bye folks

[jk666uk]

she come back they always do

 

[Oddjob0226]

After posting a few questions here and in a few other forums what I have found was that out of thousands of views.....i didn't get much response.
I can understand if what I make isn't your cup. I can understand if it's price too high, Hell I can even understand if you just didn't find me attractive...... but to not get a single reply as to how to make the content better?
thats just weird usually I at least get answers like "while you look nice enough, I am not into pantyhose" and then at least I can start guaging how the community feels about content.

I know she's left the site, but I'll respond as if she's still reading these posts and has not deleted the bookmarks from her toolbar as she says, because it will make me feel good -

I have never gotten an e-mail or PM from you. No interaction on any social level. Have no idea who you are. How many people have posted right here that they didn't even know who you are? And FIVE threads is your tolerance threshold of this website, apparently. So, we can assume that you didn't come here to get to know us, or join us in our reindeer games - you came here strictly to get our money? And you're whining at us because we didn't help you out in your demographic marketing research. Do you want to know what I like? Do you find ME attractive? Do you want to have fun, discuss, and tickle, without keeping your eye on the $$ meter while its running?

Take a look at all of the other tickling media producers out there. Notice how many of them have taken years to get where they are today. See that they offer more than one item to sell, and that they generally create a variety of things for a variety of people in this fetish scene. And perhaps you'll discover that so many of the producers are also members of the community. In other words, while they make a product to sell, they also share tickling discoveries & media here on the forum, they post jokes, they chat, PM and e-mail. They post questions, answers and opinions here. They attend gatherings. They don't just see the rest of us as a bank, and then complain to us when their venture into the free market economy is a bust. You're hanging out with the wrong trusted friends. Hire a marketing firm.

 

[Redmage]

Hm. Apparently she made a total of 5 posts in two weeks - four on one thread in the links section, and this one here. And she's got her nose out of joint because no one rushed to reply?

All I can say is, oh well.

 

[ViperGTS]

Interesting. I pulled this once before.

"OMG, i'm not getting enuff attention and I feel lonely here so BYEKTHX!"

 

[Fire_Sprite]

Well I doubt I would interact with her anyway. From the looks of things her interest in tickling is purely financial. She talks about us like we're one fetish forum in a hundred she could use. If she was never going to be part of the community in the first place then why bother trying to convince her to stay?

 

[asutickler]

Our community already has more content producers than you can shake a stick at. You can't expect to just post a link to your site and have the entire forum beat a path to your webspace.

As with any business, you have to work at giving your potential customers a reason to view or purchase your material. Showing up and saying "I'm here!" isn't going to cut it. Also, you don't need "feedback" to tailor your product to the needs of your potential customers. This entire forum is chock-full of people expressing their opinions in regards to what they like, dislike, or feel indifferent about. A little research goes a long way.

 

[Vae]

Booya, Asu, for not sugar coating. 😉

 

[isabeau]

Interesting. I pulled this once before.

"OMG, i'm not getting enuff attention and I feel lonely here so BYEKTHX!"

wowow nice viper but you know i almost agree with you. the way to get noticed, if thats what you want, is post post post on everything you are interested in. what i;'ve done is to butt my way in, whether people want me or not. heck just post, if people pay attention great if not, still great, at least you are expressing your thoughts and opinions. also if you are just here to sell things, i have to agree with what the others are saying.

isabeau

 

[The Sean Man]

Wahhh freakin' wahhh

 

[Butterfly wings]

With only 5 posts and your leaving us already?

Well i'm sorry to see you go evangeline. I hope you re-think things through and decide to come back. But for now good luck.

 

[RobAce]

I agree with about 75% of posts on this thread..except for 1 thing. It seems most people here become concerned with the male to female ratio which is something like 60/40 male to female and usually whenever a female unlurks she is BOMBARDED with PM's and offers of tickling till she cant take it anymore. Now we had a WOMAN (female) who even went as far as to make a tickling video to help her into the community and now after 2 weeks and 5 posts she is gone.
Now far be it from me, someone who has been around over 10 years in this community, to be critical of anything...but (notice my BUTT it looks good does it not...) Someone who is truly one of us (tickle fetishist) simply would not give up this soon. I think she was looking to make some money and made a huge mistake by not posting in the most often viewed placed, clips forum, disscusion forums and the like. Oboviously this freind was more of a "manager" or "business associate" or if he knew of this community he would know how to get the biggest reaction from us. I for one am an enthusiast at heart...I can smell a fake or a "tweener" (What some of us older members call those that "cater" to the tickling fetish out of love of money not love of tickling) that goes inbetween many fetishs but is not exculsive and offers some decent material once in awhile but you can tell when the "model" isnt into it. Personally for me I dont like "models" I prefer the term "ticklee", I when I hear "model" I assume its a pretty girl, who can laugh on cue and mildly to moderately ticklish in real life. Which is why my dollars have gone to a very select few (Id say maybe 5) companies over the last 10 years. She seemed worried about her apperance...but I dont think thats the case..so whats she seemed a little heavy...many of the girls on here are but most of us care about the feet and the tickling...youve got a nice pair of peds and a great laugh..unless your Shamu in a bikini most of the intelligent men here that enjoy pure tickling will get over most attractiveness issues. After all nowadays a drop dead beautiful woman being tickled is a dime a dozen. But a drop dead ticklish woman being tickled is rare.
If you come and read these evangeline I hope you take to heart if you are one of us the things a lot of people said with good intentions. No one is trying to run you off and no one has ill fellings. But remember if you are not one of us and meerly doing this to make a few fast dollars eventually people would have noticed and thus you did yourself a favor by leaving instead of being ridiculed and eventually ignored. I have seen literally 100's of fly by night producers come and go in my long history in this community, you certainly are not the 1st and wont be the last. For anyone reading this thread and are thinking of doing your own videos (my wife and I had discussed it, but to us its a very special thing and it doesnt translate well to video..well the tickling really does but she nor I would be comfortable with our faces or in her case feet all over the internet.) take this as a lesson in marketing. Study your group...observe them, then make the move. Dont jump in first and expect everything to come up roses.
At the same time gentlemen and ladies, she had 2,274 views for her 1 placement in the links section. I dont think Ive ever had a single post in my 10 years on here that got 1000 views let a lone 2,274. So I really dont think she understands the numbers of that..but at the same time 2,274 views with 7 written responses?!?! We can certainly do much better for someone who expresses they are new and are trying something. We spend so much time complaining about content and the lack of women youd think that people would have answered a little more. But I can not speak about or for everyone...I myself did not respond and did not notice because I never visit the links portion..but at least 2,274 looked at it. Perhaps next time a woman comes on making videos and introducing herself for the 1st time we will remember this episode and perhaps be a little more encouraging of her.. I know for one I will and I will visit the links forum a little more often than before.
But then again...maybe Im just cranky because I havent had my Cheese Danish yet this morning.....

Rob

 

[elfriend]

But then again...maybe Im just cranky because I havent had my Cheese Danish yet this morning.....

Rob

Yeah I know when I don't get my chocolate in the morning (I'm being serious by the way) I can be cranky later on

 

[evangeline]

So... we're supposed to feel guilty that most guys here don't view you a wack off material?

See....that's exactly what I'm talking about.
at least red jester had the balls to insult me in public as opposed to the mass who took to flaming my email box.

I wouldn't have returned if not for the fact that someone came on my forum and posted some of the replies and you guys left and i came here to explain....but ya know what.
After being spoken to like this.....


I guess you guys are doing just fine if you feel you can be this rude to someone who just wanted to share some videos and join in on some chat

enjoy your models guys.
hope they stay forever,
I hope y7ou never tire of your producers
because I will not be returning

I am accustomed to being treated better
(being a producer that actually interacts)
Many models don't bother being interactive and Because I am by nature very interactive, joining chat sessions, giving away free movies, organizing meetings, etc I am not used to either being ignored or being insulted.
I did not post my movies in other sections because that's not what those sections are for.
I posted in the appropriate section in respect for the moderators.

I was looking for a new fetish I share to cater to but you all have been too mean.
And also if your gonna slam me be a man and post it. don't flood my inbox with nasty messages.


For those who have been nice, and kind, you will always find my place a haven for you. All who are human are welcome to join and speak freely.
but after the reception I got I will not be back.
And if your gonna post negative things in my forum just because I won't be here to read it, please don't

 

[evangeline]

I think the point is that Tickle producers who survive in what has started to become a competitive market, are those that are genuine tickle fetishists themselves. Someone who is coming along to try and 'give us what we want', is probably not going to have much success. If you say you are deleting all your Tickling bookmarks, that would suggest to me you are not (yet anyway) one of us.

Rather than working your way through a host of other fetish communities (such as say Spanking etc.) with the same result, why not instead only cater for those communities for which you have a genuine interest.

well....lets just say that I never knew that this fetish existed and leave it at that.
I have been using tickle as a fantasy roleplay aspect for 5 years.

so while I am new to the internet fetish.....the actual hands on (no pun intended) has been here for awhile.

 

[Knox The Hatter]

Yo, Vange...

As long as you asked...

You get a model who's 5'9", 250 pounds, with long flowing hair all the way down to her hips, with a laugh perhaps just a tad eeeeeeeven more deep throated than Crydun's, with a bitchy attitude that can be melted like butter frying in a skillet from her sensitive tootsies being skillfully shrimped, then we certainly can do business!

Now, that's what I like.

 

[evangeline]

Well I doubt I would interact with her anyway. From the looks of things her interest in tickling is purely financial. She talks about us like we're one fetish forum in a hundred she could use. If she was never going to be part of the community in the first place then why bother trying to convince her to stay?

you have no clue.
perhaps i could send you 5 bucks and you could buy one
thicker skin that that on me babe.

 

[Deuce]

Well after that post I wouldn't hold your breath with people from here now. I don't think anyone was out of line only stating the fact that you can't expect to be able to retire on your one video after being a member here for 2 weeks. People in this thread took time out of there life to explaian to you why they didn't notice or buy your tape, now being in business for myself I don't see many people calling me a second time around if they don't hire me the first time around and I tell them I'm childish and piss'd you didn't use me like you just did,now I don't want to speek for anyone else in here but it's going to be a cold day in hell before I would buy anything from you now oh I may be temped to tie you up and only safeword I let you use is "I'm Sorry TMF" but I doubt I would even want to do that now. Now I did check Tickle Theater and that person was right you did the same thing there so how do you expect to increase your business when after 2 weeks you cut your nose off. Iwill leave you with this GROW UP

 

[isabeau]

instead of attacking those that criticized you, you could have acknowledged all the positive comments that you did receive. as you can see, this thread has reached three and possibly four pages by now. so you did make an impact. i hardly visit the clip forum, because i cant purchase them. sometimes i will view the previews.

isabeau

and as for the rude comments, there will always be those who prefer to be rude rather than otherwise. takes all kinds i guess to make the world spin. whatever you decide to do, good luck with it

 

[RobAce]

Rude is in the eye of the beholder....or is it beauty....at any rate what one person (Vange) sees as rude most of us see as just being honest. Id rather say something out right than to slip it in behind the back (I know bad way to say it, but you know what I mean you sickos.....)
Vange I noticed that you pulled a few comments out that were to a degree rude to you..but you failed to notice the majority of those that in a way defended you and asked you not to leave.
I know my post was not a flowery butt kissing rendetion of "Baby Come Back" but Im not PC, and I tell it like it is. But hopefully you noticed what I said last, and it was aimed to everyone here...and I think everyone reading this post in light of what happened (people emailing this woman and just being stupid) should read it....let me repost...

At the same time gentlemen and ladies, she had 2,274 views for her 1 placement in the links section. I dont think Ive ever had a single post in my 10 years on here that got 1000 views let a lone 2,274. So I really dont think she understands the numbers of that..but at the same time 2,274 views with 7 written responses?!?! We can certainly do much better for someone who expresses they are new and are trying something. We spend so much time complaining about content and the lack of women youd think that people would have answered a little more. But I can not speak about or for everyone...I myself did not respond and did not notice because I never visit the links portion..but at least 2,274 looked at it. Perhaps next time a woman comes on making videos and introducing herself for the 1st time we will remember this episode and perhaps be a little more encouraging of her.. I know for one I will and I will visit the links forum a little more often than before.

There enough said on the subject...except for this, those of you who decided to flame her email box.....THIS IS THE REASON WHY MANY WOMEN WHO MIGHT BE HERE NEVER TALK OR DELURK! They are afraid that if they dont submit, give every guy the time of day or engauge every single guy/girl or answer every PM or email that they will be treated like this, get flamed and then be ignored just because they dont particularly agree with someone else, or perhaps just dont find many people here as interesting as they find themselves. Its the ones that complain and complain about needing more women on the TMF that are often times (not always) the ones responsible for such ladies not comming on in the 1st place. For those of you who flamed I hope your proud of yourself....you had a woman offering videos and trying something new to talk with you, and you blew it. BIG TIME!
And for those women that are lurking and reading this...please do not let this display of complete and utter idiots flaming this woman by any means discourage you on comming out...there are plenty of GENTLEMEN here that would not only value another member...but another friend.

Rob

I hate idiots......

 

[Oddjob0226]

There enough said on the subject...except for this, those of you who decided to flame her email box.....THIS IS THE REASON WHY MANY WOMEN WHO MIGHT BE HERE NEVER TALK OR DELURK!

NO IT IS NOT! She was flamed becasue she came here, hardly tried to join in with the rest of us, gave up too quickly, and complained that we weren't spending our money on her one video fast enough with the miniscule amount of posts she made in a place on the form rarely visited. Then, she was leaving forever. Then she came back after leaving forever. (Do you guys see this??? She didn't know this was a fetish until recently! Like they said in The Music Man - "She doens't know the territory." Cal Star did their first video back in 1985! Howard Stern had the tickling chair in the early 90s! She doesn't get the 'traffic patterns' of the TMF and figures out where her posts would be most visible? Dwells on the negative replies & and not the positive ones? Gabba Gabba Hey - not one of us. They figure this kind of stuff out on 'Profiler'. ) Buy a clue? Dennis Miller used that back when he was still doing the news on SNL.

Ana is still around. As is Renee of Paradise Vision, Bella of Bella Risa, Little Redhead, and Mistress Stephanie Locke. While Pricilla James has moved on, TIB is still prodcuing great stuff with willing models, and I don't think he's faking it or in it only for the money. Terri at Sweet Southern Feet is still plugging away, as is Neecie at Feetishes. I know that Tickleshotel is wanting to star in a tickling video. All women, who both create tickling videos for sale, and interact one way or another in the community. AND don't catcall their potential audience when their videos don't catch on like wildfire. And none of them show the self-important pomposity that Eva has. And yet her business plan to compete for a market share is to lecture those of us who have been here for months, or years. She's not coming back? Fine, more of my money to the above ladies, who also chat, share opinions, make me laugh, make me think, and may one day even cross my path at a gathering. A lot of women get inundated with contacts (call that flaming if you will) becasue there is an out of whack ratio between men & women on this site. But the men aren't rude to be rude, they are desperate, which breeds the rudeness. Kind of like..... the starter of this thread. This was one of the rare and unusual cases where the flamee kinda sorta had it coming from her self-important hubris.

What's "being a man" by posting in a form that the original thread starter isn't even going to read? Being a man is finding her and enagging in the debate when she fires at us off the starbard bow and then runs towards the Azores. Someone posted comments on her website - that's what brought her back here. Someone "was a man" and took the battle to her. Maybe she should 'be a woman', learn from her potential market, apply, and follow up on what she started in the first place rather than deleting buttons on her toolbar. Filling her inbox was the only way to communicate with this runaway. I swear to Zeus that Evangeline is Margaret Dumont reincarnated. Well, I guess she's gone for good....for the second time.

 

[Prime]

I am accustomed to being treated better
meetings, etc I am not used to either being ignored or being insulted.

Welcome to the real world. I'm sure there are other places that will be more than happy to fall all over you and give you the attention you so badly crave. Good luck in your travels...your going to need it.

 

[ViperGTS]

I am accustomed to being treated better
meetings, etc I am not used to either being ignored or being insulted.

Welcome to the real world. I'm sure there are other places that will be more than happy to fall all over you and give you the attention you so badly crave. Good luck in your travels...your going to need it.

QFE

Life sucks. So do you. Byekthx.

 

[MrMacphisto]

I watched the vidclip... she's attractive, but not very ticklish at all... That kind of defeats the purpose of releasing a tickle video, doesn't it?