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Police: Wal-Mart Shopper Slaps Crying Child

Knot Amewzed said:
In bondage?
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No, but it's so hot that you said that.

Fire_Sprite said:
I'm not friends with people who would playfully do either of those things, but the face would probably hurt more. But if the abuse thing is an issue of pain then its really a matter of force applied instead of location.
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Being smacked in the face is much more humiliating than being smacked on the ass. Abuse isn't only about pain, it's about control and making someone feel like they're less than their abuser. This is why emotional abuse can be just as bad or worse than physical abuse.
 
Skipadeedoodah said:
No, but it's so hot that you said that.



Being smacked in the face is much more humiliating than being smacked on the ass. Abuse isn't only about pain, it's about control and making someone feel like they're less than their abuser. This is why emotional abuse can be just as bad or worse than physical abuse.
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They're children! They damn well better feel like less than their abuser.
 
Being smacked in the face is much more humiliating than being smacked on the ass. Abuse isn't only about pain, it's about control and making someone feel like they're less than their abuser. This is why emotional abuse can be just as bad or worse than physical abuse.
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Really? I would have thought being spanked would be more humiliating then being slapped in the face.
 
Fire_Sprite said:
They're children! They damn well better feel like less than their abuser.
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:shock:

I don't even know how to respond to that.

I'm assuming you mean they should feel less than their PARENT. No child should have an abuser. Operating under the assumption that you DON'T condone child abuse, I'm going to say that children should hold a great deal of respect for their parents, but they should never be made to feel humiliated or degraded. That's not parenting. That's abuse.
 
You're the one who first used the word abuser you silly goose. Obviously we're talking about parental discipline.
 
My first post...

Skipadeedoodah said:
So, if a friend playfully smacks your ass you'd feel the same as if they playfully smacked your face?
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Your first post...

Fire_Sprite said:
I'm not friends with people who would playfully do either of those things, but the face would probably hurt more. But if the abuse thing is an issue of pain then its really a matter of force applied instead of location.
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Just to clarify 🙂
 
Well you're the one who took offense to the wording.

But whatever. Lets finish this thread off.

Hitting other people's kids is wrong.

Don't slap or hit people's asses unless invited.

Kids are annoying.

Old people are assholes.
 
Fire_Sprite said:
But whatever. Lets finish this thread off.

Hitting other people's kids is wrong.

Kids are annoying.

Old people are assholes.
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I agree with all of this.


However...
Fire_Sprite said:
Don't slap or hit people's asses unless invited.
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To use an awesome quote from Pulp Fiction and make Knot adore me...

"Isn't it more exciting when you don't have permission?"
 
Those of you without kids should understand that a two year old is still very much a baby even thought it can probably walk on it's own and knows several words. The reason the kid was crying could have been one of many. The child may have had to potty, or maybe that child was in some sort of discomfort from riding in the cart, or could have been hungry. This is all they know how to draw attention to something they need, other than seeing a toy and throwing a tantrum to get it. I have been in this situation only four short years ago and believe me it is no picnic when a kid goes off like this for whatever reason. When it happened to me I was lucky enough to have just started shopping so we left the store.

I do know that you don't smack a kid for biological functions and sometimes it is difficult to instantly figure out what is bothering them. Any discipline on this occasion is just not in the kids best interest. Period. Now I don't know what the mother intended to do but this man should have never touched that child. What would I have done in the mother's place? I can only think i might rush the child to the main desk for her safety and report the guy. In this small town if I new the person at the desk I would secure my daughter there and then go looking for the guy and hope I get to him before security does. I would want to show him what it feels like to be blindsided by a stranger, and with prejudice.
 
kered said:
Those of you without kids should understand that a two year old is still very much a baby even thought it can probably walk on it's own and knows several words. The reason the kid was crying could have been one of many. The child may have had to potty, or maybe that child was in some sort of discomfort from riding in the cart, or could have been hungry. This is all they know how to draw attention to something they need, other than seeing a toy and throwing a tantrum to get it. I have been in this situation only four short years ago and believe me it is no picnic when a kid goes off like this for whatever reason. When it happened to me I was lucky enough to have just started shopping so we left the store.

I do know that you don't smack a kid for biological functions and sometimes it is difficult to instantly figure out what is bothering them. Any discipline on this occasion is just not in the kids best interest. Period. Now I don't know what the mother intended to do but this man should have never touched that child. What would I have done in the mother's place? I can only think i might rush the child to the main desk for her safety and report the guy. In this small town if I new the person at the desk I would secure my daughter there and then go looking for the guy and hope I get to him before security does. I would want to show him what it feels like to be blindsided by a stranger, and with prejudice.
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QFT
 
Alright, let's put this into reality terms.

This is probably crossing the line. Yes.

At the same time, a controlled style of discipline can be an asset. Whether it being physically restraining movement of a child during a stern talking to, or an outburst which actually produces fear rather than pain, all can work and have worked. The fact of the matter is, negative reinforcement works different ways at different ages. A two year old isn't going to be upset because it disappointed its parents. Sternness can be very effective.

Punishment should not be doled out in anger. The parent needs to be in control. This doesn't mean punting a child across the aisle or taking a belt to them.

Though at the same time, I also believe there is an argument for semantics sake. There is physical pressure exerted even in controlled discipline. Without it, it's bluster.
 
meangry said:
Alright, let's put this into reality terms.

This is probably crossing the line. Yes.

At the same time, a controlled style of discipline can be an asset. Whether it being physically restraining movement of a child during a stern talking to, or an outburst which actually produces fear rather than pain, all can work and have worked. The fact of the matter is, negative reinforcement works different ways at different ages. A two year old isn't going to be upset because it disappointed its parents. Sternness can be very effective.

Punishment should not be doled out in anger. The parent needs to be in control. This doesn't mean punting a child across the aisle or taking a belt to them.

Though at the same time, I also believe there is an argument for semantics sake. There is physical pressure exerted even in controlled discipline. Without it, it's bluster.
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A parent disciplining a child with minimal physical force is not out of line. A random bystander disciplining a child with minimal physical force without the consent of the parent and after making such an aggressive and abrasive statement to the parent is. And is most certainly grounds to be locked away and spend the next 5 years as a big guy named "Bubba"s bitch. And I promise you, people who get locked away for things like this get the worst of it in prison...
 
meangry said:
Alright, let's put this into reality terms.

This is probably crossing the line. Yes.

At the same time, a controlled style of discipline can be an asset. Whether it being physically restraining movement of a child during a stern talking to, or an outburst which actually produces fear rather than pain, all can work and have worked. The fact of the matter is, negative reinforcement works different ways at different ages. A two year old isn't going to be upset because it disappointed its parents. Sternness can be very effective.

Punishment should not be doled out in anger. The parent needs to be in control. This doesn't mean punting a child across the aisle or taking a belt to them.

Though at the same time, I also believe there is an argument for semantics sake. There is physical pressure exerted even in controlled discipline. Without it, it's bluster.
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I agree that physical punishment, though not everyone's cup of tea, can be used and be effective without it being "abuse". My parents spanked us when we were bad and it didn't make me fear them or hate them or anything like that.

The problem I have with this particular situation is that someone besides the parents or caretaker put his hands on this child. That was unacceptable.

And negative reinforcement is not doing something the child doesn't like to try and discourage a specific behavior. It's removing something the child doesn't like to try and encourage a specific behavior. It's entirely different than punishment, which is what we're discussing here.
 
BellaRisa said:
A) No 2 yr old deserves to be slapped in the face. Folks, please do not procreate until you understand that. You find a way to calm your child down, remove them from the situation if you need to, but you don't hurt your baby for crying unless you're trying to create a serial killer from scratch.

B) Somebody else slapping one of my babies??? You wouldn't even be able to identify the body from the ashes I left. And since you can't have a trial for a pile of dust I'd save the courts money.
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I officially love you to bits!!

As far as the OP goes. This assmonkey has NO RIGHT to hit someone else's child. If anyone thinks that's okay you should be shot along with the fucker that did it. Even if it was not my child and i witnessed this. I would have crippled the fucker for EVER hitting a child let alone someone else's child.
 
The guy didn't sound terribly right in the head. I don't think most find it socially acceptable to go around slapping others for things they don't like, let alone someone else's child. I'm not sure what was going on in that cranium hole. If I witnessed this in person, I would be frozen and completely shocked.
 
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