Why don't m/f videos have young, fit guys in them?

[Jagermeistered]

I think we are missing the capital aspect. It goes to show that "old, ugly, creepy" dudes have all the capital(wealth).

I am kidding people!

If you want a "good looking" dude(in your eyes), request/custom that! When I purchase or request(or ask for a custom): the "good looking" chicks infiltrate my media player...

 

[Jagermeistered]

If the vid producers can make more using hot guys in their m/f vids I expect they will. They will do whatever rings the cash register.

Maybe they do not have cash(even after income) to buy a cash register, and the distribution company(cash register) - takes half their rings in.

 

[the tickleshow]

What a great thread! lol
I've always kept my face out of the videos in order to keep my day job (I've worked for 2 Fortune 200 companies over the past 19 years) and because I always figured the video was about the tickling and the person being tickled. I do try to keep myself in reasonable shape, since my arms, hands, etc are visible, and this is a visual medium, so I owe that much to the viewer, but I suppose beauty is truly in the eye of the beholder.

 

[stockytickler]

Tickleshow, you have an amazing body. And indeed, the lee and her/his reactions are a big part of the draw for me. But my engine gets a good revv out of watching the ler's face and how much he's getting into it, too. And if he's taunting the lee verbally as well (not so much that it's distracting, but that it's happening) ... grrrr. Just my opinion, of course. Cheers, man

 

[mabus]

I can't speak for everyone but I'd suggest it's because hiring a buff male model costs the same amount as hiring an additional female model, and whilst a few people may have an interest in seeing a male 'ler with great abs and a tight backside, most people (though clearly not all) don't seem to care less about that...hence it would be a waste of money.

I say this because I have never had a single request for a hot male model in my clips - I'm not suggesting that no one would buy the clips, just that there's nothing to indicate any real demand. In reality, female tickling clip consumers currently represent a tiny part of the market - if there were more females queuing up to buy clips with male models, then there would be more producers catering to that need.

In any case, there are some sites that seem to focus on this aspect and may be worth checking out if ripped male 'lees are your thing:
http://www.ticklingbabes.com/home.html

Your videos are different, and popular, Turtleboy, because you're kind of not what he's talking about, .....which is a compliment by the way!
You don't talk, thus, no creepy voice.
You stay out of the way, and we usually only see your hands or arms, thus, body type doesn't matter.
You don't wear a Scream mask, thus, no creepy mask!

Some of these guys are falling all over the models, you see more guy in mask than model sometimes!

The answer is: ....They can do whatever the hell they want, because they're making the videos, and probably don't really care that much what people think.
I mean, I've seen people make the same complaints...for literally years, ....and the producers keep repeating the same video. At some point you just accept that
they ain't changing their style.

For example, scores of people complain about a ball gag.....and the producer's like, "And of course, the "trusty" ball gag!" "And as always, the old ball gag!"
At some point, you just have to give up and stop complaining, because that damn ball gag ain't going anywhere. It's his ball gag fetish, he's making the videos....it's saying.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

I'm not asking why don't all m/f videos use alpha male models (I think someof you are responding like I genuinely don't know why producers aren't paying 2 models to make a video where 95% of the viewers just want to see the girl, I know why), I'm asking why you hardly ever see it at all.

 

[sclubtickle]

I'm not asking why don't all m/f videos use alpha male models (I think someof you are responding like I genuinely don't know why producers aren't paying 2 models to make a video where 95% of the viewers just want to see the girl, I know why), I'm asking why you hardly ever see it at all.

I think you've almost answered your own question - is targeting that 5% worth the expense of a male model? I guess the answer is no. Still, turtleboy knows I'm always available and wouldn't charge a penny

 

[2ltamerica]

I'm gonna guess it's a matter of supply and demand for the most part

 

[Phineas]

It never fails to amaze me that, were anyone here to criticize the physical appearance of a woman in a video, we'd see a shitstorm of fury over how shallow and mean they are... but no one thinks twice about calling the men who appear on camera creepy, old, ugly, or fat - especially when a lot of them are active members of this community, and thus posting such comments is the equivalent of insulting them directly to their faces.

 

[voided9]

Young, fit guys are attractive, but I guess there just isn't too much of a demand for it. Though when I'm watching the F/M or M/M clips, it's the laughter and reactions that arouse me more than the 'lee himself. Same with female 'lees though, it's not always her physical attributes as it is her ticklishness. BUT everyone has their own preference and you know what? If someone ONLY want to see thin, super-model-hot girls in videos, that's their right and it doesn't make them shallow. If you only want to see fit, young guys in your vids, same thing - it's a preference and it's nobody else's business.

Though I should add, I'm only talking about videos here, not dating and relationships. That's an entirely different topic. If someone can't masturbate to a video because the 'lee is overweight or unattractive to them, that's just the way it is, doesn't make them a bad person.

 

[rhiannon]

It never fails to amaze me that, were anyone here to criticize the physical appearance of a woman in a video, we'd see a shitstorm of fury over how shallow and mean they are... but no one thinks twice about calling the men who appear on camera creepy, old, ugly, or fat - especially when a lot of them are active members of this community, and thus posting such comments is the equivalent of insulting them directly to their faces.

Seriously, Phineas....if in those clips the producers used models who were looking comparably attractive than most (not all, but most!) of the guys in these clips, nobody would even buy them! And that's what's being critizised here!

 

[Sandisk444]

Though I should add, I'm only talking about videos here, not dating and relationships. That's an entirely different topic. If someone can't masturbate to a video because the 'lee is overweight or unattractive to them, that's just the way it is, doesn't make them a bad person.

I agree with you, wanting to see that doesn't make you a bad person. But openly expressing them as "fat, old, ugly, monsters" is a little shallow. Chances are they don't care because they're making money and tickling beautiful girls but why is there an invisible line drawn here? If this was specifically directed at someone there would be this whole moral argument about them being human beings and it's wrong to say things like that but there isn't one here.

And then people wonder why not everyone has pictures of themselves on here.

 

[stockytickler]

Never mind the fact that when it comes to overpowering someone and tickling them into hysterics, there are distinct advantages to being 350# of strong, stocky musclechub.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

It never fails to amaze me that, were anyone here to criticize the physical appearance of a woman in a video, we'd see a shitstorm of fury over how shallow and mean they are... but no one thinks twice about calling the men who appear on camera creepy, old, ugly, or fat - especially when a lot of them are active members of this community, and thus posting such comments is the equivalent of insulting them directly to their faces.

I agree with you, wanting to see that doesn't make you a bad person. But openly expressing them as "fat, old, ugly, monsters" is a little shallow. Chances are they don't care because they're making money and tickling beautiful girls but why is there an invisible line drawn here? If this was specifically directed at someone there would be this whole moral argument about them being human beings and it's wrong to say things like that but there isn't one here.

And then people wonder why not everyone has pictures of themselves on here.

Because the videos are porn, porn is a product, and products could use some variety. I get not every man is a chizzled alpha, I get sometimes people just aren't going to put in the effort to do what they think people won't pay for, but it sure would be pretty rad to see it as an option every now and then.

 

[omnifeller]

This phenomenon is not unique to tickle videos. You see it across mainstream media, too. It sells.

 

[Sandisk444]

Because the videos are porn, porn is a product, and products could use some variety. I get not every man is a chizzled alpha, I get sometimes people just aren't going to put in the effort to do what they think people won't pay for, but it sure would be pretty rad to see it as an option every now and then.

I'm not arguing you on that point, if people want to see that then by all means they should be able to get it. The problem I have is the description of the ticklers as being fat/ugly monsters.

 

[bftk2005]

Because they are marketed towards men who want to see women tickled, so its "more" about the lee than the ler.

 

[Phineas]

Seriously, Phineas....if in those clips the producers used models who were looking comparably attractive than most (not all, but most!) of the guys in these clips, nobody would even buy them! And that's what's being critizised here!

I don't find every model in every video preview I see attractive, but I don't come here and say "that whale doesn't belong on camera".

 

[SoleSearcher]

Hey everybody! Just wanted to chime in for a sec here. In my experience as a producer, customers (as a majority) never really wanted to see m/f videos with an attractive, fit guy in them. I am a gym freak and take good care of myself, yet, the videos where I was the 'ler/worshiper always sold FAR less than when I was able to pull together the funds for a f/f scene. Of course there are exceptions, but I'm just telling you why I had to start doing more "behind the camera" work in my productions. I always thought it may be because the customer wants to be able to imagine himself as the 'ler, so, unless said customer is in as good or better shape as the 'ler in the video, their fantasy may be ruined? I really don't know. Totally just a thought? All I know is that if I had all the right answers I'd still be producing. LOL!

 

[c7_assassin]

I read somewhere that when anyone, male or female, sees a beautiful woman, it lights up the centre of their brain that handles attraction. When straight women see a hot guy, same deal. But when heterosexual men see a bigger, fitter male, it lights up the part of the brain that responds to threats.

So, if producers hired hotter men, it might kill all our boners.

 

[Jagermeistered]

I read somewhere that when anyone, male or female, sees a beautiful woman, it lights up the centre of their brain that handles attraction. When straight women see a hot guy, same deal. But when heterosexual men see a bigger, fitter male, it lights up the part of the brain that responds to threats.

So, if producers hired hotter men, it might kill all our boners.

This explains my female-on-female infatuation perfectly(when it comes to porn). Why do I want to see a guy with a dick, since I am not into dudes; destroy my orgasmic elation? If the guy is hot, then it is pure frustration("That asshole one-uped me again!"). If it is a ugly guy("What did he put in her drink? That fucking asshole!): Can I buy it at the pharmacy? I am kidding folks!

 

[GQguy]

I'd prefer better looking fit guys in my tickle videos actually. When I tickle a woman in my bedroom there's a mutual attraction, it's foreplay and flirting. There are some videos where you do see that the tickler and the ticklee have some chemistry and when the video is over you have to wonder....did they hook up? When the guy....isn't attractive and there is no chemistry it seems forced, unlike any tickling that I'll do or even fantasize about.

I prefer bigger guys that can really dominate their ticklee. The more physical restraint the better and the more intimate it seems. But that's just me.

I actually dig some F/F. My preference is when the tickler has some lesbian tendencies where it appears as though she really is aroused by dominating another female. If she has a stronger physical preference, perfect! I really enjoyed silver Cherry's amazon Amanda series. Great actress.

 

[jocksocks]

Because no one has asked me.

haha, StevePerry4Ever, we're talking about young fit guys, not bloated, old, fat ugly guys. So you don't qualify

 

[meangry]

Isn't the reason because most dudes buying want to fantasize that it's them doing the tickling?

Like, for most guys, isn't a semi-attractive dude not only going to pull them out of their fantasy, but also going to have some weird psychological resentment because he's attractive and the viewer isn't?

 

[C.A.B.]

Really feeling the love here...perhaps because it's Valentine's day? Us old/fat/gross/creepy/unfavourably-bestowed monsters shouldn't expect anything more of course!

BEGONE old/fat/gross/creepy/unfavourably-bestowed monsters, you're harshing the gals' Hitachi buzz!