Expressing our opinions

[TummyDragon]

TummyDragon


When you post a topic, its there for responses or opinions. Thats how this works.

When you post a topic, it's there for the subject of the topic, guided by the content of the original poster. It shouldn't be open to any and all unsolicited opinions or judgements.

People who share our fetish tend feel isolated enough in real life. There's no reason they should be made to feel isolated or rejected inside the tickling community just so some members can "express their opinions".

The right to express an opinion ends at the moment it belittles a post, desire, or fantasy of another.

 

[ticklkitten]

This is interesting TummyDragon... because yjgfn had some serious problems with me in the past because he thought I was being off topic in a thread of his in General Discussion which even the mods backed me on. I do agree with you I just don't think yjg's opinion is fully formed yet.

 

[chode]

The opion was on topic and not belittling. It was curiosity. And talking about dogs who are beaten has nothing to do with the topic i posted. And nothing to do with an opinion of the topic. We can go back and forth all day. Unfortunately i have other things to be doing. And that would consist of tickling a very attractive girl in about 30 miinutes. So stay here the rest of the day if you like. Have a great afternoon everyone.

And an opinion is just that. Belittling someone is a whole nother art form that i will not throw out in this forum.

 

[Mitchell]

This isnt directed at anyone, but a general statement. I happen to agree with Tummy 100% on this one. To me, an opinion, even a critical one, should be expressed only if it can aid the posters, or offers analysis of the post or stories. For instance, I have had people post about me:" Your stories suck, or are boring". This to me is belittling, wrong, and we know is against forum rules. If someone wants to post a criticism saying:" This story is repetitive, or is weak in tickling, content or characterization." Or, on another issue, I disagree with this poster's points because I feel he/she is being too overly critical, judgemental, or isnt analyizing things right" That to me is constructive criticism. The idea of attacking and belittling someone for a post or story is wrong, and contributes nothing to the forum, or the improvement of material on the forums.
Again, another general statement not directed at anyone: I believe that some on this forum are just here to stir up trouble, fight with others, and not contribute to the constructive improvement of the forums in any way. Those people should have their posts removed, and should be removed, in my opinion. If you disagree with someone, or their posts, saying so in a constructive way can be productive, and beneficial, to both the original poster, of whatever material was criticiqued, and those critiquing the material. The other type of posts, just to insult, and flame, are rude, and conterproductive, and also serve to be hurtful.

Just my view.
Mitch

 

[Hosetickler23]

I'm the Isolated one

I'm a very self oriented person being a solo person allows me to maintain that role I try very hard to be as civil as possible so to apologise to anyone I insulted I am very sorry you know the old saying opinions are like A__holes everybody has one I do want to maintain my outcast status I worked very hard for it 😀

 

[ticklkitten]

Belittling someone is a whole nother art form that i will not throw out in this forum.

But it is exactly what you did to me. I'm just trying to make you see that you are contradicting yourself. Maybe we have different definitions? I won't go back and forth with you because the mods backed me up and that is all I needed.

And in response to what Mitchell said, I agree 100%. I see myself as being as nice as they come. I also take insults very seriously and they don't improve me in any way or form. They only hurt and make me less likely to try to improve the forum with my presence.

 

[TMF Jeff]

We've been working very hard lately to keep that tone from gaining a toehold in the forum.

We have the Golden Rule for a reason, and we've been trying to really crack down on people who take advantage of the fairly gentle moderating that we do here.

In short that kind of rudeness is not ok with us, and if you feel like it's happening, you should use the "report post" function at the bottom of every post.

Also, if one person in particular is annoying you, you can "ignore" that user and you won't see their posts anymore. I personally think this kind of social correction is very effective. People who are, to be blunt, assholes should find themselves being ignored by more and more people until they are essentially ostracized from our community. Overall I consider that to be a much better solution than having the moderators act, although obviously sometimes that's unavoidable.

 

[ticklkitten]

And for the most part I think the forum is a pretty friendly place... I don't get too much criticism.

 

[Hosetickler23]

I find that unless I have something constructive to say I don't say anything at although I usually say very little anyway

 

[Mitchell]

Jeff, this is my view. First, I want to thank you and the other mods for enforcing the rules as you do. There was one jackass in particular, whose name I will not mention because the issue has been handled, who flamed two stories of mine last week, and was warned by Myriads at least two times that I know of. Then, tonight, he placed severe spam on the forum flaming both me, and my character, and even outrageously suggested that I should leave or be banned. He had no merit behind his posts, as I did nothing against rules to receive a ban, or even warning, and he did it just to be an ass.
This individual has now received a ban. I was happy that the mods involved, Myriads, and Mimi in particular on this issue, enforced the GR. The jerk was warned, twice, and didnt listen, so now he is gone, as he should be.
Kitten, I agree with your post. The rules should be enforced, and people should learn to respect each others rights and differences as civily as possible. Iam glad that the mods have been cracking down on the troublemakers, as perhaps now we can have a kinder forum, where even if people dont agree, we can disagree, respect each others rights, and do so in a way that isnt hurtful. We all have enough going on in our lives to not have to be flamed here. This place should be fun. Iam a realistic person, I know that everyone on here wont agree with me, and might express opinion that I dont like. In fact, there have been times I have questioned Myriads about whether posts were flames, and he let them stand, as they should, because the post was about a story I did, and the person criticizing them gave a valid reason for their post, such as, "this story is repetetive, or doesnt have enough tickling", or other reasons. That I accept, but when you have someone who suggests that one leave the forum or never post or write anything anymore just to be a jerk, those are the ones I advocate being gone, as happened with this jerk tonight.
I think we all tend to feel uncomfortable if we are criticized. The fact is, I dont like it, but if it's about a valid issue, or is a point for criticism, such as a political post, or a post criticizing something for a valid reason, I may not agree, but I accept it. Posts made just to hurt others are cruel, and have no basis here. For those folks, action like the one taken against the jerk tonight is the proper one, and is one reason why I'm glad Myriads and Jeff have the GR rule.

Mitch

 

[ticklkitten]

As always Mitch, I agree with you one hundred percent. You so eloquently state the argument that I am afraid to fight. Awesome job!

 

[etwoods]

Uh

I think you put a little too much faith in banning. You actually think anyone is ever banned? You actually don't believe that people who want to be here will be here no matter what? I have 2 words for you Dynamic IP. You people are so amusing. I just hope that these mods don't ban someone who knows more than they do about web sites and forums and so forth. You see, someone with a vindictive personality could easily corrupt this site without much problem. I am not saying I know anyone in particular but I am just giving a little food for thought.

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Even a dynamic IP has its roots. Enough activity and it can still be traced to it's owner with the aid of the ISP. Hiding behind it is a fool's method of bullying people online. Like any bully, the tables eventually turn and they end up eating the very shit they dish out.

Ann

 

[TMF Jeff]

Re: Uh

I think you put a little too much faith in banning. You actually think anyone is ever banned? You actually don't believe that people who want to be here will be here no matter what? I have 2 words for you Dynamic IP. You people are so amusing. I just hope that these mods don't ban someone who knows more than they do about web sites and forums and so forth. You see, someone with a vindictive personality could easily corrupt this site without much problem. I am not saying I know anyone in particular but I am just giving a little food for thought.

People who cause trouble get banned, and if they want to keep coming back and showing their ass under different names, I'm not particularly concerned. The banning is the elimination of their name and reputation more than anything else.

Anything more than that, real harassment of the forum by devious means, I would handle legally by going to their ISP or eventually even more than that. The FBI is the government agency in charge of dealing with hackers who interfere with legal businesses, and despite the fetish nature of the forum I would have no problem at all using the legal avenues available to me.

 

[Stevereeno]

If you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen. As long as "it" exists, "it" will happen and somebody will experience "it" at one point or another in life. Either by giving or receiving or both.

it = criticism

 

[chode]

Good way to put it steve

 

[ticklkitten]

If you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen. As long as "it" exists, "it" will happen and somebody will experience "it" at one point or another in life. Either by giving or receiving or both.

it = criticism

But if you check out the homepage for the forum, we proudly refer to it as "the flame free forum". That means that although people are entitled to their opinions, they don't need to post them here if they are damaging in their nature. Those are the rules. If someone doesn't like them, they can't play here anymore.

 

[TummyDragon]

If you cannot take the heat, get out of the kitchen. As long as "it" exists, "it" will happen and somebody will experience "it" at one point or another in life. Either by giving or receiving or both.

it = criticism

Or, if you love to dish out heat, then be banished to the kitchen.

While I wouldn't attempt to debate that criticism doesn't exist in the real world, there is an obvious difference between a good critique or constructive criticism, and someone just being an ass with vitriolic seething sarcasm, or just spouting off at the mouth (or keyboard) something obviously meant to be degrading.

The attitude of "I'll look good by making them look bad" has zero place in the community. Period.

 

[gibby59]

Hey!! I'll tickle kitten in the kitchen with the candlestick!! 😉

 

[chode]

"The attitude of "I'll look good by making them look bad" has zero place in the community. Period."




Just because an opinion doesnt agree with someone doesnt mean its meant to make something or someone look bad and the other party look good. But in my OPINION, i see that happen quite a bit around here but in a different context. Its happening in this thread. And in the majority of alot of the others i have read recently. No need for me to point it out and i would be extremely suprised if any of you know as to what im refering. No matter. Time to move on. And jeff.....i can block ANYONE? Are there any exceptions?

 

[JoBelle]

A newspaper editorial once said, "We do our best to make our paper one that everyone can enjoy. That being said, if you run across a few mistakes, please disregard them. Some people are only happy when they have somethieng to complain about ....we leave the errors in there for them."

In a forum, the complainers are just creating the problem themselves for their singular enjoyment.

2cents,
Jo

 

[chode]

I agree Jo-B

 

[venray]

You can block anyone here except a moderator. You will not get PMs from those you block nor do you have to see any of ther posts.

As for those who think they know more than those running the forum...

Well...let them think what they will..there are many ways to handle those that would post just to be asses......

😉


Ray

 

[TummyDragon]

"The attitude of "I'll look good by making them look bad" has zero place in the community. Period."

Just because an opinion doesnt agree with someone doesnt mean its meant to make something or someone look bad and the other party look good. But in my OPINION, i see that happen quite a bit around here but in a different context. Its happening in this thread. And in the majority of alot of the others i have read recently. No need for me to point it out and i would be extremely suprised if any of you know as to what im refering. No matter. Time to move on. And jeff.....i can block ANYONE? Are there any exceptions?

Okay, let me spell out my "opinion" in a little more detail.

If a person posts "Underarm tickling is better than foot tickling!", and someone replies "Man are you delusional! Foot tickling Rules!!".. there is no animosity, no ill or hurt feelings. It's just fun banter....

however, if someone posts "I'd really love to see my wife tickled, does anyone else have any wife tickling fantasies or stories?"

and someone responds "Tickling outside of marriage is just wrong. blah blah blah...Just my opinion."

That's a response that has nothing positive to offer. It's a judgement of the original post and of the fantasy (under the "just my opinion" label) and has no place here, or anywhere in the community for that matter. The "opinion" of wife tickling wasn't asked for. The original poster did not ask to debate the morality of wife tickling or to have his fantasy judged by anyone. To reply with an "opinion" which calls into question the morality of another's fantasy is ridiculous, and especially so on a fetish/fantasy forum.

This "just my opinion" moniker takes on many facets, most of which are nothing more than the attempt to remove any responsibility one carries for the content of his or her judgemental post by labeling something offensive as "my opinion".

 

[Stevereeno]

Everybody who has posted under this topic has just criticized people for criticizing. Espicially by the way some have quoted others and then stated what they thought. Like I stated earlier, it happens. Try to understand why people criticize before criticizing. Those who criticize with the intent to hurt may have been hurt by criticism. kind of like a bully picking on a person to make himself or herself feel good.