Is tickling primarily a heterosexual fetish?

[GoForTheLaugh]

I know a lot of straight people into tickling (via this board), and I know/am friends with/date gay guys not into tickling.

For the most part, tickling appears to me a heterosexual interest. Even the guys on this board into M/M are mostly straight. There are some gay sites with tickling, but they have to incorporate other things into their offerings in order to get enough people interested. Footfriends.com, for example, is a gay site for all types of non-tickling foot play plus tickling. The foot worshipers and lickers get a lot more airtime.

I see heterosexual tickling all over the Internet and all over real life, but I don't really see much gay interest in it. Sure there is an occasional tickle in a gay venue, but it is short and mainstream--the type I have always engaged in since it has always been my only option.

There used to be a gay male magazine called Bound and Gagged, but it would only have one tickling story (if even one) a month. Everything else was S&M. Once again, tickling got the least airtime.

Is it possible that I have a heterosexual fetish? I hope not. Yeah, there are some gay guys who have this fetish, but what a bother and an inconvenience trying to find them!

Can I trade this fetish for an easier, gayer one? 😀

 

[Ticklish9's]

Hmmm, that's a good question! I've never really thought about it... but you're right, tickling tends to be predominantly M/F or F/F (and that's largely for the satisfaction of the male F/F lovers). As a male 'lee I'm part of a smaller crowd but we too tend to run for F/M more than M/M (though tickling is never to be turned down, no matter the source!)

It's worth investigating, I think!

 

[Knox The Hatter]

There's a local adult video store. Under the old management, when they had a wider and better selection, they had a plurality of gay tickling videos on their wall racks. A plurality.

Logic would tell me that there is some demand for this...

 

[Myriads]

Fetishes seem to develop independent of sexual orientation.

As you have smaller homosexual populations in comparison to the hetrosexual sample set (1 to 20 rough estimate) it's harder to see the fetish groups in the smaller population. There are just less of them...

Myriads

 

[Newcastle Uni]

i'll make gay videos when i start selling my videos, if anyone wants them?

anyone wanna see gay tickling?

no?

 

[Red Jester]

Not really.

Kinda the problem really. Producers make videos to appeal to the general populace of the tickle community. Which is easily m/f and f/f. They never make gay videos so gay ticklers are never attracted to the tickling community.

 

[Krokus]

I think there IS a demand, nobody wants to meet it though. Ah, if only I had the cash.

 

[Mimi]

I enjoy M/M as much as any other variation of tickling, and I've seen other females on the forum express a similar view... so there are a few of us outside the target audience who also enjoys the material. There are a few companies offering M/M tickling videos right now, but unfortunately they are quite rare.

Lazzy and I go through a similar problem, in that we prefer to view female tickling models who are of ample size (plus sized girls), and I know there are numerous other fans of big girl tickling in the community as well. But since we do not fit into the majority, we lose out. Video producers typically will only produce videos that target the majority audience since that's where the most money is. To get sub-fetish material, you'll have to turn your attention to private and/or independant video producers. No professional lighting, cameras, or settings, but you'll see the desired content you seek.

As for the question at hand, I think Myriads summed it up best. Homosexuals only represent a portion of our population. Ticklephiles only represent a portion of our population. So homosexual ticklephiles ends up being represented by a percentage of a percentage, and therefore appears nearly non-existent in the bigger picture. It's a shame, really, for it must make it that much more frustration to be a combination of the two where you're not only trying to feed one sexual preference, but two, that both can be hard to come by on their own let alone combined.

Hang in there, GFTL, for I know we do have at least a small percentage of male homosexual ticklephiles on board. 😉

Mimi

 

[morgandavis]

sage for bad line of questioning

 

[BellaRisa]

i'll make gay videos when i start selling my videos, if anyone wants them?

anyone wanna see gay tickling?

no?

I own several m/m tk vids , all purchased at adult shops in and around Time Square, and plan to add m/m to BellaRisa's catalogue at some point. If you filmed a quality product you'd have plenty of customers, myself included

Bella

 

[GirlWhoLikes2Laugh]

I think that tickling is it seems for the most part a heterosexual activity. However, I don't see anything wrong with gays tickling each other. I think it should be for heterosexuals and gays if they enjoy it.

 

[WorkInProgress]

I think it's more a matter of, if you have a bag of marbles, if only 10% of those marbles are red, and if only half a percent of the marbles have stripes on them, it's probably going to take some searching before you pull up a red marble with a white stripe. I'm actually just going by what I've heard said for the first figure, and making up a number for the second figure, but I am under the impression that it's a fairly small percentage of the overall population who are into tickling as a fetish. As for gays, I certainly know that gays who are into hard core S&M are out there and not all that hard to find (not to be confused with saying that I think most gays fit that bill, of course), so I think it's a matter of just keeping on picking marbles out of the bag, and a suitable play partner will materialize. Good luck.

(Incidentally, just on a non sequitur, recalling an earlier thread of yours, I asked myself the equivalent question to the one you were pondering, about tickling and sexual preference. I asked myself if I'd be just as turned on tickling a lesbian as tickling a heterosexual woman. In my case, it's a pretty definite yes, bring on the lesbians.)

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Why has this tickle thread reverted to tickle porn on video? Gay = porn is not the right equation. It's even insulting.

In addition, videos have nothing to do with the question at hand. I will explain.

I know that there are a lot of quality heterosexual tickle videos, some of them made by people on this site. While some may contain fake tickling, many have the genuine stuff.

Having discovered that I had a fetish when I first went on line in 1999, I have since seen a couple of gay M/M tickling videos--but I think they are all fake. In addition, the actors are largely straight guys under salary (as is true of much gay porn). Even mainstream gay movies like Jeffrey, Maurice, and Latter Days have straight guys playing gay guys, steamy scenes included. If you don't believe me, just ask Patrick Stewart, who was in Jeffrey.

That is why I ask how much of this fetish is actually gay.

Anyway, paying to see folks tickled on line, in magazines, and in videos aside, I truly wonder how much of a gay tickle scene there is in real life. It seems to me that the percentage of the gay population into tickling is smaller than the percentage of the straight population into it. I know that there is some annual gay tickling convention in Chicago, and I know that FootFriends organizes gatherings in New York and other cities, but even Foot Friends = gay foot worship, foot fetish, a lot of other foot stuff, plus some tickling.

Fetishes seem to develop independent of sexual orientation.

As you have smaller homosexual populations in comparison to the hetrosexual sample set (1 to 20 rough estimate) it's harder to see the fetish groups in the smaller population. There are just less of them...

Myriads

I fully respect Myriads' explanation, and it may be right. But couldn't tickle fetish be more common in a brain wired for heterosexuality than one wired for homosexuality? I am not a biologist, and I really have no idea. That's why I am asking.

Why oh why can't there be other gay ticklephiles here (besides Krokus and myself)? I have so many questions and no way to get answers!

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

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(Incidentally, just on a non sequitur, recalling an earlier thread of yours, I asked myself the equivalent question to the one you were pondering, about tickling and sexual preference. I asked myself if I'd be just as turned on tickling a lesbian as tickling a heterosexual woman. In my case, it's a pretty definite yes, bring on the lesbians.)

But, Work, you're not gay! My question in the other thread was directed at gays (who, sadly, are not in great number here).

You have to realize the price I have paid in lost opportunities, friends, relatives, and religion to come out of the closet as a man who loves men. Am I then to "play" with men who do not identify as gay or bi, who did not suffer the way I did? I just don't know the answer. That is why I wish I knew other gay tickle fans, as I have no one to discuss this with.

As I have said over and over, I will fight for the right of straight guys to engage in as much non-sexual M/M as they wish. It is, after all, only horseplay. I resent it as much as they do when people assume that M/M must be gay.

However, I am not at all comfortable showing my sexuality to someone who does not identify as gay or bi. A few pokes for a few seconds would not be sexual to me, and that would be all right with a straight guy or a woman, with me as the ler or the lee. Anything else is off limits, as it would then be sexual for me.

I emphasize "for me," as not everyone feels this way.

 

[lk70]

But couldn't tickle fetish be more common in a brain wired for heterosexuality than one wired for homosexuality. I am not a biologist, and I really have no idea. That's why I am asking.

WELL! I hadn't thought of it that way. Isn't the tickle enthusiasm (this is the word I'm using instead of fetish now until I change my mind) a subset of the sub/dom thing? Like a milder version? If we accept this is true, then I'll ask what the sub/dom thing is like in the gay community. Do they relate?

 

[WorkInProgress]

But, Work, you're not gay! My question in the other thread was directed at gays (who, sadly, are not in great number here). ....

I emphasize "for me," as not everyone feels this way.

Oh, I know. Just sharing the self-reflection it brought me to, that I might not have thought of otherwise. But I do get what you're saying, too.

 

[Red Jester]

Fetishes tend to overlap. A lot of people here describe themselves as foot fetishests and ticklephiles. So obviously their favorite place to tickle becomes feet. If a guy has a biker chick fetish and a baloon fetish his fantasy will be to see a girl in a biker outfit humping a baloon.

You are aroused by guys the same as I am aroused by girls. We both have tickling fetishes, as such I like tickling girls and you like tickling guys. The gay brain isn't "wired" differently at all than a straight man's brain. They simply like different things. And I'm sorry but I doubt you'll find a relationship here. Any guy here looking to start a relationship with a girl has little chance of success. As its said, you're the minority of a minority. Its too bad as you seem to want someone like you to be open with your sexuality with.

 

[Krokus]

WELL! I hadn't thought of it that way. Isn't the tickle enthusiasm (this is the word I'm using instead of fetish now until I change my mind) a subset of the sub/dom thing? Like a milder version? If we accept this is true, then I'll ask what the sub/dom thing is like in the gay community. Do they relate?

Somewhat, it depends on the person IMO. I prefer to be submissive, despite popular belief, I have a submissive personality. I like for my partner to be in "control" at all times so to speak. I can't speak for the entire community though.

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

WELL! I hadn't thought of it that way. Isn't the tickle enthusiasm (this is the word I'm using instead of fetish now until I change my mind) a subset of the sub/dom thing? Like a milder version? If we accept this is true, then I'll ask what the sub/dom thing is like in the gay community. Do they relate?

Here's a weird one for you. Growing up in the closet and as a Fundamentalist in New York City, where everything is visible, I thought all sub/dom and S&M stuff was gay. The day I discovered that some straight people were into it, I was floored. Of course, I merely called them perverts and said they were going to hell with all gays, but that is another story...

There are entire bars dedicated to sub/dom or uniform fetish or role play or what have you in the gay sections of New York. There are also gay bars where that sort of thing is frowned on. The community is diverse.

As for tickling being a milder version of sub/dom, either Myriads or Jeff (the other administrator/owner) once posted that hard tickling was while soft tickling (my interest) is related to sensory stimulation (or something like that). That makes sense to me, but it may also reflect my wishful thinking and my prejudice (which I am working hard to overcome) against any type of bondage or BDSM. I may be an atheist, but some Fundie still lurks in me. Of course, I am the first to admit that I am the one with the problem, and that people who practice bondage or BDSM have no problem.

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Its too bad as you seem to want someone like you to be open with your sexuality with.

Ain't it the truth.

My entire tickle experience is a tiny bit of tickle horseplay when I was younger and a tiny bit of tickle foreplay before sex. We're talking a few seconds a clip. Period.

I have many gay friends with whom I can discuss anthing except tickling. Four of them (and three non-gay friends) know about my tickle interest, but none of them shares it. The only one with whom I have had long discussions on tickling is my closest friend. He gives his best guesses, and I love him for that--but he knows even less about this fetish than I do.

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Hi, Work! 🙂

Somewhat, it depends on the person IMO. I prefer to be submissive, despite popular belief, I have a submissive personality. I like for my partner to be in "control" at all times so to speak. I can't speak for the entire community though.

I can be a control freak in real life, so I guess that would be my preferred role. However, once in a while submission has its appeal too.

 

[Gothmog]

I somewhat know how you feel friend.I want nothing more than to see cute little asian girls getting tickled,and I never find it,and if I do it barely counts for tickling.It is so aggravating to have a liking be in the minority,perhaps you can write some companies asking to see more of this?It may help if they get lots of requests.Before I came here I didn't even know that my tickling fetish was even a fetish,it always seemed so un talked of.I'm sure there must be some sort of material around.

 

[Red Jester]

Yes, wanting to see asian girls tickled is so rare these days. In fact, there's a good chance you're the first.

 

[Softstroke]

I know a lot of straight people into tickling (via this board), and I know/am friends with/date gay guys not into tickling.

For the most part, tickling appears to me a heterosexual interest. Even the guys on this board into M/M are mostly straight. There are some gay sites with tickling, but they have to incorporate other things into their offerings in order to get enough people interested. Footfriends.com, for example, is a gay site for all types of non-tickling foot play plus tickling. The foot worshipers and lickers get a lot more airtime.

I see heterosexual tickling all over the Internet and all over real life, but I don't really see much gay interest in it. Sure there is an occasional tickle in a gay venue, but it is short and mainstream--the type I have always engaged in since it has always been my only option.

There used to be a gay male magazine called Bound and Gagged, but it would only have one tickling story (if even one) a month. Everything else was S&M. Once again, tickling got the least airtime.

Is it possible that I have a heterosexual fetish? I hope not. Yeah, there are some gay guys who have this fetish, but what a bother and an inconvenience trying to find them!

Can I trade this fetish for an easier, gayer one? 😀

Have you been to http://www.waynecourtois.com/? This site not only has gay tickling material, but it also has links to other related sites. Unfortunately, they are all pay sites.

 

[Gothmog]

Yes, wanting to see asian girls tickled is so rare these days. In fact, there's a good chance you're the first.

I'm sorry but I can't tell from print if you're being empathetic or a smartass.My computer can't download language translating programs,so I can't navigate any of those sites.And when I do find one the girls are tickled for perhaps two seconds,or their faces are covered up.All I ever see is large chested blonde girls in these clips,and while that's not a bad thing,I'm not attracted to blonde girls.