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Do You Honestly Think That Kurt Cobain's Death Was A Suicide?

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Officially on record NIRVANA frontman Kurt Cobain's death is officially a suicide; by self-inflicted shotgun shot.

However, there has been many speculation by fans and investigators that the death wasn't a cut and dry case of a suicide. I am also aware that Unsolved Mysteries had a little segment about his death.

I was just wondering, do you think Kurt's death was a straight forward suicide or do you think there was some sort of foul play involved? By foul play I don't necessarily mean murder but do you think he was alone or not, do you think someone knew about it and didn't report it in... etc?

What would you say?
 
Re: Do I honestly think blah blah blah...?

Nope.

Take one good look at Courtney "the fucking murderer" Love and tell me she didn't invariably pull the trigger.

If there's one thing I've learned from the aliens, it's that nothing is as it seems in this relentless schizm that we call the woild.

Da noive of noo joisey!!

Sorry, I luv saying that shit.

Great thread topic, btw.

Cheers. :wavingguy
 
I believe some forensic evidence has said that there is no way he could have shot himself after the way the gun was found\said to be positioned. I wont deny that he was manic depressed and it only grew more as his music became more popular and no longer his own

I definitely think Courtney Love had a role in it
 
Frankly, I've no idea. I'd assume it was a suicide though, unless there's evidence that I'm unaware of. I can't be doing with all these conspiracy theories.
 
Well until proven not I'm sticking with his death being a suicide. Course I do feel Courtney must have had some impact on the whole situation.
 
Oh I bet she had something to do with it, and I'm not saying that just because I like to blame things on her. 🙂
 
As far as i'm concerned, he commited <em>social</em> suicide when he showed up to the MTV Awards wearing a dress. :blaugh:
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I believe some forensic evidence has said that there is no way he could have shot himself after the way the gun was found\said to be positioned. I wont deny that he was manic depressed and it only grew more as his music became more popular and no longer his own

I definitely think Courtney Love had a role in it

Not only that, but I believe he was on Heroine... so how could he have shot himself when high as a mother-f-er?

There's a rumor/theory that Kurdt OD'd and so 'someone' (*cough* Courtney *cough*) shot him to 'spare him the pain'.

Basically, I don't think there's a way that he killed himself.
 
Not only that, but I believe he was on Heroine... so how could he have shot himself when high as a mother-f-er?

There's a rumor/theory that Kurdt OD'd and so 'someone' (*cough* Courtney *cough*) shot him to 'spare him the pain'.

Basically, I don't think there's a way that he killed himself.

Yea but he also had been doing Heroin for some time so some say he may had built up a resistance so he needed more to get high. At times, he was shooting up 3-4 times a week due to his stomach issues.
 
Yea but he also had been doing Heroin for some time so some say he may had built up a resistance so he needed more to get high. At times, he was shooting up 3-4 times a week due to his stomach issues.

True.

But again, I don't see how someone could do THAT much H and then shoot himself [with a shotgun, no less].

It doesn't add up, IMO.
 
I'll stick with it being a suicide until there's something beyond circumstancial evidence (and not particularly strong circumstantial evidence) which indicates otherwise.

The idea of a suicide just makes the most sense, he was subject to cyclical depression during most of his life, was in extreme pain that he could really only regulate with heroin, and, by all accounts, Courtney really was the control-freak bitch her detractors make her out to be and really wasn't very helpful in working with Kurt to get his demons under control.
 
I read this book a few years ago:

BookKobain.jpg


And, although it didn't directly give a completely solid answer at the end as to who did it-- A lot of the reports and statements given from Courtney and others who knew Kurt and Courtney's relationship, pointed quite a bit into her being the one who did it.

With today's ability to solve problems like this, they should honestly be able to figure out if it was a suicide or murder. Especially using ballistics testing and such forth. Unless they either already know if it was a suicide or not, or they're just wanting to keep it a mystery.

I mean honestly, would they not try anything they can to figure out the whys, how's and who's? It was Kurt Cobain. He was a well-known celebrity.

It just doesn't make sense that they slap suicide on it and leave it as be. Especially given the situation going on between Kurt and Courtney at the time with their relationship and the mutual drug use. Among other things.

It's a great book. Read it sometime.
 
I think Ill talk a bit about this thread tonight.

Wanna know what I think, tune in and listen....I do have some interesting info on this subject, believe it or not.

Rob
 
Who?





Drew

I agree, where was The Who during all this. I believe that Pete Townsend, John Entwhistle and Roger Daltrey probably broke into Kurt's house and shot him. Now all we need is a motive.

My other alternative theory involves a controlled implosion by the CIA...or am I getting my conspiracy theories mixed up?
 
I honestly don't know. On the one hand, Cobain was a depressed musician who had already attempted suicide once that the public is aware of. On the other hand, I recall hearing that the man had so many drugs in his system at the time, he should have been totally incapacitated. One wonders how he could have even lifted a shotgun let alone fire it.
 
I agree, where was The Who during all this. I believe that Pete Townsend, John Entwhistle and Roger Daltrey probably broke into Kurt's house and shot him. Now all we need is a motive.

My other alternative theory involves a controlled implosion by the CIA...or am I getting my conspiracy theories mixed up?



Ya know, I really did believe this theory that The Who broke into Kurt's house, then I thought of all the alibi's:

Pete Townsend was probably too drunk at the time to find his way to Seattle.

John Entwhistle was more than likely too pissed off to care....waiting on the other two to get their heads out of their asses and do Reunion Tour 43.

Roger Daltrey was probably too busy at loser Rock and Roll Fantasy Camp with Joe Walsh and Randy Bauchman.


Drew
 
Murder or suicide, it was great news for music lovers all over the world.
 
Man, the stupidity of sensationalist media never ceases to amaze me.

If you get ten forensic experts in the same room together, nine will unanimously vote on suicide and idiocy will compel the tenth to disagree.

"Well, we are all in agreeance here. Kurt Cobain died of a self inflicted gunshot wound."

"Now, now now. Let's not be too hasty."

"Johnson, we have already been over this. All evidence points to suicide."

"Oh, yes. The..."Evidence." Well, let's look at this so-called "evidence" shall we? When he was found, the police stated that his purple curtains were closed in his bedroom. Does nobody else find this just a little convenient? I mean, seriously, why on earth would a rock star buy purple curtains that were closed?"

"Johnson, for the love of go--"

"Not only that, but unlike the rest of you slackers, I have decided to call in some outside help. All the hollywood psychiatrists I have talked to on my cell phone in the last five minutes both agreed that it is IMPOSSIBLE that Kurt would have comitted suicide in his own bedroom. Judging by his emotional state, manic behaviour, and hair colour, the only place he would have ever comitted suicide would be on the Kremlin spire wearing green jean shorts! And let's not forget Courtney Love."

"Johnson, We have sixty three eye-witnesses that can place Ms. Love's whereabouts three hours before, during, and after the suicide."

"Yes. I find that just a little too convenient. Don't you think it's rather odd that ALL sixty three people were just milling about downtown doing absolutely nothing or the fact that none of them happened not to know each other AND just so happened to tell the exact same story that they all witnessed her loaded on heroine an demonstrating her impersonation of a chicken tripping out on acid to a group of twenty school children. Let's also not forget the truck driver who just haaaapened to drive down the exact street that that Courtney love was hopping across and screaming "I'm lil bunny foo foo!" He claims he almost ran her over...A likely story. Not only that, but I think it's way too convenient that a group of Japanese tourists just decided to up and visit the U.S.A. for the first time in their entire lives and--AND-- just so happened to capture all of this on their cameras and camcorders all showing the EXACT date and time in each and every frame!"

"Johnson? Have you been drinki--"

"Oh, come off it! You all know as well as I do that this suicide charge is as rediculous and unfounded as that Frank Sinatra dying of old age crap!"

"Johnson. Perhapse we can talk about this later."

"NO!!! I will not be stifled and I don't care who I have to talk to to get the truth out. Montel or Oprah, or my new publisher at Random house, or even the Choen brothers!"
 
I think he did it, he was notorious for being disturbed for a very long time. Add too much fame and too much money, too fast and a toxic partner like Courtney Love? Recipe for disaster.
XOXO

What would you say?
 
I believe he did is based solely on the fact that Courtney Love always had huge amounts of heroin in her system as well and probably couldn't have handled a shotgun either.
 
I believe some forensic evidence has said that there is no way he could have shot himself after the way the gun was found\said to be positioned. I wont deny that he was manic depressed and it only grew more as his music became more popular and no longer his own

I definitely think Courtney Love had a role in it

forensics didnt show he couldnt have done it was just unlikely
 
Jeez guys it was many years ago, let it pass, sure there are going to be theories but generally Im gonna trust the professionals who pronounced his death as suicide, and until solid evidence comes to light (which it never will) that he didnt do it to himself, Im just going to let his memory live on by listening to his music and appreciating it.

If you ask me this is just another Princess Diana 'lets find a scandal in trajedy' story...it sells papers, it sells books.

Let them both RIP guys!
 
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