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Y'all Know Wrasslin's Fake, Right?

Yes, it is staged, but it still takes athleticism to do what they do. Yes, it is entertainment, and it entertains me. For all of you who don't like wrestling, simply don't watch it. And do not disrespect the people who do like it. I bet if I were to take you behind the scenes and let you spar with the wrestlers, they would break all the naysayers down in nanoseconds, especially Neutron😀
 
drew70 said:
If you know it's fake, and you still support it, shame on you. You say it's entertainment, that realism isn't important. I don't believe you. If this were true of wrestling fans, the producers wouldn't bother with the "wrestlers'" workouts and the steroids. They'd just use real actors and CGI special effects to achieve the "stunts" and they'd look a lot better then some pumped up dufus stomping on the floor to create his own sound effects. If realism wasn't important to you, you wouldn't be touting the merits of scissor holds and clotheslines. So don't tell us that you know it's fake, because you obviously don't.

Yes, I enjoy Friends, Seinfeld, X-Files and other shows of fiction. Yes, I know they aren't real, but I enjoy them just the same. So what's the difference? The fact that anybody could seriously ask this question is a disturbing sign of how brain-dead our culture is becoming. The shows I mention have some thought to them. Somebody actually exercised some gray matter to come up with plots and dialogue that are funny, clever, and thought-provoking. The real TV shows have actors that possess talent. They portray people and situations with a degree of believability. The actors in Professional Wrestling are of the lowest calibre in Hollywood, even below the daytime soap operas.

It's like the producers go out of their way to make the show as slipshod and cheesy as possible, and yet loyal fans in trailor parks across America still watch in awe. I can only hope that the Darwin principles are still active in humanity.

Did you just hold up Friends as an example of intelligent writing and good acting?
 
Shem, you don't think Friends was an example of great writing and acting? It has to be to last as long as they did😀
 
i wish neutron did wrestle in the wwe. They need fresh new talent.
 
Athleticism is the key!

😀 I can imagine that it takes great athleticism to pull off correctly those technical, high-flying, or finishing maneuvers and any wrestling move. As well it takes great athleticism to take them and not get tremendously injured. Kudos to the Pro wrestling entertainers! 😀
 
Originally posted by Admiral Trouser
Well, judgeing by yuor last post Drew, they clearly aren't.

'judgeing' by 'yuor' spelling, I tend to agree. 😀

Wrestling done in CGI? With actors? Pray tell, where would you find the *money* to do such a thing? Just because such special effects are prevailent in the entertainment industry doesn't mean that they come cheap

Oh please. The industry may suffer from lack of taste, class, and social value, but it certainly doesn't suffer from lack of money. Still, I'm being told these performances are live, which makes my point about CGI graphics a mute one, I'll concede.

and I doubt that actors capable of doing proper stunts the likes of which a proffessional wrestler could pull off without breaking a sweat are cheap either.

Yeah, it would take an actor deeply steeped in "The Method" to get that foot stomp synchronized with the fake punch.

Especially when the weekly shows are an hour long, and the ppv's are thrice time that. So that whole little tirade about us fans not realising that it's fake is entirely redundant...we *know* that parts of it are entirely unreal, and we accept it with a grin and "oh well, what the hell" attitude.

What do you mean "parts of it are entirely unreal"?? The whole fiasco is a fucking charade, dude. When are you going to realize this? You're being duped! Swindled! Taken to the cleaners! If somebody sells you a car that turns out to be a lemon, are you gonna wear that idiotic grin, shrug, and say, "oh well, what the hell"??

I happen to be a philosophy student, so I'd like to think I have a *far* better grasp on what's real and what is not than you, monsiuer

Oh really? They must have since waved the spelling requirments since I went to college, "Monsieur."

and I dare say that some of those moves really, really hurt when I see them pulled off.

One more time. Read very carefully. It's fake!! The only thing that hurts is the show's credibility.

I also love it how you've turned this into some sort of class issue..."trailor-park people" refferences et al. Well, that just about shows *your* level of intelligence in this debate, does it not? Clearly you can see, from the number of people who are fans on this board, that wrestling cuts across a fair few boundaries.

My intelligence is moderate at best. I don't hold any delusions there. And you're right. What was once predominantly found in trailer parks and low rent housing has now crept into mainstream suburbia. That makes it doubly appalling.

It's hardly family viewing in some senses, and obviously it divides people just as much as it brings them together, but my enjoyment of one show that I watch twice a week to make me smile a little more hardly makes me an idiot now, does it?

Hmmmm.....😀

Class dismissed.

Absolutely. Any class the WWF hoped for was dismissed from day one.
 
Shem the Penman said:
Did you just hold up Friends as an example of intelligent writing and good acting?
Shem, compared to professional wrestling, Three's Company and Captain Kangaroo are examples of intelligent writing and good acting.
 
ouch... lol... While I tend to agree with Drew on this one, it is just entertainment. The only reason why I posted on this thread originally was that some people somehow believe that the storylines aren't scripted. Then again, these are the same people that think Jerry Springer, American Idol, Survivor, Crossing Over, or any other "reality" style TV isn't scripted. If people realize that it's scripted but still enjoy it, why mess with them? I used to room with a major wrestling fan my sophomore year in college, and believe me, I was ridiculously familiar with all of the characters in the 98-99 season of WWF, WCW, and even a bit of ECW. It was occasionally humorous and occasionally impressive (especially the acrobatics of people like Rey Mysterio), but for the most part, I tended to enjoy it more when I was drunk....

Wrestling kind of reminds me of a guy's version of a soap opera. Women watch "As the World Turns," while men watch wrestling. The only things that really make me wonder at times are the implications of wrestling. Essentially, it's mostly macho men watching muscular and oiled-up men in skimpy shorts or in spandex grapple each other. I don't know about you, but uh... that seems vaguely homoerotic to me. I mean, I'd probably watch it if it were oiled-up women grappling each other in mud in bikinis, but I don't really like watching men tumble around with each other... Still.. to each his/her own...
 
drew70 said:
Shem, compared to professional wrestling, Three's Company and Captain Kangaroo are examples of intelligent writing and good acting.

To each his own. I rarely watch sitcoms because I find them predictable, tedious, and unfunny. Ditto for the vast majority of reality TV. But hey, if that's the sort of pap you enjoy, more power to you. I'll be over here watching Raw.

Oh, and it's "moot" point, not "mute" point. Nitpicking spelling online is the sign of a vacuous argument. And I say this as someone who corrects others' spelling and grammar for a living.
 
this was pure trolling! Wrestling fans are being bashed for what they like dont tell me it isnt .
 
Krazy said:
this was pure trolling! Wrestling fans are being bashed for what they like dont tell me it isnt .
Aiight, lemme set the record straight here, for a moment...

This thread wasn't motivated by trolling. It was, in fact, just a simple question from a non-fan of the...er, sport. I had noticed a couple of threads aboot the subject, and upon perusing them, was a bit dismayed at the seriousness at which many peeps on this forum seem to have for a laughable form of entertainment, whether pro or con. Surely, there are bigger fish to fry in your everyday lives than ardently discussing wrestling?!?

So, no, this thread was not started tongue-in-cheek; was not approached to satisfy my over-burgeoning ego as Captain Pantaloons has stated (no offense AT, we're still buds)😉, and finally, was intended as an innocent question even though I was unawares at how loaded it would be...

Y'all need to relax now...wrasslin', comparatively, is a non-issue.

Cheers.😀
 
Really last time I checked the topic title didn't say Is Wrestling
fake? it said Yall know Wrasslins fake right? which means it was meant to P*ss off us wrestling fans wasnt it?
 
At least you chose an appropriate nic, Krazy. 🙂

Thank you for that. :blaugh:

Cheers.😀
 
lol@Drew, who had to pick at my spelling to make up the bulk of his "reply". Go you dude. I hope you'll comb through *all* of my posts with such thouroughness, and point out all of those niggling mistakes that no doubt aggrevate you so much. Just remember to put some content into your next post, mmmkay? Good good.

You still don't get it, and I dare say you never will, nor will any of the nay-sayers that pop out of the wood-work to bash something that they don't fully understand to make themselves sound that little bit bigger. Oh well, there loss and not mine, and I shan't waste yet more words (spelled correctly or not) defending something that isn't exactly a huge part of my life anyway. It is, after all, just TV...speaking of which,I have to go now...Raw will be on shortly, I need to get some snacks in for it lol 🙂

AT
 
I know ur tight Moses and u prob. didnt mean to start this whole thing.
 
Flatfoot... you bring up some good points about the Ancient Greeks. Thankfully, the naked part of wrestling is no longer in practice, but yeah, I know what you're saying with sexuality security. The football parallel is rather humorous...
 
Just for Flatfeet...

Wrasslin'. 😛

Alright, I'll stop.

Cheers.😀
 
Yep. I'm a rabble rouser...rabble rabble rabble!!

:blaugh: 😛

Cheers.😀
 
I can't stand the stuff, personally. Just makes my head ache. I can remember my aunt, who was in her late 80's at the time....when she found out it was fake. OH MY GOODNESS! I didn't know she knew that kind of language! :wow:

I guess it's just .........

thespian.jpeg


ACTING!!!!!!!!!!
 
I used to love the names those guys made up for themselves.

All time favorite: The Mongolian Stomper
 
We wrestling fans know wrestling is staged. The fact it is hyped, staged and exagerated is a secondary issue. It is a form of entertainment, akin to all other sports, whether you consider this one or not. Some people wouldn't consider golf, baseball, or basketball a sport, for instance. Its really about point of view. Period. And whose to say that all professional sports aren't staged or fixed? That players aren't paid under the table to take dives on purpose, and their coachs and managers aren't paid bribes by rival teams or those big league fat cats that somehow have a pull over everything? See? One could easily bring this up and debase professional sports on little more than an accusation (not that I am saying anything, its just an example). Just something to consider when you make it a point to disect another person's choice of entertainment.

People don't question professional sports, which is just another form of entertainment, yet they question wrestling. Its a double standard. And the excuse is that professional sports are important or somehow more sophisticated and worldy, and mean something to our history and future. They mean absolutely nothing outside of pride and overinflated egos which are all based on a group of people with the same mindset playing a GAME for money. When you take away the gambling, the beer, the parties, the cheerleaders, the coaches, and everything that revolves around major league sports, its just a game that people are being paid ridiculous ammounts of money to play. Sure, you might say the same of wrestling, but at least theres more to it than simply a game. In fact, was this not the reason it was made more than just a game? Think about it. McMahon and the others that formed this industry have good vision and insight, even if alot of people will choose not to go along with it. Like he gives a $hit about what anyone that doesn't like his business thinks.

Furthermore, our points of view aren't so distorted and we aren't so blind by our enjoyment of this wrestling entertainment that we can't see the inner workings of it.

We actually know more about how its 'fake' then a non-wrestling fan would. We have the knowledge of how it works, technically speaking. An outsider who may know nothing about it would base their claims on an opinion most likely rather than a fact. I feel threads like this are meant to make wrestling fans look like suckers. How are we suckers exactly? Because we choose to watch wrestling in our free time and follow along with it? So what? I know the answer- Because you think its real. Who said that? Thats assumption my friends, an assumption on your parts.

I could easily pick out things you like to watch/do and disect them to establish some sort of difference between you and me if I so wanted to. I don't though because theres no reason to. What do I gain from it, and what does it make me look like? We do have better things to do, don't we?

And to comment on the mention of wrestling being "homoerotic", grow up people. I think comments like that only serve to show one's own insecurity with their own sexuality. No need to be bothered or threatened by wrestling because of something like that. If you would not watch wrestling because you percieve it as 'gay' or something, you need to check yourself. Watching professional wrestling/sports entertainment isn't de-masculating in way. Professional or amateur. God only knows how much you'd miss out on because you feel uncomfortable with something for a reason like this. Note, I'm not picking on the user who mentioned homoeroticism, I'm commenting on the ideal in general as it relates to wrestling. I half expected it to come up in this thread or another sooner or later.

I have been a WWF/WWE fan since I was a kid, but I'm smart enough to know how it works. I don't need to be told about it because I already know. Its not as if I'm pretending its real or are just plain stupid or ignorant. So I feel theres no need for anyone to disprove it when its a given. As I mentioned in a similar thread, I'm glad wrestling is staged. Because if it weren't things wouldn't be the way they are and it wouldn't be the hit that it is.

I'm not gullible or easily amused. I just know what I like to watch in tv programming, when I do watch it, and wrestling is one of those things. No harm in it, and it doesn't define me. Now if I made it my life and made it a mission to commit myself to upholding some sort of lie THEN I would surely be an easily controlled and manipulated individual. THEN I'd deserve any ridicule coming my way. THEN there would be a need to take a step back and re-evaluate this and myself for watching it.
 
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Moses25 said:
Aiight, lemme set the record straight here, for a moment...

I had noticed a couple of threads aboot the subject, and upon perusing them, was a bit dismayed at the seriousness at which many peeps on this forum seem to have for a laughable form of entertainment, whether pro or con. Surely, there are bigger fish to fry in your everyday lives than ardently discussing wrestling?!?







Well, last time I checked, this was a general discussion forum, where you can discuss anything that isn't related to tickling. I could be wrong, though.🙄 ...as for the "bigger fish to fry" comment, anyone with over 1000 posts on a fucking tickling forum...doesn't really have much room to talk about having better things to do...myself included. Sorry about my language, I just found that to be a pretty dumbass statement, obviously stated to anger wrestling fans.
 
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