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disproportional amount of heavy set women into tickling?

Majority of the US prison population is black? You'd be mistaken sir. Disproportional amount of blacks in prison relative to their population within the US, yes. More, no.
 
So, going BACK to the original question posted and away from the blazing shit storm that is about to happen and is for the most part completely off topic.
Here is MY observations.

From what I have seen over the past decade-ish of the kink communities, fetish events, play parties, etc that I have attended they have been quite the mixing bowl of people of height/weight ratios. Also, the thinner ones do tend to get more attention, but keep in mind this also has to do with them being younger around the early 20s, and not bad looking in general. Another thing you may have over looked is that its no secret that when your average person gets older they do tend to gain some extra weight. With that said, I have noticed about equal amounts if not more thinner vs BBW in the TNG groups aka the under 35 groups. Comparatively to the 18 and older general kink crowd that tends to have more people in the 30s and up. Also, if you are going by the standard BMI then most people would be considered BBWs regardless of their muscle to fat ratio.

And I know that I used the term "BBW," but my intent is for it to apply to all genders. And my observation is from RL not online pics.
 
NY ler said:
please, I'm not being rude but simply making an observation... especially on fetlife, and I know that is not a tickling site, but a kink site, but incredible percentage of women there are bbw.
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Economics 101 - Supply and Demand

Thin / in-shape / somewhat attractive (purely speculative term) females are in higher demand than overweight / obese / BBWs.

The laws of Supply and Demand dictate the skinny mini is in higher demand.

There are less of them on the shelf to choose from, especially in Fetish Forums.

Thus the over-abundance of, ahem ... *robust* women on fetish forums such as FetLife.

Hope this helps clear things up.

Class dismissed!
 
It doesn't surprise me that people are getting all worked up about this, but I don't think it's that serious. The OP really wasn't offensive in any way. People say all the time, "Why are there so many more guys into tickling than girls?" That's not saying "OMGIHATEGUYSGETTHEMOUTOFHEREGROSSMOARWOMENNAO!" It's just saying, "Wow, look. There are 10 guys here and 3 chicks. I wonder why." Same goes for related fetishes. Foot fetish people run rampant around here, as do bondage folks. Noticing that trend doesn't mean I don't like it. It just means I saw it and wondered where it came from.

Now, to address the OP more directly, I haven't noticed that trend, actually. Myriads made a good point that it matters exactly what you mean by "heavyset." Some guys think anybody bigger than Mila Kunis is heavyset, while others would call girls up to and including Jennifer Hudson as "curvy" and anyone bigger than that would be considered heavy. If you fall into the former category, you're going to notice a lot more heavyset girls simply because you consider more girls heavyset. Not to mention most of the population is overweight to begin with.

Regardless of where you draw the line, personally I don't really see a size trend in the population of the community at all.
 
Before I make my post.. I want to make clear that I am NOT posting this to "pour gasoline on the fire", so to speak, or to cause a problem. I'm merely posting my opinion.

I honestly think that the OP's wording of "A disproportional amount of heavyset women into tickling" is a generalization. I personally don't care for generalizations.

As to the definition of "Heavyset". When I think of the word "Heavyset", I personally think of a person, male or female.. that is at least.. considerably overweight. When I was in HS, my ex best friend and I always had a "saying",. as it may be.. that a girl who was a little.. or somewhat.. overweight.. would be termed by us as "Slightly Chunky".

I'm quite certain there are women of all sizes and shapes who are into tickling. Perhaps.. the OP was speaking from his own personal experience.. that he personally has found the women he's encountered who are into tickling to be "Heavyset". I'm sure the same is not always true for all men.. in regard to all the women they might have encountered, who are into tickling.
 
I see that my opinion is in the minority... I'm really grateful for your thoughtful responses, guys, thanks!
 
Lots of good points brought up here.

I'll give my opinion, based on real life experience and statistics. Bear in mind I am mostly speaking about the fetish community in general, not just tickling.

First of all, according to the CDC online, almost 70% of the adults in the USA are classed as overweight, and from what I have seen the same statistics hold true for the fetish community, both men and women. I have seen the same ratio in TNG, which means The Next Generation and is for kinksters under-35, groups as well as older gatherings. I do believe the percentage of overweight kinksters (and vanillas) is slightly lower in large cities, where people are more likely to have to walk a lot rather than drive everywhere. I have not noticed a greater proportion of overweight people at tickling events as opposed to general fetish events.

Secondly, I would, as others did, ask the OP what he classifies as "heavyset" as it would help me to understand where he is coming from. A lot of men get a skewed perception of normal from watching porn/tickling videos, or attending foot parties, etc, because the majority of those women are chosen to appeal to a mainstream ideal, or fantasy, if you will, which does not reflect what the average woman actually is.

Thirdly, I don't really agree with the comment someone made about more of the smaller women being in relationships and therefore not being "on the shelf"- as Fetlife is not a personals site, but rather a "Facebook of fetish" lots of those posting, and listing fetishes ARE in relationships (raises hand) Just because someone's listed a fetish on there doesn't mean they are looking for a person to do it with.

Fourthly, if the OP is correct about the percentage being a bit higher in tickling than in other fetishes or the vanilla world, there are a couple possible reasons. First of all, if you have bones near the surface of the skin, tickling can be kind of painful unless the ler' is extra careful/uses a light touch. A few bad experiences might put slimmer people off of it. Also, from my personal experience and from anecdotes I've heard- tickling fetishists tend to be more- how shall I say this nicely?- fixated, than other BDSMers. I don't really know why this is. Because of this, if a female tickle fetishist happens to fit this mainstream media standard of attractiveness, she is more likely to lurk, or in the case of Fetlife, not list tickling as a fetish to avoid unwanted or excessive attention. In addition- I have heard people say they are more ticklish after weight loss. They may then find tickling to be too intense.

And last of all- those that enjoy tickling but don't really have any other fetishes and are otherwise vanilla are much less likely to BE on Fetlife than general BDSMers. I would be interested in seeing if the OP's theory holds with examining those into other popular fetishes (say spanking, bondage, etc) and then comparing those results/percentages with, for instance, the contents of an average full subway car.
 
My meaning of heavyset, and I do realize that there are different body types, but if I had to quantify it, I'd say that any female who's 5'4 and weighs over 150.

Excellent points kitten.. my perception must be skewed due to watching tickling clips and seeing all those skinny models, I do realize that they're the minority and not representative of the population.
 
Why are there so many men who are cocky jerks? Why is there such a gap in the age population here? Why are there so many stereotypes? Why do some people have fetishes and some dont?

It's just how the world works. It's not like most "bbw" women are that way intentionally- granted yes some prefer themselves that way, but in general women dont set out to gain a bunch of weight and have views from narrowminded jerks put on them.... Just my opinion 🙂

ps- before anyone jumps on me, I wasnt calling the OP a narrow minded jerk- just the general shallow minded people- they all know who they are.
 
NY ler, the only impression I get from this thread is that if you looked at way over a thousand profiles on Fetlife, you're probably spending way too much time on there. :cool2:
 
BECAUSE WE ARE CUTER!

Hahaha I'm joking... I don't know.
But you can keep looking 😉 you will find something you like that's for sure.
Belieeeeve me you've not seen it all!

ex ~ArianDiamond~
 
LOL well, NY ler, you've now learned one of the unwritten rules of TMF, namely, if you post "Are ___'s more ticklish [or into tickling] on average," you will be pounced upon. Don't feel bad. You'd be hard pressed to find anyone who posed such a question without a LOT of criticism in the responses. To respond to one of your questions, which I think you intended to be rhetorical, "if I asked whether African American women are more ticklish, would I be accused of being racist," the answer is, "yes."

I think it's fun to speculate, and I have no problem with anecdotal speculation, because we aren't publishing a study (which of course I'd gladly do if I thought I could get funding); we're just chatting on a forum. For whatever reason, I've found any Chinese women I've met to be crazy ticklish. I recognize that it is nowhere close to a statistically significant sampling (but it would be awesome if I could get to the point where it is!)

Regarding your question, I don't think that heavier women are more into our fetish. Sorry for a boring answer to an interesting question.
 
Rhiannon: how about you stick to the topic that is in the subject line

Chicago: awesome, honest response, thanks
 
Cheer up....I was trying to make a joke! But from my experience: I've seen girls into tickling in all shapes and sizes.
 
Just my observation.

For starters I just want to say that it irks me a bit to see posts, especially OP's responded with "why does it matter?"

Its a forum, the very nature of this place is to express opinions(all of which will be different), it's just an unnecessary way to start a fire fight.

That said NY Ler I personally have found that tickling fetishists, enthusiasts, however you wish to call them(the fetish community can be super detail oriented with labels so I hate to mislabel anyone) are pretty evenly split I guess.

I have found though that lifestyle players in the fetish world tend to fit the description of BBW(I'd rather have a less gender specific label because it absolutely includes males as well.)

The reason for this I think is the unique nature of the fetish world and the media in it as opposed to standard social environments and the media in that.

It's just simply easier to enter the media/modeling side of the fetish world than it is in standard social living. So I think we come to find that many of the fit and trim fetishists, especially the women, end up as models because it is just so easy to break into it. While BBW is of course a category in the fetish world, it is also a bit of a niche classification and so therefor many lifestyle players who fit that physical description simply remain lifestyle players. In this case they will be the ones who are socially accessible to you, hence your findings.

I say this from experience as my fiancée is a fetish model and many of our friends are as well. We recently attended fetishcon(our second in a row) and I actually noticed this among the attendees that many just happen to be overweight. Not everyone, but definitely a majority. I don't mean any offense by my observation, nor does the reality offend me, I just noticed it myself.

My only train of thought is just that simply the fetish world in general tends to fit that BBW type description based on my exposure to it(others may have a completely different experience, which is fine be me) and the ones who don't fit that BBW description tend to end up as models because it is just much easier to break into than standard modeling which is actually what my fiancée started as before going into fetish work.

So I don't really think its tickle fetishists being on the plus side so much as fetishists in general. I don't really know why that is, but it is something I have noticed being as exposed to it as I am on a regular basis. Perhaps it has to do with the fetish world being somewhat of a haven for many outcasts due to the alternative lifestyle, perhaps that creates less pressure for cosmetic appearance for those within this lifestyle. I don't know.

On one hand you'd think with the fetish world being so centered on activities utilizing the anatomy that fetishists would take extra care of their body both cosmetically and internally.

On the other hand, with so many fetish activities based on sensation and headspace, maybe that puts less of a premium on anything physically cosmetic.

No idea.

Sorry if anyone finds that offensive.
 
socalpunkrock said:
So I don't really think its tickle fetishists being on the plus side so much as fetishists in general. I don't really know why that is, but it is something I have noticed being as exposed to it as I am on a regular basis. Perhaps it has to do with the fetish world being somewhat of a haven for many outcasts due to the alternative lifestyle, perhaps that creates less pressure for cosmetic appearance for those within this lifestyle. I don't know.

On one hand you'd think with the fetish world being so centered on activities utilizing the anatomy that fetishists would take extra care of their body both cosmetically and internally.

On the other hand, with so many fetish activities based on sensation and headspace, maybe that puts less of a premium on anything physically cosmetic.

No idea.

Sorry if anyone finds that offensive.
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So, correct me if I'm wrong, you now are stating that BBW women are into fetishes ..... because they're outcasts? Yeah ... uh... no. I do NOT consider myself an outcast- and nor do half the people I'm friends with in the fetish world. Granted, as you said it's your opinion, but if what I deem you're implying is true- you seriously consider the reason that BBW women are into fetishes are because they're outcasts..... wow.
 
ticklemepls said:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, you now are stating that BBW women are into fetishes ..... because they're outcasts? Yeah ... uh... no. I do NOT consider myself an outcast- and nor do half the people I'm friends with in the fetish world. Granted, as you said it's your opinion, but if what I deem you're implying is true- you seriously consider the reason that BBW women are into fetishes are because they're outcasts..... wow.
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Actually, I think he is saying that a thin fetishist is more likely to be a model so she get paid, while the heavier fetishist will have a harder time getting paid and therefore go in a lifestyle direction. The reason it's not entirely clear is that he is trying to state his opinion but also couching/re-couching/softening/apologizing for it in an effort not to offend and receive responses trashing him.
 
So I think we come to find that many of the fit and trim fetishists, especially the women, end up as models because it is just so easy to break into it.
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Where in the world do you get that from? I would think it's only a tiny percentage of fetishists that end up as models - because most of them have such a thing as a totally vanilla life with a job, a partner and a family.

I also tend to think that in the states many fetishists are BBW because there are a hell of a lot more overweight people in the US than anywhere else. The German tickling scene is relatively small, and there is not a majority of BBW among them.
 
Rhiannon, im totally on the same page as you about the general population just being overweight.

As far as the modeling part, i think you misunderstand. I wasnt saying a majority of fetishists become models. I was saying that fit and trim fetishists are in the minority and of them many can and do become models. As per my experience anyway, like i said my fiancee is a fetish model and many of our friends who are models have basically attested to that. They were/are lifestyle fetishists but because they were trim by nature or by design, the modeling aspect became a very easy thing for them to transition into. Many of them abandoned their vanilla world and vanilla jobs in leiu of fetish modeling full time actually, including my fiancee.

Again, i dont think my experience is the same as everyones who is around or involved in the fetish world, but it is definitely common.

But yeah i just think you misunderstood what i was saying, i wasnt saying many fetishists become models, i was saying a majority of the minority(trim and fit) tend to fall into it fairly easily.

You are absolutely right that a majority of fetishists do not become models generally speaking, and are very identity conscious due to vanilla social lives or public jobs. Myself included.
 
ticklemepls said:
So, correct me if I'm wrong, you now are stating that BBW women are into fetishes ..... because they're outcasts? Yeah ... uh... no. I do NOT consider myself an outcast- and nor do half the people I'm friends with in the fetish world. Granted, as you said it's your opinion, but if what I deem you're implying is true- you seriously consider the reason that BBW women are into fetishes are because they're outcasts..... wow.
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Not at all, i think you might be reaching. I offered the outcast explanation as one of many reasons people are drawn to the fetish world, which is an absolute fact even if it doesnt apply to you or anyone you know. it applies to me and everyone i know, but like i said im sure everyone has a different and some complete opposite experience than me. But, realistically what i said is true and does apply to a large number of fetishists.

not sure why the "wow" is needed. i didnt say anything untrue, blatantly offensive, or even anything unrealistic. But thats fine, it doesnt really matter.

And i didnt single out BBW people as the outcasts. The thin and trim fetishists/models largely fit that description as well. I think you were searching for an insult in what i said but everything i said is pretty generally applicable. My fiancee and all of her friends whom are fetish models all identify as outcasts in their personal lives. Its not a bad thing, if there is any negative connotation to it its certainly not being added by me but rather the way you are responding to it. Theres no need to be offended, its just an observation, not my opinion. Even my explanation was really just an assumption based on my own facts, not a judgement or opinion, and like i said im sure others have different facts they have seen completely.

In no way have i conducted a study as im sure no one reading any of this has. Its just my observation, a realistic one, from my personal exposure to it both thru lifestyle players and models.

thats all.
 
rhiannon said:
I also tend to think that in the states many fetishists are BBW because there are a hell of a lot more overweight people in the US than anywhere else.
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This. If you really stop and look at the male ticklers in the popular clips, you'll see that many of them would qualify as BBM's, if that's even a term.
 
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