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Our Most Intense Video Ever Made !!!

That's strange, I thought the government was in favor of torture. Cheney certainly is...
 
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Salut FT, si une fois je me suis posé des questions sur la véracité des rires, là ça déchire! Bon boulot mon gars!
 
MrMacphisto said:
That's strange, I thought the government was in favor of torture. Cheney certainly is...


Apparently not when he's not the one in charge of it...


Now hush... Before folks realize that we've emerged from the P&R Forum and come to lynch us! :jester:
 
Frenchtickling is one site where I retain a membership for months at a time rather than for one month and then a long break. This is because their material is plentiful and of high quality. I have never seen anything that has led me to believe that they would actually abuse any girl - on the contrary, their models seem to return again and again and have a good relationship with the FT's.

When I compare her present video with the previous ones, I ask myself> did she get tickled more or did she scream and perform more?
 
Think about this... If it was that bad and unbearable then why the hell would she let them untie her and retie her in a different position if the tickling was way too much... Use your brains people..............
 
I think we all agree that the best course of action is for everyone to buy this clip, and simply make their own decision.

In fact, going forward, I will buy every clip where this controversy arises.
 
And where are all the arguments we saw about the abuse and oppression of women, and they only do it because the money, and the rest of the bleeding heart excuses you lefties came out with on another tickle torture video only a few weeks ago?
 
Here's a response to the fellow who said that the right wing's influence on the government has reduced the bdsm videos we can see - that is wrong, wrong, wrong - it is the left wing's influence, including the bleeding heart liberal movement and its bastard child the feminist movement with their women's rights and dignity crap that started with the hippy movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s that has brought this about - before those elements arose, we could buy pulp fiction magazines with women in peril, spy novels in which female spies get interrogated, detective magazines with pictures of women in bondage and so on - hell, now, thanks to these liberal bleeding hearts I can't even import a bondage video or magazine into Canada because it shows the 'degradation of women' - so the customs officers take them - there's a gay book shop in Vancouver that's even filed suit against Canada Customs because they keep seizing their magazines and books - let us place the blame right where it belongs - on the liberal left and the stupid man-hating bluestockings of the feminist movement!
 
There are liberals AND conservatives that are to blame for censorship. The religious right and the politically correct left are the problem. It's not a one-sided issue. I'm a "leftie", but I still believe that people should be able to watch what they want to, whether it's on TV or on the internet. I'm sure there are right-wingers that feel the same way. This is more a matter of people knowing how to mind their own business than of political persuasion.
 
Well, without getting bogged down in a political debate, as something of a 'right-winger' myself, and a (now former) Insex member, I do feel that all parties are indeed to blame for what is happening.

I remember PD, the founder and creator of Insex, saying in a chat room, back in 2000, that if Bush was elected, Insex's days would be numbered. I disagreed. I was wrong.
 
Sunday_10pm said:
lol, did i make you feel dirty?

If that's what you want to do to women, you'll never be loved. Don't worry I'll leave you to enjoi your torture-porn!
Gotta love thoughtless, self-righteous nonsense.

Here's a Sherlock Holmes clue for you: When you see more than one bondage position, it's pretty likely that the model was untied and retied at some point. Therefore, unless firearms were involved, it doesn't seem that it could have been all that terribly non-consensual.

tkl-pen said:
Here's a response to the fellow who said that the right wing's influence on the government has reduced the bdsm videos we can see - that is wrong, wrong, wrong - it is the left wing's influence, including the bleeding heart liberal movement and its bastard child the feminist movement with their women's rights and dignity crap that started with the hippy movement in the late 1960s and early 1970s that has brought this about
I do believe that this is the first time I've ever seen Alberto Gonzales and Ed Meese identified as liberal feminists.
 
Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking bleeding hearts! And enough with this political bullshit! Don't anyone dare to politicise this issue. It is totally pointless.

Firstly, as many people have said already, Camille in this clip was UNTIED and tied in a different position. Unless she was forcibly made to do so, that means there was consent.

Secondly, this is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW! For one thing, I'd say it isn't even that intense compared to a lot of other stuff that is out there. But mostly I should point out that pretty much every producer has done a video like this. Remember when TIB tickled Haley Falls to tears - while she was gagged and couldn't possibly utter a safeword? If you're not wearing blinkers, you will. And remember Yaqi's spot on Texas news recently? In it, his female co-tickler (I forget her name) said, 'We use a safeword, but whether we choose to stop or not is another matter'. Then she laughed. IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME! That's why it's called 'tickle torture'. The clue is in the title. Less of the 'humanity', please, and more clips like this for those who are grateful to producers like FrenchTickling for taking the odd risk.

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theshire said:
Jesus Christ, enough with the fucking bleeding hearts! And enough with this political bullshit! Don't anyone dare to politicise this issue. It is totally pointless.

Firstly, as many people have said already, Camille in this clip was UNTIED and tied in a different position. Unless she was forcibly made to do so, that means there was consent.

Secondly, this is ABSOLUTELY NOTHING NEW! For one thing, I'd say it isn't even that intense compared to a lot of other stuff that is out there. But mostly I should point out that pretty much every producer has done a video like this. Remember when TIB tickled Haley Falls to tears - while she was gagged and couldn't possibly utter a safeword? If you're not wearing blinkers, you will. And remember Yaqi's spot on Texas news recently? In it, his female co-tickler (I forget her name) said, 'We use a safeword, but whether we choose to stop or not is another matter'. Then she laughed. IT HAPPENS ALL THE FUCKING TIME! That's why it's called 'tickle torture'. The clue is in the title. Less of the 'humanity', please, and more clips like this for those who are grateful to producers like FrenchTickling for taking the odd risk.

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i agree one hundred percent this is not the place for politics. and again as i have said before if you dont like this type of clip dont watch it. i watched the preview and personally cant see the big deal. i havent however been able to watch the whole video clip as i cant buy them. but she didnt look much like she was suffering.

isabeau
 
I'd like to apologise immediately for my aggressive tone above, but my point still stands.
 
dang your such a gentleman theshire. that was nice.....

isabeau
 
A gentleman? I don't know about that. Do gentlemen like to tickle torture tied up ladies until they're hoarse and blue in the face? :tickle: :wavingguy
 
theshire said:
A gentleman? I don't know about that. Do gentlemen like to tickle torture tied up ladies until they're hoarse and blue in the face? :tickle: :wavingguy

yesssssssssssssssssssssssssss where have you been all my life???? lol

isabeau :yowzer: :evilha:
 
che esagerazione

Fino ad oggi credo siano stati realizzati qualche migliaio(pressapoco 5000)clips sul solletico e nessuna mai ha avuto quella reazione.Secondo voi è esagerato,solo pubblicita',è un caso isolato!?!?
 
This isn't a discussion about politics. It's a discussion over whether our community embraces concepts like safe environments for models in ticking videos, including respect for safewords, etc. This is a very healthy discussion, even if it is a higher level discussion than most on this site. The discussion certainly has political elements and considerations, but that's healthy too.
 
Our discussion goes to an ever higher level, Peter, and that is whether women should have the freedom to decide what to do for themselves. When a model or actress is contracted, she knows what is expected of her. If she does not agree with it, then she simply declines the contract.

The woman in this video certainly puts on an act that it is too much for her - how much is real and how much is act I don't know and neither do you - but she did allow herself to be retied in another position and tickled again. So, again she made a decision and allowed it to be carried out.

For us to try to stop that is the same to me as trying to stop an abortion after a woman has decided to have one and is having it carried out - the decision is hers and hers alone. Those against abortion as a practice can scream and yell all they like. The decision is hers.

And so it is with tickling. If you like lame videos like that ridiculous tummy tickling thing you called 'hot-hot-hot' that is your privilege by all means - the woman decided to do that and it is there for you to enjoy as is your right. The women in SEAsia's and France's videos decided to do that and it is there for us to enjoy too - and to some of us they are 'hot'hot'hot' - so let us both appreciate the videos we like and relish the fact that in each case the women decided to provide their videos for us.
 
"Arret" simply means "Stop" in French

My French is rusty too, but I couldn't help but think I was hearing her screaming, "ARRETEZ" or "ARRET" (both mean stop - the first is more commanding, I think).

It's the same kind of thing that happens with many English spoken productions - where the model is screaming, "STOP!STOP!" over and over. At one point, they obviously stopped at her command...and at others didn't - for whatever reason (like a different word being designated as a safe word, perhaps).

She is definitely very ticklish, but it's speculative based on perspective whether or not she meant for them to definitely stop the filming (and other subsequent actions).

Let's face it - she was hired to be tickled for reaction...I'm sure she understood that going into the filming. Let us also face that our fetish straddles the line between consentual and non - which is why most of us enjoy it the way we do. While I would never exersize the depictions in the clip in the manner they were demonstrated, I think most of us agree that we enjoy the "fantasy" of the possibility of truth.

Anyway, I'm no psychologist or linguist (though I'm sure I've inadvertently come off like I'm trying to be) - but I do enjoy the fact that there is an open forum for us to put up ALL flavors of our fetish to share with like-minded individuals...I just wish there wasn't as much conflict (or specifically tempers) flaring on these forums these days. Over the 6 years I've lurked between the MousePad, and TMF, it seems to be getting worse...

ok-I'm off my soapbox now...
 
tkl-pen said:
Our discussion goes to an ever higher level, Peter, and that is whether women should have the freedom to decide what to do for themselves. When a model or actress is contracted, she knows what is expected of her. If she does not agree with it, then she simply declines the contract.

You seem to be missing the point. Which is, even if a woman signs a contract, she reserves certain rights implicitly. Now, I understand that you aren't an attorney, but let's just let it suffice to say that you cannot enforce a contract with physical force. So even if the woman demands that things stop in the middle, she always has that right, contract or not. I don't think you have to be an attorney to understand this basic concept. Just think about it.

The woman in this video certainly puts on an act that it is too much for her - how much is real and how much is act I don't know and neither do you - but she did allow herself to be retied in another position and tickled again. So, again she made a decision and allowed it to be carried out.

Exactly right. That's my point. I think you're so used to simply negating everything I say that you forgot my point.

For us to try to stop that is the same to me as trying to stop an abortion after a woman has decided to have one and is having it carried out

The "same"??? I'm so sure you can't possibly mean that, I'm not even going to respond.

If you like lame videos like that ridiculous tummy tickling thing you called 'hot-hot-hot' that is your privilege by all means - the woman decided to do that and it is there for you to enjoy as is your right. The women in SEAsia's and France's videos decided to do that and it is there for us to enjoy too - and to some of us they are 'hot'hot'hot' - so let us both appreciate the videos we like and relish the fact that in each case the women decided to provide their videos for us.

I like lots of different things for lots of different reasons. I'm certainly not a one-trick pony. I can apprecite beautiful faces, bellies, feet, asses -- even underarms. I have topped women in scenes that where totally erotic and sensual, and I've topped women in scenes that were totally intense and physically and mentally challenging. But I've NEVER ignored a safeword, and no one I've ever played with has ever had any reason to be pissed off at me. That's the difference between what TickleFrance is doing and what TTSEA is doing. TTSEA is BOASTING about ignoring safewords. That's just not cool.
 
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Well okay, Peter, enough of that - I'll just go off and write a new Haruki Saito story - and in part 4 there is no bondage - she's the one bringing it on.
 
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