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Lying Jerk Bruised Me (Re: trust was violated)

This is NOT just gossip

I am begining to wonder if this isn't just some sort of gossip myself. I understand that she was video taped with out concent (that is wrong of course) but if this guy hurt you why go about it by wispering it to other female members of the forum, and not tell everyone flat out. Then atleast he could comeforward and try to explain why. Not that their is any exuse for filming a lee with out his or her knowledge, or hurting someone. Even the law say a person is aloud to face their acuser. I say spill it, or this thread should be removed.

If you had ever felt violated :dropatear, you would understand my dilemma. And yes, I will continue to discuss this privately with the many females who have contacted me because they can relate to what has happened.

"Spill it"?? I fear that doing that in the public forum would be a TOS violation.
 
He's not a newbie

Maybe the guy is really new to this and doesn't realize how wrong he was.... he just thought he was making a kinky thing kinker.

As I recall, he has been a member here for a couple of years or so. He claims to be experienced. He's a good liar. :disgust:
 
Bruises

people get accidently bruised during bondage play all the time.

I've been into both the bondage and the TK scene since I was 16. No Ler has ever bruised me in 13 years. He either lied about his level of skill, or hurt me deliberately. This was not meant to be a BDSM scene but a roleplay scene with consensual tickling.

If you are bruising people during bondage play, then you are doing something wrong.
 
I'm really nobody on this forum, but I think we should be more supportive of her, not advise her to death, not doubt her and let her deal with this as she sees appropriate, good , bad or indifferent. Whatever happens, in the end all will work out.
 
Trust & Planning

I think the most important conclusion to draw from all this is being more careful about whom you play with.

We spent over a month discussing ideas and setting up what should have been a fun scene. This was not a "nice shoes -- lets fuck" quickie hook-up. I'm neither desperate, stupid, or careless. I've been doing this long enough to know about safety.

However, I fell for this guy's lies. As I found out, he cared more about masturbating over the sight of my feet in nylons than any tickling. He lied about his skill and interest just so he could have a chance to rub his cock on my nylons.

Since I don't own a lie-detector machine, I screened him the best way that I knew.
 
If you had ever felt violated :dropatear, you would understand my dilemma. And yes, I will continue to discuss this privately with the many females who have contacted me because they can relate to what has happened.

"Spill it"?? I fear that doing that in the public forum would be a TOS violation.

Yeah yeah, I know, I'm a guy so I have no idea what it's like to have my trust violated. I've never been physicaly assaulted (except from 4th - 8th grade) or humiliated (I think they called that high school). As far as I am conserned unless you are willing to come clean on all the facts I consider this you attempt to black list a male member you personaly don't like.
 
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If this happend then the info needs to be out there. Maybe the guy is really new to this and doesn't realize how wrong he was.... he just thought he was making a kinky thing kinker. Being "naughty". He can use this expereince to learn and grow with the community.

If he really knew what he was doing, though, that's different. Worse. Those who put on gatherings need to know these things - and who causes them - to protect our guests. I've been out of it for a bit, but I still know that you have to keep your guests safe and comfortable.

I know there have been gatherings where one guy got dangerously drunk, someone with an underage sex crime conviction tried to attend an event & I've had a guest sign up for a room-mate then back out 6 days before the event without paying a deposit.... sticking the single mom attending her first gathering with the full hotel bill and no reliable transportation (other hosts know the identity of this person & take their own steps in planning thier events). I know a few attendees who have been asked to sit out of gatherings for awhile (and later welcomed back), and others who have had their trust violated.

If we don't police ourselves, the REAL police will have to come in and do their thing. We don't want that.

None of this secret stuff. If it was bad enough, if we are bothering to communicate about it at all, this is info that needs to be shared.

I'm the single mom who got duped by this woman and Oddjobs' right! She baited me then bailed out when no one would provide her transportation to the event. I got jammed with nearly 500 bucks of expenses! I won't expose her name here because I'm sure many of you would know who she is. But I will say this; she's exposing herself and her credibility is all but flushed. Karma kicks a** IMHO!

But as for the OP, tell what happened. I know you're embarrassed and scared but that's what the preditor is counting on---your fear of being exposed. Don't think you're the first victim; you're one of many. Stop the bleeding and let the forum know who this is via screenname so no one else falls victim. Hey, if you need to chat, my PM box is always open; you don't have to be alone--I'll be there if no one else will!
 
*sigh* why is it always one of those things when people try to be rational and both sided about a debate it becomes a "men cant understand because they can't be violated!" type thing? is this like the default sheild for certain women when their arguments start failing to rally likewise support? why the crap does everything have to be a gender thing? why not just person to person thing?

ive been into bondage and ive gotten unintentionally bruised quite a few times. its part of the fun of the randomness in my opinion, but most people can conceed that mistakes happen!

and it may very well be legitimate, i simply pointed out the possibility that it was not true to the peopel screaming for his head without knowing one way or the other! the fact is, you are a forum goer same as anyone else, unless people know eachother in person, you're up for lies from any end of the game. that's just the way it is when you chose to interact with people online.

that being said, plenty of peopel here like to come just to look at the pics and clips. so outting someone for something that hasnt been proven, or established, or might have just been a mistake or one time offense without realization, is just being witch trialish and rather high school gossip girl cliquie.


if its really just a matter of keeping other people safe, then they can come to you if they have something planned around your area and they can mention (as long as its consensual) who their potential partner is, if its a match, you can warn them about what happened. but to just spill the guys name to anyone who asks whether on a post or through talk of PMs is just going to make sure he cant come within a mile of here without getting shit. is that really going to help things? is this REALLY about keeping other people safe or is this about revenge because you feel violated?

question why you do things in response to things. and all those out for blood here, are you jsut agnry because soemthing like this happened to you once and you want revenge for that vicariously through outting this person?

keeping a theif from getting legitimate work because he stole something once, doesnt help anyone. it keeps him from the straight and narrow path and just ups the likihood he's going to steal again, giving him no choice anymore since he cant do it right. this is no different. if this guy can't get conseual play anymore because he messed up one time, then might do even more underhanded things out of necessity. sometimes forgivness and a warning does better than the chair for a first offense, and keeps thigns from becoming a serial situation.

too many bad things can come from this "LETS OUT HIM!" wave. the best thing to do would be to get the tape (if there even IS one! cuz he could have just been lying about it!) back, and warn him that if you hear even a hint of someone in your area being violated by him, that you will turn the evidence into the police and then out him.

people make mistakes, everyone deserves a second chance. i dont get where this mentality of "someone did soemthing wrong, so tell everyone everywhere to keep them safe so they can ostricize him and he can never be the same!" metnality comes from. its ridiculous when you think about it. how would any of you feel, the ones out for blood, how would you feel if you made a mistake and no one anywhere would forgive you for it?
 
I'm the single mom who got duped by this woman and Oddjobs' right! She baited me then bailed out when no one would provide her transportation to the event. I got jammed with nearly 500 bucks of expenses! I won't expose her name here because I'm sure many of you would know who she is. But I will say this; she's exposing herself and her credibility is all but flushed. Karma kicks a** IMHO!


For what it's worth Kis, if I had been at that gathering, I'd of helped you out if I could. I can be a dick, but I'm a good guy at heart. 😀
 
For what it's worth Kis, if I had been at that gathering, I'd of helped you out if I could. I can be a dick, but I'm a good guy at heart. 😀

Appreciate the thoughtfulness........thanks! That deserves a kiss from kis!:Kiss2:

When I noticed the backpeddling, I had already booked the room so I ditched the rental car in order to save a little. Oddjob was the consumate host and taxi-he drove me around while I was there and I ended up having the time of my life so all wasn't lost. Next time there's a TX gathering and my finances are right, I'd go in a heartbeat! Those guys really know how to party!
 
If you were recorded without consent, then take legal action for invasion of privacy or whatever.

As per your situation; It sound's like it sucked. And for that I apologize. But there isn't much that can be done other then considering it a learning experience.

As per bruising; Sure, he might have been incapable of tickling. But also take into consideration you may bruise easy and didn't know it? Even the best Ler's get a little into their craft. That is when you speak up to them and tell them.
 
Nope...

In any case, this is all a moot point.

MTP Jeff said no out, so no out. She doesn't wish to go against that.

So instead, for everyone who REALLY wants to know... lets play a little game. It's called "Detective".

Everyone go to the personals section, look for the one she posted on... and by george... I think you might get a rough idea of "who done it"

The nitwit contacted me via private message, so playing detective won't solve anything. :hipoke:
 
In any case, this is all a moot point.

MTP Jeff said no out, so no out. She doesn't wish to go against that.

So instead, for everyone who REALLY wants to know... lets play a little game. It's called "Detective".

Everyone go to the personals section, look for the one she posted on... and by george... I think you might get a rough idea of "who done it"

Not everybody will have an idea, but I guess it's better to have someone going on about it in private wrather then bringing it into the open sothe accused can either defend himself, or face up for what he did.
 
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