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I have the friends I need. I don't need advice from you skip.
I come here for my love of tickling.
Infantalizing images of adult women is a huge turn off for me. There are sites that cater to that.
My gripe is that the new trends are watering down what I come here for: the tickling.

Okay - correct me if I'm wrong but YOU are the one that said you feel like you have to fit a certain mold to be considered a desirable lee. If you already have all the friends you need - why do you care what other people consider attractive?

If those women looking that way is a turn-off for you, do what's been suggested TWICE now, and turn off the sig option like a grown up instead of continuing to bitch about it.

Some of us are here, not only for the tickling, but for the community, which is from whence these new trends are emerging. If you're not here for the community, and only the tickling, then stick with the folks who are here for the same reason you are, and leave the other folks alone.
 
Okay - correct me if I'm wrong but YOU are the one that said you feel like you have to fit a certain mold to be considered a desirable lee. If you already have all the friends you need - why do you care what other people consider attractive?

If those women looking that way is a turn-off for you, do what's been suggested TWICE now, and turn off the sig option like a grown up instead of continuing to bitch about it.

Some of us are here, not only for the tickling, but for the community, which is from whence these new trends are emerging. If you're not here for the community, and only the tickling, then stick with the folks who are here for the same reason you are, and leave the other folks alone.

Far be it for me to encourage masturbation en masse, but everyone in this post need to perform the following: -

1) Knock one out.
2) Have a cold shower.
3) Chill.

Lets turn this mass debate into a masturbate?

What - too crude?:upsidedow
 
Far be it for me to encourage masturbation en masse, but everyone in this post need to perform the following: -

1) Knock one out.
2) Have a cold shower.
3) Chill.

Lets turn this mass debate into a masturbate?

What - too crude?:upsidedow

LOL shut up
 
I have the friends I need. I don't need advice from you skip.
I come here for my love of tickling.
Infantalizing images of adult women is a huge turn off for me. There are sites that cater to that.
My gripe is that the new trends are watering down what I come here for: the tickling.

Helena, I read your last post and my heart went out to you. I'm a woman of color, bisexual, very short and kinda plump...for all of my brashness for a time I truly wondered if I would find a place here among all the tall slim monogamous white women, and all the people who only seemed to see feet on a female :eek:. But I found out that as long as I was true to myself it just didn't matter. I believe the same for you. There are plenty of people who love tickling without the extras that some of us enjoy, like spanking and such. And they still post and they still belong here just as you do.

Now having said that, if you're going to be mean to people like Skippy who were hurt by your original post but are still trying to communicate with you, woman to woman....that says more about whether you belong here than if you enjoy a binky or not :idunno:
 
Helena, I read your last post and my heart went out to you. I'm a woman of color, bisexual, very short and kinda plump...for all of my brashness for a time I truly wondered if I would find a place here among all the tall slim monogamous white women, and all the people who only seemed to see feet on a female :eek:. But I found out that as long as I was true to myself it just didn't matter. I believe the same for you. There are plenty of people who love tickling without the extras that some of us enjoy, like spanking and such. And they still post and they still belong here just as you do.

Now having said that, if you're going to be mean to people like Skippy who were hurt by your original post but are still trying to communicate with you, woman to woman....that says more about whether you belong here than if you enjoy a binky or not :idunno:

That response probably explains why you're a moderator and i'm not.

My "knock one out" strategy doesn't really operate on the same level as your considered respose.

:smilestar
 
Far be it for me to encourage masturbation en masse, but everyone in this post need to perform the following: -

1) Knock one out.
2) Have a cold shower.
3) Chill.

Lets turn this mass debate into a masturbate?

What - too crude?:upsidedow

You know what? A hot shower is always nice. That's a good idea.
 
Say whatever, but the whining and crying act that corresponds with these sorts of threads by those who perpetrate the whole thing only shows their level of commitment: they are cowards.

A coward wouldn't have put their thoughts in print IMO. She didn't throw the rock then hide her hand; she posted her thoughts knowing it wasn't going to be popular and damn she was right!

This is another example of just keeping your opinions to yourself or take the consequences of exposing them. But I do understand why some would be pissed; there is a right and wrong way to discuss an issue-sorry Helena, you didn't choose your words thoughtfully. If you did, maybe you wouldn't be receiving the avalanche of attack posts you're getting. People don't like to be called out (this is something you and I have discussed before); hopefully you now have full understanding what I meant. Some things are just better left unsaid (or put differently).

Yes the TMF has changed; you can either ride the winds of it or get left behind. I'm NEVER going to put a binky in my mouth and I have no interest in being with another woman (that way). Everyone's grown around here and if that's your thing, that's your business. But it doesn't mean that I'm going to leave because there are so many subforums to hang out in that the changes don't bother me much at all.

I've only been to one gathering (hopefully that'll change next year 'cause I have travelling plans:D). There was no grope-fest; boundaries were respected and even when I decided to be the lee, they were gentlemen who treated me to a fun time. Gatherings are just that-people getting together for whatever. I've never heard of anything happening that wasn't consented to so no worries there.

I've been down this road many times before; nothing wrong with having an opinion. But unless you're like me possessing a strong "don't give a crap" gene combined with a pretty thick hide, you have to be careful expressing that opinion around here.
 
Helena said:
I have the friends I need. I don't need advice from you skip.

You should know better then most anyone else as you are considered a veteran, Helena. If you're going to post on public forum, expect public responses. Whether you like them or not. No need to chase other people off because they aren't feeding you the lines that you want to hear.

Unfortunately you choose to initially begin this thread in a directly negative manner. Your complaints (or) "questions" were not directed at a general group of people. They were specifically directed at a group of perhaps 15-20 in total. With the nuk and 'humping' comments reserved for 5 girls.

Myself included.

So, no. You desired to make a grouping of comments and "questions" like that? Expect some undesired "advice".

Helena said:
I come here for my love of tickling.

That's great. Who are you to say that we don't come here for *our* love of tickling as well? Who are you to make an assumption like that? Why do you think we joined the forum in the first place.

Take solace in the small fact that we all *DO* have at least one thing in common. Although, from the looks of it, that seems to disgust you because of our other interests. Or even how we choose to interact with each other.

Helena said:
Infantalizing images of adult women is a huge turn off for me. There are sites that cater to that.

Helena, we're not here to turn you on. I'm sorry. But we're not. Remember, some of us are heterosexual women, just like you. We don't have a fetish for infantalizing. We have a fetish for tickling. That's why we're here.

Helena said:
My gripe is that the new trends are watering down what I come here for: the tickling.

Judging from the massive list of threads that Artoo provided a few pages back; I don't see much watering down going on.


Helena said:
I used to feel that the tickling discussion area was my favorite to visit. It seems like the site is incorporating new things in addition to the tickling like sucking on pacifiers, baby talk, pig tails and spanking as requirements for being a desirable lee.

There are requirements for being a desirable lee? I wasn't aware of this. Where are these requirements posted? Who made these requirements?

Clearly a lot of people here seem to be getting confused and need a refresher course on "baby talk".

"Lawlspeak" is not baby talk. Have you ever taken care of or interacted with an infant? And found yourself cooing or proclaiming some line of shit like; I don't know.. "goo" or "ga"? That is baby talk. And if you look at some of the representations of internet short-hand? It's not even considered lazy speaking all the way around, because some words are longer then their initial spelling.

Everything that you mentioned as per being "requirements" are unjust on all sides of the board.

Helena said:
I look at myself and wonder where that leaves me. Definitely not with the nooks. So, I feel like....who is left that still finds just tickle-loving girls desirable?

Funny.

I went to NEST and didn't sport a nuk. I didn't hump anyone and I never wore pigtails once, and I was (as well as other girls that weren't involved in those "requirements") involved in tickling scenes.

I also played with a few people at NHLee and wasn't sporting any of the aforementioned as well. As well as Cassi and Amanda and Bella.

You could've attempted to justify your actions in the beginning of this thread, but you never did. So, it's hard for me, personally, to sit here and view any of that quoted post as genuine. You slapped at a small group of people and they bit back.

Helena said:
The words "omnonmon", and "humping" and lots of girl to girl love is pretty predominant. I like guys. I'm never going to be bisexual.

Well, this answers my previously posed question about why you felt the need to include the fact that you were a heterosexual woman. At least one thing got cleared up.

Again, who are you to lay judgment that because some of girls are loving and touchy-feely automatically makes us bi-sexual?

You want to get really direct? I enjoy kissing girls. I enjoy a female's body and I will definitely grab onto a rack of tits just because I want to. I've been like that for years. Doesn't make me a straight up bi-sexual.

The only reason you can claim it's predominant is because the ones that do it are more "seen" on the forum. Just because that is, doesn't make it some brand new thing.

And, seriously, "omnomnom" -- Enjoy a piece of food. We even made an emoticon for forum that is stated as "omnomnom". Stop using that as an excuse.

Helena said:
From the outside, and the pictures that were posted from the gatherings, it seems from my outside point of view, that there is quite a bit of kissing and groping that goes on with the tickling at the gatherings.

And you're welcome to your opinion. As wrong as it may be. You're welcome to it. I guess you'll just have to come to a gathering and figure it out for yourself.

But again, that involves you having to take more initiative instead of laying blatant judgment.

Helena said:
For the last month, I've been in the silly section basically, and the celebration forum. I come here for tickling, but it's not really what I find here like I once did...at least in the same form.

Then start a damn thread, Helena. Judging by this thread you are completely aware how to do it. Don't sit here and make a thread pointing fingers and making rude, snide comments at the few of us that express ourselves a bit more freely then YOU DEEM appropriate.

Amnesiac said:
...but am I the only one who interpreted Helena's original post as reflecting a sense of being left out?

No. You're not. But, this isn't just a case of being left out.
 
I say who cares ? The kinda talk your talking about is only done by a select few who are close friends so its their way of expressing their friendship.
 
You want to get really direct? I enjoy kissing girls. I enjoy a female's body and I will definitely grab onto a rack of tits just because I want to. I've been like that for years. Doesn't make me a straight up bi-sexual.

Or does it? hmmmmm....

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Wow.

Helena, there's a MASSIVE amount of factions here.

We've heard precious little from the watersports kids here in the tickling world. Who? Them folks that dig it when their 'lee pees themselves. Visible in the stories section, it's quiet here, largely due to folks deriding their interest.

Not my thing. It sorta squicks me. I don't have issues with THEM diggin' it, or talkin' 'bout it, but when UserNameX discusses this interest, I'm gonna check another post.

True for the violent kidnap fans, top and bottom. Not my cuppa, but I support their right to play and enjoy within legal means.

True for those into costuming for it. Not my cuppa, and rock on wit' your costumes, kids.

Find your similars, here. Those folk who discuss the stuff you like.

Gatherings ain't for everyone. Colloquialisms change. Costuming varies.

We're all still a group of folks who share an interest in tickling. It's just a huge group now, thus there's a LOT of variation. Hope you find your place in this, you and everyone feelin' as you do. :)
 
Wow.

Helena, there's a MASSIVE amount of factions here.

We've heard precious little from the watersports kids here in the tickling world. Who? Them folks that dig it when their 'lee pees themselves. Visible in the stories section, it's quiet here, largely due to folks deriding their interest.

Not my thing. It sorta squicks me. I don't have issues with THEM diggin' it, or talkin' 'bout it, but when UserNameX discusses this interest, I'm gonna check another post.

True for the violent kidnap fans, top and bottom. Not my cuppa, but I support their right to play and enjoy within legal means.

True for those into costuming for it. Not my cuppa, and rock on wit' your costumes, kids.

Find your similars, here. Those folk who discuss the stuff you like.

Gatherings ain't for everyone. Colloquialisms change. Costuming varies.

We're all still a group of folks who share an interest in tickling. It's just a huge group now, thus there's a LOT of variation. Hope you find your place in this, you and everyone feelin' as you do. :)


I would only add that if we eliminated everything here that pissed off any small (or large) group of people, then we would have nothing left at all...

Kill the rick rolls, photo manips, non con fantasy stories, nudity, M/m F/F ?/? and all the pandoring and banality of the silly stuff forum and what do we have left.....NADA.....

Each of these things is a turnoff to others here on the forum. We do not have to participate in all of them to feel we belong here......
 
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I would only add that if we eliminated everything here that pissed off any small (or large) group of people, then we would have nothing left at all...

Kill the rick rolls, photo manips, non con fantasy stories, nudity, M/m F/F ?/? and all the pand R and banality of the silly stuff forum and what do we have left.....NADA.....

Each of these things is a turnoff to others here on the forum. We do not have to participate in all of them to feel we belong here......

Very well said...
 
Wait...there's costumes with tickling? Seriously?? That sounds kinda hot. How the hell did I not know this?!?
Cy/MiG, Adam...guys, what the hell did I put you on the payroll for? This was never included in my Intel reports!
Really, that sounds fun. :veryhappy

Oh yeah, costumes are full of win! ;)
But I repsect those who disagree with costumes and choose not to wear them. They certainly do not take my enjoyment of the forum away from me, and I would hope that my costume-wearing would not take away their enjoyment of the TMF either.
 
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omg. Artoo... Sandrock.

ARTOO.. you Promised. :(

ANYWAYS.


I would only add that if we eliminated everything here that pissed off any small (or large) group of people, then we would have nothing left at all...

Kill the rick rolls, photo manips, non con fantasy stories, nudity, M/m F/F ?/? and all the pandoring and banality of the silly stuff forum and what do we have left.....NADA.....

Each of these things is a turnoff to others here on the forum. We do not have to participate in all of them to feel we belong here......

Wow.

Helena, there's a MASSIVE amount of factions here.

We've heard precious little from the watersports kids here in the tickling world. Who? Them folks that dig it when their 'lee pees themselves. Visible in the stories section, it's quiet here, largely due to folks deriding their interest.

Not my thing. It sorta squicks me. I don't have issues with THEM diggin' it, or talkin' 'bout it, but when UserNameX discusses this interest, I'm gonna check another post.

True for the violent kidnap fans, top and bottom. Not my cuppa, but I support their right to play and enjoy within legal means.

True for those into costuming for it. Not my cuppa, and rock on wit' your costumes, kids.

Find your similars, here. Those folk who discuss the stuff you like.

Gatherings ain't for everyone. Colloquialisms change. Costuming varies.

We're all still a group of folks who share an interest in tickling. It's just a huge group now, thus there's a LOT of variation. Hope you find your place in this, you and everyone feelin' as you do. :)

QFTW.

oops.

Quoted For The Win.
 
Ok, having kept tabs on this thread I wanna offer my opinion.

Helena, I like you, but throwing stones at a select few because they suck pacifiers and use "pwn" isn't right. It's their choice, they're legal adults and they can play as they wish.

Like me, my kinks extend far beyond tickling, from BDSM and pain to sensory deprivation.

I don't suck a pacifier day to day, but I will admit I DO enjoy being treated like a little girl, down to dressing like a little girl and wearing pigtails and being gagged with a pacifier.

I'm not bi or lesbian, but if the girls wanna kiss and display their open affections, then let them. It's fine, it's not like they shove it down your throat saying, "LIKE IT OR GTFO!"

...hold on...my mom needs me.....tbc.

Ok! I am back.

So anyways, I am sorry that you feel that way but you know, what can you really do?
 
I have the friends I need. I don't need advice from you skip.

Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be, because I'm not going to go back to the first few pages to find this), but didn't you tell someone that you came here asking questions and seeking advice? Hmm. Seems to me that Lyz gave you some very SOLID advice: there isn't any specific list of qualities that men find attractive in a 'lee, so quit worrying, and just do your thing. Besides, if you have all the friends you need, then what was the OP's point? You aren't actually feeling left out? You just wanna bitch? What? I'm a little confused.

I come here for my love of tickling.

Really? Me, too. Plus, you know, the friendships I've made.

Infantalizing images of adult women is a huge turn off for me. There are sites that cater to that.

As Jo said, we're not here to turn you on. Also...this site doesn't necessarily cater to feet either...it's mostly tickling. But feet have found their way here, as well as a plethora of other fetishes...much like dvnc described.

My gripe is that the new trends are watering down what I come here for: the tickling.

Wow. Gee. I guess you haven't noticed that there's 80,000 members now. And a nice chunk of us have formed...what's that word? A community? Yeah. That's it. A community. And with the community comes friendship. And with friendship comes a fuck of a lot more than just tickling. So stick to the tickling forum and the pr0nz (porn, for you net-speak illiterate) if that's all that interests you. And I'll stick to talking lolspeak with my friends, as well as shelling out the inside jokes, physical affection, and insightful conversation - that's not about tickling.

And I'm glad you're admitting to griping now and not that bullcrap about just making some general observation.


Clearly a lot of people here seem to be getting confused and need a refresher course on "baby talk".

"Lawlspeak" is not baby talk. Have you ever taken care of or interacted with an infant? And found yourself cooing or proclaiming some line of shit like; I don't know.. "goo" or "ga"? That is baby talk. And if you look at some of the representations of internet short-hand? It's not even considered lazy speaking all the way around, because some words are longer then their initial spelling.

Thank you for addressing this. I meant to when drew70 made the same remark about "baby talk" but I forgot in all of my pigtailed fury towards Helena.

Seriously, folks. Lolspeak...baby talk...really? You REALLY see a connection there? Apparently some people aren't smart enough to disassociate binks with lawltalk.


I say who cares ? The kinda talk your talking about is only done by a select few who are close friends so its their way of expressing their friendship.

For once, we agree.
 
Correct me if I'm wrong (and I very well may be, because I'm not going to go back to the first few pages to find this), but didn't you tell someone that you came here asking questions and seeking advice? Hmm. Seems to me that Lyz gave you some very SOLID advice: there isn't any specific list of qualities that men find attractive in a 'lee, so quit worrying, and just do your thing. Besides, if you have all the friends you need, then what was the OP's point? You aren't actually feeling left out? You just wanna bitch? What? I'm a little confused.



Really? Me, too. Plus, you know, the friendships I've made.



As Jo said, we're not here to turn you on. Also...this site doesn't necessarily cater to feet either...it's mostly tickling. But feet have found their way here, as well as a plethora of other fetishes...much like dvnc described.



Wow. Gee. I guess you haven't noticed that there's 80,000 members now. And a nice chunk of us have formed...what's that word? A community? Yeah. That's it. A community. And with the community comes friendship. And with friendship comes a fuck of a lot more than just tickling. So stick to the tickling forum and the pr0nz (porn, for you net-speak illiterate) if that's all that interests you. And I'll stick to talking lolspeak with my friends, as well as shelling out the inside jokes, physical affection, and insightful conversation - that's not about tickling.

And I'm glad you're admitting to griping now and not that bullcrap about just making some general observation.




Thank you for addressing this. I meant to when drew70 made the same remark about "baby talk" but I forgot in all of my pigtailed fury towards Helena.

Seriously, folks. Lolspeak...baby talk...really? You REALLY see a connection there? Apparently some people aren't smart enough to disassociate binks with lawltalk.




For once, we agree.

:) yup . So it is possible
 
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