are you paying too much for your vids??

[amkes]

lol this tread went sooo off topic but glad to see people are enjoying themselves.

but remember guys the question is are people getting there moneys worth from videos they buy. so is there videos that say they are 9 minutes for 9.99 but there is a opening and credits that takes up 2 to 4minutes so there is only 7 to 5 minutes of tickling.

 

[SoleMates]

but remember guys the question is are people getting there moneys worth from videos they buy.

Unfortunately it's not actually possible to answer that question, because everyone has a different definition of "money's worth". The only answer is... "some do, some don't". And unfortunately, the realities of the business are such that it's not really possible to alter the pricing structure without ditching Clips4Sale, which the vast majority of us can't really do.

 

[jujimbo]

Around +/- €50 a month. But when I do I usually buy quality.

 

[amkes]

I already stated at the begining the meaning of moneys worth that I am asking about is dollar per minute or dollar per minute+. not if the content of a producers film is any good. for if I was asking that the answers would be all over the place and that could start a argument I rather not be part of

 

[Franky]

Personally, I think the fetish clips in question are ridiculously cheap. My reason is simple, the amount of people who do purchase these clips are less than everyone who is a tickle fetishist or almost one, but that doesn't change the amount of money needed to produce a "legit" fetish clip aka not a potentially candid cam type. So, unless the person(s) who purchased the clip were able to "collectively" reimburse the producer for all expenditure incurred in the making of the clip the clip is essentially cheap. Though, I can only hope that the clientele enjoyed it enough to watch it more than once.
But, I will point out I can see how the price thing may bug some people especially those who have not had to spend a lot more money on their fetish collections at some point in time.

And a little food for thought, if you were informed about a new movie coming out either to theaters or DVD/Blu-ray that had a brief tickle involving the lead actor/actress (your preference) would it influence you to get the movie or see it in theaters? If you said yes, then you are paying how much for a second or two of tickling?
And I will admit I'm definitely guilty of this, but I usually enjoyed the movie as a whole.

 

[SoleMates]

I already stated at the begining the meaning of moneys worth that I am asking about is dollar per minute or dollar per minute+. not if the content of a producers film is any good. for if I was asking that the answers would be all over the place and that could start a argument I rather not be part of

Yeah, except that as we already pointed out, the rates are set by Clips4Sale beyond a certain point, and this "dollar per minute" benchmark you're stuck on is going to be a matter of opinion, because not everyone has the same opinion of whether or not "filler" belongs in a video.

So there's really nothing to discuss. Sorry if yet another thread bitching about the quality of our videos didn't go off on the ranting tangent you'd hoped.

And if that sounds snarky, it's meant to be. It boggles my mind just how much people nitpick and complain about this stuff. I mean, Christ... most of these clips cost as much as a value meal at a fast food restaurant. I make thirty goddamn dollars a month off of my business and people are still howling about how they're not getting their "money's worth" because we tried to put a little humor into the video and do those interviews and scenarios that the other customers keep complaining that we leave out.

Oh, one more thing; some of those credits are mandated by law. We HAVE to post 18USC2257 notices and we HAVE to have them displayed for a certain length of time and in certain ways. So if you're going to sit there with a stopwatch trying to decide how much of your money is being "wasted", you can blame the government for about a dollar's worth.

 

[amkes]

Yeah, except that as we already pointed out, the rates are set by Clips4Sale beyond a certain point, and this "dollar per minute" benchmark you're stuck on is going to be a matter of opinion, because not everyone has the same opinion of whether or not "filler" belongs in a video.

So there's really nothing to discuss. Sorry if yet another thread bitching about the quality of our videos didn't go off on the ranting tangent you'd hoped.

And if that sounds snarky, it's meant to be. It boggles my mind just how much people nitpick and complain about this stuff. I mean, Christ... most of these clips cost as much as a value meal at a fast food restaurant. I make thirty goddamn dollars a month off of my business and people are still howling about how they're not getting their "money's worth" because we tried to put a little humor into the video and do those interviews and scenarios that the other customers keep complaining that we leave out.

Oh, one more thing; some of those credits are mandated by law. We HAVE to post 18USC2257 notices and we HAVE to have them displayed for a certain length of time and in certain ways. So if you're going to sit there with a stopwatch trying to decide how much of your money is being "wasted", you can blame the government for about a dollar's worth.

I do video editing and there are plenty of producers on here that have there credits on there vids only last 6 seconds and it is perfectly still is perfectly legal but there are plenty of producers that have credits lasting 2 to 4 minutes. and why is that?? it serves no purpose. the 18USC2257 notices you say you need only needs to be up for about 3 seconds, enough to see it and pause the vid to read it. but other then that you get producers that feel lets do a MGM opening with my stores name, and then I will make it different from my companies name so I need to add that and then let me add in a title to so that will be lets say 3 minutes of "filler" thats what I am complaining about not that there isn't wall to wall tickling. read my posts before going on a tangent on how you hate people like me for complaining about there not being tickling threw out the whole thing. I didn't say that. thats why I put the note stating I didn't want to hear a producer saying it is there right. thats fine you want to make story lines and stuff I love vids with good story lines. I don't like spending my money on a vid and it is just screen after screen of BS. ohh I am tickling blank(30sec), my company name is shitting dudes(1min), the models names are Star and Rage(10 sec), and the name of the video is laughing girls(30sec). ok now I will also run all this info at the end again. the vid is 15 min. and I got now 4 min and 20sec of filler great clips for sale allows me to sell this 19 minute clip for 15.99 to 25.99 hmmm Ill sell it for 20.99 and lengthen the filler a bit more, instead of making it 15.99 like I should since I added all this crap to pad it. understand you could have done all that by cutting the times down to 3 seconds each which would result in 12 second added to the vid show it at the end or the beginning and still charged the 15.99 or 16.99 and wow costumer can complain about the content but they got a dollar a minute. which is a fair price. I mean you claim vids on clips for sale are like fast food restaurants??? but no they aren't they are like eating at a well known restaurant. and movie theaters are the fast food restaurants. only fetish and porn producers get to charge a dollar per minute and everyone is happy. you should be more then happy about that. try making a a 120min vid and sell it only for $13, that is a fast food restaurant meal. not of here is a 13 min vid for 13.99. so your post here complaining is pointless since you are doing better then hollywood producers who spent thousands of dollars going to school to only charge you $10-20 to watch 120 min of video. and the only credit you need in a vid is the 18USC2257 notices but only if you are doing something other then tickling in a vid. plenty of producers don't have it in there vid and are legal.

see this is the sort of rant I didn't want to go on. but I should have known a producer would come on here to make the argument that I am complaining about the content of videos. I am not complaining about what type of tickling vid you make on the unnecessary length of some producers credits and why people find it ok for one producer to do it and complain about another even if the one they are complaining about has less filler then the one they are bragging about???

 

[Franky]

Umm... Amkes, comparing a Hollywood movie to a fetish clip is worse than comparing apples to oranges. The reason Hollywood can sell their movies at the price they do is because they have a significantly larger paying clientele comparatively to any fetish clip. And usually while the movie is in theaters determines if they loose, break even , or make money off the movie which is why they usually have larger budgets comparatively to any other form of distribution.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about;
$100 to produce clip (hypothetical pricing)
$5 to purchase clip (hypothetical pricing)
If less than 20 people purchase clip the price of the clip is not justified to be sold at the asking price.
If exactly 20 people purchase the clip the price is justified for covering the cost of production.
If more than 20 people purchase the clip the price is justified for covering the cost of production and turn a profit.
If approximately a 100 people purchased the clip the price is justified for covering the cost of production, turn a profit, and begin to start a "rainy day fund" incase a future clip or two do not break even in sales or lead to an increase in budget for future clips.

Now if the majority of clips sold for $5 consistently are purchased on an average by more than 100 people with few to no clips making less than what it cost to make can justify lowering some clip prices or to provide free extra/bonus content in future clips.

And on a side note, the reason sites like clips4sale have at least a minimum price for certain file requirements is rather simple. A short clip typically (depending on overall quality) will take up less space than a longer clip in cyber land and in cyber land file storage costs money as well as data transfers. And there is the amount of traffic their site can handle, again money dictates how much traffic they can handle and all sorts of other nitpicky computer lingo that basically comes down to if they don't make a certain amount of money per a certain amount of data stored and transferred the site would not be able to stay in business.

Hope this helps and clarifies a few points. And no I do not know a thing about the rules and regulations of credits and other such stuff.

 

[The Last Laugh]

see this is the sort of rant I didn't want to go on.

So why did you?

 

[the tickleshow]

lol this tread went sooo off topic but glad to see people are enjoying themselves.

but remember guys the question is are people getting there moneys worth from videos they buy. so is there videos that say they are 9 minutes for 9.99 but there is a opening and credits that takes up 2 to 4minutes so there is only 7 to 5 minutes of tickling.

I used to hate that when I'd order VHS videos back in the 90s. My "credits" are never more than 10 seconds in the beginning and at the end, and that's only on the DVDs. The downloaded clips, with VERY few exceptions, have NO credits at all.