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Do girls find adult men who live with their parents to be pathetic?

mass1926

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I recently posted about my age, 27, asking if people still consider it young or getting old. I guess part of the reason that I feel this way is because I'm single and live with my parents still. In some ways it makes me feel older, like I'm a total failure at my age not even having lived on my own yet. I think when I look at it from that perspective, 27 seems not young anymore cuz I haven't even accomplished the most basic of steps into adulthood, independence.

Basically, to explain this, my early 20's I was in school, but then left because I didn't know what I wanted to do with my life. I spent my early to mid-20s bouncing around jobs because without a degree I could not land even a half-way decent job. Everythign I was able to find was either overnight, extremely physical, or paid terribly. Not only were those jobs nothing that had opportunity for advancement, but I saw no chance of living a decent life with the overnight hours. That's not even throwing in how little job security there is with a no-skill labor job. Whether or not every job in the world has little job security, you are like 10 times more replaceable when you are doing no-skill labor.

I decided at 26 that I wanted to go back to school and finish my degree. A big part of that came from when I hurt my shoulder at work and realized that I can't really do physical work long-term because my shoulder still hurts now even after a year since the injury. For the past year I have been doing college, and hope to be done by about 29 1/2 ( 2 years from now) at the latest. The only problem is that because I am not working full-time beacuse I'm in school full-time, I can't afford to live out on my own. I'm not big on the roomate thing, so I would only really want to move out if I could afford something for myself, which isn't possible on a part-time wage. I have considered taking out larger student loans to get a place, but I have to pay all that back at the end. I haven't ruled that out yet because I don't wanna be single for the next 2 years cuz no girl will date a guy that lives with his mom and dad.

I guess my main question for the girls on here is, would you be understanding to this situation or would you say "no way" to dating an adult in his late 20's still living at home with his folks? I guess it is sad and seems irresponsible, but I am doing it hoping that with a degree I'll have a better life later on. I mean what sounds better: getting out on my own at 30 with a good career, or getting out on my own now and spending 40 years working dead end, low paying jobs just so that I could have a 4 or 5 extra years of independence in my 20's? I have listened to so many people in the past say how irresponsible it is to be living with your parents in your mid 20's, but I just don't see how it is wise to punish myself for the next 40 years with terrible jobs to get a few extra years out on my own now.
 
Heh, I've been thinking along these lines lately; I'm a 23 year old college dropout, currently have a shitty minimum wage job with strange hours, living on the breadline with the fear of eviction always looming over my head if I don't manage to make rent one month.
I recently posted a blog about how my life is actually getting better (it's a lot better than it was) and how I wanted to start dating again. But then I realised today that there's no way that a girl (or indeed a guy) is going to look at me as anything other than a complete loser with nothing going for him, that is if things don't change.
 
Heh, I've been thinking along these lines lately; I'm a 23 year old college dropout, currently have a shitty minimum wage job with strange hours, living on the breadline with the fear of eviction always looming over my head if I don't manage to make rent one month.
I recently posted a blog about how my life is actually getting better (it's a lot better than it was) and how I wanted to start dating again. But then I realised today that there's no way that a girl (or indeed a guy) is going to look at me as anything other than a complete loser with nothing going for him, that is if things don't change.

I totally know what you mean. I started feeling really down when all my friends that were college grads were getting these great jobs and had these bright futures ahead. Here I was, working jobs that really only people that desperately needed money cuz they were married or had kids that depended on them, had to do. I was single and still lived at home because the jobs were just so awful I didn't want to put myself in a position to have to depend on it to live out on my own. I'm talking really physical jobs too, because the more physical the better the pay was. I was doing jobs that had rate systems where if you didn't get enough heavy lifting of products done in a certain time frame, you could get written up and eventually fired. These jobs were like revolving doors where people came and went constantly. NOT career jobs. I finally bit the bullet and went back to school, and I'm doing awesome, but I feel like I like I'm missing out still cuz I'm single and living at home. I guess you can't always have you're cake and eat it too.

The school I'm going too I'm doing it online right now, but I have considered going to the school and living off-campus to finish. Only problem is that the school is in like the backwoods of Alabama on the border of Mississippi, and I live in Massachusetts. I think that the culture shock would be too much for me. Not only that, but the accent is so different, when I have to speak to them on the phone they tell me I talk too fast, and I can't understand half the stuff that they say to me.
 
In your situation you have a very good reason and I think that a girl not being open minded about that would kinda suck.

I don't agree though that having a degree means anything. I have one and thus far it hasn't seemed to help me at all. Maybe that will change, but for now the economy sucks so much it doesn't make a difference.
 
In this economy, it's become way more common for adults in their twenties to move back in with their parents. I wouldn't immediately judge anyone, as I seriously considered this when I was laid off in 2007.
 
In your situation you have a very good reason and I think that a girl not being open minded about that would kinda suck.

I don't agree though that having a degree means anything. I have one and thus far it hasn't seemed to help me at all. Maybe that will change, but for now the economy sucks so much it doesn't make a difference.

Take my word for it, the degree will make a difference. You're young and have you're whole life ahead. Without that degree you will NEVER find a job that will give you opportunities. I can't tell you how many jobs I had where the advancement stops the second you enter the building because you don't have that little piece of paper that says you are smart enough to do more.

Yes, right now the economy sucks, but I can also tell you that the economy sucks about 10 times worse for those who don't have a degree. Unskilled labor is work that anyone can do whether or not they barely speak english. When the need for the labor decreases, we get put out the door. With no useful skill to fall back on, you would have to start at the bottom for like 10/hr every time you lost a job. Believe me, that degree is gonna keep you from spending the rest of your life job hopping around for minimum wage. Give it time and I promise it will be pay off. Without any qualifications such as a degree, the best job I could find was picking orders in a warehouse. Those are the only types of jobs that pay the bills, and they are not long term. When I was 22/23 I thought that I could do it forever, then very quickly the aches and pains creep up after a few years of it and you realize its a short term solution. Without a degree you'll find jobs, but you won't find careers.
 
In this economy, it's become way more common for adults in their twenties to move back in with their parents. I wouldn't immediately judge anyone, as I seriously considered this when I was laid off in 2007.

It's kind of a drag, but at the same time things are different. People don't get married and settle down at 22 anymore like 40 years ago. People have to worry about 401k's and retirement nowadays because we live longer. Back decades ago you were blessed to live past 70, and at the same time screwed cuz you had not money to take care of yourself anymore. It's scary because today we have to worry about having enough money for 50 years from now, and spending every dime you have just to have an aparment isn't always the smartest decision anymore.
 
To specifically answer your question, probably not, but then it's a per person basis. Had an ex that was definitely psychotic who was threatening to break up with me if I didn't move out (at 22, holding down a job and going to college full time while constantly looking to get writing published and find a better job... I guess that equates to being a failure just because I live with my parents? I guess wasting tons of money a year to live on campus is better? I dunno, but her entire family seemed convinced that that was the case.), so yeah... there are people that will be judgmental about everything.

Man I bitched a lot. Sorry about that.

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Actually

It's becoming more common than you think.
 
To specifically answer your question, probably not, but then it's a per person basis. Had an ex that was definitely psychotic who was threatening to break up with me if I didn't move out (at 22, holding down a job and going to college full time while constantly looking to get writing published and find a better job... I guess that equates to being a failure just because I live with my parents? I guess wasting tons of money a year to live on campus is better? I dunno, but her entire family seemed convinced that that was the case.), so yeah... there are people that will be judgmental about everything.

Man I bitched a lot. Sorry about that.

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No problem. I feel for ya cuz when I worked in a warehouse with a bunch of high school dropouts they used to mock people that got degrees. "it's a waste getting a degree when they can't even find jobs. Look at the money we're making and I never finished high school." This is what I heard constantly from a bunch of dumbasses that spent their nights working while they never saw their families and had no free time for a normal lifestyle. Yea, it really worked out pretty sweet for them I guess....lol
 
The old rosey stereotypical idea was: live with family till 18, go to college at parents expense (taking for granted they have the money to do so), graduate, get a job, a house, marriage, kids, dog, white picket fence, etc. pay for your own kids' college tuition, then at 65 live happily with your spouse in blissful retirement. The previous generation seemed to believe this planned-life utopia would last forever and any deviation from it was just plain irresponsibility. They forgot one thing...

Circumstance. But of course that's just an excuse. I just WANT to be at 31 unemployed and living with a mother who only has social security and what's left of the life insurance of her late husband, still paying for a mortgage at at the age of 68. I already feel like a mooch without being judged.

Attitudes much change with the times before the problems related to such attitudes can be addressed.
 
At 23 I still live at home with my parents and my ex lives at home with his parents. I think it all depends on the person and the situation that they are in. For me, it comes down to as long as you're not mooching off of your parents like paying for food, paying rent to them, helping them out like they're helping you, then to me, it's not a big deal. Maybe a little awkward if you wanna get frisky with your date, but other than that, no big deal to me. 😛
 
lol im on the other end of that I am 34 single and my mom lives with me. She has bad diabetes and has had two strokes in as many years. It makes it hard to bring women home. Though it is admirable that i do what i do, or women say that. But they do not want to have to actually deal with it.
 
I'm 23 and live with my parents, I was in a flat with 3 of my friends but the lease expired and we decided not to renew it so we all went our separate ways. 3 of us are back with our parents and 1 is in a flat bought for by his mother. I'd love to get my own place, but actually getting one and being able to afford it on minimum wage is difficult.

I don't consider myself pathetic, a lot of my friends are in the same position. It's not through choice but pretty much by necessity given the current economic climate.
 
I'm 40, and I still live with my mom. There are facts and circumstances behind it, some of which I can't post about. I've had some business failures, and bad luck with certain things.

I'm one who believes that everyone has certain circumstances in life which need to be considered. If I met a girl who said to me "You're pathetic for still living with your mother at age 40, get a life", I'd likely not want that girl anyway, because she would be judging me without knowing the facts. If I met a girl who asked me why I still live with mom, and was willing to be open minded, and listen to all the facts, that I would be okay with.

Each person has their own strengths and weaknesses. No one in life is perfect, or has life by the balls, no matter how successful they are in their careers, or in love. As with anything, the global picture needs to be considered, when evaluating any situation.

Mitch
 
I agree with all these posts, but I think it's the media that is the real culprit. They come off making anyone who isn't out on their own living the Big City lifestyle at a young age as being immature and sad. I mean look at the show Friends. 5 twenty-somethings with great jobs and enough money to live in New York City. That just isn't realistic in most people's cases. That movie Failure to Launch was a cheap shot at adults living with their parents as well. The media brainwashes youth into feeling like unless you're a crazy success by 25 you're a failure. So because of that I think that some women as well as men set unrealistic standards for people without being open minded to reality.
 
I Think

In today's day and age if you're in your 20s and living at home you
1: Better be helping out with the bills and chores.
2: Living by your parents rules.
3: Making an effort to get out.

More and more people are having to live at home at least through their late 20s. By 30 or so there is no excuse to be at home.
 
BTW

Yes most girls want nothing to do with a guy who is living with his parents. It has nothing to do with being open minded.
 
I agree, living with your parents in your 20s, 30s, even early forties can be interpeted as kind of pathetic, but if you stay at home long enough, your mom is getting old and needs you to take care of her, you're a pretty good dude.
 
matt, each person has different facts and circumstances as to why they do things. I can tell you that I have two other friends, forum members, who, I of course wont name, who are my age and older, and still live with their parents. All I care about is that they're good friends. The facts of why they still live at home, aren't my business.

The old saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover" applies.

Mitch
 
People with college degrees are having trouble finding work. If you have a support system that allows this, then it is okay, as long as you are trying to find a way to situate yourself to have the ability to have more education. I lived on my own for a spell and moved back in with my folks recently because, right now, there isn't a lot you can do when you can't find work. This isn't a justification to lay about the house; I've been looking for work fairly constantly, looking for a low level middle class job. My goal was simplistic in that what I wanted to do was pay of all my debts before hitting the bricks. Any costs I have are kept on a tab that I will pay back. It's not exactly like I am doing this for free, or with the expectation for free.

There are people who are on their own and are stuck in situations where they are not financially solvent, nor do they have the educational background suited to have a decent, 30k a year job. The recession has made jobs hard to come by in that sector, and many of those at top levels who were from the baby boomer generation are not moving aside, or are in the process of downsizing departments to maximize 'fiscal figures'.

But then again, I'm in my mid twenties, and have a few years before I would be in your situation. I worked third shift jobs, and I have done those sorts of things while I put myself through school...and it isn't fun. Maybe women do look upon this as pathetic at that 18-22 year old level, but once they get out there and realize that they too are stuck boomeranging back home...

Or even worse; rigging up the college loan system so they keep getting money on loan that should be used on education but instead goes to them living near campus and drinking, and buy clothes...thinking it's an ATM card that they will never have to pay back. Sure...people may think it is pathetic, but if you are going to school, if you are working to support yourself, if you are helping with your parents health...let's be realistic; if someone you wish to have a relationship takes issue with these sorts of things, they are not the kind of person you want to be with in the first place.

And also, this life of eking out on a month to month basis is NOT a way to live. It's cool to have the flat and your own place. It's not cool to not be able to afford heating in the winter, so that really awesome place is 40 degrees at best.
 
Meangry:

I agree totally with you. Living paycheck to paycheck isn't gonna cut it anymore. If a person does that they will never be able to retire, and when they finally get forced out of the workforce they won't have a dime to live off of.
 
To be totally and completely honest, that's a turn off for me.
Independence is a must. If a man can't take care of himself,
how is he going to take care of me and, someday, a family?
That said, there is a difference between living with your parents,
and living off of your parents.

I worked plenty of crap jobs when I was younger (I'm 27 now).
I worked full time and was in school full time (not online classes,
either). I busted my ass. I never did finish a 4 year degree. And
today have a great job (though I despise my boss and the commute)
and I make more than most of people I know that have a bachelors
or even masters degrees.

I moved in with my mom for about nine months after leaving my husband,
while my brother was living there (he's now 21 and in school), and I never
mooched off of her. We split everything 3 ways, just like roommates.

There is no shame in honest labor. Do what you have to do as far as a job.
But I'm sorry to say, I don't know any girls personally who would find a man
who lives off of his parents to be attractive.
 
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