Foot and Tickle Fetish Producer AMA

[Soles_Scream]

Any fetish content producer can answer questions as well. Everyone else, ask away.

 

[d75tkj]

Based on your experience, what's the number one reason you can think of that one should start producing their own content? And, what's the number one reason that one should not?

 

[hefophre]

how much money do you earn from this in sales, customs, etc. and how much are your production cost - typical fees, equipment cost, and time to invest?

 

[Soles_Scream]

Based on your experience, what's the number one reason you can think of that one should start producing their own content? And, what's the number one reason that one should not?

I believe the number one reason to start producing your own content is if you believe there are enough people out there will support your production monetarily.

The number one reason one should not get into production is if they are trying to fill their loneliness (one won't get a girlfriend doing this), lack of fetish experience, or horniness.

 

[Soles_Scream]

how much money do you earn from this in sales, customs, etc. and how much are your production cost - typical fees, equipment cost, and time to invest?

Every producer's experience is different. I've paid over 100K on my production over a 5-year period between bookings, compliance, equipment, etc. My day job and no other hobbies is how I was able to do it. What would have gone to a 401K was spent on my fetish company instead.

I do not do customs as of yet, so I have no feedback there.

Making premade only content, it can take half a year or longer to recoup the money from booking a respective model from that specific shoot. Some don't sale very much for whatever reason. I also choose not to dive into bondage tickling, tickle torture, or gratuitous nude content (not that there's anything wrong with any of that and they can generate more sales which is why many go that route). I'm just now breaking even on the respective year's model expenses and what not. It took 5 years to get to that point. Extreme yearly losses the first 3 years. Granted I dove in and shot like crazy.

What many of you may not be aware of is the money lost from cancellations. If I have to cancel a shoot, I pay the model at least half which is industry standard. I pay in full if I have to cancel the week of. I've spent thousands on one instance because I got Covid. I also eat bookings that don't go well. As a male producer especially, we generally eat our own mistakes financially as well as those of others.

Storage costs are a few hundred
Editing software is a hundred
Model fees which are no less than 100/hr. I book on average 4 hours.
Travel
Cleaning supplies
Snacks for models
It's 10 hours a week of pure administrative work (uploading to stores, making descriptions, editing, reaching out to talent, advertising the content). 40+ hours at the day job.
Location rentals
Camera person or producer's assistant - runs about 50/hr on average

It's a massive investment.

 

[h0pelessr0mance]

Yes the reality is the job is not as glamorous as people would expect lol.

 

[Soles_Scream]

Yes the reality is the job is not as glamorous as people would expect lol.

Correct. It's stressful as hell in general, and especially if you want to maintain a solid reputation. Models talk, and if a producer is brand new with no verifiable store and or is seen as not professional (thinks with their dick) at best the rates they are quoted to shoot will be super high or the model will not shoot with them altogether.

Shoot days are a ball of stress for me. The anxiety of whether my lights, cameras, and SD cards will work. Whether the model will show up on time with presentable feet. Will they be in the headspace that will allow them to be sensitive enough to do tickle scenes. If they aren't ticklish that day, do I have a solid grasp of their boundaries and abilities to alter scenes to make up for scaping the tickle scene that I had initially planned.

Do I have cleaning wipes on hand and sealed snacks and sealed drinks for them to keep their energy up. Hoping that the model has good chemistry with whoever else I might pair them with on set.

For the ticklers out there, can I ensure the ler model tickles in the way that I need her too. I don't shoot tickle torture content, but 99% of the industry does so I have to try and break the TT habit for at least that shoot.

Platform risk. Governmental regulatory risk is huge. This is one of the reasons C4S and other platforms have cut many categories and wiped out a lot of legacy content from their stores. Banks like Wells Fargo and Chase will shut fetish entire accounts down if they know it's in relation to porn (which all tickle content is considered btw).

Deplatforming on major advertising spaces like IG and YT. Getting taxes on one end but receiving little benefits on the other. Try getting a loan or something when the lender knows exactly how you make your money.

This has happened to others, but thankfully not to me- yet, but what do you do if a model shows up super high or drunk on your set? What do you do if there's a payment dispute? What if you take a customer order the customer wants a specific model to be foot tickled and he wants her to have pedicured feet, and you book the space and what not, and she shows up with busted toes.

Then, you see folks sharing your content online for free when you haven't even gotten a single sale from that clip.

Anyways, the list can go on, but you get the point.

 

[h0pelessr0mance]

Honestly that last part is the biggest issue imo. People want the satisfaction, but don't understand these things take money lol.

 

[Comfort Eagle]

1. So far there’s been a lot of cons mentioned, but what are the pros of being a tickle producer?

1. It's fun. Even though shooting clips is "work" and not a session, every time has been really fun. Especially on how much you enjoy cameras, it's really enjoyable just pretending to be a micro-level director and "making a video". Made even better when the model is in a good mood and bantering back with you.

 

[Soles_Scream]

1. So far there’s been a lot of cons mentioned, but what are the pros of being a tickle producer?
2. You mentioned that producing doesn’t necessarily satisfy your own personal fetish needs. Does that imply that you still seek these needs through other avenues?
3. Can you elaborate more on the ticklish headspace of the models? What have you found that helps put models in a more ticklish “mood”?

1. I love working with models, tickling, and foot worship. I prefer sessions more - don’t have to worry about cameras and such - but like Comfort mentioned, we are sharing something we love. I love owning my own business.

Don’t get me wrong. I love tickling women, but doing it for production is not as fulfilling from a pure fetish standpoint as doing it where all you’re concerned with is the model having fun while you enjoy your kink(s) with them.

2. My GF doesn’t have a tickle fetish, but indulges me sometimes. She’s a SW so she has session clients and knows that’s what I was (and still have it in me) when we met.

She co-runs Texas Foot Parties so I indulge in foot tickle sessions as well as worship there. I have toyed with the idea of doing real time sessions or play parties to get more tickle and foot fetish fix.

What I don’t want is to blur the lines for the talent. Not sure if I’ll just pursue sessions with models I don’t shoot with or some other type of situation.

Let me also point out that I do not engage with free play with models I work with. When things like that happen, it usually ends up negatively blowing up in the producer’s face at some point. Also, I want my intentions clear when I reach out to talent so they don’t have to guess.

3. Sometimes models are a healthy level of ticklish normally, but various things can affect their degree of sensitivity. Over stimulation, depression, being high, undisclosed injury, anxiousness, fatigue, being hungover, etc can all be causes.

If you want to make authentic content as a tickle producer, you’ll want to come up with plan B scenarios if the model turns out not to react the way you’d like her to or just not ticklish that day altogether.

If the model knows that the producer (or session/play partner for that matter) are putting their (the model’s) well being above all else, that tends to make them more comfortable and by extension, more sensitive.

Everyone’s different of course, but anecdotally and from my experience, the above is true.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Why do some producers refuse to work with models who have the kink? Either that or expect them to work for free? I have some minor theories but still don’t fully understand the logic.

 

[pitayatickler]

Great post, very helpful

 

[pitayatickler]

Would you say that foot fetish content sells better than tickling content?

Also, which communities do you use to advertise your clips or post previews? (Besides c4s and tmf). Do you pay for ads?


Keep up the good work

 

[ihatethisyo]

If the model knows that the producer (or session/play partner for that matter) are putting their (the model’s) well being above all else, that tends to make them more comfortable and by extension, more sensitive.

This is awesome to hear! It really just sounds like be a decent human being and good things will happen. Even when it comes to someone being more ticklish haha.

 

[MeatyBreastedDullness]

I'll bite...I've always wanted to know how do you just randomly go up to a woman and pitch this idea to them?

 

[pitayatickler]

I'll bite...I've always wanted to know how do you just randomly go up to a woman and pitch this idea to them?

I've been creating content since january. I did exactly that and got rejected a lot. Probably 2 out of 100 agreed. I tried to be very respectful, open minded and professional with both of them, they had a great time and they just told her friends. I kept doing that and now I just work with friends of friends from the first 2 models, so I stopped asking randomly

 

[MeatyBreastedDullness]

I've been creating content since january. I did exactly that and got rejected a lot. Probably 2 out of 100 agreed. I tried to be very respectful, open minded and professional with both of them, they had a great time and they just told her friends. I kept doing that and now I just work with friends of friends from the first 2 models, so I stopped asking randomly

What were some of the reactions when you would ask them?

 

[pitayatickler]

What were some of the reactions when you would ask them?

Most of them just straight blocked me. A bunch of them told me things like "I'm not a *****" or "why would you even ask me to do things like that?".
Very few of them told me they weren't interested.
Out of the two girls that accepted at first, there was a third one that was cool with it but asked for references, which I did not have at the time.

 

[Soles_Scream]

Why do some producers refuse to work with models who have the kink? Either that or expect them to work for free? I have some minor theories but still don’t fully understand the logic.

Jezebel, I’m going to answer the question as though the producer is sales oriented and not a scumbag. Also, I’m not talking about anyone here or wherever, this is just what I know and or observed and interpreted from 5 years in this industry.

I’ve been wrestling with how exactly to answer this question. Here’s a non PC answer to your first question. I can tackle the second question without an example.

Some producers pass on booking some models for a number of reasons:

- They do not think the model’s reactions will sale well in their store. For example, a really ticklish person who doesn’t actually laugh.

- They may not be face out (i.e. want their faces hidden). I only shoot models who are face out for example.

- The model may be considered unreliable/not professional.

- The model’s rates may be outside of
producers budget.

- The model’s limits don’t fit squarely with what a producer shoots. If a model isn’t open to receiving foot worship, which is half my content, I’m most likely not going to book them.

- The model may not fit the aesthetic of what the producer thinks will sale for their customer base.
I’m not going to risk limited resources to film a model that I don’t know will sale for me.

Ticklishness is important for me as well as the model having well cared for feet and a good toenail length. Most fetish producers with the fetish start by shooting with talent that they like to see. They eventually attract costumers who have similar interests and overtime that’s how the store grows.

- If a model seems to be be fighting with fellow models all over social media feed about personal beefs and such, a lot of producers - including me - tend to steer clear.

2) I think it’s weak for a producer to think that a model having the kink means that they should work for free.

I could see a producer asking if a model might be open to a content share or trade where no money changes hands. Unlike guys with cameras (generally session guys who like to film), producers won’t pay a model’s rate and also give them the content.

Producer’s should never expect a model to work for free under any circumstance, but I think asking if a model is open to a trade or share is fine.

I never ask models to do non paid work, if we do a trade or collab (no money changes hands) it’s their own idea. However, they get no content of their own if I pay them.

 

[Soles_Scream]

I'll bite...I've always wanted to know how do you just randomly go up to a woman and pitch this idea to them?

I cannot answer your question because I don’t ask random women to shoot with me. I have way too much anxiety and I want to shoot with folks who already have experience with adult content.

Shooting with newbies is a risk I’m not willing to take.

 

[porcelaindoll2]

I'll bite...I've always wanted to know how do you just randomly go up to a woman and pitch this idea to them?

I don't hit up random women per se, but my husband and I are very active in our local BDSM/Kink scene(We even hosts our own play parties.), so if we see someone that we think would maybe sell well, we will chat them up and see if they are interested. If it's a hard pass or no then we respect their wishes and move on.

 

[MeatyBreastedDullness]

I cannot answer your question because I don’t ask random women to shoot with me. I have way too much anxiety and I want to shoot with folks who already have experience with adult content.

Shooting with newbies is a risk I’m not willing to take.

So how do you find people?

 

[Comfort Eagle]

I'll bite...I've always wanted to know how do you just randomly go up to a woman and pitch this idea to them?

You don't. Not "at random", at least. The closest thing I've ever done to a true cold call for a shoot was a friend, or a friend of a friend, and after the subject had already been brought up one way. Usually when sex and/or OnlyFans has come up. Before OF existed, I would ask friends who already knew if they knew anyone willing to try for money.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

I’m so glad people addressed the “walking up to random women on the street and asking” thing. That doesn’t sound like a good idea under any circumstances.

 

[Jezebel Lee]

Jezebel, I’m going to answer the question as though the producer is sales oriented and not a scumbag. Also, I’m not talking about anyone here or wherever, this is just what I know and or observed and interpreted from 5 years in this industry.

I’ve been wrestling with how exactly to answer this question. Here’s a non PC answer to your first question. I can tackle the second question without an example.

Some producers pass on booking some models for a number of reasons:

- They do not think the model’s reactions will sale well in their store. For example, a really ticklish person who doesn’t actually laugh.

- They may not be face out (i.e. want their faces hidden). I only shoot models who are face out for example.

- The model may be considered unreliable/not professional.

- The model’s rates may be outside of
producers budget.

- The model’s limits don’t fit squarely with what a producer shoots. If a model isn’t open to receiving foot worship, which is half my content, I’m most likely not going to book them.

- The model may not fit the aesthetic of what the producer thinks will sale for their customer base.
I’m not going to risk limited resources to film a model that I don’t know will sale for me.

Ticklishness is important for me as well as the model having well cared for feet and a good toenail length. Most fetish producers with the fetish start by shooting with talent that they like to see. They eventually attract costumers who have similar interests and overtime that’s how the store grows.

- If a model seems to be be fighting with fellow models all over social media feed about personal beefs and such, a lot of producers - including me - tend to steer clear.

2) I think it’s weak for a producer to think that a model having the kink means that they should work for free.

I could see a producer asking if a model might be open to a content share or trade where no money changes hands. Unlike guys with cameras (generally session guys who like to film), producers won’t pay a model’s rate and also give them the content.

Producer’s should never expect a model to work for free under any circumstance, but I think asking if a model is open to a trade or share is fine.

I never ask models to do non paid work, if we do a trade or collab (no money changes hands) it’s their own idea. However, they get no content of their own if I pay them.

Thank you for the insight! I agree with you on the second point. Unfortunately a lot of producers seem to think the model’s enjoyment is “enough” of a payment that they don’t need to compensate them financially. And of course I also know a couple guys who straight up exploit their models and give them nothing in return, but I’ve personally stayed far away from those guys.