Please help...convicts moving in!

[steph]

frankie!

 

[featherfingers]

Re: frankie!

Mmmm... your lips taste like cherries! Now, back to the topic at hand, were your guardian Angels watching over you last night? No problems from those new neighbors?

 

[steph]

Thanx to you and everyone else my sweet, no probs. Just for laughs I drove by this morning at 6 am. No activity at all...

XOXO

 

[featherfingers]

Thanx to you and everyone else my sweet, no probs. Just for laughs I drove by this morning at 6 am. No activity at all...

XOXO

Maybe 6am is their bedtime. Just don't go mooning them on your drive-bys. You'll either entice them or anger them, and you don't need the extra attention. You get enough from the guys here at TMF.

 

[steph]

LOL~maybe hon. Don't worry, I only moon people I LIKE! 😛
XOXO

 

[featherfingers]

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[steph]

You got it babe!

XOXO

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

Steph, you mentioned talking to the head of the neighborhood watch team. If you're concerned about illegal behavior, my only suggestion is to step up the "watch" activities. If you catch them doing something illegal, fine. Report it and let the authorities deal with them accordingly. Otherwise, there's nothing you can do other than make yourself nuts worrying about it.

Also, keep in mind that most criminals have yet to be caught and jailed. So, don't put so much emphasis on them that you let something else slip past.

One editorial comment. Your complaint comes across (to me at least) as a "We're too good for that element." They've done nothing wrong since moving in there...at least not that you've stated. If that IS how you feel, maybe you should look inside, rather than across the street?


Ann

 

[steph]

You don't find seeing your neighors standing outside in their underwear "wrong"????

I paid to live there, I didn't mooch off the government. I got that house by busting my ass and working for it.

In a sense you are right, I do think I'm "better" than them. I managed to keep myself out of jail all this time...

XOXO

 

[kis123]

You don't find seeing your neighors standing outside in their underwear "wrong"????

I paid to live there, I didn't mooch off the government. I got that house by busting my ass and working for it.

In a sense you are right, I do think I'm "better" than them. I managed to keep myself out of jail all this time...

XOXO

I'm not trying to change the purpose of the thread, but I am somewhat disturbed from your last post. Not everyone that has been in jail or has a criminal record did it intentionally or knowingly. There are a lot of people who made stupid, immature mistakes that landed them there. Does that mean they should continue to pay for it for the rest of their lives? Take it from someone who has watched a close relative deal with it. She did what her husband told her to do. She thought she was being a good wife. It got her arrested on a misdemanor charge but because it involved drug paraphenalia, it turned into a big deal when applying for jobs, schools, and licensing. She made a mistake. She went to jail. She went to court,and paid the stupid fine. Twelve years later, she's still paying for it.

It's nice to know that you've kept yourself out of jail this long. Is it because you've been crime free, or because you were lucky enough not to get caught?

I was a part of the public assistance system before. Does that mean I'm a bumb who mooches off the government? My son is permanently disabled-does that means he mooches off of SSI?

I've worked almost everyday of my life since I was 10 years old. I've been paying taxes since I was 15. If I fall on hard times (along with millions of other Americans who never thought they'd need assistance) I don't have a problem getting some help until I get back on my feet.

I love you sweetie and have always admired you. But I think there's a deeper issue going on here and if you stand back and review it, you may see it for yourself.

And no, I don't think people standing in public nearly nude is okay.

 

[steph]

No, no, I have NO problem with the people who legitimately NEED the aid~many of my patients are on GA and SSI!!

Sorry about your friend. These people, as I understand it were PRISONERS, not jailed. This is serious stuff hon. I'm one who is aware that people are sometimes wrongly convicted but in a house of 4 of them, I doubt it, especially considering their bizarre behavior. It sounds to me like they're still likely indulging in illegal activity and haven't learned their lesson at all.

I'm a huge believer in personal responsibility, BTW. You make a bad decision, you pay the price. Been that way all my life.

Oh no, I'm not saying I'm perfect. I've gotten speeding tickets, etc.

I love you too. I just worry about everyone's safety here, I mean there are little kids, elderly folks, what if these people are murderers, rapists? I intentionally chose a neighborhood that I KNEW I'd feel safe in and now that's been compromised so I'm angry. So sorry for any misunderstanding.

XOXO

 

[kis123]

Well, I'm glad to hear I was wrong. I thought I was wrong anyway! I know everyone has a trigger that when pulled, they just go ballistic. This happens to be your trigger. Mine is different. My education, intelligence, and basic common sense just flies out of the window on certain issues.

I've read some of my older posts and couldn't believe how I must have sounded to TMF members. But passion and rage have a very thin line between them and I'm trying to learn not to cross it.

No harm, no foul. I hope these guys mind their p's and q's or they're going to be arrested by the Steph police!

 

[steph]

LOL!



Ya, it's not Rodeo Drive or anything but it is a nice middle class place, we almost lost it once before, years ago, due to some bad financial advice but we made a comeback.

I'm a freak for feeling safe, you are right~my trigger, well put! Just something I'm passionate about~I'm like some kind of territorial psychotic dog or something!

XOXO

 

[featherfingers]

Steph, still no answer from my lawyer friend about your situation. And I think both you and Kis have handled the situation admirably. That's one reason why I'd like to see a female President in the White House someday. I think they can discuss things better than men. They don't let their egos cloud their thinking as much.

 

[steph]

That's okay hon, I've got the time.

Oh, kis and I respect each other a lot, have PM'd in the past etc., that one was easy to fix! She knows me enough now that I can get overexcited about things sometimes (Italians!) and speak before I think...😛

I do appreciate your help with this though, especially since your lawyer friend's lived thru it and knows how scary this can be. Actually I appreciate everyone's thoughts. I'm sure it'll work itself out soon enough...

XOXO

 

[featherfingers]

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[steph]

😉 😉 😉

 

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OMG, I love it!!

ROFL

 

[Limeoutsider]

got a weed and seed program ?

 

[TklDuo-Ann]

You don't find seeing your neighors standing outside in their underwear "wrong"????

In a sense you are right, I do think I'm "better" than them. I managed to keep myself out of jail all this time...

Sorry I didn't get back to this sooner, Steph. I'm not saying that you shouldn't be concerned enough to check into things. I'm also not saying that I'd enjoy seeing some guy standing outside in his undies. (though this is actually common in some areas) If he did it during the day when kids were up and around I'd be more concerned. However, I AM saying that I'd be cautious about judging every move by a preconceived set of expectations.

I like my safety and security too. Yet, I have a drug dealer living down the street and vandals across the street. We set up safeguards as needed and will report any events that need police attention. I've never been in jail either. But, that doesn't mean that I haven't made my share of mistakes. I just didn't get jailed for the ones I made.

I DO think that people can change, though. One example is a guy I knew in highschool. He made our lives hell for quite some time. He stole and vandalized things...even threw a tree branch through our front window one night. He finally ended up in jail for some of his antics. He did his time, dealt with his demons and was released. You know what he's doing now? He's counselling troubled teens to help them avoid the mistakes he made. Obviously, not everyone is going to do a 180 like Brian did. But, none of them will if we don't give them half a chance.

I paid to live there, I didn't mooch off the government. I got that house by busting my ass and working for it.

Though I agree that we shouldn't be handing out aid without restrictions, I think we'd have a bigger problem if we didn't subsidize ex-cons for a short period of time. The option is to just dump them back on the street with no home, no job and no direction. That's as good as saying, "OK you're free to go break the law again." Without temporary assistance, there's little chance of them turning around. (Frankly, I think the "jobs" they hold while in prison should pay for this. But, at $0.13/hr, that wouldn't et them far.) The system is majorly f'ed up. But, it's all we have right now.

All this having been said, I DO hope that there won't be any problems with these guys and that you can feel secure again.

Ann

 

[steph]

Thank you Ann...Well the guy across the street from these folks sells grass, the kid across the street from me was on house arrest for making fake IDs, they're neat guys and we get along great.

What these folks do during the day, I can't speak to, I'm at work. time will tell.

Your high school guy story made me smile. When I was 21, my boyfriend was an EMT~we dated for two years. I hated his crosstops and weed addiction (yeah, I know I'm square!) 😀 he dragged me to his high school 5 year reunion (sp?) where he commenced to get drunk and stoned, I was mortified~I lived an hour away and he was my ride home! The guy who came to my rescue was named Frank HOOD (who apparently was one in high school) and everyone knew it. He'd since turned born again Christian, was a total sweetheart and refused the gas money I tried to give him for driving so far out of his way at 1 am!

I think it's the fact that there are going to be FOUR of them that's freaking me out most!

Thanks for your input though, I'm sure it'll be fine, eventually, I just don't want things to get ugly...

XOXO

 

[Azrael]

Hoo, Boy

It may put your mind slightly at ease to think about all of the other reasons, besides reasons involving criminal intent, that an individual may be up at night instead of during the day. Many students study for long periods of time at night, or have most of their fun at night. A lot of people work third shift jobs, and this is the level of employment that a former convict is likely to be able to secure right away... a factory, or similar production work. Third shift typically pays 10-25% more than first and second shift in places such as this.

For my part, my sleep schedule is usually from 6am-2pm. I dislike mornings intensely, and I prefer to be active at night largely because most other people aren't. I live in a neighborhood that's frequented by missionaries from the Mormon and Witness faiths, as well as door-to-door salesmen, and I've had trouble in the past with a former landlord and the police (parking tickets that I never saw, nor received any notification for). I prefer being up and about when I'm less likely to be bothered by the-gods-know-who. I don't drink, or smoke, or do drugs--never have--I don't party, or have a lot of visitors of a disruptive nature (or otherwise) and aforementioned parking tickets are more or less the most damning legal issues I've ever been involved in.

It is important to remember that the people moving in are FORMER convicts. They aren't 'convicts,' convicts live in prisons behind concrete walls, searchlights, and barbed wire. Former convicts have served their debt to society, and if they are believed to be of any danger afterwards they are monitored, otherwise they're free to attempt to resume a normal life... which many of them manage to do, one of my housemates amongst them. I've lived in the same house, with no locks on the bedroom doors, for ten months now, and I've had no problems whatsoever with the convict one room removed from me (whereas the clean-cut individual one more room removed from me is obnoxious, self-centered, and domineering; it is because of his presence that I am currently looking for a new place to live).

 

[featherfingers]

A case of "you can't judge a book by it's cover".

 

[deac95661]

I too have had some very serious sleep pattern issuses, and while my neighbors perhaps think I am doing something illegal I am willing to openly respond if they ask. We all have this nature to prejudge because others are not doing what we do and perhaps we have good reasons in our own minds, but like others have said before, "don't judge a book by its' cover". Enjoy your peace and solitude and let them do the same until you have more concrete proof

 

[steph]

Thanks for your thoughts all...I'll keep ya posted!

XOXO