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Are other straight guys into M/M tickling, or am I just weird?

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Hope everyone is having a restful and tickle-filled holiday season.

So I'm a reasonably expert tickler, 33 yo in the NE, and have always loved tickle torturing women. But because women into this are, comparatively speaking, rare -- I've started tying up and tickling the heck out of guys. It isn't sexual; it's more just the "who's more alpha male"/"can I break this person?" kind of curiosity. Are there any other straight guys who have tied up other guys, or been tied up?

Just to give you an idea of how intensely I take my sessions, recent pic is below 😈


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This is one question that gets raised here very often, definitely in the top five. I'll give you my opinion, which you are free to take with as much salt as you deem appropriate.

The terms "straight" and "m/m" are contradictory. If tickling is just another way to horse around, like wrestling, and provides no thrill for you, then I would say it's probably fine.

However, being "into m/m" suggests that you DO get pleasure out of it. If that's the case, you can't really claim to be entirely straight, even if the idea of having sex with guys repulses you. Contrary to popular myth, being gay is not a trait that one inherits at birth. It is learned. An "acquired taste," so to speak.

My guess is that you regard yourself as straight because as far as sex goes, you want to have it with girls and definitely not with guys. That's great. However, if you continue to indulge in m/m, then sooner or later that will gradually change. You may not believe it can, but it will, trust me. Foot and rib tickling will eventually lead to ball tickling. Erections will occur and beg for relief from whomever is "handy" at the moment.

I'm not saying that's necessarily bad, if that's what you want. But if your straightness is something you want to hold on to, then I would suggest you stick with girls for tickling.
 
Sexual orientation and paraphilia orientation can be different as they operate on different psychologies.

They often line up, but not always.

So no, it's not unusual to have differing sexual and paraphilic orientations. I could go into a lot of blah-blah about how it all works and so on, but if you search similar threads as your own OP, you'll find it.

Myriads
 
I'm sure you'll catch a lot of flak for this post- which is completely stupid. I'm not a guy but I'll put my 2 cents in for what it's worth.

It IS possible for you to be straight and get a kick out of tickling someone the same gender. People here tend to be quick to jump on the "OMG IF YOU'RE WILLIG TO DO M/M YOU'RE GAY!" bandwagon. Screw them. If women are few and far between and you enjoy trying to break a guy and see who is the "alpha" as you put it- go for it. The people so opposed to m/m are the first in line for f/f most the time which makes 0 sense to me anyways....

Whatever makes you happy I say go for it- ps, nice bondage in the pic 😉
 
Are you weird? No. Are you gay or bi and in denial? Yes. So by all means be brave enough to enjoy your newly-embraced orientation, and have fun.
 
I don't think you are weird, and anyone that tells you, you are weird and gay are just wrong and you should ignore them.
 
So no, it's not unusual to have differing sexual and paraphilic orientations.

I agree with this....When I see m/m tickling I don't automatically think both are gay or bi, just like when I see f/f tickling I don't think it either.

I would imagine it happens more than you think, but some are probably afraid to share because of those who feel they need to tell you what your sexual orientation is.
 
Do not listen to the bullshit, if it feels good and you're not hurting anyone, go for it... forget labels and stereotypes, and small minded people that just like to hate on others. To thine own self be true..
 
I don't know if it is true or not, but I'm told that in prison most of the sexual assaults among inmates that are typically heterosexual for both assailant and victim. It was a third hand statement that I have never researched if it is true or not. The person who told me this said that the act was done for dominance not sexual gratification. I'm not equating or analogizing a prison rape with m/m. I'm only observing that if one can be both straight and a rapist in prison one could probably be straight and do m/m. Not my thing personally. Just sayin'.
 
Are you weird? No. Are you gay or bi and in denial? Yes. So by all means be brave enough to enjoy your newly-embraced orientation, and have fun.

I have tons of respect for you so I feel like doing a little joke just for fun

Now we know some people have a certain like for spanking. We both know certain guys have a certain like for spanking beautiful women (lucky them).

I would just like to ask:
If said guys ever get into a fight with other guys and start dominating and punching a poor fellow.....should we logicaly proclaim these guys to be either gay or bi?
Again, if said people ever discipline a child by very mild spanking...should we call them pedophiles? I think we may rather call them child abusers (based on the amount of spanking) but we need to research a bit more before we can say they have other interests in children.

Things can have very different context.

Even sex can!

Let us see for instance the idea of sex for business. Well, that one we know as prostitution and with good reason. But we also know they mostly dont feel "romanticaly" involved with their customers, whatever gender they may be and whatever talent they may have in phisically arousing the "professional". We also know that they can perform normal sexual relations with a boyfriend / girlfriend and still be "in business".

Should we also discuss Acting in general and sex scenes in particular?

Should we discuss massage therapy?

So, can we agree to disagree that humans are way complex and can deal with their bodies in plenty of ways that you probably dont want to be aware....me neither for some of them might I say.....but I know its just me and my education and not my "fully developed human mind" (should I have a fully developed one).
 
Personally I'm not, but to each their own. If you'e comfortable enough with your own sexuality to partake, then by all means go for it.
 
Sexual orientation and paraphilia orientation can be different as they operate on different psychologies.

They often line up, but not always.

So no, it's not unusual to have differing sexual and paraphilic orientations. I could go into a lot of blah-blah about how it all works and so on, but if you search similar threads as your own OP, you'll find it.

Myriads

This is fascinating, I will be reading for sure. Thanks for posting that. 🙂
 
If a free adult man in normal Western society cannot find a woman with whom to have sex for love or money, and uses this to justify turning to men for relief instead, he's bisexual. In contrast, in general, and in my own experience women's sexuality is more fluid.

The same applies to this fetish.

Nothing wrong with that, but let's call a spade a spade.


To address your other questions/observations:

I have tons of respect for you so I feel like doing a little joke just for fun

Now we know some people have a certain like for spanking. We both know certain guys have a certain like for spanking beautiful women (lucky them).

Thank you, but if she didn't insist, and if the reaction was not so delightful, I wouldn't nearly as much.

I would just like to ask:
If said guys ever get into a fight with other guys and start dominating and punching a poor fellow.....should we logicaly proclaim these guys to be either gay or bi

Depending on the degree of provocation, perhaps no, or perhaps yes, or perhaps the assailant is merely suffering from Tiny Cock Syndrome.

Again, if said people ever discipline a child by very mild spanking...should we call them pedophiles? I think we may rather call them child abusers (based on the amount of spanking) but we need to research a bit more before we can say they have other interests in children.

The average child is spanked by the average parent only as much as a normal person would judge necessary solely because he or she is being an unreasonable little shit or doing something dangerous or potentially so. I didn't like being hit when I was little but will have to concede, as any 'normal' adult would in retrospect, that sometimes it was an unfortunate necessity.

Things can have very different context.

Absolutely and see immediately above.

Even sex can!

Let us see for instance the idea of sex for business. Well, that one we know as prostitution and with good reason. But we also know they mostly dont feel "romanticaly" involved with their customers, whatever gender they may be and whatever talent they may have in phisically arousing the "professional". We also know that they can perform normal sexual relations with a boyfriend / girlfriend and still be "in business".

Firstly what is done for money is a slightly different case from that done strictly for pleasure, and secondly using an extreme exception to validate the mundane isn't logical, no matter what the deconstructionists say.

Should we also discuss Acting in general and sex scenes in particular?

OK, in my first Equity play (i.e. professional and for pay) aged 22, I played a full frontal nude love scene with an 'older woman' of 26 who was similarly unclad, and who not only had no interest in me sexually, but was even having an affair with the assistant stage manageress. Six evening performances and two matinees per week for the length of the run we convinced the audiences that we were absolutely crazy about one another. It was done for the benefit of the paying public, not our own, and as any professional will tell you, remembering lines, moves and timing either every night on stage, or on a film set with about 30 crew members running around doing their jobs extracts any vestige of sexuality from the proceedings.

Should we discuss massage therapy?
A qualified masseur/masseuse studies for a very long time to gain the qualification, and would be highly unlikely to risk disbarment by offering or acceding to requests for 'extras'.

So, can we agree to disagree that humans are way complex and can deal with their bodies in plenty of ways that you probably dont want to be aware....me neither for some of them might I say.....but I know its just me and my education and not my "fully developed human mind" (should I have a fully developed one).

Yes, we can agree to disagree. But I still hold fast to my opinion.
 
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In my mind, it depends on the function of tickling for the individual, i.e. if you view tickling merely as just one of many forms of foreplay you enjoy, then tickling has a sexual component in your libido. If you're aroused by tickling in and of itself, apart from intercourse or other traditional sex acts, then it's not "sexual" in terms of sexual attraction. This is why I get irritated with those who tie tickling with intercourse when talking about tickling (yeah, I know tickling means what it means for each individual). This causes confusion with people like Merciless, who just want to do their thing but feel stigmatized or "weird" because of it. I'm betting 99.9 percent of us have been made to feel stigmatized or weird because of our tickling fetish, so we need not pile more baggage onto it.
 
It isn't sexual; it's more just the "who's more alpha male"/"can I break this person?" kind of curiosity.
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May I draw you hater's attention to the quote above- IT S NOT SEXUAL. As we know for some tickling is always sexual, others it's not. Just because he's comfortable enough in his sexuality to have a session with a guy does not make him in denial about being gay or bi. How about we stop trying to tell him he is and get back on topic huh? Geez louise.
 
There has already been a thread or two to discuss this but most of it is people debating each other on what it means for your sexuality. For me, I couldn't do it. I'd rather go without than do this to a guy, because to me that is in fact gay. As to whether or not you're gay, identify however you want, but I certainly have my doubts as do many others. I for one can't tie and tickle someone in a non-sexual way. I may not do anything conventionally sexual but for me it is a sexually gratifying experience, and I am repulsed at the idea of doing it to another man. I imagine that's why many other men have strong opinions on the matter.
 
So judging by other peoples very wise responses, I have made a decision to stop watching sports. All the athletes playing team sports must be gay because they are doing something with other guys. Ewwww homo freaks. Oh wait, maybe playing sports is not sexual for the players, so they aren't all gay after all.

If tickling females is sexual to you and you get sexual gratification doing it with guys too, then yes I agree you would be considered bi to me. However if its just something you do for fun...like all those athletes....then no harm no foul and enjoy yourself.
 
Your orientation is biological and has nothing to do with actions. A gay man can sleep with a woman if he desires, he's still gay. A straight girl can experiment with lesbianism in college (I have many friends who did) and they are still straight. Your orientation does not change because a member of the same gender rubs their fingers on your skin. How absolutely ridiculous does that sound? By the logic that most people express here, any girl who is tickled by another girl in a fet video is a lesbian. though obviously that isn't true.
 
So judging by other peoples very wise responses, I have made a decision to stop watching sports. All the athletes playing team sports must be gay because they are doing something with other guys. Ewwww homo freaks. Oh wait, maybe playing sports is not sexual for the players, so they aren't all gay after all.

If tickling females is sexual to you and you get sexual gratification doing it with guys too, then yes I agree you would be considered bi to me. However if its just something you do for fun...like all those athletes....then no harm no foul and enjoy yourself.

Ohh most people would not be brave enough to share a bath with their soccer teammates.
Might be someone will slap you because you missed a goal and they may do it in your but just for pun and to ridicularize you.
It actually becomes worst if they know you have a big issue with it.

I was lucky enough never to be on the wrong side of stuff like this. I would always make friends fast inside the teams and would even try and stop this kind of stuff from happening.
But believe me, boys can often be really harsh after a game when they are all naked together. And there´s really nothing you can do. And most likely it wont even be the gay guys doing this stuff. Those will usually play it safe and hide as best they can. It´s really the most "alpha ones" that are really into this kind of domination / agression / see others suffer.

I still dont like other guys touching me because I was raised like that and it feels not natural to me.

But...I have seen plenty of guys who were ok with it to a point that would surely disgust many around here. And believe me, I know for sure a couple of them were not even bi! By no means!!!
 
May I draw you hater's attention to the quote above- IT S NOT SEXUAL. As we know for some tickling is always sexual, others it's not. Just because he's comfortable enough in his sexuality to have a session with a guy does not make him in denial about being gay or bi. How about we stop trying to tell him he is and get back on topic huh? Geez louise.

I absolutely agree. It's incredibly bothersome that in this day and age the idea of straight men tickling other men must mean an instant sexual gratification. That's not the case with everyone.

Another quote that really bothered me is the false claim made by someone else that gayness is a learned trait. Baloney. I knew I was different from other boys at age 5 and NO ONE taught me anything about sex. This was especially true when at age 10, I had an erection and spectacular wet dream about tickling and having anal sex with one of my male friends. I was taught nothing about gayness, anal sex, or anything remotely connected to what it was to be gay by that time. However, I was smart enough to know that I must have had a sexual attraction to the same sex.
 
No , its not gay..its not bi.....imo , if both parties set rules and boundaries that both agree on , its just TICKLING. Man homophobes make me laugh
 
Just as an observation, I don't see anybody hating on the guy who started this thread. A question was asked. Opinions were invited. It used to be that one could express the opinion that m/m tickling is gay without being dog-piled by the intolerant self-righteous. That day is long gone, it seems. The irony is that those who associate such an expressed opinion as "hate" or "insult," are making an undeniable inference that being gay is a bad or shameful thing. It isn't. And identifying a behavior as indicative of homosexuality or bisexuality is not an expression of "hate." So how about some of you gay rights activists climb down off your high horses and join the rest of us down here on Earth?

Is it really that outlandish to regard m/m tickling as homoerotic? We're talking about a dude tying up another dude and using his fingers to stimulate the other guy's nerve endings to evoke a response of pleasure (laughing). Forgive my saying, but that doesn't seem all that "Alpha Male" to me.
 
Just as an observation, I don't see anybody hating on the guy who started this thread. A question was asked. Opinions were invited. It used to be that one could express the opinion that m/m tickling is gay without being dog-piled by the intolerant self-righteous. That day is long gone, it seems. The irony is that those who associate such an expressed opinion as "hate" or "insult," are making an undeniable inference that being gay is a bad or shameful thing. It isn't. And identifying a behavior as indicative of homosexuality or bisexuality is not an expression of "hate." So how about some of you gay rights activists climb down off your high horses and join the rest of us down here on Earth?

Is it really that outlandish to regard m/m tickling as homoerotic? We're talking about a dude tying up another dude and using his fingers to stimulate the other guy's nerve endings to evoke a response of pleasure (laughing). Forgive my saying, but that doesn't seem all that "Alpha Male" to me.


I for one don't see you as a "hater" or anything.You've expressed an opinion and it's an interesting one and I respect your point of view.

I do, however, think it's rather arbitrary for you to declare a person gay when he himself has said he isn't. I certainly don't think being gay is bad, but I just don't see why it's important for you that people identify with the orientation you assign to them. I don't that think that makes you a bad person or anything, I just think sexuality is more fluid for some people than you believe it to be.

I can say I have had plenty of F/F fantasies myself, and I've been married to a man for over 20 years. No one demands that I come out of the closet as a lesbian.
 
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