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Dr. Bill Kobb
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Whew!
For a second there, you had me worried.
I was afraid these guys
were making a comeback!
I'm sure they'll only use the new technology for 'good'.
For a second there, you had me worried.
I was afraid these guys
were making a comeback!
I'm sure they'll only use the new technology for 'good'.
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Um... this is the weirdest joke I've ever read...
Actualy if I read this new story correct...this could be actualy a very good thing in the future times..maybe for the next generation (that is if we all dont die before then from a nuke or some political consperasy LOL) and give more people a chance to live in the event of some tragedys...so nothin bad bout it at all!
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MTP Jeff said:
My mistake... I researched this item for other sources, and you're right.... Sometimes truth really is stranger than fiction...
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Where's my android French-maid sex-slave?
Where's my hover-craft?
Where's my beer-pills?!?
The future's not what it used to be...
Where's my hover-craft?
Where's my beer-pills?!?
The future's not what it used to be...
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Viable suspension technology is an important step in the process of curing death.
Look at it this way. Current research is starting to show that aging is the basic result of genetic damage over time. There are several factors that lead to the damage. But what it comes down to is that the accepted idea of aging>>>death is not needfully the outcome that has to happen. Aging is just another disease, in this case a genetic illness.
Given the right level of biotechnology (one where genetic re-writes are doable) or high nanotechnology (actual physical repair of genomes) Age reversial and positional locking (pick an age and stay there) become viable. Thus a cure to death by aging.
Now, in that light the current 'death' of human is basically a huge loss. Such a waste!. If such people can be suspended until such a point as when repairs can be made to them to correct for the aging damage that led to their 'death', then they would be fully recoverable to continue leading happy extended lives.
So this is significant progress on a front that will be very very important in the next five decades. For those of us who will be cutting it close in making it to the high technologies that will extend lifespan suspension is very important.
Myriads
Look at it this way. Current research is starting to show that aging is the basic result of genetic damage over time. There are several factors that lead to the damage. But what it comes down to is that the accepted idea of aging>>>death is not needfully the outcome that has to happen. Aging is just another disease, in this case a genetic illness.
Given the right level of biotechnology (one where genetic re-writes are doable) or high nanotechnology (actual physical repair of genomes) Age reversial and positional locking (pick an age and stay there) become viable. Thus a cure to death by aging.
Now, in that light the current 'death' of human is basically a huge loss. Such a waste!. If such people can be suspended until such a point as when repairs can be made to them to correct for the aging damage that led to their 'death', then they would be fully recoverable to continue leading happy extended lives.
So this is significant progress on a front that will be very very important in the next five decades. For those of us who will be cutting it close in making it to the high technologies that will extend lifespan suspension is very important.
Myriads
So we cure death by aging.....Then where do we put all of the people.....
I see no need to cure the natural process when there are many other ways to prolong the lives of those who die young from cancer, aids, and even from starvation in a world full of food.
Waste of resources to try and cure that which comes naturally in my opinion, until so many other issues are addressed......
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I see no need to cure the natural process when there are many other ways to prolong the lives of those who die young from cancer, aids, and even from starvation in a world full of food.
Waste of resources to try and cure that which comes naturally in my opinion, until so many other issues are addressed......
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Then it's a good thing you've got a grizz on your side, innit?Ayla ny said:
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"Where do we put the people" was asked
If you reach a level of science that allows such as I described above, (Most specifically high nanotech) then space is a trivial issue. High nanotech allows for massive solar power farming and thus massive energy availibility. This allows cheep space launch via electric rail launch. This allows for easy explotation of space, and construction of viable orbital habitats. (or moon or mars based teraforming)
Take a small asteroid. Drop it into a nice orbit, then unfurl some monofilm mirrors around it. Spin the rock as it heats, and it will spin up into a nice large hollow sphere (perhaps you help it ballon out with a low yeild fission charge, but it would be simpler to did it a few other ways). Let it cool. Spin it up to one G. Pop a hole in it. Use your nanotech to teraform the inside surface to nice soil and add structural features for reinforcement, drag over some cometary ice for water, and atmosphere (O2 and H cracked by nano again and recombined into CO2 also) and you have a dyson sphere able to comfortably house a few million folks. repeat as needed.
There are terrestial solutions also.
If you have a science that lets you do molecular repair of cells, you have a technology that can do some impressive feats of constuction. You can build just about anything anyplace, and have options for collecting huge amounts of power (Picture a few square miles of photovoltaic solar cells grown in the desert out of the sand and some seeded bots) cheep power lets you do even more...
Myriads
If you reach a level of science that allows such as I described above, (Most specifically high nanotech) then space is a trivial issue. High nanotech allows for massive solar power farming and thus massive energy availibility. This allows cheep space launch via electric rail launch. This allows for easy explotation of space, and construction of viable orbital habitats. (or moon or mars based teraforming)
Take a small asteroid. Drop it into a nice orbit, then unfurl some monofilm mirrors around it. Spin the rock as it heats, and it will spin up into a nice large hollow sphere (perhaps you help it ballon out with a low yeild fission charge, but it would be simpler to did it a few other ways). Let it cool. Spin it up to one G. Pop a hole in it. Use your nanotech to teraform the inside surface to nice soil and add structural features for reinforcement, drag over some cometary ice for water, and atmosphere (O2 and H cracked by nano again and recombined into CO2 also) and you have a dyson sphere able to comfortably house a few million folks. repeat as needed.
There are terrestial solutions also.
If you have a science that lets you do molecular repair of cells, you have a technology that can do some impressive feats of constuction. You can build just about anything anyplace, and have options for collecting huge amounts of power (Picture a few square miles of photovoltaic solar cells grown in the desert out of the sand and some seeded bots) cheep power lets you do even more...
Myriads
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Though optimistic about what mankind can achieve when it comes to the exploration and habitation of outer space (I've always been a hardcore reader of Popular Science and Omni), I agree with Venray. Our planet is ruled by greed and petty bickering....no way we're ever going to achieve any sort of colonisation of space.
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Greed and bickering mostly arise out of the need for limited resorces. Energy and food mainly.
With high sciences you can gather all the energy you need for cheep. With nanotech you can assemble food. As much as you need, mostly from carbon hydrogen and nitrogen split out of atmospheric dissasembly and trace materials.
Remove the compitition and your conflicts start to resolve themselves pretty quickly to stuff where people are fighting of limited things like a specific piece of land, or a deep division of belief. But most of the conflicts that waste resorces now are pretty easily delt with by feeding folks, and providing solid housing and medical care (side note, if you can do genetic repair you can cure any viral or germ based disease by simply dissassembling the invaders)
Yes, my viewpoint is utopian in many aspects. It will take a long time to realize and the problems that arise when these technologies start to appear will be massive and very dislocating. Nanotechnology can/will do for physical objects what the internet has done for digital ones. Opens them to easy copying and disimination. It will play havok with the mechanical based socital patterns we have created. But as the technologies get applied and people get past the changes, just as the web has unfiltrated many areas of life (used your telephone/TV/web browser/GPS/Text messager that you carry in your pocket of late?) so will these techs.
Will there be a lot of uglyness on the way? Yes. No questions.
But I remain hopeful for our species. We managed to not cinderize the planet in the last 60 years which is a point for us. I believe we'll manage these new techs to our benefit also.
Diregression: Space wihtout massive cheep energy sucks. It's too expensive to get up into it from a gravity well, and too expensive to do stuff when you are there if you need to port all your water/air etc. You need the high end sciences to use it well. Until we get them we'll always be in a hostal environment just scratching along there.
Enjoying the discussion.
Myriads
With high sciences you can gather all the energy you need for cheep. With nanotech you can assemble food. As much as you need, mostly from carbon hydrogen and nitrogen split out of atmospheric dissasembly and trace materials.
Remove the compitition and your conflicts start to resolve themselves pretty quickly to stuff where people are fighting of limited things like a specific piece of land, or a deep division of belief. But most of the conflicts that waste resorces now are pretty easily delt with by feeding folks, and providing solid housing and medical care (side note, if you can do genetic repair you can cure any viral or germ based disease by simply dissassembling the invaders)
Yes, my viewpoint is utopian in many aspects. It will take a long time to realize and the problems that arise when these technologies start to appear will be massive and very dislocating. Nanotechnology can/will do for physical objects what the internet has done for digital ones. Opens them to easy copying and disimination. It will play havok with the mechanical based socital patterns we have created. But as the technologies get applied and people get past the changes, just as the web has unfiltrated many areas of life (used your telephone/TV/web browser/GPS/Text messager that you carry in your pocket of late?) so will these techs.
Will there be a lot of uglyness on the way? Yes. No questions.
But I remain hopeful for our species. We managed to not cinderize the planet in the last 60 years which is a point for us. I believe we'll manage these new techs to our benefit also.
Diregression: Space wihtout massive cheep energy sucks. It's too expensive to get up into it from a gravity well, and too expensive to do stuff when you are there if you need to port all your water/air etc. You need the high end sciences to use it well. Until we get them we'll always be in a hostal environment just scratching along there.
Enjoying the discussion.
Myriads
Myriads said:
I too hold hope for our species. More and more, people are speaking out, and reaching out trying to understand each other and help where they can.
Indeed if we can get to the point that these technologies can be developed, life can be good for all.
The next problem that I see, however, is that any technology that can be used to build can also be used to destroy. If we can destroy diseased cells, then we can destroy healthy ones as well or alter brain patterns thus changing people to conform to a particular way of thinking.....
I still think that until we as a species learn to help one another and coexist in peace, that a technology like this just cant work. It could in fact destroy us all instead....
(I too am enjoying the discussion...keep it going folks)
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Oh no questions the possibilites for nastiness with High nanotech and gene altering biotech are fantasticly big. Like every tool we've built it can/will be used for negative things as well as positive.
The one plus is that unlike nuclear power, and most industrial technologies these high sciences can be used to prevent/repare damages caused by them.
Myriads
The one plus is that unlike nuclear power, and most industrial technologies these high sciences can be used to prevent/repare damages caused by them.
Myriads
