I'm curious do you think it's wrong or could be possibly against the law to get a prostitute to tickle or tickle you? As I can't see how they would be able to arrest or get you for eliciting a prostitute since there is no sex involved, which is one of the main reasons prostitution is illegal. I don't know how this one popped into my head, but I started to think about it recently. Any and all input is greatly appreciated.
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Well, you are paying for the services of the prositute and I don't see what it would legally matter if it was legal. It would be only fair he/she would consider your request being that this was a business transaction. Morally speaking its nothing compared to sex, and it makes their job easier and possibly more comfortable. It would be an easy alternative to actual sex and theres no diseases to contract, now is there?
So to answer your question, I don't see how its wrong. Your paying for a service, and if its too bizarre for her/him to tickle you or allow you to tickle her/him, then they need to re-evaluate the standards of their job and how they've set them.
Unless she/he is $500 dollars an hour or more, is looking good, and isn't just some bottom-feeding, wanton strumpet from the street corner or back alley, he/she shouldn't be telling you whats ok and whats not ok to do. Granted, everyone has rights, but they shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the request. Hell, what does he/she care? Its easy money, less of a mess, and who knows, he/she might just like it and make it part of their future services for their clients.
Note, I am against prostitution in all its forms so I don't really care for this, but found it such a compelling inquiry that I had to post. LOL ^__^
So to answer your question, I don't see how its wrong. Your paying for a service, and if its too bizarre for her/him to tickle you or allow you to tickle her/him, then they need to re-evaluate the standards of their job and how they've set them.
Unless she/he is $500 dollars an hour or more, is looking good, and isn't just some bottom-feeding, wanton strumpet from the street corner or back alley, he/she shouldn't be telling you whats ok and whats not ok to do. Granted, everyone has rights, but they shouldn't be so quick to dismiss the request. Hell, what does he/she care? Its easy money, less of a mess, and who knows, he/she might just like it and make it part of their future services for their clients.
Note, I am against prostitution in all its forms so I don't really care for this, but found it such a compelling inquiry that I had to post. LOL ^__^
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lrtk36 said:
I have to agree with that. Prostitution, is still prostitution, regardless if there is actual sexual content or not..... Big Brother does not really care if there is no sex involved, they are only concerned with a person offering a proposition to a prostitute.
Now the way to get around that is to avoid the "street walkers" and contact an escort agency or perhaps there may be a professional dungeon in your area (most states allow professional dungeons provided that sex is not part of it)
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It really depends of the state, even the city. Usually, for there to be a crime there has to be some kind of genital contact. That's the general guide and that's how the S&M people-for-hire don't get busted too often, even though it is a very sexual/sensual experience to some (and even involves the legal definition of assualt, depending on your kink).
But really, write your congressman.
But really, write your congressman.
If it really is the transacation portion that is illegal, why is it then okay for people in the BDSM community(Dommes/Masters) to do something similiar? Just kind of thinking out loud here, and I'm glad found of you found it interesting enough to post on
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I do not think it is wrong. Why?...well look at the definition of prostitution:
prostitution
n : offering sexual intercourse for pay [syn: harlotry, *****dom]
The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
If no sex has been *discussed* or acted upon, nothing has been violated. Ticking is NOT sex. The only reason cops are able to bust people before the act is because they engage in the direct discussion of sexual favors in trade for cash. Tickling does not fall in that category otherwise massages would be against the law too. It is a service that does not violate the sex act.
peace out,
daddy
prostitution
n : offering sexual intercourse for pay [syn: harlotry, *****dom]
The act or practice of engaging in sex acts for hire.
If no sex has been *discussed* or acted upon, nothing has been violated. Ticking is NOT sex. The only reason cops are able to bust people before the act is because they engage in the direct discussion of sexual favors in trade for cash. Tickling does not fall in that category otherwise massages would be against the law too. It is a service that does not violate the sex act.
peace out,
daddy
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believe it or not
here in illinois at least, it would be illegal to pay to tickle someone, or to have someone tickle you.
the catch is that you are paying for physical contact. that makes it illegal.
if you look at the escort sites you'll see the disclaimers saying that you are paying for the escort's time company only, and that anything that may occure beyond that is between 2 consenting adults, and not a gurantee. blah blah blah.
my personal opinion is that all forms of prostitution should be legalized, esp. tickling.
steve
here in illinois at least, it would be illegal to pay to tickle someone, or to have someone tickle you.
the catch is that you are paying for physical contact. that makes it illegal.
if you look at the escort sites you'll see the disclaimers saying that you are paying for the escort's time company only, and that anything that may occure beyond that is between 2 consenting adults, and not a gurantee. blah blah blah.
my personal opinion is that all forms of prostitution should be legalized, esp. tickling.
steve
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Is that right Steve?
Hmm...guess I'm a wanted man.
Sometimes superheroes have to cross the line to fight for what's right. And tickling is damn right! 😉
DK
Hmm...guess I'm a wanted man.
Sometimes superheroes have to cross the line to fight for what's right. And tickling is damn right! 😉
DK
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Tis a Gray area. The solicitation of any sexual act from hand jobs to blow jobs to any act considered deviant or sexual by nature in any form may be considered illegal and one can be "arrested" for it.
It may not go far in court in the araignment but nevertheless, fined or just inconvenience to the culprit will most likely happen.
IF you really want to know the definitive answer, you may want to seek out a site like an internet attorney type thing.
Play it safe........call an escort service. Why go to the "streets"?
Inviting trouble.........trouble usually shows up.
As far as the morality of it.......in my opinion, it is NOT immoral.
It's ONLY tickling!
TTD😉
It may not go far in court in the araignment but nevertheless, fined or just inconvenience to the culprit will most likely happen.
IF you really want to know the definitive answer, you may want to seek out a site like an internet attorney type thing.
Play it safe........call an escort service. Why go to the "streets"?
Inviting trouble.........trouble usually shows up.
As far as the morality of it.......in my opinion, it is NOT immoral.
It's ONLY tickling!
TTD😉
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The best thing to do, doesone, is find out what the law says in Washington state about prostitution. Then see what laws there are in your city. In TX, you wouldn't get busted for tickling, in IL you would.
It's kind of like this - police are looking to bust guys who go to prostitutes for 3 reasons.
1.) When they pay for sex, the state is losing tax revenue from that purchase.
2.) It's a health risk to the public with the possibility of disease transmission.
3.) Prostitution at the street level ususally involves drug trade, either the hooker doing it for drug money, or the john trading sex for drugs rather than money.
By asking for only tickling, reasons 2 & 3 dissapear pretty much, and reason one becomes less becuase the public morality issue has become less, and it is now more about the prostitute paying the sales tax to the state rather than you, the purchasr of goods/services. So... if you walked up to an undercover cop and offered her money ONLY for tickling, she's probably not go for it becuase she's there looking to catch more dangerous individuals and it would be a waste of her time & the state's to arrest you for such an odd but harmless request (if you did get busted, you would probabaly get a citation to appear in court, not a trip to jail). Do remember, though, that police ususally only do prostitution stings in areas where people complain about it. So if you were to pick up a street walker - and don't, BTW! - you'd best do it in a place that is less traveled and has minimal complaints. Police respond to the hooker complaints; no complaints, no sting.
There are no absolutes in this, but that's a general overview.
It's kind of like this - police are looking to bust guys who go to prostitutes for 3 reasons.
1.) When they pay for sex, the state is losing tax revenue from that purchase.
2.) It's a health risk to the public with the possibility of disease transmission.
3.) Prostitution at the street level ususally involves drug trade, either the hooker doing it for drug money, or the john trading sex for drugs rather than money.
By asking for only tickling, reasons 2 & 3 dissapear pretty much, and reason one becomes less becuase the public morality issue has become less, and it is now more about the prostitute paying the sales tax to the state rather than you, the purchasr of goods/services. So... if you walked up to an undercover cop and offered her money ONLY for tickling, she's probably not go for it becuase she's there looking to catch more dangerous individuals and it would be a waste of her time & the state's to arrest you for such an odd but harmless request (if you did get busted, you would probabaly get a citation to appear in court, not a trip to jail). Do remember, though, that police ususally only do prostitution stings in areas where people complain about it. So if you were to pick up a street walker - and don't, BTW! - you'd best do it in a place that is less traveled and has minimal complaints. Police respond to the hooker complaints; no complaints, no sting.
There are no absolutes in this, but that's a general overview.
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trepak said:
Damn right. Personally, I want nothing to do with prostitutes or prostitution. But the fact that it's illegal is just downright retarded. The sex is still between two consenting adults. Why does it matter if money is a factor? It's not illegal for two consenting adults to have sex, it's not illegal to give someone money. Seems to me, one (or two, as the case would be) could dance around the "legal" issue with careful wording and handling of a situation.
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I hate to be a wet blanket here, but I'll have to go so far as to say, yes, it's most likely deemed immoral (I'll leave the legal aspects for individual research). I've been pondering this topic at another discussion board- on the mertis of legalized prostitution, and have come to the following conclusions. Keep in mind the following arguement is generalized, but I believe sets up a strong caset.
Prostitution might be viewed as sex between consenting adults, with a nice capitalistic spin, witht he prostitute enjoying their work. No problems with that, right? Probably not, but I think that in a vast majority of the cases, that is not the situation, which leads to a strong argument against prostitution and this minor endorsement of it.
It's a very unhealthy and dangerous job. Though it gives a quick cash flow it also has several draw backs, including the legal problems, violent and dangerous employers, diseases, accidental pregnancy, and once a prostute's looks are gone, they are left with little or no job options. Coupled with this is usally substance abuse, which compounds the problems this trade offers. The job attracts runaways, addicts, and people using this as a last resort, and because of that, the johns/pimps are exploitattve in nature.
In this case, you'd be paying for tickling. While though not as bad as paying for sex, it is still an encouragement and contribution to the exploitative nature of prostitution. You maintain and support the lifestyle preclusive to this. In the classic moral sense- there are two sins- sins of action and omission. By supporting prostitution instead of working to make a better life so people do not have to fall back on such a choice, I believe it sins on both acting immorally and failing to stop the spread of what may be immorality.
Prostitution might be viewed as sex between consenting adults, with a nice capitalistic spin, witht he prostitute enjoying their work. No problems with that, right? Probably not, but I think that in a vast majority of the cases, that is not the situation, which leads to a strong argument against prostitution and this minor endorsement of it.
It's a very unhealthy and dangerous job. Though it gives a quick cash flow it also has several draw backs, including the legal problems, violent and dangerous employers, diseases, accidental pregnancy, and once a prostute's looks are gone, they are left with little or no job options. Coupled with this is usally substance abuse, which compounds the problems this trade offers. The job attracts runaways, addicts, and people using this as a last resort, and because of that, the johns/pimps are exploitattve in nature.
In this case, you'd be paying for tickling. While though not as bad as paying for sex, it is still an encouragement and contribution to the exploitative nature of prostitution. You maintain and support the lifestyle preclusive to this. In the classic moral sense- there are two sins- sins of action and omission. By supporting prostitution instead of working to make a better life so people do not have to fall back on such a choice, I believe it sins on both acting immorally and failing to stop the spread of what may be immorality.
I agree with those who suggest that government involvement in the prostitution issue should be limited. As far as I'm concerned, the only issue the government should concern itself with is the issue of public health. I would accept the regulation (not prohibition) of prostitution on the grounds that it prevents the spread of disease, but certainly not on the grounds that the government has some inherent right to legislate morality between consenting adults. I'll admit it's a tough issue, but in my opinion the issue of whether or not one pays/gets paid for sex/other fetish behavior is no one else's business unless they are creating a public health risk. That said, go ahead and follow your own conscience and do what you want, although you should be aware that if you get caught, someone may want to pass a constitutional amendment prohibiting the act of tickling for profit.
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in case i didn't make my views clear
on the morality side of this issue(which is what the thread is really about), i do not think it is immoral to pay to tickle, or be tickled.
you have to be some kind of tyranical puritanic nut to think that it is immoral.
steve
on the morality side of this issue(which is what the thread is really about), i do not think it is immoral to pay to tickle, or be tickled.
you have to be some kind of tyranical puritanic nut to think that it is immoral.
steve
doseone said:
Hi doseone:
Someone posted that propositioning a prostitute is illegal. I think it is actually if the proposition includes a dollar amount. Exchanging cash for favors is illegal in almost all states as far as I know. Now if the state actually got a cut of that it probably would not.
Have you tried placing free personal ads online, or even in your city superpages? Most cities have small local papers online where you can post a personal ad free as long as it does not exceed (x?)characters. It seems that this may be a safer form of finding what you are seeking rather than running the risk of being copjacked.
Of course, that's provided you intend to offer cash. Your post didn't say...maybe if you offered a trade instead? Foot rub for a tickle? No dollar amount = no law broken = basic barter system.
doseone said:
Hi doseone:
Someone posted that propositioning a prostitute is illegal. I think it is actually if the proposition includes a dollar amount. Exchanging cash for favors is illegal in almost all states as far as I know. Now if the state actually got a cut of that it probably would not.
Have you tried placing free personal ads online, or even in your city superpages? Most cities have small local papers online where you can post a personal ad free as long as it does not exceed (x?)characters. It seems that this may be a safer form of finding what you are seeking rather than running the risk of being copjacked.
Of course, that's provided you intend to offer cash. Your post didn't say...maybe if you offered a trade instead? Foot rub for a tickle? No dollar amount = no law broken = basic barter system.
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Wraith...
No offense, but I disagree with most of the argument presented.
Does it matter if the prostitute is enjoying it? Fact remains, she's agreeing to it. Hell, in a sense, it's a job. Work is rarely enjoyed.
It's a very unhealthy and dangerous job. Though it gives a quick cash flow it also has several draw backs, including the legal problems,
Not a problem if it's legalized.
violent and dangerous employers,
could just as well be handled as a seperate problem. The same way sexual harassment and/or abuse is not tolerated in any other job.
diseases, accidental pregnancy, and once a prostitute's looks are gone, they are left with little or no job options. Coupled with this is usally substance abuse, which compounds the problems this trade offers.
All risks the prostitute is likely aware of before becoming a prostitute.
The job attracts runaways, addicts, and people using this as a last resort, and because of that, the johns/pimps are exploitative in nature.
Basically, same response as "violent and dangerous employers".
Well, anyway, unless I'm mistaken, and this is just extra info with no real point, prostitution is legal in Nevada, except within the city of Las Vegas.
No offense, but I disagree with most of the argument presented.
WraithTickler said:
Does it matter if the prostitute is enjoying it? Fact remains, she's agreeing to it. Hell, in a sense, it's a job. Work is rarely enjoyed.
It's a very unhealthy and dangerous job. Though it gives a quick cash flow it also has several draw backs, including the legal problems,
Not a problem if it's legalized.
violent and dangerous employers,
could just as well be handled as a seperate problem. The same way sexual harassment and/or abuse is not tolerated in any other job.
diseases, accidental pregnancy, and once a prostitute's looks are gone, they are left with little or no job options. Coupled with this is usally substance abuse, which compounds the problems this trade offers.
All risks the prostitute is likely aware of before becoming a prostitute.
The job attracts runaways, addicts, and people using this as a last resort, and because of that, the johns/pimps are exploitative in nature.
Basically, same response as "violent and dangerous employers".
Well, anyway, unless I'm mistaken, and this is just extra info with no real point, prostitution is legal in Nevada, except within the city of Las Vegas.
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Public solicitation of a prostitute is illegal regardless of whether or not you are requesting sex, as you are both attempting to obtain services from an unlicensed street vendor and perpetuating a public nuisance.
Escort agencies are able to flourish and advertise publicly because they operate under the premise that they are offering companionship and non-sexual services. Although I personally wouldn't touch such an establishment with a proverbial ten foot pole, an escort agency might be just what whomever started this thread is looking for.
Escort agencies are able to flourish and advertise publicly because they operate under the premise that they are offering companionship and non-sexual services. Although I personally wouldn't touch such an establishment with a proverbial ten foot pole, an escort agency might be just what whomever started this thread is looking for.
Re: in case i didn't make my views clear
Which narrows it down to about two hundred million Americans. 😛
For the record I don't believe it is immoral and should be legalised, licensed and regulated as soon as possible; I'm totally with Steve on that one. (That goes for any kind of solicitation.) I think it's vital for the medical health and physical wellbeing and safety of the sex workers, and a vital outlet to people who can't get a shag anywhere else. Personally I think it'd be a strong factor in reducing sex-related crime.
areenactor said:
Which narrows it down to about two hundred million Americans. 😛
For the record I don't believe it is immoral and should be legalised, licensed and regulated as soon as possible; I'm totally with Steve on that one. (That goes for any kind of solicitation.) I think it's vital for the medical health and physical wellbeing and safety of the sex workers, and a vital outlet to people who can't get a shag anywhere else. Personally I think it'd be a strong factor in reducing sex-related crime.
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Are the women paid to be in tickling videos, thusly, prostitutes?
