Why Women Dominate the TMF

[Babyshambles]

Kitty thinks you start threads to make trouble for some reason. This thread makes no sense to me at all. You seem filled with hate. You need to get tickled or something.

This is a challenge for everyone who thinks that THIS thread is filled with hate. Prove it and I will send you $100 no questions asked. That is a guarantee. (based on fixed exchange rate of £1 = $1.8)

I am filled with curiosity for the world around me - that is why I question these things. I am certainly not filled with hate.

But women seem to think that I am on this forum. Interesting.

 

[innocentsexcat]

I don't know you and I don't want you to prove a thing to me. Kitty doesn't care that much. If you aren't filled with hate, good, Kitty is glad. Hate is evil.

 

[Babyshambles]

I don't know you and I don't want you to prove a thing to me. Kitty doesn't care that much. If you aren't filled with hate, good, Kitty is glad. Hate is evil.

Ah. Now I didn't say that I wanted to prove anything to you. But I have offered an incentive for someone to prove that this thread is hate filled. It is open to everyone. 🙂

 

[Chaneda]

Agreed

I'd love to hear the definition of "fuck all." You're getting absolutely fuck all from the women at TMF. What is it you WANT exactly? Be specific, so the girls can see.

You want a random "hot" girl to tie up and tickle?

You want a regular tickle buddy?

You want a ticklish woman to be in a LTR with?

I've been on the boards for awhile and have met lots of folks IP, some for just play, some for general bonhomie and one or two for an attempt at something longer, romantic and substantial. Truth is, I've given plenty of guys the opportunity to make me feel like more than a ticklish blow up doll. Sadly, not that many rise to the challenge.

I think there's a problem with using this site for potential dating partners. Guys have said it over and over again - "this is a tickling forum, of course we're going to ask about tickling." Huh. Well if you say so, but if I were going to offer one word of advice to the guys looking for a LTR here, I'd advise that you leave the tickling thing on the shelf for awhile and look for a woman who interests you in other ways. Then pursue things based on that.

The wonderful thing about this site is that you can be SURE that your potential mate is into tickling. For pete's sake, take some time to establish rapport and stop making nasty comments about the women here.

I have to agree completely with lk70 on this. One of the differences between most men and women on this forum is that a large percentage of men behave in a way where the only thing that matters to them seems to be tickling, not the person they play with. Women TEND to be more well rounded creatures because they are not as sexually driven as men...that's just an observed natural sexual fact. I believe that a woman knows that tickling cannot keep a couple together and happy for any significant length of time.

For a long term relationship to work here both people must realize that tickling is not the method or the goal...in fact, tickling is not important at all in the equation for a relationship to work. What does work? Taking the time to know one another as PEOPLE, with interests in the arts, music, sciences, literature, adventure, sports, fine cuisine, travel, goals, dreams, fears, passions, family...and everything else that is an integral part of all individuals.

If a guy is just looking for a play partner, then the Vanilla equivalent to that, in my opinion, is the same as looking for a prostitute for sex...but for free. There is no real exchange of emotion or any need for the two to share any significant information or to make an ATTEMPT to know each other as complex citizens with a life that has a LOT MORE than just tickling in it. Heck, how much time per day do you dedicate to your fixation? Not much...you are probably working, playing sports, playing an instrument, cooking, doing laundry, traveling for your business, hanging out with your vanilla friends and family...and guess what? All of that is wonderful! If you want to make something REAL with someone on the forum you need to INCORPORATE all of that. How I look at it, the real person and individual you meet from this forum is the Delicious Chocolate covered sundae and tickling is only that little stem on the cherry they put on top. That's it. Tickling is NOT and SHOULD NOT be the whole ball of ice cream...a relationship built solely on tickling is the same thing as marrying someone just because they are good in bed. By the time you two are old and gray, 60, 70, or even 80 years old, all of that will have changed...what WILL be left are the memories that were formed, and no one wants to be on their death bed realizing that the only thing important that one did with their partner was tickle play...how lame is that?

I want to be able to look back and say, "Wow...here's this woman who loved me for who I am and who could accept my flaws...just like I loved her for all of her, her mind, body, and spirit, AND her flaws and what not. Thank you." Period. Any mention of tickling in there is not necessary at all. Tickling can be great fun, but it can not build or carry the bridge of love for very long.

In other words, less tickle talk (especially at first) and more conversations that ask, "Hi, how was your day?" and other lines that start as questions and eventually just flow. There is no awkwardness in it. The person you are trying to talk to will be as nervous to talk to you as you are to them. And they will appreciate if you stave off the tickle talk for a bit or a while because they will feel that you want to truly understand them and get to know them, and not even as a potential partner, but possibly just as a good friend.

A lot of the people I talk to on the forum I probably tickle talk only 10% of the time and spend the rest of the 90% having more rewarding and fulfilling conversations about life. And I am a happier, more loving and LOVED person for it.

Just my two cents...

🙂

- Chaneda

 

[RavenMoon]

Women dominate because they are here for different
reason's..Men are here to find a woman to tickle.
Women are here to socialize and belong to a group.
Two different lines of thought....

Very true...

I blog daily on a BDSM site mentoring newbies there and you will find that the top bloggers as well as the majority of the bloggers are female. It goes directly back to the primal needs (in general) of the two sexes. Females nurtured and networked with others in the group. Men competed with each other for the best or most mates (Yes, this is put very simple, but only to illustrate the point. We will not get into a discussion about that!!!) On most of the alternative sites, it is common that the men view and search while the women interact more.

Now, in regards to something else just brought up... No, this thread is not filled with hate. An idea was shared and explored intelligently. There was some light banter tossed in as well. I just don't see where the idea of hate in this thread came from and would strongly suggest people take a moment and think before they post an inciting accusation like that.

 

[tickleboynyc]

i tried to read that post but i just couldn't. if women dominate the TMF...all the better for me!! 😀

 

[Babyshambles]

Very true...

I blog daily on a BDSM site mentoring newbies there and you will find that the top bloggers as well as the majority of the bloggers are female. It goes directly back to the primal needs (in general) of the two sexes. Females nurtured and networked with others in the group. Men competed with each other for the best or most mates (Yes, this is put very simple, but only to illustrate the point. We will not get into a discussion about that!!!) On most of the alternative sites, it is common that the men view and search while the women interact more.

Now, in regards to something else just brought up... No, this thread is not filled with hate. An idea was shared and explored intelligently. There was some light banter tossed in as well. I just don't see where the idea of hate in this thread came from and would strongly suggest people take a moment and think before they post an inciting accusation like that.

Very true Raven. I occasinally travel first class with business and I occasionally get the opportunity to listen in to conversations between men and women or men and men, or women and women.

Men are very business like. How are we going to win that deal? How are we going to resolve that problem? They are also social in terms of, How are things with you? Did you watch teh football? Going aywhere nice on holiday? What car are you driving etc.

With women, it's interesting. I only ever hear ONE type of conversation.

How do you think this person is doing? I think this person is very good. I think this person is not very good. I like this person. I don't think this person is getting to grips with the task. I think this person has picked up the task very quickly.

and then

Hair, beauty, children, celebrity conversation

Men are very task-orientated in my view. Women are very relationship based.

I must confess that women's conversations bores the pants off me.

 

[innocentsexcat]

Kitty sighs. I only mention hate because of different rather trouble stirring threads he has started, Kitty never accused him of actual hate. Said he might be filled with hate, then he explained and all was better. I hope that clarifies the hate issue in this thread.

 

[Babyshambles]

Kitty sighs. I only mention hate because of different rather trouble stirring threads he has started, Kitty never accused him of actual hate. Said he might be filled with hate, then he explained and all was better. I hope that clarifies the hate issue in this thread.

Yes. Leave kitty alone. I'm inexplicably attracted to the feline connection.

 

[RavenMoon]

Very true Raven. I occasinally travel first class with business and I occasionally get the opportunity to listen in to conversations between men and women or men and men, or women and women.

Men are very business like. How are we going to win that deal? How are we going to resolve that problem? They are also social in terms of, How are things with you? Did you watch teh football? Going aywhere nice on holiday? What car are you driving etc.

With women, it's interesting. I only ever hear ONE type of conversation.

How do you think this person is doing? I think this person is very good. I think this person is not very good. I like this person. I don't think this person is getting to grips with the task. I think this person has picked up the task very quickly.

and then

Hair, beauty, children, celebrity conversation

Men are very task-orientated in my view. Women are very relationship based.

I must confess that women's conversations bores the pants off me.

LOL! I must confess that generalized example of female conversations bores me as well. Thank goodness not all of us are like that...

But on the flip, the generalized male conversation of sports and cars is equally superficial and can be just as boring to the average female. (Luckily both are subject I enjoy anyhow so the boredrum is rare)

We are not the same. And it is a very good thing we are not...

 

[TickleGoddess06]

With women, it's interesting. I only ever hear ONE type of conversation.

How do you think this person is doing? I think this person is very good. I think this person is not very good. I like this person. I don't think this person is getting to grips with the task. I think this person has picked up the task very quickly.

and then

Hair, beauty, children, celebrity conversation

Men are very task-orientated in my view. Women are very relationship based.

I must confess that women's conversations bores the pants off me.

Honestly, I tried to stay out of this thread but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. If you can really say that, that's what all women sound like, then buddy you need a woman and not one you gathered from the internet, a real woman.

I don't know one woman that discusses Hair, beauty or celebrity conversation. I definitely don't know one who's coversation (based on what you said) is truly relationship based. I just see another guy, angry because some woman wouldn't give him attention, so now he must attack all women. Congratulations, you've made jackass of the week.

 

[Babyshambles]

Honestly, I tried to stay out of this thread but that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard in my life. If you can really say that, that's what all women sound like, then buddy you need a woman and not one you gathered from the internet, a real woman.

I don't know one woman that discusses Hair, beauty or celebrity conversation. I definitely don't know one who's coversation (based on what you said) is truly relationship based. I just see another guy, angry because some woman wouldn't give him attention, so now he must attack all women. Congratulations, you've made jackass of the week.

Ok. At least this jackass isn't flaming someone.

I said it's the conversation I always hear between professional women in a business context (i.e. travelling business class early in the morning to make a meeting). I have no way said that all women talk about is the above mentioned topics.

 

[lk70]

At no point have I talked about wanting a LTR, a hot-girl to tie up and tickle or other such nonsense. I barely even talk about tickling here. Not really.

As I said half-jokingly once, I come here for the Politics and Religion forum only. All this tickling stuff is a distraction

But you also said

Now the question is. Are you a penny man or are you getting absolutely fuck all from the women at the TMF?

I''m definitely the latter and look at all you penny men with envious greed. I will petition the treasury to issue half penny denominations and then the fight is back on Mothers....

So I'm still wondering what you meant by "fuck all" if you're not talking about a LTR or play partner. Who are you looking at with greed and why?

It's all well and good to say you started this as an intellectual exercise but it doesn't ring true, that's all.

 

[Babyshambles]

But you also said


So I'm still wondering what you meant by "fuck all" if you're not talking about a LTR or play partner. Who are you looking at with greed and why?

It's all well and good to say you started this as an intellectual exercise but it doesn't ring true, that's all.

It's an intellectual exercise, taken only half-seriously, with a bit of light banter thrown in for good measure

 

[Redmage]

Shambles, if you want it here's a bit of possible insight into why you're having such a rocky time on this thread.

First, you're describing women collectively in very shallow terms. I know you're going to say that you aren't doing that, and you may think you aren't. But whether you intend it or not, that's how you're coming across. Women naturally resent being labeled that way.

Second, your whole tone is quite self-centered. You talk about how much you envy the lucky guys who get whatever it is you want from women but aren't getting. That's just not going to win you any friends, especially when you seem to feel that things are this way either because some guys just get all the breaks or because women are so vain and superficial, or both.

Take it as you please, that's just what I see you doing.

 

[Umojar]

Women aren't dominating the place. I dunno what the hell these figures are all about, but I don't see a point. There's nothing intellectual that I can see here, only a skewed perspective.

 

[LindyHopper]

And the worst part about all this and why women have it worse than men... is because their bodies are so much more sensitive and prone to feeling sexual pleasure than a man's!!

Dammit! That must be my problem!

There is a big difference when a woman uses her intellect to the max than simply lifting her skirt and showing her "jewels"...

If a woman uses the first armory, men will fight her to death, but in one lift of a skirt and showing the beautiful thing she's got in there, the man is left with no opponent but himself...In *some* realities, many women had used the latter armory and won battles without bloodshed .😱 😀

That's interesting. Do you think it's preferable for women to rely on her armory of jewels? I have to say that though my second armory has it's time and place, I much prefer to rely on my first.

There are some of us here that are serious posters and not putting our breasts, feet ,asses etc. out there just to attract attention. I don't have a PM box full of messages...I am a woman.

That's a really, really good point. Some of us prefer to present ourselves as people, not as women. And the majority of men on the TMF simply don't respond to that, continuing to shower a few highly-visible, sexualized images with attention, while ignoring those of us who are quieter about our gender. I consider this to be an advantage, because it means most of the men who contact me are responding to something I've posted, and are interested in what's going on in my head.

I am looking to have common ground with the men and women here. If I can meet up with some of you....terrific. But the attention the men and women get here is based on what THEY put out .....nothing more....and it is equal to both sexes.

My bottom line point is...just because I am a women doesn't mean I get more attention......or that I have some advantage here over the men just based on the fact that I am a woman.

I think it's true that both men and women reap the attention they sow for themselves. However, I do have a sense that women are automatically more sympathetic to their TMF audience, consisting of both men and women. Women can be unforgiving of male trespasses, and men, perhaps picking up on a sense of competition, tend to be less supportive of each other in times of strife.

Truth is, I've given plenty of guys the opportunity to make me feel like more than a ticklish blow up doll. Sadly, not that many rise to the challenge.

I'd say that's the heart of the problem right there. Though from my point of view, it isn't a problem. Women have the advantage of being a valued commodity, so we don't have to settle for mediocre encounters. I think we all develop our ways of identifying the men (and women) who are most likely to be worth our time.

If any man here wants to be such a one, there's plenty of sound advice on this thread. And if heeding it is just too damned much trouble... then maybe "fuck all" is what you deserve. 😉

 

[MrPartickler]

...However, I do have a sense that women are automatically more sympathetic to their TMF audience, consisting of both men and women. Women can be unforgiving of male trespasses, and men, perhaps picking up on a sense of competition, tend to be less supportive of each other in times of strife.

This may be a little afield of the topic, but I almost made a post along these lines in the "why women hate men" thread. lol (The thread had become so scattered that it hardly seemed worth the effort, so I stopped.) Anyway, I can see how one can get that perception since there are noticeably fewer disincentives towards outwardly railing against men. Consequently, it probably happens publicly much more often. That doesn't say anything about how bad "all guys" are or about women hating all men, or that all women are saintly princesses by default (sorry, ladies...lol), just that it's more socially acceptable to voice strongly negative opinions about men.

Back to the topic, I think women only "dominate" the TMF in the way Babyshambles has chosen to define it. He set the goals (e.g., getting random tickle encounters) and essentially said women achieve those goals more easily than men. Well, let's assume women's goals are, in general, different. If, say, they're mostly after more meaningful encounters (e.g., LTR's or platonic friendships) with folks that want the same things they do, then from their POV, they have little or no control if most guys they encounter are not like-minded.

In general, people's ideas of success here are different. I could probably say I'm 100% successful by someone else's standards or more like 5-10% by my own. This wasn't always the case, but I like to think I'm pretty selective now about who I PM, chat with, talk to, meet, and tickle--in increasing order of selectivity. After all, it often takes a lot of time, trust, effort, resources, etc. to get to that last stage and we (guys) can and should be at least as selective as women are about it. I know everyone's at different stages in their lives, but this isn't a race to me. So I choose quality over quantity in a heartbeat.

 

[jim66e]

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

What if everyone isn't motivated by greed? What if the guy in couple three deciedes he only needs £20 for his needs and the girl can have £80? What if when the lonely woman goes to couple 7 the guy decides he doesn't want to be with her even if it means not getting an extra £30. While your model may work with money and a bunch of greedy people, that is a very limited use.

Sometimes people just click on here. Not every woman is out to get as much as she can. If two people have talked for years and maybe met once or twice the girl isn't likely to one day say, "tickler22303 just offered to pay for my living expenses for a month if I let him tickle me, you better offer two or I'm never talking to you again." Maximum gain is not the goal of most people here. In fact, I would theorize that women (from what little I can understand of them) would be less likely to switch partners if a so called better deal came along, while guys often jump at anything.

 

[alchemy]

Why do women get more from theTMF than men? Here's a scientific explanation...

Women on this forum live in a fortunate set of circumstances. Whilst a man is very lucky if he finds a relationship with a woman into tickling from these boards, women find it relatively easy. Women are bombarded with multiple messages from men. Women respond to only a few of these. That is rational. Women are advanced by many men. They haven't got the time of energy to spend on every person. They have to be choosy. Women are choosy.

Now read my explanation. Note that one interpretation of this, is that the roles would be reversed and men would be hit on by lots of "pervy women" if the roles were reversed!!!



Consider this social economics experiment...

10 men
10 women

They are asked to pair off and every couple gets £100 ($200) real money. Easy, everyone can find somebody. The couples will likely split the money 50-50 so that every man and every women gets £50. So far so good.

Now, lets change things a bit.

9 men
10 women

Does this matter? It seems to be significant

Suddenly everyone pairs up, leaving a girl by herself. How horrible for her. Now, every couple still gets £100. Will each man and woman in the couple split the money 50-50 as shown below: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Lonely woman (£0)

Probably not. Lonely woman is getting nothing. Maybe she'll go to one of the guys and say, "...choose me. If you do, I'll only ask for £20, meaning you get £80. We both win!!"

So that's what happens, leaving

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

Now the new lonely women is losing out on £50!!! And she's been dumped by her guy. So now, maybe she decides that £20 is better than nothing and goes to one of the guys and tries to strike a deal and the following might happen: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£50) + Woman (£50)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

The new lonely women continue to act in this fashion until you get something like this: -

Couple 1 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 2 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 3 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 4 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 5 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 6 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 7 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 8 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
Couple 9 (£100) = Man (£80) + Woman (£20)
New Lonely woman (£0)

The new lonely women may decide that £10 is better than nothing and a new deal arises, until eventually all men get £99.99 and 9 women get 1p and 1 woman gets absolutely nothing!!!!

Interesting how just a slightly bigger number of women leads to a big advantage for men. Now consider the TMF. There is not just 10% more women. There is probably 95% more women. They are in a HUGE bargaining postion. They get a LOT more at the expense of men.

Note - in the example above I used 10% more women to get you to think. At the TMF there are actually more men than women and the difference is greater than 10%.

That probably explains the balance.

Basically, men at the TMF are like the lonely girl in the example above, willing to accept a penny rather than nothing. Two interesting points: -

EVERY MAN LOSES OUT!! - We all get just the penny
Most MEN GET NOTHING!! - Even a penny would appeal to these poor suckers

...Umm....hobbies. Looking into hobbies.

 

[notcoolzeus]

This is so true it's funny. I posted my pic in the pic section expecting maybe a response or two and three days later I am looking at an empty inbox. Sad really. I'm sure JennSendler probably has to sort through upwards of 50 messages. Okay, so I'm jealous but this really does make sense. Babyshambles posts are too awesome.

 

[Babyshambles]

Substitute money with some other form of value.

Consider,

You're a man and you've got two options for a woman - both of whom you've only just met so not had chance to develop an emotionl attachment to.

1) One woman is mildly attractive but VERY ticklish.

2) One woman is really hot but NOT ticklish.

Now let's say that these two women are fighting over you. Which do you choose. You can only have one. Let's say that you go with Woman 1.

Let's say woman two really wants you and can somehow increase the value you get from her. Let's say that you push her away and she starts laughing. Far from not being ticklish, she is actually one of the most ticklish women you've ever met. Do you go with her? Now you'll choose woman 2.

Woman 1 still wants you. What does she do? Maybe she tries to offer something else. I may not be very hot, but I am very ticklish and i'll let you tickle me HOWEVER you want, WHENEVER you want. Maybe you're tempted? Tempted enough? If not, maybe Woman 1 has to throw a few more things into the bargaining pot. Maybe she'll cook pancakes for you every day. Maybe she will be more tolerant of you.

Maybe you decide - hell, i've got these two women fighting over me. How great. I'll choose both of them.

Now woman 3. She's really fat, smelly and ugly. She is NOT ticklish. She wants you too. But you are happy enough. You tell her to "get lost".


SWITCH!!!

Now men are in the majority. The same women who were fighting over you before, now have a lot more men to choose from. And because the roles are reversed the men will be fighting over these girls and the girls get to choose. You'll struggle to get woman 2, and if you manage to get woman 1, you can be sure there'll be no pancakes.

So maybe now you start considering the attractions of woman 3. She's not so bad. She can lose weight. Maybe she has ticklish friends. Maybe she's good in bed.

Bingo.

Don't get hung up on money. It just represents value very nicely.

What if everyone isn't motivated by greed? What if the guy in couple three deciedes he only needs £20 for his needs and the girl can have £80? What if when the lonely woman goes to couple 7 the guy decides he doesn't want to be with her even if it means not getting an extra £30. While your model may work with money and a bunch of greedy people, that is a very limited use.

Sometimes people just click on here. Not every woman is out to get as much as she can. If two people have talked for years and maybe met once or twice the girl isn't likely to one day say, "tickler22303 just offered to pay for my living expenses for a month if I let him tickle me, you better offer two or I'm never talking to you again." Maximum gain is not the goal of most people here. In fact, I would theorize that women (from what little I can understand of them) would be less likely to switch partners if a so called better deal came along, while guys often jump at anything.

 

[lk70]

Don't get hung up on money. It just represents value very nicely.

Wow. What a sad sad world you live in.

 

[jim66e]

Don't get hung up on money. It just represents value very nicely.

But that still doesn't address my main point, which is what if everyone isn't going for the highest value they can. True relationships aren't something that can be traded or bought. Real people, whether friends, lovers, or tickle buddies con't constantly up the ante for maximum self benefit. You say not to get hung up on money, but its hard to come up with an example that does not in some way use it, because the underlying principle of this theory is an assumption of base human greed in all circumstances.

 

[tickles]

..OK Babyshambles,

I went back and skimmed this thread again. I think your main point is that the women here have a clear advantage in choosing potential partners because we are outnumbered and can be choosier. I agree...The part that I wish you would consider re thinking is this: ALL of the women here, even though in the minority, ARE NOT given an immense amount of attention unless we ask for it. Just because we are here doesn't mean that we are propositioned daily. If I want to fill up my PM box....I know EXACTLY what to say and what to "show" in order to get it. If I want a reputation on the forum.....I know to argue and be inflammatory.....then I will get lots of recognition. Redmage made a good point. He said that the content of your "scientific" data is not the problem...the problem is that you made an across the board assumption....about the women here, specifically. But your point is well taken....if I wanted ANY kind of attention I could get it, likely in large numbers, much easier than you could....now come here and gimme some suga...