meg seem to be describing something like profound tickling:

Meg on September 8, 2018 at 6:59 pm

I do agree about pressing in too hard and i don’t tend to go in for the quick tickles but if you do get good access to the entire rib cage and like you say it is completely immobilized and open then i have managed to locate the precise pressure points along each bone and carefully press and gently massage them. If you locate them properly and carefully rub them then the tickling is not just maddening it can literally jolt through their entire being. It’s as if you have tickled them to their very core. Then if you can place each of your fingers on several of these places along both sides of their rib cage and begin rhythmically squeezing gently into the bones you get the full experience of a deep to the core tickle. So i suggest beginning very very slowly and subtly which will already send them into a panic as they are shocked about how ticklish it feels. Look in his eyes at that point to see the shock and regret. Then gradually build it up.

Meg on October 4, 2018 at 5:25 am
It is a strange paradox i agree but if you are careful and know what you are doing then there is no risk of hurting anyone. One thing i learned for squeezing tickling like on the rib cage and hip bones was to carefully place each finger on a hot spot and gently press in with a wiggling finger motion. You really only need gentle pressure even for “hard tickling” because the nerves react just as strongly and you can carry on far far longer. When i do it this way i find that the entire body tries to reflexively wrench itself from the ticklish grip. If you manage to maintain contact with the hotspots throughout and continue gently squeezing/unsqueezing your fingers into those points then the spasmodic reflexes build up and up getting ever more ticklish for the recipient. Try to be very patient with your tickling and let it build and build. What’s the rush? Nowadays i always prep the people pinning him down to be patient too so they all know that this will take some time and they need to hold him completely immobilized throughout so you get to maintain continuous tickling.

 

[aberdeen]

You aren't being annoying at all! It's nice to hear your perspective and your passion for it is energizing 🙂

For me, it would be going beyond what the person can take, reaching that point of complete emotional surrender where you can tell the lee is just as surprised as you are at their actions, sounds, and attempted words. Their will is broken, and they'd do anything to make it stop. The evolved logical human brain melts away and you're left with a hypersensitive primal body pulling as hard as it can against its unforgiving bonds. When the air is palpable with desperation, you know you're there! I love most forms of tickling, but this is one of my favorites. That's why when I'm leeing, I prefer to go CNC. Otherwise, if I have a safe word, I'll use it long before I get to this point.

So correct on these characteristics! The emotional surrender and surprise about their responses is one thing but another factor is that even if the subject knows they are extremely ticklish, they have NO idea how intense it is going to be (unless they are one of the true tickle masochists who WANT/CRAVE the absolute loss of control and feeling of total insanity...And I know those personalities are out there (more often that even we in the T community realize). I converse regularly with a couple ppl that are exactly that maso - mindset! But for even a person who KNOWS they are ticklish,,....They can't comprehend the depths of ticklish insanity the Ler can make them with relentless and thorough concentration on their hot spots and reactions....
And at some point they WILL do /say / promise ANYTHING to make it stop! And they will be shocked / surprised at the true depth of their ticklishness!
AND another thing to remember is that a Ler can do all this without a shred of 'meanness' ....Its simply a temporary albeit extremely intense episode of power exchange in which one person get to be in total control of the others body and mind....both by the physical methods of tickling BUT just as important are the mind games...all of them we talk about ...but another aspect as you mentioned Wicked Touch is when the Lee is so frantic and desperate for the hyper stimulation to stop! When it doesn't there is an entire new level of frenzied hysteria that occurs bec of the realization of their lack of control!
And you can't experience that if a SW can give you an out! Any of us would take the SW every time! And thats where you need not a 'mean' LER to keep going without mercy..but one who can read your psyche and knows when to stop ....working w/o a SW or safety net is not for everyone...but for those who do...both as the Ler AND the Lee....its a very exquisite experience ... the masochistic Lee"s I know personally enjoy their episodes of insanity fairly regularly, and if they didnt absolutely LOVE it , they wouldn't keep returning to their Ler!

 

[aberdeen]

These two quotes from a blog by a poster with screen name Meg seem to be describing something like profound tickling:

Yes sir! This is a great description of profound tickling!!!! and none of it sounds 'mean' ...Its very thorough and extremely efficient in eliciting the highest levels of ticklishness!
Thanks for that input!

 

[natscott6282]

Honestly I find this part of you really interesting. I've never come across someone into this enough to start thinking philosophically about it. You're like a tickle scientist. You wanna know all there is to know about tickling and that's a really exciting idea. I kind of have an obsession with severe tickling too. It's the opposite for me though because I'm a lee and I feel a bit shy talking about it, but reading your threads really scratches an itch lol. I wanna participate more in your discussions but sometimes I feel like this is above my level lol. I don't have much experience so I don't feel I'd have much to contribute, but I really enjoy reading your threads. You're really descriptive and it sometimes makes me shiver lol. To me, at least, you'll never be annoying and I'll always look forward to your next new thread!

awwwww omg thx soooo much for saying that as deep down i know im not a good writer but i do wanna share my own actual experiences and hear other ppls experiences and thoughts on this topic

plus ye i am into scientifically being able to tickle a person to the very core of their being and YOU I AM DEFINITELY NOT above your level , u actually seem like the kinda person who is good to talk with and i appreciate u everyone should

thx

 

[sensitivesara02]

To me “tickled at maximum levels”, isn’t just a “cant take anymore”, but a total annihilation of the mind, body. In a true tickle session, laughter isn’t joy, its a bioalarm, when tickled to the max is when you thrash, make squeals/screams you never knew you were capable of. Profound tickling isn’t just something endured, it’s surrendered to.

 

[natscott6282]

bioalarm

😱

Profound tickling isn’t just something endured, it’s surrendered to.

imho it’s not just surrender to, it’s put into you

 

[sensitivesara02]

😱


imho it’s not just surrender to, it’s put into you

Completely agree, I think thats what I meant to say, might've mistyped lol. Also, why the shock?

 

[natscott6282]

Completely agree, I think thats what I meant to say, might've mistyped lol. Also, why the shock?

the word bioalarm like the persons entire being is in meltdown

 

[Cloudbusting]

Don't apologize. Keep questioning and exploring! That's why this Forum exists!


For me, "profound tickling" is not just being pushed to my limits, but being tickled well. There are many 'lers who are too rough/not aware of their own strengths. It's the one who just have that natural "it" for tickling that can easily break me down.

 

[kurchatovium]

Tickling is complicated. It involves different things. There is a Sadistic side to it that gives it an edge, that adds spice to it. There is a Sexy side, where many become aroused whether they are the ler or the lee. Then there is a Silly side that gives it a sort of playfulness and a level of safety. So the true nature of it varies from ler to ler and lee to lee. That what makes finding a match so hard. It kind of allows one to be evil and naughty without killing or hurting someone at its most basic level. Just my two cents though.

 

[sman9000]

To me “tickled at maximum levels”, isn’t just a “cant take anymore”, but a total annihilation of the mind, body. In a true tickle session, laughter isn’t joy, its a bioalarm, when tickled to the max is when you thrash, make squeals/screams you never knew you were capable of. Profound tickling isn’t just something endured, it’s surrendered to.

That's incredible!

 

[Bellylaughs]

I am having /rabid/ leemood rn so ATM I'd say give me the first one and the peeps that prefer a gentler approach take the rest. I want to be jelly.