Horrible experience at Pandora's Box Dungeon

[Tickler15]

So, I just went to Pandora's box tonight and had the worst and craziest dungeon experience of my life. I actually felt like I was in danger. After paying $220 for a 1 hour tickling session, the lady at the door started on her usual "you have to tip, don't be cheap" speech that she gave last time. I said okay, and no numbers were said other than the $220. I had what I thought to be a great session, until I hear them joking as I'm walking up the stairs that she's lucky she faked it well enough.
Here's the part that startled me. "Michael!, the girl screams upstairs. You forgot my tip!" She was 100% right, so I walked back downstairs, and handed her a $20 bill. PLEASE TELL ME IF THIS IS WHERE I WENT WRONG.
She says $100 minimum tip. I calmly told her several times that she did not say that at the beginning of the session. This continued for about 4 minutes with them yelling at me to my face about this tip until they started approaching me yelling, and I actually felt the need to run up the stairs and OUT. She screams "YOU FUCKING PIECE OF SHIT" amongst other things as I ran outside. I seriously ran down the block, this girl was not thinking right and I wasn't chancing making the papers.

I just wanted to share this unbelievable experience with you all since there are so many other awesome places (like Jezebel's, $160/hour) to go to that make you feel comfortable. This was the 2nd time they came at me with the tip argument at Pandora's, and I think the only reason I made it out safely last time is since the Domme asked me on a date at the end. She did tell me however, "just because I asked you out doesn't mean you don't have to tip me." Its just un-fucking believable to me.

I don't think you were wrong...they should of said there was a minium tip....Just never do business with them again.

 

[blootwentytoo]

hahaha! just so you know, you're going to have to tip her.

 

[marlin400]

Mike,
Thats insane man. I work in a service indusrty here in NYC and i totally agree with you. Sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience.

TickleAbuse,
I am a huge fan of your work and the cool scene you have going on at your place. I love the idea that you are thinking about opening up for guys. I vote YES to the idea!!

On a different note....
Since we are talking about dungeons, A girlfriend friend of mine is actually interested in being tied up and tickled. If Pandora's box ISN'T a good place to go then then where IS a good spot for the two of us. We don't need a domme we just need a room with some equipment and have been looking online together at places. Any ideas? She is super ticklish and im super excited!!

 

[Maestro1874]

Tip schmip. That's a bummer lol.

But $100 tip? Is that fee normal???

It's only normal at Asian massage parlors - it's not a "tip" it's actually the fee for the additional "services." Unless Pandora is providing other things beyond those stated officially, then tipping should be at the discretion of the client.

 

[rhiannon]

Since we are talking about dungeons, A girlfriend friend of mine is actually interested in being tied up and tickled. If Pandora's box ISN'T a good place to go then then where IS a good spot for the two of us. We don't need a domme we just need a room with some equipment

I don't know if it exists in the US, but here in Germany there are several SM-Holiday-Apartments that you can rent for the night. I personally like that better than going to a dungeon where other people are around. You might want to look into that!

 

[Angel77]

It's only normal at Asian massage parlors - it's not a "tip" it's actually the fee for the additional "services." Unless Pandora is providing other things beyond those stated officially, then tipping should be at the discretion of the client.

Ahhh I see. Thanks!

 

[gentlefeather007]

Average US tip is 18%. Even though you were under this average % there is no need to embarass and harass a customer ever!!!!

 

[mustang]

I go to topless bars and tickle the feet of all the girls I care to. I give them $10 for a 5-10 minute foot tickling session. I have never been turned down. Most of the girls find my foot tickling fetish interesting and I usually have great conversations with them about it. One loved having her feet tickled so much that she came back to give me a freebie. She liked the finger tickling, but when I sucked on her toes she flipped out and said that she couldn't take it, because 'it tickled like crazy'. In another interesting encounter, the girl whose feet I was about to tickle went to get her girlfriend and the girlfriend masturbated while watching me tickle her friend's feet. I have lots of stories of this nature, but I won't bore you with too much info.

 

[Imlatino]

What you already paid them over 200 dollars and a 20 dollar tip is good. 20-30 is good 40 a bit much but 100 forget it!

 

[Imlatino]

Oh just realized I already spoke on this thread sry

 

[scorpionldr]

Wow! At those example rates, I'd be content to book the sessions!

As far as Pandora's Box, I was curious as to where it was located in the city, and in the directions on their website, it says, "For the corporate executive on a tight schedule, we are just minutes away from Times Square, Penn Station and Madison Square Garden." Given this statement, and the fact that they tout that they were on an HBO series, I guess they expect high profile clientele, and thus inflate their prices and demand absurd tips--your typical "working girl" putting herself in compromising situations for rich execs who "shouldn't be cheapskates". Does that justify that type of treatment? Not one bit. It's just another example of an entitlement mentality in a service-based industry. Like everyone has already said, tipping should be proportionate to the quality of the service provided, and decided by the customer.

Also, I just looked at "Poison's" profile:

"I do not care about you – not your desire or pain. I only care about what pleases me: drinking, moshing, smoking and molding pathetic little men into whatever playthings I crave at the moment. I am like a cigarette: every breath of me is dangerous, and poisonous to the heart and skin, I’m addicting enough to kill a man yet impossible to resist, anything I touch goes in as smoke and ends up as ash.

To consider yourself worthy of my time is a joke. If I decide you’re worthy of my presence, I will not hesitate to remind you of your pathetic existence through physical and mental abuse and humiliation. I will twist and turn you inside out. You are here to entertain me, to be an amusing decoy to ward off my hangover.

At times I have a sensual side but you will have to try and coax it out of me. With my beauty and sharp wit, I will play off your desire, your weakness, and your humiliation.​

Based upon everything she said, I wouldn't have paid to top her, because it doesn't look like she has any capability of sitting comfortably in a submissive role without harboring some sort of resentment or expectation. It sounded like she was barely able to conceal her dominance for the session! I guess Poison needed that hundred bucks to pay for liquor. 🙄

Goodness! I hope that wasn't too mean, but I couldn't resist.

talk about the typical "princess" persona.

 

[MaleTickleeDC]

Interesting older thread. Given how expensive these dungeons are, and given all of the ladies that are on this site, I honestly don't understand why those so inclined don't advertise their services as a lee or ler in the personals section. I mean, it sounds like a dungeon is going to set you back at least 300 dollars. I'll bet there are ladies on this site who would be happy to get tickled for an hour for 150 dollars with no "tip" needed, because she's able to pocket all the cash.

 

[Myriads]

Interesting older thread. Given how expensive these dungeons are, and given all of the ladies that are on this site, I honestly don't understand why those so inclined don't advertise their services as a lee or ler in the personals section. I mean, it sounds like a dungeon is going to set you back at least 300 dollars. I'll bet there are ladies on this site who would be happy to get tickled for an hour for 150 dollars with no "tip" needed, because she's able to pocket all the cash.

Most ladies on the site, even those who need cash, don't as a rule feel comfortable selling themselves or their sexuality. There is also the concern for security, which a dungeon offers to its workers, and a independent lacks in hotel meetings, or home visits. It's not a path for many folks.

Myriads

 

[Ishaanshah]

Not Bad.

 

[Dave Pavet]

Though I sympathize with you... you have to take a good part of the blame. After all, you are probably trying to rationalize the behavior of some crack hooker. I finally figured out women after a divorce settlement. If you watch the Simpsons they are the ones with the lipstick. You just had a brief incident, not a horrible experience, bit of a bruised ego, fuck it! brush it off. I have to give you credit for airing things out and getting it off your chest. We got your back buddy!

 

[TickledToDeath]

The fact that the "ticklee" you tickled, or allegedly tickled, FAKED it, was grounds for you not having to have paid at all let alone TIP?
Another reason to not trust that particular dungeon or those running it as far as having a tickle victim at your mercy. Not sure how it goes on the other with a domme as the tickler. Coupled with the fact that they LAUGHED at you is insulting and disrespectful as well as unprofessional and just plain rude.
Why you even went there a second time is a good question to ask yourself. I think you have your answer for any future visits.
In my opinion, Pandoras is just a business and only a business run by those who only care about the money and not the "scene" or the "personal" aspect or the people in it.

 

[trace1984]

wooooooooooooow! na dude your good after that outburst i would not of even given them 20$ ,tip is for good service!

 

[Tickler Bart]

I, too, have worshipped, massaged, and tickled the feet of some strippers here in Tampa and in NYC.
98% agreed to it. There were a couple that flatly refused it, even with a 20.00 tip for a 'few minutes'.
I remember this one girl a few years ago that never had her feet tickled or licked (so she SAID). Well, this girl got off on it (or so it SEEMED that way). She begged ME several times for another 'session' in a semi-private room. I DID tip her 20.00 each time, so maybe it was just get more money out of me. When I was leaving she BEGGED me to come back the next night. I did not. I was not in a financial situation where I could have done that a second night in a row. I went back a week later but she wasn't working that night.
I never saw her again.
Most of them were very eager to have something done to THEM for a change (Foot massages and foot licking).
I may do this again soon.

I go to topless bars and tickle the feet of all the girls I care to. I give them $10 for a 5-10 minute foot tickling session. I have never been turned down. Most of the girls find my foot tickling fetish interesting and I usually have great conversations with them about it. One loved having her feet tickled so much that she came back to give me a freebie. She liked the finger tickling, but when I sucked on her toes she flipped out and said that she couldn't take it, because 'it tickled like crazy'. In another interesting encounter, the girl whose feet I was about to tickle went to get her girlfriend and the girlfriend masturbated while watching me tickle her friend's feet. I have lots of stories of this nature, but I won't bore you with too much info.

 

[MikeTickler]

After reading all this over, I just have to add that I frequently give VERY large tips to people in the service industry. Usually, however, it is to waitresses. The reason for this is that waitresses work for less than minimum wage, which means they count on the tips to pay their bills. I frequently tip 25% in these situations, because tipping is customary in that industry.

Tipping certainly is not customary in most industries, especially when compensation is so high for their work. Would you tip a lawyer $100 after handling the closing documents on your home? Some people may, but I would not. Unless the lawyer worked for free. Furthermore, would you tip a contractor 20% after remodeling your home? Maybe some people here would. Some things just don't make sense, because that is what they get paid for---and their compensation is just in most cases.

If someone disagrees with me on this, I may consider changing my tipping habits. But up to this point, I only feel obligated to tip such a high amount if someone is getting less than minimum wage.