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Could non-consensual tickling be considered rape or sexual harassment?

Mehcookie

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Could tickling be considered rape if it's non-consensual? I mean, only one person is gaining sexual pleasure while the other suffers.
Think about it.
 
In the workplace, any touching can be considered sexual harassment if it is undesired by the person who was touched.

In the world at large, it would certainly be simple assault (although some DA's would not give a high priority to prosecuting it).

I can't see it as rape.
 
It would be considered assault. And it can land one in jail just as easily as if you punched a person in the snoot.

Myriads
 
The legal definition of rape has nothing to do with how many people are experiencing sexual pleasure. Rape is defined as penetration. The others are correct that this would be assault in the eyes of the law.
 
Well obviously it's assault if the person keeps doing it when the person says stop and its clearly unwanted.
 
ZOMG THE NON CON DEBATE STARTS AGAIN!!!! CLIQUE WARS!!!! EAST SIDE!!!! WEST SIDE!!!!!! SHEMP!!!! NO SEE YES SEE!!!! WOO HOO!!!!!
 
Non-Con is one of those issues that seems to rear its head about 5 times in a year. I stand firm against Non-Con at its strict definition. If the person doesn't want it or has said stop then you stop period

However, if it is a video producer who has disclosed information of what may happen to the person then it is fine. That would eliminate it from being Non-Con by definition but video producers are very intelligent on making it look real. The person hates being tickled a lot, but agrees to do a shoot. During the shoot, the person screams, cusses, and yells different words (I suppose safe words) but it doesn't stop.

Now for your questioning of rape. No, it is not rape in any sort of way. It is sexual assault, harassment, and can land you in prison (at the very least cost you a pretty penny).

If you have read my posts in the political forums then you know my disdain towards Neo-Cons. Well, in this community I feel the exact same towards Non-Con interactions and videos. I'm not judging anyone else for their cup o' tea, but it is the exact opposite of what I like. I am into sensual/erotic tickling more then torture/Non-Con.
 
It would be considered assault. And it can land one in jail just as easily as if you punched a person in the snoot.
The legal definition of rape has nothing to do with how many people are experiencing sexual pleasure. Rape is defined as penetration. The others are correct that this would be assault in the eyes of the law.

This about sums it up. There is not a whole lot to discuss here I think.
 
here in illinois the charge is "devient sexual assualt". on the justice scale it falls just below the level of rape and higher that fellony battery. it aint woth getting that simple tickle with this hanging over you.

steve
 
Are you talking about a little tickle is worse than beating the $h!t out of someone? Or do you mean like actual prolonged, torturous tickling?
 
Saw this thread and decided to post this link. It's regarding how to win a tickle fight and when it can become a illegality under section 12.1. Bear in mind that I am no attorney, laws in each state and jurisdiction will vary and in no way should this information be considered accurate legal information:

http://www.wikihow.com/Win-a-Tickle-Fight

As far as rape, wouldn't it also depend on where the person was being tickled and whether that area was tickled from either outside or inside the victims clothes? I am not a attorney or in anyway experienced in law, so I don't know.
 
As far as rape, wouldn't it also depend on where the person was being tickled and whether that area was tickled from either outside or inside the victims clothes?

No. Rape HAS to include penetration. Without that, it is never rape.
 
So if some began to tickle me, and didn't stop when asked.......... It would feel like a violation.

Same thing for me...it would be the same feeling as if someone grabbed my boobs.
 
It would be considered assault. And it can land one in jail just as easily as if you punched a person in the snoot.

Myriads


There's a big difference between punching someone in the face and tickling them.

Physical assault will get the attention of the system: restraining orders, convictions, lawsuits, etc.
Tickling will get you absolutely none of that.

I, for one, would like to see you back up this claim with one example ... just ONE, where someone actually went to jail in the U.S. for tickling another person.
(a Google search produced one article of very questionable nature where a guy from Uganda got 5 years. No names, nothing. It was maybe 2 sentences long)

I've done it plenty of times and the worst that happened was they were pissed off.

Short of kidnapping and sexual assault, tickling isn't even on the radar when it comes to the law. Bondage against their will would probably have to be involved.
If it's consensual bondage in a play situation, all bets are off.

If it's a woman tickling a man, you'll be laughed at by anyone who'll even listen to you.

Damn ... this place is crawling with legal experts and jailhouse lawyers.
 
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People are often unclear about the meaning of "assault," and often confuse it with "battery." Assault doesn't involve any physical contact. It is the threat of physical violence. Once contact has been made, it is "battery." During the height of the "sexual harassment" craze, some shysters have tried to bend the meaning of assault to include "any uninvited touch," which I'm sure you'll agree is a pretty radical redefinition. And there have been one or two judges over the years to rule as such, but I sure wouldn't want to be the attorney to have to prosecute such frivolities.

If you just tickle the ribs of a stranger for two seconds, it's unlikely that even Robert Morgenthau could get a conviction. However, if the tickler restrains his victim in any way, even with his own two hands, that's assault AND battery.

If a guy tickles his DATE non-consensually, that makes it even harder to get a conviction.

Though there have been lots of threads about this topic, I think the best one is this one:

www.ticklingforum.com/showthread.php?86735-Foot-Tickling-at-Water-Park

It covers the whole issue of "assault" plus other relevant points.
 
During the height of the "sexual harassment" craze, some shysters have tried to bend the meaning of assault to include "any uninvited touch," which I'm sure you'll agree is a pretty radical redefinition.

Where I work at, the annual sexual harassment/assault training tells you that it could be considered sexual harassment/assault if you just touch someone's shoulder or arm or tell someone "you look nice in this dress". I wonder every time if they are serious about that.
 
My use of 'punch in the snoot' was probably a cute phrase I should have drowned on edit.

Let's try again.

By base definition Non-Con anything means you are doing something to another person that is without their consent. (Duh!)

In the last two decades the act of touching another person (violation of close personal space) has become a hot button issue in the realm of Bullying, Threatening, Intimidating, and so forth. The law has reacted in making it an area that is very open to litigation. Most of it in the area of 'sexual harassment'.

Will you get tossed in the jug if you tickle a random person? Probably not. Will you possibly get stuck in law suit? A restraining order? Some other bit of legal idiocy that will cost you dearly in time and coin? Good chance. Get tagged with a sexual offender status by a DA who is looking to make a name? Possibly.

But you know what? The bottom line is simple.

Don't touch people who you don't know.

Get your non-con fixes in written and filmed fiction. That is where they live.

Myriads
 
This topic has been discussed many times before. Try to search for "non-consensual" and read the earlier threads before you make a new one...
 
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