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Men tickling Men
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Yeah, everyone, there is a double standard here; but it isn't a double standard in the normal sense of the word. Here we have something that "we all" (here at the TMF) love to do: tickling. We love to tickle, we love to be tickled, and we love to watch other people geting tickled. To start, let me stress that my personal taste in tickling only involves a woman or women tickling someone. I like seeing women tickling women, I love seing women tickling men, and I really love women tickling me! When I see a man tickling a woman, unless the woman is someone I would like to look at, I usually look away. The same goes for m/m tickling. I don't care to view it, and I truly do not like to be tickled by other men.
That said, we should look at why some of us feel this way. Why should males tickling males be considered a homosexual activity?
To start, we must look at what tickling is. Tickling is a very intimate activity. When you tickle someone, for that moment, you are in physical contact with body parts such as feet, sides, ribs, arms, etc. which are generally not thought of as places which are to be touched by other people outside of an intimate environment. When I tickle someone, or when I am tickled by someone (again, I'm talking about women here) I get aroused. This arousal arises (pun intended) from the fact that I am touching a woman, or being touched by a woman intimately. In most instances, the touching is desireable to both parties involved, and the sexuality in the contact leads to sexual arousal and desire. Anyone who says that tickling is not intimate is lying to themselves. While intimacy does not always lead to physical sex, intimacy stimulates the reproductive organs.
When I am tickled by a man (an occurrance that happens occasionally, although usually in a completely playful manner) I often do anything I can to "get away", a reaction that rarely happens when I'm tickled by a woman. This is because, while I enjoy females tickling me, I am absolutely repulsed by men tickling me. For the same reasons that I don't want to hold a man in my arms and gaze into his eyes, I don't want to be tickled by him.
Does this make me a homophobe? To answer that, allow me to delve into rhetoric. A man tickles me, and I get skeeved. I tell him, don't tickle me, I don't like men tickling me. He calls me a homophobe. I tickle a woman. She tells me don't tickle me, I don't like being tickled by men. Why don't I call her a lesbian, or a HETEROPHOBE? I don't do that because I'm not a complete moron. Homophobia is far more than simply not being gay, which is exactly how the word is used in today's culture.
"Joey threw up when Bob kissed him. He's such a homophobe."
"Bob gave me a dirty look when I held his hand. He's homophobic, let's never talk to him again."
If you are a gay man, and you refer to someone as homohpobic because he refuses to be tickled by you, or doesn't want to hold your hand, or something like that, this is called "sour grapes" from the Aesop fable wherein the fox (apparently a vegetarian fox) concluded that the grapes which were unattainably perched high on the vine must be sour.
Don't call people homophobic simply bacause the are not gay. Homophobia is, literally, fear of the same. It is argueably a psychiatric condition wherein the homophobe is unable to accept the practices of homosexuals, and protests their existence. If I don't want to be your boyfriend, it doesn't mean I want you dead.
So no; I am not a homophobe for disliking being tickled by a man. I am asserting myself in my belief that tickling is an intimate action, and that I do not want to be intimate with another man.
That said, we can conclude that males tickling males does not depend on one's sexual orientation, but rather on one's interpretation of the action.
In closing, it has been my belief that there is a double standard in American culture. We see people together all the time. Heterosexual couples walking down the street, men kissing women, women kissing men. But occasionally, we see same-sex couples. The double standard is this. When a woman is intimate with another woman, popular culture simply accepts it as "experimentation." Women are allowed to be bi-sexual. (because men find it erotic to see two women together.) When a man "experiments with another man, even if only once, and he didn't enjoy it, he is forever labeled as a ******. This is a double standard. It is one of the only double standards out there which is more detrimental to men than women, and it is a shame that our society cannot accept bisexual men for what they are: bisexual.
Thank You.
(for the record, I am a straight man, not that there's anything wrong with being straight.... right?)
That said, we should look at why some of us feel this way. Why should males tickling males be considered a homosexual activity?
To start, we must look at what tickling is. Tickling is a very intimate activity. When you tickle someone, for that moment, you are in physical contact with body parts such as feet, sides, ribs, arms, etc. which are generally not thought of as places which are to be touched by other people outside of an intimate environment. When I tickle someone, or when I am tickled by someone (again, I'm talking about women here) I get aroused. This arousal arises (pun intended) from the fact that I am touching a woman, or being touched by a woman intimately. In most instances, the touching is desireable to both parties involved, and the sexuality in the contact leads to sexual arousal and desire. Anyone who says that tickling is not intimate is lying to themselves. While intimacy does not always lead to physical sex, intimacy stimulates the reproductive organs.
When I am tickled by a man (an occurrance that happens occasionally, although usually in a completely playful manner) I often do anything I can to "get away", a reaction that rarely happens when I'm tickled by a woman. This is because, while I enjoy females tickling me, I am absolutely repulsed by men tickling me. For the same reasons that I don't want to hold a man in my arms and gaze into his eyes, I don't want to be tickled by him.
Does this make me a homophobe? To answer that, allow me to delve into rhetoric. A man tickles me, and I get skeeved. I tell him, don't tickle me, I don't like men tickling me. He calls me a homophobe. I tickle a woman. She tells me don't tickle me, I don't like being tickled by men. Why don't I call her a lesbian, or a HETEROPHOBE? I don't do that because I'm not a complete moron. Homophobia is far more than simply not being gay, which is exactly how the word is used in today's culture.
"Joey threw up when Bob kissed him. He's such a homophobe."
"Bob gave me a dirty look when I held his hand. He's homophobic, let's never talk to him again."
If you are a gay man, and you refer to someone as homohpobic because he refuses to be tickled by you, or doesn't want to hold your hand, or something like that, this is called "sour grapes" from the Aesop fable wherein the fox (apparently a vegetarian fox) concluded that the grapes which were unattainably perched high on the vine must be sour.
Don't call people homophobic simply bacause the are not gay. Homophobia is, literally, fear of the same. It is argueably a psychiatric condition wherein the homophobe is unable to accept the practices of homosexuals, and protests their existence. If I don't want to be your boyfriend, it doesn't mean I want you dead.
So no; I am not a homophobe for disliking being tickled by a man. I am asserting myself in my belief that tickling is an intimate action, and that I do not want to be intimate with another man.
That said, we can conclude that males tickling males does not depend on one's sexual orientation, but rather on one's interpretation of the action.
In closing, it has been my belief that there is a double standard in American culture. We see people together all the time. Heterosexual couples walking down the street, men kissing women, women kissing men. But occasionally, we see same-sex couples. The double standard is this. When a woman is intimate with another woman, popular culture simply accepts it as "experimentation." Women are allowed to be bi-sexual. (because men find it erotic to see two women together.) When a man "experiments with another man, even if only once, and he didn't enjoy it, he is forever labeled as a ******. This is a double standard. It is one of the only double standards out there which is more detrimental to men than women, and it is a shame that our society cannot accept bisexual men for what they are: bisexual.
Thank You.
(for the record, I am a straight man, not that there's anything wrong with being straight.... right?)
LOL! I'd like to see that. Uh, wait a minute. No I wouldn't.
It is about reactions, because if your lee doesn't react, what's the fun in that? I'll grant you though that it's a different issue when talking about lers, and I was under the impression you were asking about a lee's reaction, my mistake. A ler who would be aroused by tickling someone of either sex would more properly be considered a dominant as opposed to a tickler, because it's a matter of control, and a dominant takes pleasure in controlling another's reactions, tickling being the means to that end. If a dominant likes to tickle *only* same sex partners because he/she know it's going to arouse him/her, well, that sounds pretty gay to me.
I don't think straight guys should be expected to be comfortable about tickling each other. Same for straight girls. But neither do I believe that if a straight person is comfortable touching someone of the same sex, it's a sign that person is in the closet.
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I know how I would react - not into it. Society's not preventing me from exploring my curiosity; I mean, here we all are, exploring our interest/fetish with fake names on a computer network that goes world wide (hmmm...kind of like a web!) but we are exploring. I don't explore M/M tickling like I don't explore golden showers, kiddie porn or crossdressing. My genitals & mind are fully formatted for Mac and it isn't a matter of choice or public morality for me, it just ain't in my make-up.
Amnesiac_m(pc) said:
I know how I would react - not into it. Society's not preventing me from exploring my curiosity; I mean, here we all are, exploring our interest/fetish with fake names on a computer network that goes world wide (hmmm...kind of like a web!) but we are exploring. I don't explore M/M tickling like I don't explore golden showers, kiddie porn or crossdressing. My genitals & mind are fully formatted for Mac and it isn't a matter of choice or public morality for me, it just ain't in my make-up.
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gives me the creeps.
if i were at a gathering and m/m started to happen, i'd go to a different room. if f/f started to happen, i'd go to a different room.
i am not one of the usual guys you find around here. anything f/f is as much of a turn off as m/m. no double standards here!
sorry, but to me, tickling is a sport ment to be played by a man, and a woman.
steve
if i were at a gathering and m/m started to happen, i'd go to a different room. if f/f started to happen, i'd go to a different room.
i am not one of the usual guys you find around here. anything f/f is as much of a turn off as m/m. no double standards here!
sorry, but to me, tickling is a sport ment to be played by a man, and a woman.
steve
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as far as M/M is concerned...
Here's a typically Knoxian question:
If you recoil from this concept in a frightened manner, in a situation where there is absolutely no danger of a male coming up behind you and tickling you, then how can you claim to be comfortable in your sexuality, huh?
Scared that such an act might make you aware of your own doubts? Is that it?
You guys have really got to get a grip. If some guy tickles you and you pop a fucking boner, deal with it. You can reason with it later, while you're sitting in cuffs in the back of the police car, staring through the cage, in the aftermath of you giving said tickler a reason to have to go to the dentist for new bridgework, not knowing what the hell went wrong, after all, he was just givin' ya a friendly, harmless poke.
It's such a joke. If my best friend, who I've known for twenty five years, came up and gave me a friendly poke, I'd laugh. I'd be surprised, since he's not a physically warm person in any way, but I wouldn't recoil, and think, my God, he's a friggin' ******, and he's been my best friend all these years!
You don't like M/M? Big deal. Frankly, it would bore me, I do prefer females. The only thing, however, that I've garnered from this thread is that a whole bunch of you have a threatened sexuality from the mere question of whether you can put up with it or not.
In my real life, there's not much of a chance of me doing M/M...I don't actively seek it, nor do men actively seek me...I do prefer girls. However, this website is a fantasy land, where people are merely lines on a screen, and are NOT flesh or brain matter (unless you meet them and they flesh out into real, substantive people, which has happily happened), and I might not see anything wrong with tickling the shit out of some guy in the chat room who asks for it. I sit there and laugh from the reactions, since cybering was always a hilarious joke to me anyway, sort of like very cheap theater. My sexuality's not threatened in the least.
Get a grip.
Here's a typically Knoxian question:
If you recoil from this concept in a frightened manner, in a situation where there is absolutely no danger of a male coming up behind you and tickling you, then how can you claim to be comfortable in your sexuality, huh?
Scared that such an act might make you aware of your own doubts? Is that it?
You guys have really got to get a grip. If some guy tickles you and you pop a fucking boner, deal with it. You can reason with it later, while you're sitting in cuffs in the back of the police car, staring through the cage, in the aftermath of you giving said tickler a reason to have to go to the dentist for new bridgework, not knowing what the hell went wrong, after all, he was just givin' ya a friendly, harmless poke.
It's such a joke. If my best friend, who I've known for twenty five years, came up and gave me a friendly poke, I'd laugh. I'd be surprised, since he's not a physically warm person in any way, but I wouldn't recoil, and think, my God, he's a friggin' ******, and he's been my best friend all these years!
You don't like M/M? Big deal. Frankly, it would bore me, I do prefer females. The only thing, however, that I've garnered from this thread is that a whole bunch of you have a threatened sexuality from the mere question of whether you can put up with it or not.
In my real life, there's not much of a chance of me doing M/M...I don't actively seek it, nor do men actively seek me...I do prefer girls. However, this website is a fantasy land, where people are merely lines on a screen, and are NOT flesh or brain matter (unless you meet them and they flesh out into real, substantive people, which has happily happened), and I might not see anything wrong with tickling the shit out of some guy in the chat room who asks for it. I sit there and laugh from the reactions, since cybering was always a hilarious joke to me anyway, sort of like very cheap theater. My sexuality's not threatened in the least.
Get a grip.
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Seems pretty simple to me. If you like it, do it. If you don't, don't. And whether or not someone chooses to engage in it, respect their decision. If their decision (be it for or against) repulses you, fine. That's your thing. It's still impolite to insult them over it. The same goes for pretty much any activity between two consenting adults.
Personally, m/m tickling isn't my thing.
Why? I don't know. Not wired that way, I guess.
Would a blindfold change that? No.
Would I try it? No.
Does doing it make someone gay? Hell, I don't know. Ask someone who does it, and you'll know... at least, you'll know as it pertains to the individual you ask.
Does not doing it make someone closed-minded or a chicken? Of course not. Why should someone engage in an activity they don't enjoy just to prove something to someone else? That sounds kinda like grade school...
Personally, m/m tickling isn't my thing.
Why? I don't know. Not wired that way, I guess.
Would a blindfold change that? No.
Would I try it? No.
Does doing it make someone gay? Hell, I don't know. Ask someone who does it, and you'll know... at least, you'll know as it pertains to the individual you ask.
Does not doing it make someone closed-minded or a chicken? Of course not. Why should someone engage in an activity they don't enjoy just to prove something to someone else? That sounds kinda like grade school...
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I think Oddjob and asutickler have said it best for me. (Although, I must say that found EQ's goat-tickling analogy particularly amusing. lol)
IMHO, the most contestable point of this post is the request made for folks to do something they're clearly not comfortable with or uninterested in, under the presumption the requestor even knows the reasons why they're uninterested in them.
IMHO, the most contestable point of this post is the request made for folks to do something they're clearly not comfortable with or uninterested in, under the presumption the requestor even knows the reasons why they're uninterested in them.
Is there a double standard here? Yeah sure there is, but that is nothing new. I know for a fact that most of the viewers of f/f porn are straight guys, and that the viewers of m/m porn are gay guys. That is not to say that some gay women do not watch f/f or some straight women do not watch m/m, but they are not the majority. Going back to human sexuality class, I learned men are usually more visual, so that is one explaination.
With my discussion with straight women and straight men on sex I did discover something that I think is relevant to the discussion. I did find some women that are interested in m/m, but most were not. The women that were not instered mainly had the same response which was that they wanted the sole focus to be on them and not another guy. Men, on the otherhand, look at it completely diffrently. When talking about f/f action they usually follow it up with joining in somehow. So generally speaking, I think men and women fantasize and think differently.
Finally if someone enjoys m/m good for them, but I'm not one of them. Do I think two guys tickling each other automatically makes them gay? No, tickling is not sexual in every situation. However, if bondage is involved and the guy starts expressing the quality of looks, the amount of body hair, the other guy should have then my guess is that he most likely is not straight. There is one guy on this board that claims to be straight but says he loves to tie and tickle other guys. Let's just say I have some serious doubts about him.
With my discussion with straight women and straight men on sex I did discover something that I think is relevant to the discussion. I did find some women that are interested in m/m, but most were not. The women that were not instered mainly had the same response which was that they wanted the sole focus to be on them and not another guy. Men, on the otherhand, look at it completely diffrently. When talking about f/f action they usually follow it up with joining in somehow. So generally speaking, I think men and women fantasize and think differently.
Finally if someone enjoys m/m good for them, but I'm not one of them. Do I think two guys tickling each other automatically makes them gay? No, tickling is not sexual in every situation. However, if bondage is involved and the guy starts expressing the quality of looks, the amount of body hair, the other guy should have then my guess is that he most likely is not straight. There is one guy on this board that claims to be straight but says he loves to tie and tickle other guys. Let's just say I have some serious doubts about him.
I was thinking about this issue, and for me, given the tickling is done in a playful context, I have no problem with m/m tickling.
As far as the whole f/f versus m/m thing. It isn't so much that I relly enjoy f/f as much as it is that I enjoy ?/f. I enjoy tickling women and seeing women getting tickled. Be it by a man, a woman, a goat or a Volkswagon (if that is even possible 😕 ). As for watching a man being tickled, I just don't find it all that interesting.
As far as the whole f/f versus m/m thing. It isn't so much that I relly enjoy f/f as much as it is that I enjoy ?/f. I enjoy tickling women and seeing women getting tickled. Be it by a man, a woman, a goat or a Volkswagon (if that is even possible 😕 ). As for watching a man being tickled, I just don't find it all that interesting.
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who said they'd run screaming from the room knox?
why is it when ever a guy says he doesn't like something homosexual, or homo-erotic, he's accused of either being homo-phobic, or secretly hiding his own possible homosexuality? talk about a giant leap!
yesterday my dad wanted to watch the football game, so i said ok, turned it on, and excussed myself, went to another room, and watched a movie. does that mean i'm sports-phobic? or that i secretly am a football player? no, of course not! it means i find watching foot ball on t.v. to be boring, and am not interested in it. same goes for m/m, and f/f tickling, so i leave the room, and those that enjoy it, can stay to their hearts content!
something else said here, caught my eye; i love f/m both in the flesh, and on video/pics. it has been openly said that liking f/m is homosexual, both here, and on the amt. so there ya go, damned if you do, and damned if you don't!
lastly, if a guy tickles another guy, and gets an erection, he is homosexual, same for the lee.
steve
why is it when ever a guy says he doesn't like something homosexual, or homo-erotic, he's accused of either being homo-phobic, or secretly hiding his own possible homosexuality? talk about a giant leap!
yesterday my dad wanted to watch the football game, so i said ok, turned it on, and excussed myself, went to another room, and watched a movie. does that mean i'm sports-phobic? or that i secretly am a football player? no, of course not! it means i find watching foot ball on t.v. to be boring, and am not interested in it. same goes for m/m, and f/f tickling, so i leave the room, and those that enjoy it, can stay to their hearts content!
something else said here, caught my eye; i love f/m both in the flesh, and on video/pics. it has been openly said that liking f/m is homosexual, both here, and on the amt. so there ya go, damned if you do, and damned if you don't!
lastly, if a guy tickles another guy, and gets an erection, he is homosexual, same for the lee.
steve
M/M
I dig it.
But, I'm a freak. 😛
I just like tickling, so I could care less if */m or */f. From the female standpoint, I don't see how the very act of same sex tickling can be different for men than for women. I've known women who were as freaked out by the idea of taking part in it as men. Just because it's VIEWED differently, doesn't change how someone feels when they try it out. Believe it or not, some women get squicked at the idea of another woman having her fingers all over her. 😉
I personally get a kick out of the idea of two straight guys in a tickle moment. It makes them seem...hmm...how to explain. I don't see two guy with homosexual tendencies, or implied anti-societal behaviors. I just see guys laid back and cutting up. When two guys who both are serious lers go at it, I find it entertaining. No big deal. Case in point, at a small gathering...one guy got another guy in a headlock and tickled his side with the free hand. There was a lot of "Get off of me you jackass!" and "Fuck you, wimp!" This was followed by the other guy later tackling the guy on a hard floor and getting even. If I ever saw a typical disply of macho man-ness, it was there. I found it kinda sexy. But, then again, I'm a freak, remember?😉
I can understand that by society's evolution of norms, has made it difficult for men to think of tickling another man as a an ok thing to do. For those of us that are into things that the average citizen isn't though....😉 Is it really so bad? I mean, put on a blindfold and it becomes a moot point. Physical stimulii like tickling and touching can't fairly be used as a measure of sexuality and preference. It just means you have nerve endings! 😀 One comment about the implied suggestion that men should start doing things that make them uncomfortable. In my experince, you sometimes find out you like things in the strangest ways...lol Unless you're mortified, why not be open to it? I mean, you never know!
Eh, tickle who you wanna tickle.
GREAT thread, shygirl!
Joby
I dig it.
But, I'm a freak. 😛
I just like tickling, so I could care less if */m or */f. From the female standpoint, I don't see how the very act of same sex tickling can be different for men than for women. I've known women who were as freaked out by the idea of taking part in it as men. Just because it's VIEWED differently, doesn't change how someone feels when they try it out. Believe it or not, some women get squicked at the idea of another woman having her fingers all over her. 😉
I personally get a kick out of the idea of two straight guys in a tickle moment. It makes them seem...hmm...how to explain. I don't see two guy with homosexual tendencies, or implied anti-societal behaviors. I just see guys laid back and cutting up. When two guys who both are serious lers go at it, I find it entertaining. No big deal. Case in point, at a small gathering...one guy got another guy in a headlock and tickled his side with the free hand. There was a lot of "Get off of me you jackass!" and "Fuck you, wimp!" This was followed by the other guy later tackling the guy on a hard floor and getting even. If I ever saw a typical disply of macho man-ness, it was there. I found it kinda sexy. But, then again, I'm a freak, remember?😉
I can understand that by society's evolution of norms, has made it difficult for men to think of tickling another man as a an ok thing to do. For those of us that are into things that the average citizen isn't though....😉 Is it really so bad? I mean, put on a blindfold and it becomes a moot point. Physical stimulii like tickling and touching can't fairly be used as a measure of sexuality and preference. It just means you have nerve endings! 😀 One comment about the implied suggestion that men should start doing things that make them uncomfortable. In my experince, you sometimes find out you like things in the strangest ways...lol Unless you're mortified, why not be open to it? I mean, you never know!
Eh, tickle who you wanna tickle.
GREAT thread, shygirl!
Joby
I consider m/m tickling in the same context as some women do with rape or forced-sex fantasies, or some guys with cuckhold voyeurism involving their wife with other men--something that deep down inside you're curious about, but never willing to actually experience it. Some fantasies are like that, they should remain fantasies.
Probably the most intense tickling I ever experienced as a 'lee involved another guy, a gay acquaintance that I shared an apartment with years ago. It was erotic in its own way, but something I'd never want to experience again. However, it's not something that I haven't thought or fantasized about before. It will remain that way. That's what "fantasies" are about. If they weren't, they'd be "realities".
If that makes me "gay" to some of you, so be it. I'll just have to comfort myself in the knowledge that I've been with women some of you've only been able to dream about.
Probably the most intense tickling I ever experienced as a 'lee involved another guy, a gay acquaintance that I shared an apartment with years ago. It was erotic in its own way, but something I'd never want to experience again. However, it's not something that I haven't thought or fantasized about before. It will remain that way. That's what "fantasies" are about. If they weren't, they'd be "realities".
If that makes me "gay" to some of you, so be it. I'll just have to comfort myself in the knowledge that I've been with women some of you've only been able to dream about.
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Cyclic said:
rotflmao!
steve
lastly, if a guy tickles another guy, and gets an erection, he is homosexual, same for the lee.
steve [/B][/QUOTE]
steve -
this reminds me of that seinfeld episode when george gets a massage from a man, and "it" moves. then he and jerry discuss whether that makes george gay.
steve [/B][/QUOTE]
steve -
this reminds me of that seinfeld episode when george gets a massage from a man, and "it" moves. then he and jerry discuss whether that makes george gay.
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My sweetie shygirl also raised the point that what if a guy is blindfolded and is unknowingly tickled by another guy. Does the tickling itself (being tickled itself) cause possible arousal or the person doing the tickling?
Very gray area here and a great thread indeed.
TTD
Very gray area here and a great thread indeed.
TTD
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"why is it when ever a guy says he doesn't like something homosexual, or homo-erotic, he's accused of either being homo-phobic, or secretly hiding his own possible homosexuality? talk about a giant leap!"
No, Steve, you read it wrong. I was referring to people who doth protesteth too much. Guys who are literally scared to death that even catching a mistake glance at a naked man, or a guy in a speedo on the beach could possibly turn them gay.
In fact, I meant to tell you that you do make valid, logical points about how you feel. You're very reticent about sexual matters at large, which I accept. Some other people, though, while longing for tolerance from the Vanilla World, prove intolerant to others. I have to keep reminding myself that it's human nature to act that way, and there's nothing I can really do about it.
No, Steve, you read it wrong. I was referring to people who doth protesteth too much. Guys who are literally scared to death that even catching a mistake glance at a naked man, or a guy in a speedo on the beach could possibly turn them gay.
In fact, I meant to tell you that you do make valid, logical points about how you feel. You're very reticent about sexual matters at large, which I accept. Some other people, though, while longing for tolerance from the Vanilla World, prove intolerant to others. I have to keep reminding myself that it's human nature to act that way, and there's nothing I can really do about it.
I'm straight and I've tickled other men - and I would do it again. I prefer tickling women but tickling a guy every once in a while is just fun because it's something different. Anyway, when I tickle a man it's more in a playful way and sometimes it may turn me on a bit but that's because for me it's the WHAT that counts and not necessarily the WHO. But I would never get in any sexual contact with the guys I tickle - hell, I never wouldn't want to see them naked, ptui 
I'd really like to see more f/m or m/m stuff on the net for it's very rare.
I'd really like to see more f/m or m/m stuff on the net for it's very rare.
Thanks everyone for your comments and oppinions. It obviously is all "A matter of Taste" but think about this one, for you guys, if you had a choice to tickle a real handsome dude or a big fat ugly discusting smelly dirty scanky poorly groomed women, which would you pick? hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?????????????????
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neither, i'd go home and tickle my wife!😛
steve
p.s. to really answer the question, i wouldn't tickle either. tickling is too sexual an activity for me, and neither choice
is attractive to me.
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This thread has grown very interestingly, I'm enjoying reading the various points of view!
That depends entirely on why he became erect. I've become highly aroused and had very yummy orgasms from tickling people to whom I wasn't sexually attracted, because of the way I was straddling them while they writhed and jerked beneath me. Nothing to do with the sex of the 'lee, it was all about the stimulation (and the power
). Male tops have told me the same thing happens with them on occasion, friction to that area can cause an erection without attraction to the bottom. Hell, you guys can become erect if the wind blows, much less when performing your favorite torment on another human 😛 .
Jo, I think you hit it on the head for many of us who love moments like that. Sometimes the fact that something is sexy for us but not for the people actually involved is very stimulating-that's one reason we love mainstream scenes so much. It's one thing to see two people who are both sexually into tickling go at it, but to watch them when they're not remotely into it sexually and it's just about tickle-agony...damn that's nice 😎 . When a bunch of straight guys are tickling the living bejeezus out of another guy, you're seeing pure unadulterated ticklish suffering with no sexual attraction to soften the torture. I believe that even if you're the type that would walk out of the room, knowing about it is gonna affect the ticklephile in you; we notice when Fred tickles Barney, for cryin' out loud...🙄
Also, I've concluded that one can be drawn to a tickling without being sexually aroused by it. Tickling can be intense for our psyche without being erotically stimulating. I'm certainly not speaking for anyone other than myself, but personally I notice any type of tickling (or spanking) activity anywhere near me; my senses are heightened and I focus on it at least briefly, and WAY longer than a vanilla would. But if it involves people that I find unattractive for whatever reason, there's no sexuality involved. Just...awareness, for lack of a better term. Popeye tickling Olive is *so* not sexy to me, but if it's on the tv I'm definitely gonna notice it.
My 3 cents, YMMV,
Bella
That depends entirely on why he became erect. I've become highly aroused and had very yummy orgasms from tickling people to whom I wasn't sexually attracted, because of the way I was straddling them while they writhed and jerked beneath me. Nothing to do with the sex of the 'lee, it was all about the stimulation (and the power
). Male tops have told me the same thing happens with them on occasion, friction to that area can cause an erection without attraction to the bottom. Hell, you guys can become erect if the wind blows, much less when performing your favorite torment on another human 😛 .Jo, I think you hit it on the head for many of us who love moments like that. Sometimes the fact that something is sexy for us but not for the people actually involved is very stimulating-that's one reason we love mainstream scenes so much. It's one thing to see two people who are both sexually into tickling go at it, but to watch them when they're not remotely into it sexually and it's just about tickle-agony...damn that's nice 😎 . When a bunch of straight guys are tickling the living bejeezus out of another guy, you're seeing pure unadulterated ticklish suffering with no sexual attraction to soften the torture. I believe that even if you're the type that would walk out of the room, knowing about it is gonna affect the ticklephile in you; we notice when Fred tickles Barney, for cryin' out loud...🙄
Also, I've concluded that one can be drawn to a tickling without being sexually aroused by it. Tickling can be intense for our psyche without being erotically stimulating. I'm certainly not speaking for anyone other than myself, but personally I notice any type of tickling (or spanking) activity anywhere near me; my senses are heightened and I focus on it at least briefly, and WAY longer than a vanilla would. But if it involves people that I find unattractive for whatever reason, there's no sexuality involved. Just...awareness, for lack of a better term. Popeye tickling Olive is *so* not sexy to me, but if it's on the tv I'm definitely gonna notice it.
My 3 cents, YMMV,
Bella
Areenactor...
Tickling might be too sexual for you,but please don't group the rest of the world in your opinions about what orientation they are, because of who they choose to tickle or be tickled by.
I think Myriads said it best, when he said that fetishes can transend genders.
Tickling might be too sexual for you,but please don't group the rest of the world in your opinions about what orientation they are, because of who they choose to tickle or be tickled by.
I think Myriads said it best, when he said that fetishes can transend genders.
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