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Do girls find adult men who live with their parents to be pathetic?

I'm 26, still living with my parents. Same's with all my friends, even the cool kids. Though the reason might be is that real estate is either insanely expensive or just way too far from civilization in my country. >_>
 
5-10 years ago I think perhaps it was more 'looked down upon', but with the economy and all, I don't know.

Personally, being 23 and living at home (when I'm not deployed), I don't really care who thinks what about me.

Maybe I'm 'pathetic' for living w/ my folks, but considering how much $$$ I have saved and invested, I'll take the trade off.

Overall and from my limited experiences, I don't think it matters what people think [about you] so long as you're okay with it. Often confidence matters just as much or more than honesty.
 
In today's day and age if you're in your 20s and living at home you
1: Better be helping out with the bills and chores.
2: Living by your parents rules.
3: Making an effort to get out.

More and more people are having to live at home at least through their late 20s. By 30 or so there is no excuse to be at home.

All good points.
 
If you're over the age of 18, not in college full-time and still living w/ your parents ... you're a loser.

"Circumstances" are nothing more than convenient excuses.
Working a job you're not in love with is a reality most adults deal with.
Bottom line: take care of yourself.
Dependency is NOT attractive, for either sex.

Living with your parents is needy and pathetic.
 
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How you live is more important then where you live. Many people are trying to get a jump start to their life in a bad economy. If they are at their parents just to mooch off of them, then they are using them. If they are using it to get on their feet, and help out and stuff, then I guess they are doing what they have to do. I'm more impressed with people who have a family to be able to lean on and vice versa, because there are plenty of people out there with no one to help out in rough times.

There was a time in my early twenties when my younger brother and I were both still living at my parent's place right after my mom had emergency brain surgery. I had lined up my first place to move into 6 days later when it struck. After almost losing her, we stayed another year and a half at home, to help out and always have someone there when my dad was away at work for a week at a time. My brother and I both had professional jobs, successful relationships and were more than happy to be able to help out. If for any reason either of our girlfriends (he's now married to his) would have had a problem with it, they would have been shown the door in a heartbeat. Either way, judge a book by its cover, and its a book you don't "deserve" to read. I'd go back and do it again every time.

As for the comment about the degree. It is not even almost mandatory. Experience goes a loooong way. 15 years ago, one almost guaranteed you a job, and today most of the people going through the door have one. Every single job I've had after my 2nd or 3rd job, I've gotten over people with degrees because of my experience in said field. I've since earned one degree and half of another, and while it is nice to have even my most successful career to date was still won because of the experience and not the paper. Do I think its worthless to get a degree? Absolutely not. I'm proud of everyone who takes the time and puts forth the time to earn one, and for some careers its mandatory. For a lot of people they do more than fine without it.
 
I'd love to talk to my parents about moving in with them. But since they have both already passed away, it's kind of a mute point.
 
I once had a professor who said "If you dont know WHY, you dont know anything". That holds extremely true.

Three close friends, two guys, and one girl, all of whom have lived on their own since their early 20s, and who all know the facts and circumstances of my life, and know why I live here, know that I'm not "pathetic" for still living where I do. More pathetic, I think, are people who have to resort to passing generalizations on a forum, for no other reason than to attack others, and to make themselves feel better.

I'm a very open person, and if I met people who wanted to know why I live where I do, I would be more than happy to tell them. If they can accept it, fine. If not, I move on to someone who can. I've always believed that one has to look at the deeper levels of things in life.

A person who matters a lot to me, told me: "Unless the person passing judgement is a family member, or close friend, who you value much, dont worry about what others say." Very true. I'm sure that not a lot of people would care what I say, if I went around passing judgement, without knowing the facts and circumstances.
 
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I had to move in with my parents because of finances a few years back, and I didn't even consider dating to be an option while I was there. It's not really about how women would actually feel about it, it was about how I felt about myself for living at home in my 20's, and also about how I would feel about a woman who was okay with dating a guy who still lives at home at that age.

If you have to do it, fine, no one expects you to starve, but I wouldn't be able to help feeling like less of a man if I still lived with my parents at this age. That's just me. And that inevitably translates into my love life.
 
i have the same problem!!!
see this makes me feel a little better!!!.
 
I had to move in with my parents because of finances a few years back, and I didn't even consider dating to be an option while I was there. It's not really about how women would actually feel about it, it was about how I felt about myself for living at home in my 20's, and also about how I would feel about a woman who was okay with dating a guy who still lives at home at that age.

If you have to do it, fine, no one expects you to starve, but I wouldn't be able to help feeling like less of a man if I still lived with my parents at this age. That's just me. And that inevitably translates into my love life.

This.

I believe that there is an understanding amongst most men that hit that point having a problem with viewing relationships with others as being a moot point. If you can't take care of yourself, you can't take care of the needs of someone else.

I get putting yourself into proper positioning for the rest of your life, but you have to view that time as a way to prepare yourself, be if mentally or physically. If you have a few pounds, there's no reason you can't spend that time you have going to school trying to live a healthier lifestyle.

There is a difference between being a parasite and using a support system.
 
To any of the people who posted how men who in their 40s who still live at home are pathetic: It shows just how ignorance is bliss.

Have you had your lives threatened, by both your father, and a client he was in an adversial proceding with? Were you afraid to start your car in the morning, because there might be a bomb in it? Was your mother forced to call the FBI, because her life was threatened, interstate, in a blackmail letter, that was sent to the home where you and your mother live, by your father, that if she went to court to defend her rights, she would "suffer the consequences", which could mean anything from financial ruin, to being killed? Were you threatened with jail by a federal judge, because the client your father was having a court proceding with, and the judge, were convinced that your father, (who hates your guts, and threatened to have a hit man kill your mother). fraudulently transferred assets to you? The judge and the client were convinced that assets were fraudulently transferred to you by your father, but the fact is, your father would never do that, because he would rather see you in jail, or dead. Have any of you been set up to go to prison by your father? I guarantee that all you big, bold people who are judging those who still live at home, at an advanced age, would have had a fucking nervous breakdown, and wanted to probably tear up the world, if even half that shit had happened to any of you. Well, all of those things happened to me. Those circumstances, plus one other fact that I cant post about, for legal reasons, are why I still live here at age 40. All those things, and a bunch of bad luck, where I put years of effort into businesses where others made hundreds of thousands, and I didnt, are why I'm still here. The people who matter to me, and who know the facts of my life, are more horrified at what my father and the courts did to me, rather than the fact that I still "live with mom at 40". That is just circumstance, that, one way or the other, will work itself out.

I'd like to see any of you people who blasted someone who lives at home at age 40, to conduct yourselves with the dignity and class that I do, if you had been through what I have. I'm pretty sure you might either A. Have a nervous breakdown from worry of jail, being murdered, or financial ruin, or B, Go off half cocked at the people who threatened you, when they had no reason to threaten you, other than to promote fear. I had no business dealings with my father or the client who threatened all those things, yet, my life was threatened, as well as my mom's. Welcome to the United States of Fucking America.

Once again, know the facts before posting bullshit, because. when you don't, it makes you seem ignorant. The girls I've dated and been interested in, who knew, and currently know, the facts of my life, still dated me, and still loved me, and the fact that I still live here, didnt matter. If I meet someone in the future, who would want to know why, I would hope that she would be intelligent enough to understand why, once she heard the facts, instead of just talking off the top of her head, like everyone in this thread who automatically judged someone who lives at home at an advanced age as "pathetic".

Really, people, get the facts of someone's life, before you judge.

Mitch
 
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Mitchell calm down please!!

At the end of the day, no matter how much information you give or details you divulge, people are going to feel what they feel about an issue. There is an exception to every rule so let them think as they want and you continue to do what works for you.

On to the OP:

I used to think it was pretty pathetic for a man to be living at home if he was 30+, but now life's circumstances have changed. There are many whose entire families have lost their jobs; do what you have to do in order to survive the economic crisis and get back on your feet is what I think.

I had to move in with my sister twice, both in my thirties and with two kids in tow. Trust me, I felt more pathetic than anyone who judged me for it; I lost contact with my friends for years because I was spending all my waking moments surviving and caring for my kids. I finally got myself together, raised my kids into two awesome adults (if I must say so myself :thumbsup:😉), got two degrees (in my forties), and bought my home. It takes hard work, but if you really want it, you can turn your life around.

You can make all the plans you want and that's good to do, but sometimes life just happens to you and it knocks you square on the arse and puts you in survival mode. I'd rather see someone move home to get his/herself together than to let pride overrule common sense and really end up in a mess.
 
each person has different facts and circumstances as to why they do things. I can tell you that I have two other friends, forum members, who, I of course wont name, who are my age and older, and still live with their parents. All I care about is that they're good friends. The facts of why they still live at home, aren't my business.

The old saying "Don't judge a book by it's cover" applies.

Mitch

Mitch, you missed the "punchline" in my post...oh well
I lived with my parents when I was in my thirties...nothing wrong with that, in fact years ago it was the norm to live with your parents, even when you were married with children.
I feel modern society "interprets" it as pathetic, but in reality, in tough economic times we all might be returning to the old days.
 
kis, I've always liked you, but it's hard to "calm down" as you say, when you're being attacked from all ends by ignorant people.

It isn't a question of "Do what I need to do". It is circumstance. Anyone who thinks I like being in the position I'm in at 40 years old, is severely mistaken. Also, kis, in case you didn't read my blog, or my original post about it which I made in early March, my mom was just diagnosed with lung cancer. Such is not only devestating emotionally, but, it gives me a whole new set of worries. In addition to mom, I have to worry about where to live, if something heaven forbid happens to her.

You mentioned people are going to think what they do, no matter how much info I post. Fine. If they can post generalizations of how anyone who lives at home at 40 is pathetic, without weighing the circumstances of WHY, I can post my opinion of how I think they are ignorant and small minded. They are prejudice against any person who happens to live at home at an advanced age. How different is that then being prejudiced against any other kind of group? If they posted racial or sexual orientation hate on here, (As everyone knows I personally detest anyone who is prejudice against any group, because I judge people by the content of their character). everyone would be all over them for how terrible they are, but, post that someone who lives at home at 40 is pathetic, and that's okay. it seems a double standard.

I personally have much bigger things to worry about than arguing with a group of ignorant people. My biggest worry now is my mom and her health. In case people havent noticed, until this thread, I had gone from being one of the most flamboyant members of this forum in my early years here, to being more of a lurker over the last four years. This thread raised my ire, and my view is, if people can post their ignorant, attacking, opinions making generalizations, I can post mine as well.

Mitch
 
kis, I've always liked you, but it's hard to "calm down" as you say, when you're being attacked from all ends by ignorant people.

Well I'm glad you like me because I see what happens to those who get on your bad side.

Look, I'll try to keep this as simple as possible; it's apparent that this is a sore subject with you. Please remember that everyone's situation/circumstance is individual. Don't let anyone pigeonhole you into the stereotypical. Your situation between you and your mother is your business not anyone elses. You posted your position and even explained your situation; what else do you really need to say about it? IMO, not much because you've made yourself abundantly clear. People are going to think what they want; they don't personally know you from a can of paint. Try not to sweat it because for some it gives them control over your emotions and they will troll and flame until there's nothing left.

Just a suggestion so you can take it and .50 for your next cup of coffee I guess.


You mentioned people are going to think what they do, no matter how much info I post. Fine. If they can post generalizations of how anyone who lives at home at 40 is pathetic, without weighing the circumstances of WHY, I can post my opinion of how I think they are ignorant and small minded. They are prejudice against any person who happens to live at home at an advanced age. How different is that then being prejudiced against any other kind of group? If they posted racial or sexual orientation hate on here, (As everyone knows I personally detest anyone who is prejudice against any group, because I judge people by the content of their character). everyone would be all over them for how terrible they are, but, post that someone who lives at home at 40 is pathetic, and that's okay. it seems a double standard.

Did I say it was okay? See my response above Mitchell; I'd like to think I covered it. The OP asked an opinion and several responded with theirs; no one is right or wrong here.....it's an opinion plain and simple. I know how it feels when someone hits that personal button and I'm slowly learning to pick my battles. I'm not going to let someone in cyberspace that I probably will never meet control my emotions. After a certain amount of dialouge and jousting in print, I unsubscribe and I'm done.

I'm not telling you how to handle your business; you're a grown man and should do as you choose for yourself.

I personally have much bigger things to worry about than arguing with a group of ignorant people. My biggest worry now is my mom and her health. In case people havent noticed, until this thread, I had gone from being one of the most flamboyant members of this forum in my early years here, to being more of a lurker over the last four years. This thread raised my ire, and my view is, if people can post their ignorant, attacking, opinions making generalizations, I can post mine as well.

Mitch

Point made and taken.

Maybe you should read those first two sentences of your last paragraph again. Again, do as you choose-I only chimed in because I didn't want you to become unhinged over this. Stress adds to our sensitivity levels and I know you're going through a lot of it. Take care and think peaceful thoughts.

To the OP; I apologize for the hijack and promise to keep things on point from here.
 
kis, thank you.

I understand what you said about not letting it get to me. 99% of the time the last four years, I'll read a thread that might tick me off some, and ignore it, because it isn't worth arguing over. This thread struck a nerve. I'm sure that I'm more on edge because of my mom's cancer, but I don't think I would have liked it even if she didn't have cancer.

FYI, usually, I don't get into arguments with people who tick me off. When I used to post stories, if someone flamed the story, they would get ignore, not an argument.

Last night a friend who is a forum member told me not to let this thread get to me. They pointed out that those who flamed in this thread, aren't personal friends of mine, and don't know my circumstances, so I shouldn't upset myself about their attacks. Point well taken.

I probably should just go back to what I've been doing the last four years. Lurking, posting occasional non controversial threads, and updates about my mom, in my blog, if circumstances warrant. I'm best off disinvolving myself from threads such as this one, as it is unproductive, and will only make me angry. I'll focus on the handful of friends on this forum who have been so supportive since my mom's diagnosis. They are the people who really matter to me. The rest, can think what they want.

Mitch
 
It depends on the situation. If said guy is taking care of his parents, going back to school, or having some kind of financial problem and trying to remedy that, it's understandable. But if the guy is just a lazy piece of shit with no goals or some kind of weird pansy about moving out, that's pathetic.
 
Mentally challenged/handicapped.

I'm just going to assume that the mentally handicapped/challenged people are removed from the idea that living at home with their parents - regardless of how old they get - is viewed as pathetic. :shrug: But I could be wrong. I'm sure there are some people on here who think just about everything that doesn't fit their bill of perfect is pathetic, so for those people, yes, it is best to ignore about 90% of what they say...

My point to this post, however, is that I see Mitch's perspective and agree with it wholeheartedly. In my sincere and passionate opinion, this whole world is an awful wreck, and the more good and decent people that we surround ourselves with - blood related or not - the better off we will all be, when we all come to the realization that we will all one day need them more than what we currently think we do. (This is also assuming that one is lucky enough to have such good parents who actually allow their offspring to live with them during difficult circumstances. Some of us aren't that lucky.) I get the feeling that there's the possibility that those who put others down for still living with their parents up into their adult ages, might possibly be some of those people who aren't even fortunate enough to have good mothers and fathers who care about the lives of the humans they conceived.

@Mitchell: I'm praying for you, my friend. I'm hoping that you have brighter days ahead, and that there is a whole world of good fortune awaiting you, when you have crossed your bridges to get to it. 🙂 Take care, friend.
 
Thank for your perspective, TT. I greatly appreciate your good wishes and thoughts.

Mitch
 
What is pathetic is people judging others without personally knowing anything about them.....That and nothing more....
 
One does not need to personally know someone to make a generalized judgment call.

I find spousal abuse pathetic, regardless of circumstances.
I find child abuse pathetic, regardless of circumstances.
If a person is not mentally handicapped, I find living at home your entire adult life pathetic.
I'm not talking about a month here or there, I'm talking full-time, adult life.

I've taken care of the handicapped (physically and mentally) who have gained independence.
If they can do it, the rest should be able to as well.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone of either sex who does not agree with that statement.
Dependency is not sexy or a desirable trait, regardless of the circumstances.

Why some people think they are the exception to the rule is beyond me.
 
One does not need to personally know someone to make a generalized judgment call.

I find spousal abuse pathetic, regardless of circumstances.
I find child abuse pathetic, regardless of circumstances.
If a person is not mentally handicapped, I find living at home your entire adult life pathetic.
I'm not talking about a month here or there, I'm talking full-time, adult life.

I've taken care of the handicapped (physically and mentally) who have gained independence.
If they can do it, the rest should be able to as well.

You'll be hard pressed to find anyone of either sex who does not agree with that statement.
Dependency is not sexy or a desirable trait, regardless of the circumstances.

Why some people think they are the exception to the rule is beyond me.

Equating spousal abuse and child abuse with living at home is foolish at best...but you are welcome to your opinion lol

As I said...judging others without KNOWING circumstances...is pathetic....
 
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