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As much as they are originally frowned upon or ridiculed, the only time it seems we can engage as a community in a truly in-depth debate, discussion or otherwise is when it holds the potential to be either negative or a topic many hesitate to speak of?

I don't think we all strive for negative by any means. But, it seems to assist in expressing ourselves before any potential positive.

The Clique wars for example. That went on for, what? A handful of days? It brought out a shitload of people..many of whom don't normally post much or those that stay mainly to one side of the forum. Isn't that a form of irony? We come together best at times when we are locking horns.

Touching base briefly on the clique wars, I would like to say that I am glad they happened. If not, I wouldn't have met some of the people I am close with today... at least not that fast.

The rash of controversial threads a few months back also spawned incredible debate from all corners of the forum. Even moderators added their own 2 cents.. and it wasn't involved in shutting anything down. Although insults all across the board were thrown here and there, we still managed to stick with the debate.

The aftermath of these discussions usually result in a brief outbreak of 'happy' threads, which don't meet nearly as much attention as the 'negative' ones. This occurs in both TK and Gen Dis-- I am by no means keeping to one forum area.

For example, the hot topic threads in TK are the Non-con to that really interesting thread referring to underage tickling and/or incestuous sexual tickling. Pages and pages of opinions, facts, quotes, statistics and so much more. Whatever flaming was cleaned up and on the debate went.

Granted, some topics are a bit too direct and spark hurt aplenty due to almost being directed at one set or individual. But, those are at times rare.

And if the topic becomes too tiresome or boring, it is just as easy to construct a new thread. It's like P&R without the P&R. I think as long as it isn't met with making the moderators have to work their ass off to instill the GR or not directly slam into other members, these highly complained about but muchly contributed topics really manage to add something to the community.
 
You do have a point there. I hadn't paid all that much attention to it.. But now that you mention, I do notice it..
 
I know what you mean. It's almost as if there is this unspoken agreement that negativity, controversy, etc. breeds the most interesting conversation. Or like you put it, topics that have the potential to go there. I suppose that's human nature, and really, true of everyday life. I see it all the time.

Take the "Cheating" thread I started as an example. I know full well that somebody could pop in there at any time, play all high and mighty, and berate another member for a personal choice they made in their dating past. It happened before in a similar thread a few years ago. Still, I chose to take that risk, hoping that the vast majority of the conversation would lead to good insight regarding how we approach relationships.

I suppose the lesson here is that threads with that "uncomfortable" potential will always get people talking. Good topic, Crystal.
 
I thought this was rather obvious? But then sometimes the obvious isn't spoken due to fear of it being a taboo, something that would draw heavy backlash. And also sometimes only a select few actually have the ability to say such without said backlash (this possibly being one of the things that stirred these clique wars that you speak of, but that's getting a bit off the point).

But in any case, like tomskee said, heated debate on a matter someone feels strongly about brings out the competitiveness in a person. Everyone wants to be heard and not feel like they are being censored. What is and is not over the line is different for everyone, and whether they are made to feel uncomfortable crossing a line is determined muchly by what they feel from the forum itself.
 
I find this thread to be too easy to relate to.

No real controversy here.

And therefore, I shall go post elsewhere.

WAAAA HAAAAA HAAAAAAAAA!

No, good call CL. I have noticed on a lot of controversial threads that I never see some of these names unless it's a fight. I think in some ways that's really good. Controversy creates dialog. But I also think there are some folks more interested in the controversy than the dialog, and I try to avoid those types.

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It's "The Emperor has no clothes" mentality. If enough people think it and one person says it no one is afraid of looking like the fool anymore.

I stay out of the threads that are over two pages unless I posted when it was 1 or 2 pages. It's easier to read a recap from some one else in another thread.
 
Yeah, I notice it too. Although I'd much rather stir up mischief with you than argue with someone else. :redheart:
 
That's just because we all like to bitch! :devil:

You forgot to mention the other topic that always invites heated debates. When someone posts a story dealing with minors being tickled, it gets deleted, they ask why and pontificate on why they are being singled out and censored (apparantley they never browsed thru the rules when joining) and then all hell breaks loose!

It happens.
 
Yup, definately see that going on. Of course most of the time i was a lurker, which i have to say again. I deeply regret not posting more. Controversy, flamewars and whatever else bad has happen. This place and it's people are a wonderful solace for me.
 
For example, the hot topic threads in TK are the Non-con to that really interesting thread referring to underage tickling and/or incestuous sexual tickling.

Funny you bring that up, and timely. On tomorrow's "Wild Card Radio" we'll be discussing both of those edgy topics with our guest and with one of our esteemed hosts. Should stir the pot a little. :triangle:

Controversy breeds interest, but also learning...so it's all good.
 
Yup, definately see that going on. Of course most of the time i was a lurker, which i have to say again. I deeply regret not posting more. Controversy, flamewars and whatever else bad has happen. This place and it's people are a wonderful solace for me.

Very well said, hon. :redheart:

Yeah, I notice it too. Although I'd much rather stir up mischief with you than argue with someone else. :redheart:

LOL! Never Say Die!

I enjoy debates..not arguing. 😉

That's just because we all like to bitch! :devil:

You forgot to mention the other topic that always invites heated debates. When someone posts a story dealing with minors being tickled, it gets deleted, they ask why and pontificate on why they are being singled out and censored (apparantley they never browsed thru the rules when joining) and then all hell breaks loose!

It happens.


Very True. 🙂
 
Clique wars? Glad I missed that one...

As for the topic in question, sure it happens. (espescially in P & R:devil:)

I for one welcome confrontation... unless it involves repeating myself over and over and/or arguing with a bunch of blowhards.

Confrontation usually helps me get more perspective of others opinions and maybe even strengthen my own POV. Either way I usually enjoy it. (Unless like I said in the paragraph above...)
 
I've always noticed that. I think arguing a point or favoring or just a quick thank you, nice clip, and such are easier to wade into, then say a more personal post. You have to be willing to share a piece of you to take the time and thought to really share like that and not everybody is able to do that, and that's cool. But yes I agree with the original thought.
 
It's hard to find idiots in the real world like you find on this forum. It makes for entertaining reading. Plus my point of view is definitely not the majority here, so I like to get it out there.

And that gold star shit, and the people who freak out about it.. Wow. When your life starts revolving around a forum, you need to check yourself.
 
Man is a confrontational being. We compete in everything we do on at least a very basic level. I kinda buy the matrix's view on the world: A perfect society would be disastrous and catastrophic to itself. Two needs of man: Gonads and Strife!
 
Man is a confrontational being. We compete in everything we do on at least a very basic level. I kinda buy the matrix's view on the world: A perfect society would be disastrous and catastrophic to itself. Two needs of man: Gonads and Strife!

Hey now, it's not just men that are confrontational. 😉

And some men fear confrontation.
 
The only way to get a good discussion out of half of the forum these days is to make them feel as if they are being called out. Anything else gets stupid pictures and youtube videos.
 
And some men fear confrontation.

True. And some tend to sneak around behind the scenes like little wet rats, getting others to be confrontational for them in various threads via false screen names or pulling other people's strings like puppets. Cowardly and emasculating and pitiful, and not very good for the forum, but even I admit it can make things 'interesting' 🙄
 
I'm a conflict theorist. I pretty much agree with poetic's assessment, and I would take it even a step further to say that conflict is what helps us (us being men and women) improve and learn.

Granted, it's still important to choose your battles. Too much conflict doesn't accomplish anything.
 
True. And some tend to sneak around behind the scenes like little wet rats, getting others to be confrontational for them in various threads via false screen names or pulling other people's strings like puppets. Cowardly and emasculating and pitiful, and not very good for the forum, but even I admit it can make things 'interesting' 🙄

Extremely. (Wait, was that sarcasm? :blaugh:)

The only way to get a good discussion out of half of the forum these days is to make them feel as if they are being called out. Anything else gets stupid pictures and youtube videos.

Not necessarily making them feel called out, because that can easily spawn flame wars, which in reality - suck. But, just touching on topics that most complain heavily about, but refuse to discuss..unless someone else brings the topic to light.

Granted, it's still important to choose your battles. Too much conflict doesn't accomplish anything.


Absolutely. And, thanks for adding the women to it. 😉
 
When your life starts revolving around a forum, you need to check yourself.

Agreed!

As for the OP, people always feel the need to chime in when they think they have something to add, whether it be to prove a point, agree with someone, or disagree with someone. Unfortunately they do it more in a controversial thread than the other "nice" threads. Some people see that others agree with their view and go ahead and post. Some people just like to make trouble, and still some people really do go around acting like asses just to make others feel bad. Maybe those who don't contribute to the "nice" threads feel like they really don't have something relevant to say that someone hasn't already said? I mean, with the many who are regular posters here, you are bound to get repeat ideas and comments.

--T
 
No prob, heh... and who is FG? That's a great quote...

Mistress Aura 🙂redheart🙂 nicknamed me Fire Goddess, due to slightly obvious reasons. 🙂

The quote I found from a BDSM forum. Thanks, hon. :redheart:

Maybe those who don't contribute to the "nice" threads feel like they really don't have something relevant to say that someone hasn't already said? I mean, with the many who are regular posters here, you are bound to get repeat ideas and comments.

--T

True. Or they just would rather stick with the controversy and then complain about it, but once someone attempts positivity they stay away from it, even though it's what they seek..or claim to.
 
If I've never said it before I'll say it now. I admire and am greatful to those who are not scared to start a thread because of a fear of backlash.
As long as it's not deliberately nasty (which is easy to tell), it does nothing but add to the community. 🙂
If I agree/disagree, I'll state my opinion, but still appreciate the topic itself.
I'll try not to offend, but that can sometimes be difficult with so many opinions.
And yeah, I don't mind a good stoush every now and then myself!!! 😉
 
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