Guilty of non-consentual tickling beyond limits????

[Deleted member 66627]

Is it so wrong that non-consentual tickling isn't always a bad thing?? 😀

 

[Stugots]

I agree with Viper!! You did the right thing by going as far as you can, gig. If she's going to obsess about it, that's her problem, so why are you making it yours?? You'll only make it worse if you get involved and follow her lead through her emotional storm.

Convert to a new religion if it's the Catholic guilt that's getting to you. Catholic guilt was designed out of jealousy and envy to prevent people from having fun. You lived your life and so did she. I wouldn't worry about her mental state, because it's been fucked up for even liking tickling that way.

I don't recommend that sort of play with fat chicks or women with health problems, though. If you were to trigger a heart attack or a stroke or a seizure or something else that puts her life at risk, then you're in trouble!!

I give ya props for being able to truly tickle torture a woman. You da man!!

 

[rhiannon]

I don't recommend that sort of play with fat chicks or women with health problems

I have news for you: Sometimes you don't know if someone has a health problem!

NEVER EVER ignore a safeword!! Even if the ticklee asks for it! Of course it was stupid of her to ask for it, but still, as soon as she is tied down, the tickler has to take responsibility for them both! Especially if the ler knows the lee so well that he/she can tell what's going on!

 

[minerva]

Hmmm. I probably would have gone the full 30 minutes with her anyway - a deal's a deal, right? Of course, taunt her the entire time about how tough she thought she was. If she was going to be pissed at you anyway, you may as well enjoyed yourself for the additional 20 minutes.

In fact, I might have gone another 5 on top of the 30 to make sure she never forgets the session.

As a 'lee and sub I can't help but LOVE this answer, specially the extra 5 minutes.

See, it's simply not possible to experience being pushed beyond your limits and totally lose control while having a safeword 🙄 - you know, to some 'lees knowing they really have no way out is like the best part.
As said before constant communication/eye contact as well as a 'ler you know well enough and totally trust and who cares about you is a must though.

Any real emergency of course has to be voiced and has to stop play IMMEDIATELY - that goes without saying, but if I were the 'lee I'd want to know, the 'punishment' I'd get for misusing this 'option' would not be worth the short relieve I might get in the first place 😉

All that being said, I fully understand why the question about safewords is much more difficult for any responsible 'ler - and those are the only one's we want to play with after all 🙂

 

[rhiannon]

Personally I think that the lack of a safeword actually restrains the ler. The ler will constantly have to check on the lee if he/she REALLY can take more or not. One, that only works with someone you really know well. Two, even if it works, the ler can't really let him/herself go - too much checking! 🙂

 

[dvnc]

Just gonna add my agreement to those stating that a 'ler should be watching responses and pausing when something needs attention. Stop and check if your sense your 'lee needs such. Better safe...

It's actually true even WITHOUT safewords. If you've a bold 'lee, and they seem to be needing a break, take one. You're in charge, remember?

My $0.02,

dvnc

 

[TickledToDeath]

Hi all,
got an unusual question ...would like your opinions.....your HONEST opinions.



So Lee(I kid you not!) was eager to try it and hoped that this new device would be able to push her past her limits which has never happened before.
Her exact words to me were" no matter how much i beg DO NOT STOP for 30 minutes...no safeword."

She made you make the promise to not stop no matter how much she begged for 30 minutes and NO safeword.
She has no right to be pissed at you. She made you promise. She made the statement for no stopping for 30 minutes no matter what. Her words and now yours. She has to live with her demands and desires. If she didn't mean what she said then she shouldn't have said it. A case of (be careful what you wish/ask for...) She should be grateful and thankful you stopped when you did instead of going the entire 30 minutes as she made you promise to do! You did nothing wrong. Period

 

[Ayla ny]

I am one of those ’lees who might bite off more than they can chew.

I would never be pissed at someone who gave me what I asked for. Might not ask for it again, if it didn’t give me what I wanted, but would never be pissed at the person who gave me what I asked for.

After all, how could they trust your next desire/request after something like that?

Be careful what you wish for - especially if you are pretty sure it will happen.

 

[steph]

Well, I've been watching this with interest since it first posted and I must say "bravo..."

Those who regularly spout their usual jackassery didn't disappoint me and a pretty good number of those out there that I respect (many are friends IRL!) astutely and intuitively nailed it (and him) right on the head. Only one of the posters knew that I actually know and have experience with the O.P. and she only found out after I told her to thank her for her very dead on assessment of the situation.

The gentleman in question is a real sweetheart and an extremely considerate ler. (Not to mention cute as a button!)
Now, like some of you, he does bring a fair amount of um, enthusiasm to the project to be sure. And that stands to potentially open a can of worms with the inexperienced~but that isn't the case here.

This playmate was never in any danger. He has a medical background and would never intentionally hurt anyone~he has too much fun with his lees reaction to ever let it turn scary or painful. I think his playmate "bit off more than she could chew" as ayla put it. I think he did exactly what she asked him to and I think the REAL reason she was pissed is that she couldn't handle it the way she thought she could. Or maybe she just panicked, who knows?

I think the fact that he was actually concerned enough about her reaction to put it out there like this for our discussion speaks volumes for his quality of character.

And all's well that ends well, BTW~she has forgiven him and they've played since. Maybe she'll be smarter this time 'round. He's the kind of guy you don't issue a challenge to unless you're ready for him to call you to the mat. Because he will. And I'm pretty sure he'll be back here to do some damage. Actually, I'm betting my life on it. 😀

That is all friends (and others)...Party on!
XOXO

 

[ticklethisangel]

Hi all,
got an unusual question ...would like your opinions.....your HONEST opinions.

I was playing with an old friend last night . She loves being tickled and can take it as well as anyone i have ever known. she usually likes about 3 hours of pretty intense tickling. When she uses her safe word it's really from exhaustion rather than not being able to withstand tthe tickling.

I have a new "toy" ...it's the ULTRAsonic generation of electric toothbrushes(Sonicare is sonic waves, not ultrasonic)
And don't ask ....not available to the public......yet.

So Lee(I kid you not!) was eager to try it and hoped that this new device would be able to push her past her limits which has never happened before.
Her exact words to me were" no matter how much i beg DO NOT STOP for 30 minutes...no safeword."

This thing is just plain viscious. Lee rarely begs and it always takes a while.
within minutes she was screaming her safeword which i promptly ignored.
after another minute i was quite convinced that she meant it and wanted out....i just know her well. yet she had wanted to visit the exact place she now found herself and I remember she was adamant ....no matter how much she begged NOT to stop.
I gave her 5 more minutes and stopped at the 10 minute mark rather than 30 minutes. Screaming laughter and constant begging/safeword all the way.

She's really REALLy pisssssssssssssed over it, in spite of her request before it started.

I'm not really feeling too good about it either because i was convinced this thing had her way beyond what she could handle...i sensed a little panic in her laughter, and while i stopped it WAY short of the 30 mins I still wonder if at some point....does it becomes non-consentual despite prior agreement , IF AT ONE POINT THE LER KNOWS the lee truly wants out?

I would appreciate some HONEST feedback....from your gut.

Please no self-serving, self-engraciating,self agrandising/posturing for public image, etc....just what is your honest opinion?
i feel like i probably should have stopped earlier, regardless of potentially robbing her of what she had ORIGINALLY been looking for.

May I ask? Has she told you that you should have stopped? If not I believe you did nothing wrong and it was consentual. I think you bring up something that needs to be addressed at times, honestly I do not believe in any way that you did something wrong. As a *lee* and a very extreme *LEE* at that, I think we are the ones that need to be exact when it comes to how much we can take. We need to make ourselves clear and state the fact that if you think it is beyond what we can take then by all means stop no matter what we tell you.
Tickling is great! But I have found that sometimes us *lees* bite off more then we can handle, and it is nice to know there are some *lers* out there with our best interest at heart.

 

[Tickleslave83]

I'd probably have stopped if I thought she was really in agony but then again as a major lee 30 minutes of non consentual tickling would be a dream come true to me! In order to make things right with her I'd offer to let her tickle you without a safeword for 30 minutes to make things even. Not sure if your a lee though. Actually if your NOT a lee you should still make her the offer cause that makes it even more of a punishment .