Why can producers pay to tickle women but it's frowned upon when everday guys do it?

[devioustickler]

So I have been contemplating on making this thread but figured what the hell. FIRST and FOREMOST, this is NOT knocking producers... You guys and women do an amazing service providing tickle clips, pictures, etc to all of us everyday people with love for tickling. That being said...

Why is it that some people in the tickle community think it is weird for a person, I say person out of respect to male or female ler, to pay someone to tickle them? Whether the ler is male, or female, or the lee is male or female, or whether it is the lee paying the ler? Who knows the deal and arrangement of money but what I mean is, why do some people find it wrong and weird an everyday person meets and pays an escort, a model, or even an everyday person or friend to tickle them? I myself, have done that and I myself have been put down numerous times by people in the community and other people outside of the community. Yet I do not hear people blasting producers for making a business out of it. I am an everyday guy who loves to tickle women and if you tell me I have the chance to tickle a model, or escort and the only way I can do so is if I pay for it, well why not? Producers will do the same thing and make money off of it and I am doing it just for my own experience.

I guess I am asking, why do people feel there is that double standards where it is ok for producers to pay women to tickle them, make a clip and sell it and make money, which again is AWESOME AND OK..... but when an everyday guy like me, gets the chance to pay and tickle a model, or a woman, some in the tickle community frown upon it. SO any comments, opinions and thoughts are welcome.

 

[COOLCAT88]

Because producers pay people money to tickle them?

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[devioustickler]

Because producers pay people money to tickle them?

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I guess you misunderstood... if a regular how guy pays a model to tickle them and they share that they paid someone to tickle them, some in this community finds it weird and wrong.

 

[FeatherEndeavor]

Because producers pay people money to tickle them?

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But the OP is also paying money to tickle them. In both instances money is paid to the model to tickle them so the OP's question is why is pay to tickle O.K. in one instance but not the other one?

 

[MrTicklefeet]

I think you might be over thinking this thing. First off, that initial post of yours could stand to be edited down a bit. Second, I've never encountered any double standard of the sort, so I'm curious where you came across this perception.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

Tickle fetish people probably wouldn't have a problem with anyone paying a person for a non-filmed tickle session, and a normie probably would think paying a woman to get video of her being tickled is much weirder than paying a prostitute for kinky sex.

 

[devioustickler]

I think you might be over thinking this thing. First off, that initial post of yours could stand to be edited down a bit. Second, I've never encountered any double standard of the sort, so I'm curious where you came across this perception.

Well that is YOUR experience... My experience with engaging in women on here has been just that. Also, with a few other guys I have chatted with over the years have experienced the same thing. I am not saying this happens to everyone, but it has happened to me on numerous occasions since I have been a part of this forum where I told a woman I met a model, escort or a craiglist ad and paid to tickle that woman and the person from the TMF immediately put me in a "you are weird, that is weird" category.

Let us also not forget and be naïve, there are many women who do LOVE to be tickled and to tickle but see it as a golden opportunity to make extra money if they charge people to let them tickle them or be tickled by them. That is clearly on this site.

 

[devioustickler]

Tickle fetish people probably wouldn't have a problem with anyone paying a person for a non-filmed tickle session, and a normie probably would think paying a woman to get video of her being tickled is much weirder than paying a prostitute for kinky sex.

WHats funny is I talk about this to many of my regular female friends, some find this weird and others find it fascinating but I always tell them, having sex with a woman is pretty easy, but trying to tickle a woman for fun where its like a session is quite hard and they all say they can see that.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

WHats funny is I talk about this to many of my regular female friends, some find this weird and others find it fascinating but I always tell them, having sex with a woman is pretty easy, but trying to tickle a woman for fun where its like a session is quite hard and they all say they can see that.

It's a fetish. By definition it's going to be something a majority of people won't be into. Keep at it, you'll find success.

 

[devioustickler]

It's a fetish. By definition it's going to be something a majority of people won't be into. Keep at it, you'll find success.

Haha true true and I do have success.. haha I just haven't found success on here sadly, in my region. Majority of women I dated were down with the tickle fetish cuz they knew it made me happy... but they just weren't ticklish, hardly ticklish if that.

 

[Bradhadair]

I personally wouldn't judge. You do what works for you.

 

[SoleMates]

Well, barring the segment of this community that likes to give people shit just for existing...

I think that the reason less people think the producer is weird is because, hey; it's a business. There's some modicum of professionalism involved, and even though it's fetish work and in most cases tickling producers have the fetish themselves (seriously why else would we bother to do this?), it's still a gig. We're not paying a model to get our rocks off; we're paying her to create a product. Even if that product is fun to make, it's still product, and if the producer has even a modicum of professionalism about him, he's not going to be sporting a boner for the shoot.

The distaste, I imagine, comes from people who assume you're too pathetic to get a woman (or man) without paying them. The logic goes, "if you weren't a loser, you'd be able to pick someone up at a bar like a normal person".

That stigma, naturally, doesn't fall on a producer because again, they're making a product and models are expected to be compensated for their participation, same as the producer.

Now, all of that said, sometimes we do get shit from a small, but vocal, group of people who insist that we're just hiding our rocks off-getting behind the veneer of a shoot, and that we're no better than you guys. They make bitchy comments about "ugly, creepy 'lers gobbling on toes" whenever the opportunity presents itself.

So yeah.

 

[duderino84]

I don't really have to worry considering my friends think it's either weird or funny.

Anyways. It's "encouraged" because a producer is not in "the business" "for their pleasure",but because it's them trying to indirectly pleasure you, and you trying to imitate that places you at tree center of the crux of the matter.

And when I say this, I mean the smaller producer groups that do tickling because it's "on the list" and they need to be diverse to eventually choose their market.

 

[ImNotDave]

I think this explains it fairly well:

 

[Bohemianne]

I think this explains it fairly well:
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^ LOL.

 

[Park CollegeO]

Your comments make it seem like you care more about what people think and that you do what you do to get positive remarks from other people. At least the tonality of your post suggests that.

If you're happy with your arrangement, just keep doing your thing

 

[devioustickler]

Your comments make it seem like you care more about what people think and that you do what you do to get positive remarks from other people. At least the tonality of your post suggests that.

If you're happy with your arrangement, just keep doing your thing

It isn't about whether I am happy or not happy or care what people think. The purpose of this thread was to express your opinion why you believe there is that double standard of producers paying models compared to everyday people paying people to tickle em.

 

[MrTicklefeet]

It isn't about whether I am happy or not happy or care what people think. The purpose of this thread was to express your opinion why you believe there is that double standard of producers paying models compared to everyday people paying people to tickle em.

You don't care, and yet you do care. Some people are just not going to react the way that you might like them to. I had a freind who was very supportive of my hobby, even though she didn't want any part of it. (Her upper body is way ticklish, I would have liked to have had her sign up.)

 

[258girl]

What I think may be the issue isn't the regular ler paying, as much as the identity of the lee. In a video, the lee is seen as a model, thus "working" and so the money is being exchanged for labor... and in some cases the producers are making money themselves, so it's simply acting as a wage. In a "regular" ler-lee experience, the lee may just be considered a lee, not a model. And so the money is being exchanged for service of an erotic variety in a private setting... and I've heard it parallelled to prostitution.
Sound familiar to anyone?

 

[Tenebrae]

I think this explains it fairly well:
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This is going straight to my "favorites" folder!!

 

[matt62]

I would guess that anybody who has a problem with paying for tickling would also have pretty much the same problem with paying for sex.

And the model-in-a-video situation, whether it involves sex in a porn studio or tickling, just surrounds the same activity in a somewhat more distanced and professional mantle and so people find it a bit easier to accept.

Not a logical position really, as both involve a financial transaction for services rendered.

Not only that, but you could argue that tickling is less invasive than sex, involving (usually) less total physical contact, so perhaps anyone with qualms about a paying scenario seeming too like prostitution should see tickling as the less extreme of the two.

 

[Myriads]

Your question echoes one that has been asked in the sex industry for a long time.

What is the difference between a prostitute and a pornographer?

The first of course is paid in exchange for the use of their body. The second pays other people to have sex/be sexual and records it.

Why is one legal, and the other illegal?

The simple answer is that the creation of media is protected under the law. It’s a form of free speech. Except in those special cases where adult material is indeed legal deemed pornography (a very strict legal term btw) the right to express ones artistic opinion allows things to be made. Our prostitute is not allowed to sell their body for all sorts of historical reasons, and has no such protection.

In general society that stigma of legal and not legal carries over to the opinions held. People see those who buy sex more harshly then those who make porn (What a coincidence that those who would never pay for sex also tend to be cool with buying the occasional porn) thus we see the duel standard the OP speaks to.

Myriads

 

[mabus]

Basically, opposition against prostitution is an "old biddy" law.

Angry old biddies who sit there and scold everyone don't want their man going get real sex, men who are so desperate for a good lay they'd pay for it,
and super duper religious folk along the same lines who hate sex. (Except when THEY do it, then it's holy and blessed. When other people do it., "Yuck, sinful, dirty!")

But unfortunately for them..DAMMIT!,,,,,we have that thing called a "Constitution," which allows freedom of speech, which through laws, came to mean protection for creating
media with folks with no clothes on. That's why so many older porn movies needed all those stupid plots, so it'd be considered "art" even though everyone who watched them
just fast forwarded to the sex scenes.

Everybody wanted to see folks having sex, even the super duper Christians who just hid there's better, but they also had to contend with the judgmental religious folks
who would go crazy at them if they found out they enjoyed sex.

Still to this day getting prostitution made legal is a tough mountain to climb, and most politicians don't want to touch that, except the Libertarians.

Prostitution also gets complicated because it could expose the reality that one married partner is just bad in bed, is a crappy person, is boring, what have you.
People vote against it, because they don't want that reality/possibility out there, they want to think that they're great!
Then there are the more basic reasons - possibility of diseases, the "pimps" usually treat the poor women like crap, there are many times drugs involved also, which
is illegal for now, etc.

I'm someone who'd never go see a prostitute, but wouldn't look down on anyone who did because "Hey, you got horny and went bought some sex, big deal! I buy tickling video
clips, how could I possibly judge YOU?!"

 

[Jk1974]

There is no difference!!... other than producers make it public.. Other people keep it private.. So guessing if we keep it private it's creepy.. I have a great collection private.. Other people put it on clips for sale Exedra Exedra less creepy.. I get your question.. I understand.. Keep doing what you're doing.. Don't get creepy.. Don't get strange.. Help people pay their rent.. Keep a roof over their head.. And laugh all the way to the bank JK1974

 

[Jk1974]

P.s. I pay more than 150 per hour.. A quick little clip.. I'll pay you three hundred bucks.. I will pop your shoes off.. Take all the s*** out of your feet.. Maybe hit the ribs.. Armpits.. You are fully clothed.. And your boyfriend.. Husband.. Fiance can be present.. Quick fast easy.. And again laugh all the way to the bank JK1974