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Do girls find adult men who live with their parents to be pathetic?

Equating spousal abuse and child abuse with living at home is foolish at best...but you are welcome to your opinion lol

As I said...judging others without KNOWING circumstances...is pathetic....

Those were examples of generalized judgment calls.

The point is: everyone thinks they have a good reason to do what they do, regardless of the circumstances.

If you're going to say with a straight face that 40 year old adults who have never left home are desirable to the opposite sex (that is the topic, right?), then I believe you are cuckoo for coco puffs, sir.

Using the ol' "you don't know me" or "you don't have all the facts" is incredibly sophomoric.

I don't need all the "circumstances" (see: excuses) to believe it's pathetic.
 
As I said..You have the right to think they are pathetic and I have the right to think that is an ignorant point of view....We all win!
 
Those were examples of generalized judgment calls.

The point is: everyone thinks they have a good reason to do what they do, regardless of the circumstances.

If you're going to say with a straight face that 40 year old adults who have never left home are desirable to the opposite sex (that is the topic, right?), then I believe you are cuckoo for coco puffs, sir.

Using the ol' "you don't know me" or "you don't have all the facts" is incredibly sophomoric.

I don't need all the "circumstances" (see: excuses) to believe it's pathetic.

This is the OP's question:

I guess my main question for the girls on here is, would you be understanding to this situation or would you say "no way" to dating an adult in his late 20's still living at home with his folks? I guess it is sad and seems irresponsible, but I am doing it hoping that with a degree I'll have a better life later on. I mean what sounds better: getting out on my own at 30 with a good career, or getting out on my own now and spending 40 years working dead end, low paying jobs just so that I could have a 4 or 5 extra years of independence in my 20's? I have listened to so many people in the past say how irresponsible it is to be living with your parents in your mid 20's, but I just don't see how it is wise to punish myself for the next 40 years with terrible jobs to get a few extra years out on my own now.
So unless you have:

A) personally asked most women how they feel about this

B) asked ANY women how they feel about this

or

C) are yourself a woman posing as a man here

Then you really are not qualified to answer the question posed by the OP...


(If C is true than I apologize and stand corrected....)🙂
 
You know what I think is incredibly sophmoric, master baiter, someone who has post on a tickling forum, with the sole purpose of attacking other people. To me, I don't see how someone who thinks as you do, would be desirable to the opposite sex, even if they lived in a fucking penthouse apartment on Park Avenue, and were a millionaire, unless the girl dating such a person didn't consider their character when choosing a dating partner.

I'm done with this thread. You arent worth my getting banned over. Think as you want. I really dont give a fuck.

Mitch
 
I don't agree though that having a degree means anything. I have one and thus far it hasn't seemed to help me at all. Maybe that will change, but for now the economy sucks so much it doesn't make a difference.
It'll make a difference. Right now the unemployment level among those who do not have a degree is about 3 times higher than that among people who do have one.

Now, your degree might not determine what you end up doing. Mine is in chemistry, and I work as a technical writer. My wife's is in theology, and she works as a business analyst. But I guarantee you we wouldn't have those jobs if we didn't have degrees in SOMETHING.

To get back to the OP, I think it depends on age and circumstances. If a young man is 20 years old and still going to college, living with parents isn't a big surprise. If he's 40, then there might be something wrong unless the circumstances are extraordinary.
 
I'm done with this thread. You arent worth my getting banned over. Think as you want. I really dont give a fuck.

Mitch

No one's getting banned for expressing our views w/o attacking and manage to stay on topic.

If our POV's don't line up, so be it.

That's why we have discussion forums.
 
Hmm. Flame-y.

As to the OP; what Amanda and Annie said. 😛

I feel like you missed the opportunity to throw down another macro.

Anyway, I'm sure that for some women, your living at home will raise red flags on a first-date, first-impressions, screening level. Anyone for whom it isn't a dealbreaker right off the bat will eventually learn enough to be understanding.
 
I feel like you missed the opportunity to throw down another macro.

I'm saving those SICK BURNS for the stupider threads that will surely self-destruct. This one has a pretty good rhythm going; even if certain members are a wee bit...sensitive.
 
BS

To any of the people who posted how men who in their 40s who still live at home are pathetic: It shows just how ignorance is bliss.

Have you had your lives threatened, by both your father, and a client he was in an adversial proceding with? Were you afraid to start your car in the morning, because there might be a bomb in it? Was your mother forced to call the FBI, because her life was threatened, interstate, in a blackmail letter, that was sent to the home where you and your mother live, by your father, that if she went to court to defend her rights, she would "suffer the consequences", which could mean anything from financial ruin, to being killed? Were you threatened with jail by a federal judge, because the client your father was having a court proceding with, and the judge, were convinced that your father, (who hates your guts, and threatened to have a hit man kill your mother). fraudulently transferred assets to you? The judge and the client were convinced that assets were fraudulently transferred to you by your father, but the fact is, your father would never do that, because he would rather see you in jail, or dead. Have any of you been set up to go to prison by your father? I guarantee that all you big, bold people who are judging those who still live at home, at an advanced age, would have had a fucking nervous breakdown, and wanted to probably tear up the world, if even half that shit had happened to any of you. Well, all of those things happened to me. Those circumstances, plus one other fact that I cant post about, for legal reasons, are why I still live here at age 40. All those things, and a bunch of bad luck, where I put years of effort into businesses where others made hundreds of thousands, and I didnt, are why I'm still here. The people who matter to me, and who know the facts of my life, are more horrified at what my father and the courts did to me, rather than the fact that I still "live with mom at 40". That is just circumstance, that, one way or the other, will work itself out.

I'd like to see any of you people who blasted someone who lives at home at age 40, to conduct yourselves with the dignity and class that I do, if you had been through what I have. I'm pretty sure you might either A. Have a nervous breakdown from worry of jail, being murdered, or financial ruin, or B, Go off half cocked at the people who threatened you, when they had no reason to threaten you, other than to promote fear. I had no business dealings with my father or the client who threatened all those things, yet, my life was threatened, as well as my mom's. Welcome to the United States of Fucking America.

Once again, know the facts before posting bullshit, because. when you don't, it makes you seem ignorant. The girls I've dated and been interested in, who knew, and currently know, the facts of my life, still dated me, and still loved me, and the fact that I still live here, didnt matter. If I meet someone in the future, who would want to know why, I would hope that she would be intelligent enough to understand why, once she heard the facts, instead of just talking off the top of her head, like everyone in this thread who automatically judged someone who lives at home at an advanced age as "pathetic".

Really, people, get the facts of someone's life, before you judge.

Mitch

Sorry I don't believe you one bit. You're a classic case of the victim mentality that is plaguing this country.
 
In My Opinion

There is no excuse to be living with your parents at age 40.

I can see in the 20s and 30s. In today's day and age it can give them a good start on life. I've talked with the originator of this thread quite extensively in PM. He's not defensive about it, he has good reasoning for living at home and he's in his 20's and he's doing his damndest to get ahead.. Mitchell on the other hand believes if a girl doesn't understand his living at home at 40 then they are by definition not open minded. Now there's a concrete cannot lose delusionary outlook.
 
Thank you professor for your insight...

Though what you believe or do not about Mitch or anyone else has no bearing on the question that was asked by the OP to the women of the forum...
 
Come to think of it...how many WOMEN have actually chimed in on this? At a cursory glance, it would seem that a bunch of MEN have taken over this thread.
 
This thread has been beaten down to the point where it doens't need any more posting. Stick a fork in it cuz this thread is done.
 
Oh hell, I'll chime in. 😀

How do I feel? I don't really. Everyone has their own reasons to do what they do and I don't care to judge. There is a difference between a guy living at home in order to better himself (or help a parent for whatever reason) and someone who is just a bum. :shrug:

Would I immediately write off a guy because he shared a residence with a parent? Nope. Especially if there was a good reason but this is just me.

To each their own...........
 
I don't think most women rate any guy who lives with his parents as unconditionally "pathetic," but I'm sure they all consider it a con when sizing up whether or not he's worth dating.
 
I don't think most women rate any guy who lives with his parents as unconditionally "pathetic," but I'm sure they all consider it a con when sizing up whether or not he's worth dating.

I agree. I have read these types of threads on google and made one here hoping to see if the responses were about the same. They pretty much are, but from what I get from when I read these threads on general internet sites is that most girls are skeptical intially. However, if the guy has reasoning behind it and has future plans to be out on his own within reasonable time they will give him a shot. If he comes off as a straight up moocher then that is a quality that they would definately push a girl away because, from what they say, it probably means that the guy would not be a good provider if and when he got a place. That is totally understandable because nobody wants to risk being with someone that is gonna put all the burden on them in a relationship.

My brother is the worker in his family, but his wife is totally lazy and does nothing. She works like 15 hours a week part-time, and it's not like she is with the kids all day. The kids are in school for 7 hours a day, and my brother usually gets stuck running them everywhere after a long day at work so she can do go to work for 4 hours 3 nights a week at her part time job after sitting on her ass all day with nothing else to do but play on the computer. Best of all, she handles all the finances and has even taken a credit card out in his name without telling him, then defaulted on the payments. Yet, she complains and places all the blame on my brother for why they have no money and can't afford a better life. With that being said, I can totally understand why someone would be turned off by another person that seems like a moocher with no ambition. I sure as hell wish my brother had more sense 10 years ago before he got married. He's not even happy because he always remarks to me that he wishes he stayed single. He can't leave her now cuz of the kids so he's trapped. It does make sense why no woman would want to be with a man if they thought he'd do to them what my brother's wife did to him. Marriage is definately a 50/50 ordeal for the most part. Sure, if the kids are young the wife may have to be home all day to take care of them, but once they are in school she should be doing her part to help out, whether picking up some extra hours at work if money is tight, or at least helping with the errands and other stuff.
 
*raises hand*
I'm a female, FYI.

@Mitch.
@Venray.

Love you both. 🙂 Two really great dudes on the TMF. I'm glad to be your guys' friend. I really think it all boils down to that - how great you two are.

I think it's very big of Mitchell to be staying with his mother and taking care of her. Personally? If my mother were to have cancer, I do not even so much as possess the heart large enough to stay with her, if she were to be in that position. Mitchell is a bigger person than me. I have had so many issue with my mother before, that if she were to have one foot in the grave, I would probably let her go and not stick around when she's dying. I mean, I would send her flowers and talk to her on the phone, but based on my past with her, I do not have love for her great enough to want to see her or touch her ever again, once I'm away from her for good.

Mitch, you're a big person. If I were in your shoes, I would be deemed cold. Very cold. I wish I could be as nice a person as you, but I do not believe I can.

You're a great guy. Please don't let anyone walk all over you or take advantage of you. You're too good for that.
 
I used to think it was pretty pathetic for a man to be living at home if he was 30+, but now life's circumstances have changed. There are many whose entire families have lost their jobs; do what you have to do in order to survive the economic crisis and get back on your feet is what I think.

It depends on the situation. If said guy is taking care of his parents, going back to school, or having some kind of financial problem and trying to remedy that, it's understandable. But if the guy is just a lazy piece of shit with no goals or some kind of weird pansy about moving out, that's pathetic.

How do I feel? I don't really. Everyone has their own reasons to do what they do and I don't care to judge. There is a difference between a guy living at home in order to better himself (or help a parent for whatever reason) and someone who is just a bum. :shrug:

Would I immediately write off a guy because he shared a residence with a parent? Nope. Especially if there was a good reason but this is just me.

To each their own...........

I'm in agreement here.

I can have fun with this thread because any man my age who still lives with his parents must have a tent pitched at the graveyard or the yard in the old folks home

Today's economy is pretty tough on any single person unless you have a pretty decent paying job. Any normal job at a normal pay scale is the bare minimum of incomes at the best of times.

So... it all depends on the circumstances.

If, like Annie said, you're living at home to get out of having to pay rent and just suck off your parents because you are a bum... then yes it's pretty pathetic.

If the reason you are still at home is because you're a complete Mamma's Boy (or Daddy's Girl) who can't wipe his/her own ass without the parents approval... then yes... I have issues.

If your parents are healthy and financially able to support themselves and you still refuse to move out even after finding a significant other who wants you to live with them elsewhere... I gotta wonder.

But if you are living at home to help out ailing parents... to help them with their rent and expenses as they are helping you with yours... to aid you in the costs of schooling as you try to better yourself... then you can live there til Hell freezes over for all I care.

The only problem I could see is the lack of privacy if you bring a date home and the adherence to your parents rules which may hinder your dating freedom from that which you would have if you were out on your own.
 
When you're still at home at age 30, there's a psychologically debilitating effect. You yourself have grown into an adult (unless you're one of those in-the-flesh Judd Apatow characters, but I digress). However, you're still locked into an environment in which the dominating personalities still consider you a child, regardless of age or emotional maturity. There is a distinct clash- unless you've completely conformed to the mindset of the house; in which your views and your own culture are totally in lockstep with that of the dominant personalities. It's not usually like that, though.

Now, the person you're trying to date will see all of this, and make her judgement. I can tell you that you've got your work cut out for you.

When you finally do go out on your own, it's like, psychologically, you've become independent enough to let your personality flower, and become the dominant one in the environment that you inhabit, your own space. You're not the child of the house any longer. Even if you take a living situation elsewhere, which, in this economy may be very necessary, it's more like you're among equals, then an adult child in your parents' house.

The opposite sex will see that psychological independence. Call it a prerequisite.
 
So, apparently I've been told to let this thread die, but, with like ten posts since my last one, it hasn't died, so, here are some facts, people, to refute what has been said.

Twice, I have become involved with girls in the last decade plus. Once was in 1996, and the other time in 2005. The first time, the girl lived in GA, and had a boyfriend when we first started communicating. We were friends. From the start, she knew exactly where I lived, because she used to call my apartment, every weekend. She said to me: "The only thing that matters to me, Mitch, is that you're a nice guy. The living circumstance, that is just geography". She was a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints, where they believe you dont have sex until marriage. However, she asked me "If I didnt believe that, where would we go for private time" Simple answer, my best friend lived in town. He said I can have a key to his apartment. He works at night, we can go there. Problem solved. We eventually ended up going our seperate ways in 1999, but not because of where I lived. Her religion was a big issue. She wanted me to convert, and become completely Mormon, complete with never being allowed to gamble, drink, or use birth control. I couldnt do that, so it was asta la vista.

Spring, 2005, I meet someone online who had been a friend at first, and who was very supportive to me, during my problem with high BP earlier that year. We talk, get to know each other, etc. That time, I was a little hesitant to tell her where I lived. I waited, a bit, to finally confess. She was pissed, not because of where I live, but because I didn't tell her, and she felt I had lied. She said one thing to me : "You can tell me anything, no matter what it is, but if you ever lie to me again, you're history. I don't care where you live, but it's the fact that you didn't tell me, that pisses me off". She asked me why I live here, I told her all the circumstances, and she was like "Okay". Again, the question came up of where we go for private time. Simple. My best friend works graveyard shift. He's at work at night every weekend. I get a key to his place, we have our date and private time. She was fine with that.

There's a big difference between living with a mother, and having her control your brain, and your life. My mom is my roommate. I share an apartment with her. I pay half the rent, etc. She doesnt tell me who to be friends with, or what to do. On the contrary, as anyone who knows me well can say, I'm a very headstrong person, who often doesn't listen to anyone. My father made has huge sums of money his whole life, and has lived in the best places possible, but he had a major problem where his mother absoulutely controlled his brain. He had, and has, terrible guilt for her, and about her. Thus, he blew up his marriage to my mom, and his relationship with me. A long time ago, a shrink I was seeing said to me: "You're in your 20s, and you still live with your mom, but that is just circumstance. You're more mature than your father, who makes tons of money, and lives on his own". If my mom actually controlled me, I would not be a member of this forum, or in relationships I've been in, or talking to my father. I know a guy who has lived on his own for 15 years, and yet his mother would like to control his life.

I've said my piece. Eventually, these threads will die, and people can think what they wish.

Mitch
 
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I try to be careful about where I post my age on forums, as I usually receive a lot of negative feedback for posting my age because there are always a handful of people out there who think that because they are 10 or 20 years older than me that it gives them the liberty to make condescending remarks and refer to me as a "baby", but for the sake of this thread, I'll go ahead and be open with my age. I'm 19. Not that big of a deal, really. At least, not in my perspective.

My view-point may be pretty limited on this subject because I am indeed not an older adult, but rather a young adult. Despite that fact, I do know a thing or two about possessive mothers. I have one. All throughout my childhood and my teens, my mother's main way of controlling me was through manipulation. Guilt. Passive-aggressiveness. You name it, my mother used it on me. She told me a few times - when I was in my mid-teens - that she took psychology in high school. At first, I didn't pay attention to it and I just shrugged it off, thinking to myself "So? What's her point?" Later on in the future, I ended up figuring out that her reason behind telling me this was a subtle message, to me, that "If you get out of line, I'm going to see to it that I make you suffer physically as well as psychologically." And that she did. If I upset her in any way, she would say things to me that convinced me that I was a bad person. For this, I grew up cutting myself and hurting myself. My mother - on occasion - would see this and reprimand me further, but then in the back of my mind, I would think to myself "If she is so cruel as to want me to hate myself, why does it bother her for to see me hurt myself, physically, if she knows that she's putting me in a state of mental anguish ALL the TIME? It does not add up."

As I grew, I came to understand that there are different types of abusive parents. I was lucky enough to stumble upon a blue book, floating somewhere around in the lost book collection in our house, that had to do with abusive parenting styles. It's a psychology book.

Ah ha. Here it is.
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I didn't get to read the entire book, but upon skimming through it, I found that my mother is listed under the Guilt Tripper category. All throughout my childhood and teen years, my mother used guilt to control me. One of the things that my mother would do is refuse to let me spend time with friends. I wasn't - for the most part - even allowed outside of my own bedroom without my mother's permission. She instructed me to stay there just about all the time, and to "leave everyone else alone". As a young girl and a teenager, my mother turned me into something of a recluse, (so if any of you ever wonder why I've never been to NEST or any other gathering ... ta-da. Side effects from the abuse). And if I did spend any time with friends - either at their house or mine - she would find a sneaky way to turn them against me, by either teasing them or smothering them until they were so uncomfortable to come over to our house, that they no longer wanted to spend time with me anymore. My mother almost always forced me to tell them to come over to her house - so she could make them uncomfortable, it's just that she didn't tell me that that was her intention, as I had to witness that for myself - and if I wanted to spend time at their house, I was only allowed to spend time at their house once or twice until she decided that they had to come to my house from then on, whereas my mother would proceed to tease them, usually their names, hug them profusely, and get too far into their personal space... Never leaving them be... Etc.

It was awful. I lost many friends because of that.

My point to all of this is that I am agreeing that there is a difference between living with someone and having that someone control you. I currently live with my parents, but you can bet that I'm trying desperately to get out, not because I am afraid that I will be looked down on for staying with them on into my 20s and 30s, but because my mother still thinks it's okay to tell me what to wear and how to look, and if I don't look a certain way, she has to guilt trip me - don't worry, however, as I no longer fall for her tricks anymore, but rather just get fed up with them and get into screaming matches with her until she finally fucks off for the day :disgust: - or act passive-aggressively until my whole day|week|month is ruined; because I have a stepfather who likes to cop feels on my ass and breast when my mother isn't looking; because I have told my mother this, but she called me a liar and a bitch for trying to get her to come to terms with this truth (that my stepfather is a pedo. as well as my biological father, who went to prison for about 13 years for sexual crimes against me when I was a toddler); and finally, last but not least ... because my stepfather threatened to perform sexual deviant acts on me, were my mother to no longer be around, therefore I have the ever increasing desire to escape current living conditions, lest I am forced into some sexual matter via my stepfather that might truly, fully push me over the edge.

...

With that being said, Mitch, I'm glad you have a good mother. Great moms are hard to come by.

I can attest to that, that's for damned sure.
 
Thanks, TT. I appreciate the support.

My father, who I haven't lived with in 22 years, is the abusive, controlling force in my life, or at least he tries to be. We got back together last summer after six years apart. I told him straight out that I want a relationship with him only, and not his family, because they all have a long, horrible history with me. So, instead of respecting my feelings, and feeling thankful that I'm even talking to him after all the shit he did to me, he will say things like "Cheryl (his wife) wants to meet you." For years, as my paternal grandmother and uncle were doing everything in their power to ruin my parents marriage, and my relationship with my dad. In spite of this my father would force me to see them, to satisfy his own needs, and theirs. It wasn't until I was 18, and an incident occurred, that I was able to tell them both to go to hell. My mom and my grandmother had a dispute, and I called my uncle to try and have him mediate. His reply was "I told your father to divorce your mother, and so what if you dont see your father". Pretty pathetic. I hung up, and have never uttered another word to him since.

Then, there's my father's wife. She married him when we were estranged, and passed judgement how I should "Call" my grandmother without ever meeting me, or knowing the facts of why my grandmother and I were estranged. I was infuriated, and have refused to meet her. It's bad enough when your father's wife marries him not giving a fuck that you're estranged, but even worse when she passes judgement. For thirty years, including currently, my father is forever trying to coerce and force these people down my throat. I have had brutal screaming fights with him, telling him ad naseuam that he has no fucking right to tell me who to see, and to shut the fuck up about his family, or I'm done with him. He's been trying to control who I see since I was 9. He succeeded for nine years, and since age 18, he can't do it. Many times, our estrangements were because I have not seen these people, and he cant accept it.

That is called a toxic parent, people. That is called control. Living with a mother when you have your own life is just circumstance. My father is far more deadly, and I haven't lived with him since I was 19, and never would.

TT, I thank God every day for my mom. As far as I see it, I only have one parent. I talk to my father now, but he's really not a parent. He is "Dad" in name only.

Mitch
 
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Thanks, TT. I appreciate the support.

My father, who I haven't lived with in 22 years, is the abusive, controlling fuck in my life, or at least he tries to be. We got back together last summer after six years apart. I told him straight out that I want a relationship with him only, and not his family, because they all have a long, horrible history with me. So, instead of respecting my feelings, and feeling thankful that I'm even talking to him after all the shit he did to me, he will say things like "Cheryl (his wife) wants to meet you." For years, as my paternal grandmother and uncle were doing everything in their power to ruin my parents marriage, and my relationship with my dad. In spite of this my father would force me to see them, to satisfy his own needs, and theirs. It wasn't until I was 18, and an incident occurred, that I was able to tell them both to go fuck themselves. My mom and my grandmother had a dispute, and I called my uncle to try and have him mediate. His reply was "I told your father to divorce your mother, and so what if you dont see your father". Pretty pathetic. I hung up, and have never uttered another word to him since.

Then, there's my father's wife. She married him when we were estranged, and passed judgement how I should "Call" my grandmother without ever meeting me, or knowing the facts of why my grandmother and I were estranged. I was infuriated, and have refused to meet her. It's bad enough when your father's wife marries him not giving a fuck that you're estranged, but even worse when she passes judgement. For thirty years, including currently, my father is forever trying to coerce and force these people down my throat. I have had brutal screaming fights with him, telling him ad naseuam that he has no fucking right to tell me who to see, and to shut the fuck up about his family, or I'm done with him. He's been trying to control who I see since I was 9. He succeeded for nine years, and since age 18, he can't do it. Many times, our estrangements were because I have not seen these people, and he cant accept it.

That is called a toxic parent, people. That is called control. Living with a mother when you have your own life is just circumstance. My father is far more deadly, and I haven't lived with him since I was 19, and never would.

TT, I thank God every day for my mom. As far as I see it, I only have one parent. I talk to my father now, but he's really not a parent. He is "Dad" in name only.

Mitch

You're welcome, Mitch. 🙂

I'm lucky my father was put in prison. My mother took the issue to court, but even though my pedophile father was placed in prison, my mother was still around to give me hell. What SHOULD have happened was my being placed in a good, permanent foster home, and never being with my mother nor my father ever again. My mother and my stepfather are drug junkies and we have been homeless thrice - once this year, and twice the last year - due to their drug addiction AND laziness. We're on our last financial straw right now and are getting ready to up and move to another state again so my father can get some temp. work here and there, quit some more, bitch about not having enough money and not having enough beer, getting drunk, smoking, etc. Once the move is final and I can get a place of my own, I plan on doing so, and once I am fully able to, I wish to cut all ties with my entire family, and rely solely on the aid of my friends, whom I trust and love and who trust and love me.

Interestingly enough, my mother has tried to force people down my throat all my life, too. I usually succeeded in getting away from some of it, but for the most part, I was forced to be around family members who really just pissed me off and aggravated me to no fucking end. Aside from that, my mother and my stepfather were the two worst people that I've been with since around 2003 and beyond. When I hit 13, my stepfather started to get handsy, and started to sneak peeks at me in the shower when my mother wasn't home, make sexually explicit comments about my panties (during laundry days), all of which I tried telling my mother about, to which she would simply shake her head at and ignore.

I consider both of my current parents to be toxic parents - and yes, losers - and I don't really want to have anything to do with them. Once I get them out of my life, the better off I will be. That is definite, and it's a goal that I aim towards.

Mitch, it's great that you still have a mother. I have one, but she never really was one. All of this I just told you is the tip of the iceberg based on what she did to me. There's much more I could go into, but I'm refraining because I know that this is your thread. 🙂 Regardless, I'm happy that I found someone on here that I can relate to in regards to family. That is something I'm very happy about.
 
TT, I'm very sorry to hear about how your mother and stepfather are, and that your father was put in prison.

Yes, I still have a mother. I've felt blessed every day of my life to have her.

I hope and pray that you can get your life settled, TT, and that you can get away from your mother and stepfather. Best of Luck to you always.

Take care.

Mitch
 
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