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So are women "sluts" and men "studs" in your opinion, for the same behavior?

Babbles

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So are women "sluts" and men "studs" in your opinion, for the same behavior?

If a woman sleeps with 2 or more men relatively quickly, in a day or a week, or however long, do you consider her a "slut"?

And if a man does the very same thing, or sleeps with her knowing she was just with 1-2 others, do you consider him a "stud"?

Or do you consider the man a "slut" also?

Or perhaps you consider the woman a "stud"? (Go girl?)

Or do you consider both of them neither a slut nor a stud but maybe just (a bit oversexed? Hormonally challenged? Smart? Unwise? Unsafe?)

I'm curious as to the perspectives in this Forum.... I've seen a few, but I'm curious on a broader scope.
 
Depends how old they are. If they're both nineteen I would just consider them teenagers.
If they're both in their forties, I'm too young to judge them.
If they're in their twenties, I don't care anyway *sulk*
 
If a woman bangs two guys in as many hours, I'd call her a slut. If a guy bangs two women in as many hours, I'd consider him a hound dog. Both terms are gender specific by traditional slang definitions.

I'd say both of them are likely to contribute to society such wonderful gifts like the spreading of venereal disease as well as unwanted children.

But that's just my opinion.
 
If a woman bangs two guys in as many hours, I'd call her a slut. If a guy bangs two women in as many hours, I'd consider him a hound dog. Both terms are gender specific by traditional slang definitions.

I'd say both of them are likely to contribute to society such wonderful gifts like the spreading of venereal disease as well as unwanted children.

But that's just my opinion.

I'm assuming that, implicit to this discussion, both parties are being safe regarding birth-control, protection, etc. I gathered this was more about the social mores of sex than about consequences of unsafe sex.

In which case, if a man or woman has two sexual partners in as many minutes I still say good show - all the power to them, if that's what they want.
 
The concept of insulting a woman because of her sexual habits has to do with the cultural categorization of women. Because most cultures are patriarchal in design (including America), the women in said cultures were thought to be weaker than men, and so, unworthy of roles that required strength, responsibility and authority. As a result, women were given positions of social maintenance, the biggest of which were domestic roles (mother, wife, homemaker, etc.), and this was considered an important job that kept society together: men were the explorers and providers, women stayed at home and kept the social machine lubed up and running.

Since the biggest responsibility women were charged with were breeding a family, it was an almost treacherous act for a woman to threaten the bloodline by having multiple partners: viable birth control is only 60 years old, so a woman keeping monogamous and chaste was a big deal for a long time. Added to which, most Western culture is Abrahamically influenced, so monogamy and feminine subordination was considered a huge religious deal as well. And also since women are not as openly or aggressively promiscuous as men tend to be, it was generally considered throughout ages that a sexually self-possessed woman was not normal, and people were very good at convincing women of this particular myth as well.

So most of the negative shit surrounding women for being "sluts" or "*****s"--different words, but used almost interchangeably--largely has to do with role violation. If women had the same sexual appetites as men, and were allowed the same pursuits, it violates the traditional role responsibility that kept the two genders separate. Since patriarchies tend to define masculinity by its LACK of feminine traits, any semblance of overlap is seen as female weakness contaminating masculine strength. The same thing happened in post-Civil War America: "white men" were "superior" to "niggers" so if "niggers" had the same rights, privileges, and value as "white men", how could you be better then them? To a lot of people, that was seen as devaluing "whiteness" and a lot of that sentiment survives today. Same thing with sex and gender.

So for most traditionalists, how can you define your masculinity/femininity if the two start to overlap?

And since women are far more social by nature than men, they tend to take role position very seriously; if you don't behave accordingly, you're stepping out of line and making the other members of the group look bad. Even if they themselves might sympathize or feel the same way, they won't admit it for the sake of preserving reputation because reputation determines the social value in the eyes of others. That's why a lot of women will attack each other for the same things that men insult them for: they consider it a violation of the natural order, or hierarchy of how genders are supposed to behave and act.

The way I see it, there's preference and responsibility. You can be promiscuous and responsible, and monogamous and irresponsible, and vice versa.
 
The concept of insulting a woman because of her sexual habits has to do with the cultural categorization of women. Because most cultures are patriarchal in design (including America), the women in said cultures were thought to be weaker than men, and so, unworthy of roles that required strength, responsibility and authority. As a result, women were given positions of social maintenance, the biggest of which were domestic roles (mother, wife, homemaker, etc.), and this was considered an important job that kept society together: men were the explorers and providers, women stayed at home and kept the social machine lubed up and running.

Since the biggest responsibility women were charged with were breeding a family, it was an almost treacherous act for a woman to threaten the bloodline by having multiple partners: viable birth control is only 60 years old, so a woman keeping monogamous and chaste was a big deal for a long time. Added to which, most Western culture is Abrahamically influenced, so monogamy and feminine subordination was considered a huge religious deal as well. And also since women are not as openly or aggressively promiscuous as men tend to be, it was generally considered throughout ages that a sexually self-possessed woman was not normal, and people were very good at convincing women of this particular myth as well.

So most of the negative shit surrounding women for being "sluts" or "*****s"--different words, but used almost interchangeably--largely has to do with role violation. If women had the same sexual appetites as men, and were allowed the same pursuits, it violates the traditional role responsibility that kept the two genders separate. Since patriarchies tend to define masculinity by its LACK of feminine traits, any semblance of overlap is seen as female weakness contaminating masculine strength. The same thing happened in post-Civil War America: "white men" were "superior" to "niggers" so if "niggers" had the same rights, privileges, and value as "white men", how could you be better then them? To a lot of people, that was seen as devaluing "whiteness" and a lot of that sentiment survives today. Same thing with sex and gender.

So for most traditionalists, how can you define your masculinity/femininity if the two start to overlap?

And since women are far more social by nature than men, they tend to take role position very seriously; if you don't behave accordingly, you're stepping out of line and making the other members of the group look bad. Even if they themselves might sympathize or feel the same way, they won't admit it for the sake of preserving reputation because reputation determines the social value in the eyes of others. That's why a lot of women will attack each other for the same things that men insult them for: they consider it a violation of the natural order, or hierarchy of how genders are supposed to behave and act.

The way I see it, there's preference and responsibility. You can be promiscuous and responsible, and monogamous and irresponsible, and vice versa.

I must say that I find that a very good analysis of the possible cause of this phenomenon.

I think it's a load of hooey, I try to steer clear of double standards and abrahamic religion imposed cultural values.
 
If a key opens any lock, it's a master key.

If a lock can be opened by any key, it's a shitty lock.
 
both are sluts. I don't approve of one-night stands, and I don't accept paralel relationships 🙂
 
Depends on the company people keep, I guess.
I'm pretty much for equality on such matters. I don't care so long as they are open and honest about what they are.

Still. I believe this is the job description of a porn star... Fuck, fuck, fuck with more than one, then fuck the other, then....


Thinking more about this, if a guy calls a woman a slut for fucking two or more guys a night it's probably because women can have sex many times in a night and we men... well, very few of us can.... It's possibly a case of pure jealousy.
 
I'm too young to honestly care and provide a well thought out response, so I'll just agree with Fire Sprite 😛
 
When I find out a person sleeps around a lot, their level of attractiveness drops exponentially, no matter what their genitalia lol.
 
Because double standards are still alive and well. On both sides of the field.

Women have always been pushed to be more 'pure', since...I dunno, whenever. I think it was way back in the mid 80s and before married women were basically ostracized from society for sleeping with another man, yet men that did such with women was pretty acceptable. Kinda interesting that this type of belief still carries on to today, though not to that extent.
 
The woman is a slut.
The man is a stud.

Is that what you're going for?
 
I will just quote Hank Hill for this question:
"It's called the double standard, Bobby. Don't knock it — we got the long end of the stick on that one."

And there you have it!
 
For me the world “slut” is very specific. It means prostitute or someone who sells flesh for money, one who carelessly engages sex with multiple partners for profit. It applies to both genders.

When a person is acting like a sex addict or looking for sex everywhere, I call them either nymphomaniac, hypersexual or promiscuous.

If I use the word "slut" it is more or less a joke. I am very discreet on it and careful.
 
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Babbles, to answer your question, I think both genders are wrong.

It would be hypocritical for me to call a guy a "stud", and a woman a "slut" for the same behavior.

I had a male friend in college, who had at least four girlfriends in the two years I knew him, and slept with them all. In my opinion, anyone who just acquires and drops partners, merely for the purpose of sleeping with as many people as possible, regardless of their gender, is a "slut", be it "male slut" or "female slut". I used to get infuriated with him, because of the way treated women. Not only did he treat women like shit, but, he cheated on every girlfriend he ever had when I knew him.

So, the answer to your question, is no.

Mitch
 
Babbles, to answer your question, I think both genders are wrong.

It would be hypocritical for me to call a guy a "stud", and a woman a "slut" for the same behavior.

I had a male friend in college, who had at least four girlfriends in the two years I knew him, and slept with them all. In my opinion, anyone who just acquires and drops partners, merely for the purpose of sleeping with as many people as possible, regardless of their gender, is a "slut", be it "male slut" or "female slut". I used to get infuriated with him, because of the way treated women. Not only did he treat women like shit, but, he cheated on every girlfriend he ever had when I knew him.

So, the answer to your question, is no.

Mitch

Based on this, your issue has nothing to do with being sexually active, your issue is with people treating other people disrespectfully, dishonestly, etc. Not everyone who is sexually promiscuous is lying and cheating. This is about sexual promiscuity in and of itself, not the behaviour you're describing here - which any decent person would object to.
 
LD, I realize that. I know that some people choose to play the field, and sleep with different partners.

As with anything, it's not my place to judge. I dont personally subscribe to such a lifestyle, as I prefer the idea of being in a managomous relationship. If someone finds that playing the field, and sleeping with different partners works for them, be they male or female, then that's their business.

Mitch
 
I will just quote Hank Hill for this question:
"It's called the double standard, Bobby. Don't knock it — we got the long end of the stick on that one."

And there you have it!

This^

Double standards exist. If I call Miley Cyrus "hot" i'd be a pedophile. If the 40 year old woman down the street called Taylor Lautner from Twilight hot she'd be cool!

Guy offers to go dutch on a date...and he's cheap.
Girl offers to go dutch on a date....and she's modern.

So i'll pay for my date's meal. Hook up with lots of women(respectfully and safely....women love sex too) and do the "Heisman" on sluts, while closing my eyes whenever Miley is on. I love being a stud.

Double standard....yes! Hypocritical...darn right.

GQ
 
Those who feel the need to judge others' sex lives are just insecure about their own.
 
Both are sluts, but us men get a pass because we are wired different. its what we are supposed to do. :toast:
 
I don't agree with cheering a guy for something and then crapping on a woman for doing the same, any more then I would cheer a woman for doing something I would crap on a guy for. The one place where things are different between men and women when it comes to sex is that a guy has to work for it when it comes to winning favor, or earning consent. All a woman has to do is walk up to a guy and say "So do you wanna?", so some people may base this "Slut vs Stud" thing on that, because in most cases it is no effort for a woman to find a sexual partner. I don't agree with it, but that is one possibility.

For the record, I hear women tossing that term around allot more then men.
ST
 
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This^

Double standards exist. If I call Miley Cyrus "hot" i'd be a pedophile. If the 40 year old woman down the street called Taylor Lautner from Twilight hot she'd be cool!

This is true. Check my the attachment. "Twilight dads" drooling after Kristen Stewart would be just gross.

Female sexuality has been a taboo for so long, that discussing about it is almost always seen in a positive light. And of course, after millennia of sexual repression, this kind of freedom is a good thing.

The negative side of this feministic discourse is, that male sexuality is usually seen as a corruptive force. A sexually open female is usually considered modern (in a positive way), a sexually open male is considered a chauvinist or a creep.
 
I had a male friend in college, who had at least four girlfriends in the two years I knew him, and slept with them all. In my opinion, anyone who just acquires and drops partners, merely for the purpose of sleeping with as many people as possible, regardless of their gender, is a "slut", be it "male slut" or "female slut". I used to get infuriated with him, because of the way treated women.

One girlfriend every 6 months is about average for college age kids.
Let's not confuse "morals" with "inability to get laid".
 
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