Real 100% No bullshit Non Consensual Tickling Video!!!

[rhiannon]

It doesn't matter if this special clip was not real! It's about if it's GENERALLY okay to tie someone down and then do something against their will!

I'm sorry to hear you were raped and your daughter was raped! And you, having been raped, should agree that it is totally not okay to do something someone did not agree to! So I really don't know what it is exactly that makes you say it's not a big deal! That it's "just" tickling?

Again, I am NOT talking about this clip! And who do you think you are telling me to shut up?

you know nothing!

Ya think? I've been tied down for a tickling playdate and the guy then did something I did not agree to! So I freaking know what I'm talking about!

 

[FeatherTongue]

If the girl does not want to be tied down and tickled against her will, it simply won't happen. She will do whatever it takes to get away prior to bondage. There is no such thing as taking advantage of a ticklish body, because a sincerely disinterested body would not respond to tickling that was not pleasureable. The sensational mood would evaporate.

The crying, if there is any, is tears of joy. She was just overloaded with pleasure, because it's been so long since she's been with a stud instead of a dud.

 

[rhiannon]

She will do whatever it takes to get away prior to bondage.

Not if she trusted that something else than tickling will happen during bondage.

a sincerely disinterested body would not respond to tickling that was not pleasureable. The sensational mood would evaporate.

I highly doubt that. I don't think the tickling sensation can be blocked or just not felt if someone is truly ticklish. But I'm ready to be proven otherwise if there is any evidence for that.

 

[FeatherTongue]

You already experienced the pleasures of nonconsentual tickling, rhiannon. It's why you're here attempting to resurrect the feelings of being out of control. It is why you continually resist and provoke.

If you were genuinely disinterested in nonconsentual tickling, your post count in nonconsentual tickling threads would be pithier. Hell...there is no such thing as a plain German. German people have the most colorful thoughts and interests!!

 

[rhiannon]

You already experienced the pleasures of nonconsentual tickling, rhiannon.

Not while I was tied down. I know though if someone tickles me and I don't want it while not tied down, it makes me extremely uncomfortable and I want it to stop and I can not block out the feeling.

It's why you're here attempting to resurrect the feelings of being out of control.

The feeling of being out of control is indeed what I enjoy about consentual tickling.

Hell...there is no such thing as a plain German. German people have the most colorful thoughts and interests!!

Thanks. I take that as a compliment although I do believe it's kinda stereotype.

 

[GQguy]

Hell...there is no such thing as a plain German. German people have the most colorful thoughts and interests!!

I love Germans. Not sure if all of them will love me but can't wait to visit!

The video is fake. If I were in a noncosentual situation there'd be no way one could tickle me despite my ticklishness. The tickling sensation would quickly turn to a prodding sensation and the threats of violence would abound. The individual would know that I planned to sue and call the cops.

I guess in the end if the individual was paid after the fact was it still non con? Where is the line for non con drawn? I tickle my girl everynight without her consent, does that make it non con? Or is it the feeling after the fact that makes it non con....she playfully pushes me away and says stop...no hard feelings.

IMHO a true non con would be a video taken without permission then distributed without permission.

GQ

 

[hawkin]

Too bad it's fake, was really looking forward to it.

 

[coldneck]

The big problem is that there is no way to know upfront if she will be fine with it afterwards. And while it happened the person is helpless and can't do anything to make it stop. It's kinda like a rapist saying "she said no, but her eyes said yes" afterwards.

Oh, and you can cross out the "probably". It IS crossing the line.

Comparing Non-Con Tickling to RAPE is about the most thoughtless, face-palm idiotic and mind-numbingly cruel thing I can think of suggesting to a rape survivor.

Listen, I know rape victims.
One of my best friend's 16 yr old daughter Rachael was raped by a Sex-Offender in his Subway uniform and he punched her so hard her shattered jaw had to be wired shut for months so she couldn't even talk about it or eat solid food.
Ask her if she would have traded being tickled for being raped and she will either attack you physically (justifiably) or break down sobbing because she thought you were making fun of her.

Rape affects victims, families and friends for LIFE, and them some.

Comparing the two is a viscous slap-in-the-face to victims of RAPE and Sexual Assault.

Your agenda here is clear; and you're willing to cross any line and say *anything* in attempt to sway people to your way of thinking.

Tickling is not a crime.
Comparing it to RAPE should be.
Get over it.

 

[Wolf]

Comparing Non-Con Tickling to RAPE is about the most thoughtless, face-palm idiotic and mind-numbingly cruel thing I can think of suggesting to a rape survivor.

Listen, I know rape victims.
One of my best friend's 16 yr old daughter Rachael was raped by a Sex-Offender in his Subway uniform and he punched her so hard her shattered jaw had to be wired shut for months so she couldn't even talk about it or eat solid food.
Ask her if she would have traded being tickled for being raped and she will either attack you physically (justifiably) or break down sobbing because she thought you were making fun of her.

Rape affects victims, families and friends for LIFE, and them some.

Comparing the two is a viscous slap-in-the-face to victims of RAPE and Sexual Assault.

Your agenda here is clear; and you're willing to cross any line and say *anything* in attempt to sway people to your way of thinking.

Tickling is not a crime.
Comparing it to RAPE should be.
Get over it.

Good to know that a 16-year-old's violent rape doesn't mean she has to suffer in vain;
At least the incident was useful for someone to make a point justifying their own personal likes regarding tickle porn. I'm sure she and her dad can take some solace in that.

 

[coldneck]

Good to know that a 16-year-old's violent rape doesn't mean she has to suffer in vain; At least the incident was useful for someone to make a point justifying their own personal likes regarding tickle porn. I'm sure she and her dad can take some solace in that.

If you regard rape that cavalierly, that would explain why you hold it in the same category as tickling somebody without permission. I won't waste my time trying to instill a conscience in you.

 

[Wolf]

If you regard rape that cavalierly, that would explain why you hold it in the same category as tickling somebody without permission. I won't waste my time trying to instill a conscience in you.

On the contrary, I regard rape as one of the most heinous acts a human can perpetrate on another. That's why I wouldn't dream of callously using someone else's agony to further my own agenda.
But that's just me.

 

[coldneck]

On the contrary, I regard rape as one of the most heinous acts a human can perpetrate on another. That's why I wouldn't dream of callously using someone else's agony to further my own agenda.
But that's just me.

If that's true, you're beef is with Rhianna, then. Not me. She's the one who introduced rape to further her campaign against noncon tickling. Like you, I totally object to her doing so.

 

[BellybTickler]

I honestly regarded this thread as a joke .. but I'm finding myself agreeing with Coldneck ... Non-Con tickling may be tasteless, awful, and wrong .. but I wouldn't equate it to rape, or any other crime in that nature. Mountain out of a mole hill much?

 

[LadyNerd]

While I can't say I'd necessarily equate non-consensual tickling to rape, I would certainly log it as sexual harassment. I can also say that while it isn't rape, it could very well mentally scar someone to a similar degree. It just depends on the person and their personal experiences.

 

[rhiannon]

While I can't say I'd necessarily equate non-consensual tickling to rape, I would certainly log it as sexual harassment. I can also say that while it isn't rape, it could very well mentally scar someone to a similar degree. It just depends on the person and their personal experiences.

This is exactly what I am trying to say.

 

[Mane'o]

I doubt few literally equate rape with restraining someone against their will and tickling them but it might be used as an analogy. However, the core of this discussion should not be sidelined by this debate. And I, like I would imagine others in this discussion, also sadly know victims of the horrible crime of rape, and no doubt there may even be some on this chat, though not necessarily in this discussion, who unfortunately may have been victims of that despicable crime. That simply is to say, the statement that one knows someone or otherwise has knowledge of the crime of rape does not change the basic argument here - that restraining someone against his or her will and tickling without consent is wrong. It is a violation of the person tied and tickled. It is not lawful for an individual to be detained or held against his or her will by another person whether tickling is involved or not.

Maintaing the fiction that it is OK to do whatever one wants to another person involving tickling is misguided and false. For many on this site and part of the larger community, taking that attitude is also viewed as harmful. Making the argument that such behavior is ok if you don't get caught is like sating its ok to cheat on your taxes as long as you don't get caught or it's ok to shoplift if you don't get caught.

All tickling is not the same. Trying to lump it altogether is also not a defense of nonconsensual actions.

 

[No_Style]

While I can't say I'd necessarily equate non-consensual tickling to rape, I would certainly log it as sexual harassment. I can also say that while it isn't rape, it could very well mentally scar someone to a similar degree. It just depends on the person and their personal experiences.

thank you. Agree 100%.

 

[Q_0]

While I can't say I'd necessarily equate non-consensual tickling to rape, I would certainly log it as sexual harassment. I can also say that while it isn't rape, it could very well mentally scar someone to a similar degree. It just depends on the person and their personal experiences.

That's right, it depends on the person.

I'm guessing supporters of non-con tickling aren't ticklish and can't imagine what it's really like, and to their minds it's not SO bad.

There are people that would rather eat a bucket of feces than be tickled for over a minute.

I'm not even kidding. If you can't imagine how that's possible then I can't help you.

 

[Provocateur]

The /b/tard in me is screaming "STFU moralfags!"

At the same time, however, I must say that if she were somebody I cared about, you would fear me more than a lawsuit. You would fear me for the rest of your life, and I would make sure the rest of your life sucked really bad.
Honestly, non-con is some of the most disgusting shit I have ever seen. Something about the screaming of a person in real distress should make any normal human being feel compelled to interfere. Then again, in this is also a dark pleasure one can enjoy. I understand both sides, however I am more against than I am for non-con.

 

[Raytheon]

Non-con tickling in a playful rough and tumble on the sofa - yea fine, thats what tickling is.
Non-con tickling by lying about a previously agreed photo shoot to sexually assault her to get off to your own weird fetish - Deserves a baseball bat to the face.

If you went to a lesbian tie and tickle shoot and they anally fisted you how would you feel?

 

[Q_0]

"Non-con tickling in a playful rough and tumble on the sofa - yea fine, thats what tickling is."

That's fine if the person doesn't hate being tickled and it's not for too long.

 

[porcelaindoll2]

This thread is why I don't like it when producers use the models that are only doing it because they are desperate for cash. I feel desperation can make humans do stupid regretful things. I prefer the videos where you can tell the models are doing it because they want to or actually enjoy it. I do fetish modeling because I love the thrill of it and i genuinely enjoy it. The cash is just a plus. Oh I am against non con anything. I equate non consensual with torture(Meh this could just be me).

 

[rhiannon]

Something about the screaming of a person in real distress should make any normal human being feel compelled to interfere.

This is exactly what I think, too. I have seen one tickling video - not non-con, but from a slave-master relationship, so I guess tickling really wasn't her cup of tea - where the lee started crying. Any kind of sexual excitement I may have felt up to this point vanished instantly. Whoever doesn't feel that way might double-check if they need a therapist.

 

[Raytheon]

Q_0: "Non-con tickling in a playful rough and tumble on the sofa - yea fine, thats what tickling is."

That's fine if the person doesn't hate being tickled and it's not for too long.

I agree Stopping when the person is actually wanting to stop is i think a top rule of tickling. Theres a huge difference between a 'giggly flailing hands stop' and a 'get the f*** off me hitting out stop' When the playful fun side of tickling is lost it stops being tickling

 

[Phineas]

Comparing Non-Con Tickling to RAPE is about the most thoughtless, face-palm idiotic and mind-numbingly cruel thing I can think of suggesting to a rape survivor.

Listen, I know rape victims.
One of my best friend's 16 yr old daughter Rachael was raped by a Sex-Offender in his Subway uniform and he punched her so hard her shattered jaw had to be wired shut for months so she couldn't even talk about it or eat solid food.
Ask her if she would have traded being tickled for being raped and she will either attack you physically (justifiably) or break down sobbing because she thought you were making fun of her.

Rape affects victims, families and friends for LIFE, and them some.

Comparing the two is a viscous slap-in-the-face to victims of RAPE and Sexual Assault.

Your agenda here is clear; and you're willing to cross any line and say *anything* in attempt to sway people to your way of thinking.

Tickling is not a crime.
Comparing it to RAPE should be.
Get over it.

I had a response to this back when it was posted, but I didn't feel like typing it out. As both this and another thread about the morality of touching strangers without their consent has popped back up, I think I should.

First of all, what I'm about to say in no way trivializes what coldneck's friend's daughter went through. It was a horrible thing. Beyond horrible. I hope she's doing okay these days.

Here's the thing, though; people like her exist. People who've been traumatized by sexual assault perpetrated by strangers. Some people carry the damage from that trauma for years after. Some of them may never properly relate to the opposite sex again.

Look at the woman sitting next to you on the bus. Can you tell at a glance if she's one of those people unless she's eyeing you and fingering a can of Mace? No. You can't.

So while it's true that asking the young lady mentioned above if she'd rather be tickled than raped is in horribly poor taste, what if you asked her if she'd be okay with a complete stranger, twice her size, sneaking up behind her and touching her without her knowledge? I think she'd have a far different reaction. Better yet, what if you just plain did it without telling her? What are you going to do if it triggers a flashback? Grin and say you're sorry while she's curled up sobbing on the ground? Better yet, blow off her trauma by telling her "it's just tickling, stop being so sensitive!"?

Bottom line... you shouldn't touch people you don't know precisely because you don't know how they're going to react. They could be a closet tickle fetishist hoping you throw caution to the wind and give them fodder for the True Stories forum. But... they could ALSO be a poor young woman who had her jaw broken a year ago and would really rather you stay the fuck away from her unless it's on her terms. Not giving her the option to define how people interact with her is simply the height of arrogance and selfishness. Full stop, end of story.