You should have watched Dateline NBC Tonight!

[darthbane06]

in this episode, we have an undercover female pose as a 13 year old girl in order to lure unsuspecting Predators to a house where they are busted. well, they had this one guy who asked if it was okay to rub the 13 year old's (the undercover female Feet, because it turns him on, and he appears to have a foot fetish. how sick is that?

 

[Macman800]

Yea! I just saw it, the host said that the predator had a thing for feet and thAT the predator wanted to rub the little girl's feet.. how embrassing is that on national television!

 

[knight]

Not as sick as this. I was reading about two years ago about a cop who, while on medical leave for an injury, began to really explore the internet, and realized what a great tool it could be for pedophiles. He began to use the internet to lure these pedophiles into "encounters" where they could be busted. It was brilliant. He created all sorts of online personalities, studied up on the latest trends to make his online personas convincing. One particular pedophile they busted believed he was luring the "boy" to a motel where he planned to tickle torture the kid. Sure enough, they busted the guy, and found all sort of restraints, feathers, and brushes. Now, I admit I get a real turn on from tickling (and for me, it's women getting thickled). I know there are plenty of people who like to see guys get tickled, and that's fine, but not a twelve year old boy (or girl for that matter)! Thank god that that police officer, and others like him, are out there trying to put these sick f**ks in jail.

 

[laughingboy2000]

One particular pedophile they busted believed he was luring the "boy" to a motel where he planned to tickle torture the kid. Sure enough, they busted the guy, and found all sort of restraints, feathers, and brushes. Now, I admit I get a real turn on from tickling (and for me, it's women getting thickled). I know there are plenty of people who like to see guys get tickled, and that's fine, but not a twelve year old boy (or girl for that matter)! Thank god that that police officer, and others like him, are out there trying to put these sick f**ks in jail.

I'm kind of on the fence in regards to this. Yes, I agree that tickling is sexual to a degree and it's not a good idea to get involved with young teens, but I also remember being a 12 year old (not that long ago really). I wanted to be tied up tickled so badly, but for all those years until I turned 18 I was completely taboo to everyone. It was so frustrating for me that I had absolutely no one to help me explore my tickling fetish that it almost drove me crazy.

Therefore, if it's safe and only involves tickling, and it isn't a dangerous person, I honestly don't see a huge issue.

 

[maniactickler]

I'm kind of on the fence in regards to this. Yes, I agree that tickling is sexual to a degree and it's not a good idea to get involved with young teens, but I also remember being a 12 year old (not that long ago really). I wanted to be tied up tickled so badly, but for all those years until I turned 18 I was completely taboo to everyone. It was so frustrating for me that I had absolutely no one to help me explore my tickling fetish that it almost drove me crazy.

Therefore, if it's safe and only involves tickling, and it isn't a dangerous person, I honestly don't see a huge issue.

I dont have a problem with a little playful, teasing type of tickling with a younger girl. but to tie her up and torture her is way out of bounds.

 

[TicklishLurker]

I'm kind of on the fence in regards to this. Yes, I agree that tickling is sexual to a degree and it's not a good idea to get involved with young teens, but I also remember being a 12 year old (not that long ago really). I wanted to be tied up tickled so badly, but for all those years until I turned 18 I was completely taboo to everyone. It was so frustrating for me that I had absolutely no one to help me explore my tickling fetish that it almost drove me crazy.

Therefore, if it's safe and only involves tickling, and it isn't a dangerous person, I honestly don't see a huge issue.

Most likely, the monster would've ended the night raping the boy. Anyway if, God forbid, you ever become or have someone you love become the victim of a sexual assault, you'll rapidly change your tune.

 

[jay jay]

i wish i could have watched that episode! nice to know that the cops are taking down those sick ppl that decide they can do that with little kids! thats just wrong!

 

[laughingboy2000]

Most likely, the monster would've ended the night raping the boy. Anyway if, God forbid, you ever become or have someone you love become the victim of a sexual assault, you'll rapidly change your tune.

Sexual assault isn't a risk soley to young teens though. You're taking a risk every time you let someone tie you up and take control of you, regardless of age. What I'm saying is if it's someone safe doing it, like some of the various well known members of this board, then I don't really see the issue

 

[TicklishLurker]

Sexual assault isn't a risk soley to young teens though. You're taking a risk every time you let someone tie you up and take control of you, regardless of age. What I'm saying is if it's someone safe doing it, like some of the various well known members of this board, then I don't really see the issue

Because it's an ADULT doing something that is for us SEXUAL to a child.

TALKING about the fetish it one thing. ACTING it out it another. It makes the adult a disgusting pervert who would be better off dead and the child a victim who will be forever scarred.

You may not see it as a big deal now, but believe me, it's not a happy experience. I've been there in a different way - only my assaulters were boys my own age and no tickling was involved. I'd only been the last few years I could admit it even happened and it affected the rest of my life. About two years ago a man fondled my butt in passing, I mean full out grabbed, cupped, and rubbed. What everyone else found amusing and told me I should be complimented by, ended up giving me flashbacks to jr. high and nightmares for about three weeks.

It's a big deal. It's a VERY big deal.

 

[laughingboy2000]

Because it's an ADULT doing something that is for us SEXUAL to a child.

TALKING about the fetish it one thing. ACTING it out it another. It makes the adult a disgusting pervert who would be better off dead and the child a victim who will be forever scarred.

You may not see it as a big deal now, but believe me, it's not a happy experience. I've been there in a different way - only my assaulters were boys my own age and no tickling was involved. I'd only been the last few years I could admit it even happened and it affected the rest of my life. About two years ago a man fondled my butt in passing, I mean full out grabbed, cupped, and rubbed. What everyone else found amusing and told me I should be complimented by, ended up giving me flashbacks to jr. high and nightmares for about three weeks.

It's a big deal. It's a VERY big deal.

Listen, I agree completely with you. No one should have anything sexual done to them that they don't want to have happen to them. That is sexual abuse and it's disgusting, immoral, and should never be tolerated.

I am not talking about that however. I am talking about 100% willful, consensual actions. When I was younger, starting at around 13, I really wanted to get tied up and be tickled. I don't see why it would have been disgusting, bad, or perverted to have someone above 18 do that to me when I am the one who wants and asks for it. Why would THAT be bad?

 

[TicklishLurker]

Listen, I agree completely with you. No one should have anything sexual done to them that they don't want to have happen to them. That is sexual abuse and it's disgusting, immoral, and should never be tolerated.

I am not talking about that however. I am talking about 100% willful, consensual actions. When I was younger, starting at around 13, I really wanted to get tied up and be tickled. I don't see why it would have been disgusting, bad, or perverted to have someone above 18 do that to me when I am the one who wants and asks for it. Why would THAT be bad?

Because you'd still be a child being taken advantage of by an adult. At that age you're not ready even if you think you are. Why do you think so many end up with STDs, HIV, unwanted pregnancies, prositution, etc? Because they did something they weren't mature enough mentally or emotionally for. And the adult would be wrong to indulge it.

You may think there's nothing wrong with it, but that's because you didn't do it. There are lots of kids who have. You can find them on tv, in magazines, on the internet all the time. Look into their haunted eyes and tell me it's not wrong.

I know some people are going to come down on me for this. So I'll step out now. But I will always stand by my statement that it's wrong to do that to a child even if the child asks for it. Talking about it, learning to accept it the way you would teach any child about the "birds and bees" so they can grow up into a happy, well adjusted adult it one thing. DOING it to them is wrong.

 

[asutickler]

I know some people are going to come down on me for this.

I would imagine that the vast majority of people would agree with your view on this issue... I certainly do.

Any adult who would consider performing any sort of sexual or fetish-related act with a child is in desperate need of mental help. Any adult who actually does such a thing is in desperate need of a lengthy prison term.

 

[tulipangel]

See? He likes feet! Now, if he wasnt some sick-o looking to mess with a 13 yr old I would have dated him (if I were single)! Damn child molesters! I think beyond him, the Teacher guy freaked me out most! I mean the 42 yr old was sick but the teacher? OY! creepy dudes!

 

[tulipangel]

Oh, Lurker! I agree with you! 100%!!!!!!!!! At 12 or 13 yrs old....? Being tickled at that age is fine but to have an adult want to tie you up? OY VEY!!!!!!!!

 

[laughingboy2000]

Oh, Lurker! I agree with you! 100%!!!!!!!!! At 12 or 13 yrs old....? Being tickled at that age is fine but to have an adult want to tie you up? OY VEY!!!!!!!!

But why? Back when I was 13 and really wanted someone to tie and tickle me, why would it have been wrong for someone else to oblige? What made it wrong when I was 13, but made it suddenly ok when I hit 18?

All I'm hearing honestly is "because it's wrong to do it with kids" but I'm not hearing any arguments that use data or something else to hold the argument up.

 

[tulipangel]

But why? Back when I was 13 and really wanted someone to tie and tickle me, why would it have been wrong for someone else to oblige? What made it wrong when I was 13, but made it suddenly ok when I hit 18?

All I'm hearing honestly is "because it's wrong to do it with kids" but I'm not hearing any arguments that use data or something else to hold the argument up.

OK, how about its the law and the state would probably see it as sexual abuse even if the child agreed to it! how about that! Forget that I think its gross for an adult to tie up and tickle torture a kid... the law would probably say that the child at 13 is not old enough to concent and the guy would go to jail! get it now! And besides.... start with just being tied up and the guy can harm the kid, turn violent or sexual arousal? at 18 you SHOULD know who to trust and who not to.... but a 13 yr old has no clue what the real world is truely like!

 

[Tamia78]

Tulip and Lurker, I think you two are right on the money when you describe how wrong that is. I understand that when laughingboy was 13 wanting to be tied and tickled, but it would have been appropriate if one of his friends who were about the same age do that for him. An adult should know better than to mess with a child like that. Children DON'T know what's good for them, that's why we put laws in place to protect them. And I can see Lurker's point that for some adults (me included) tickling is a sexual thing, and it would be horrible to imagine some sick f*ck acting out those sexual fantasies on a child!!! True, it may or may not have happened that the man with the tickling fetish would've tried anything sexual with the boy, but just the thought of an grown man getting pleasure out of ANYTHING having to do with children being exploited makes me cringe.

 

[MrPartickler]

All I'm hearing honestly is "because it's wrong to do it with kids" but I'm not hearing any arguments that use data or something else to hold the argument up.

You're right. Most folks are applying moral standards based on laws and cultural norms they/we grew up with and, hence, find most reasonable. For a potentially more objective viewpoint, check the ages of consent (AoC) around the world at this <a href="http://www.avert.org/aofconsent.htm">site</a>. It's broken down by country and/or US state with categories for male-female, male-male, and female-female sex. A few countries have an AoC as low as 13 or 14 (Argentina? & Brazil--I can't remember, but read the footnotes). Many US states list 16, although I wouldn't be surprised if a conservative state or federal bill comes forward in our lifetimes proposing to have it moved to 21. LOL Seriously.

Anyway, the age of 18 is arbitrary, but, generally speaking, it's the law for "adulthood" in the US. Therefore it's the number most Americans have in their heads as the appropriate AoC for sexual activities with an adult partner. The point is that there are places in the world where, provided the activity was truly safe and consentual, no one would bat an eyelash.

 

[tulipangel]

AOC in NY is 16 i think! Ummmm, if i were your 16 yr old daughter and came home with a 40 yr old man and said he is my bf and we are in a tickling relationship you wouldnt FLIP OUT? Ummmm, I would! Id go nuts! No adult should touch a CHILD like that! Lets forget the law then! How about its just nasty! Why would a GROWN man need to tickle and tie up a young 13 yr old boy? Ummmm its sick and nasty! Wanna tie up another grown man who looks young fine! go ahead! But an actual CHILD! YUCK!

 

[MrPartickler]

AOC in NY is 16 i think! Ummmm, if i were your 16 yr old daughter and came home with a 40 yr old man and said he is my bf and we are in a tickling relationship you wouldnt FLIP OUT? Ummmm, I would! Id go nuts! No adult should touch a CHILD like that! Lets forget the law then! How about its just nasty! Why would a GROWN man need to tickle and tie up a young 13 yr old boy? Ummmm its sick and nasty! Wanna tie up another grown man who looks young fine! go ahead! But an actual CHILD! YUCK!

Hey, I hear ya. I think most of us are creeped out by such an idea. The law is there mainly to determine when criminal charges are applicable and when they're not. So, because of the moral underpinnings, I doubt you'll see many 40 year olds in traditional relationships with, say, a 14y.o. anywhere--even though they may have "encounters" that are, perhaps, not so rare in some places. (I'll leave it at that.) Still, the moral/ethical line can become a bit blurred when it's a 23 year old and, say, a 16 year-old. However, the legal line remains clear.

 

[confessor]

As for the laws in the State of Florida, I don't think an adult rubbing or tickling the feet of a 13 year old girl would constitute a crime. There must be some physical contact with the private parts of the adult or the child. In Florida, we call it Lewd and Lacivious Conduct (for non-penetration) or Sexual Battery (for penetration). We also have a crime called Sado-masochistic Torture. So, if the adult tied up the child in order to tickle them, it would be a crime. I know a guy who is a sex crimes prosecutor. He had a case where a 40 year old man was "dating" a 15 year old girl and the girl's parents wanted him prosecuted. He said there was nothing he could do, because he never touched her privates and she never touched his. They just did a lot of kissing and holding hands. So, while the foot rub situtation might be morally wrong, I don't think its criminal. In order to arrest this guy, there must have been some discussion of sexual activity with the undercover officer.

 

[asutickler]

AOC in NY is 16 i think! Ummmm, if i were your 16 yr old daughter and came home with a 40 yr old man and said he is my bf and we are in a tickling relationship you wouldnt FLIP OUT?

"Flip out" would be a considerable understatement.

 

[AquaFeline]

Hmm. In general there is very little good information for people under 18 with fetishes, nor is there anything in the way of support groups for people under 18.
Most of them are probably lurking among us, because there is not really anywhere else for them to go. A solution might be a message board that disallowed PMs and posting of personal information, including even AIM names. I guess I don't see why adults couldn't post there too as long as they didn't pretend not to be adults (the same rules apply in terms of personal info.) I mean, somebody has to give advice. 😉 Or maybe an advice column or something.

Actually, unless you check the ID of whomever you make a tickle date, and they don't have wrinkles or gray hair or whatever, you can't be certain they are of age (and fake IDs are not that hard to come by.) What is the law if someone claims to be 18 or over and turns out not to be?

 

[chicago]

But why? Back when I was 13 and really wanted someone to tie and tickle me, why would it have been wrong for someone else to oblige? What made it wrong when I was 13, but made it suddenly ok when I hit 18?

All I'm hearing honestly is "because it's wrong to do it with kids" but I'm not hearing any arguments that use data or something else to hold the argument up.

If you can't comprehend the difference between someone that's 13 and someone that's 18, something's wrong with you. And if you don't think that a sexual relationship between someone under 18 and someone in their 30's or 40's is wrong, you are seriously messed up.

I almost hope you don't have children, because if you encourage them to live out their fantasies through people who wouldn't think twice of doing something to a young child, you're probably just as bad as the molester.

 

[Horatio]

All I'm hearing honestly is "because it's wrong to do it with kids" but I'm not hearing any arguments that use data or something else to hold the argument up.

Well, here's some data. Here's what a 40-something guy who might want to tie and tickle a teenage boy looks like. 😉