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Stern Side Kick tried to kill himself...

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Howard Stern's side kick Artie Lange tried to kill himself yesterday by stabbing himself 9 times. This guys brain must be really fucked from all the drugs and booze because he was pretty much living a life most of us would have wanted. I mean there are aspects to everybody's life that suck, not the least of witch would be having your father die when you are fairly young, as Lange’s did. I wouldn't give up the last 36 year of my relationship with my dad... tyrant that he can be sometimes :paranoia: ... but if I had could make good money doing something I loved working for a guy I grew up listening to on the radio, I sure would think twice about quitting that job let alone killing myself. Part of me feel bad for Artie because he is obviously hurting, but part of me is that want to kick him in the ass because I would have loved to have been a member of the Stern Show cast, and have people taping me off the radio the same way I used to tape him.

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Artie stabbed himself 9 times? Wow, talk about overkill! If he were serious about it, as opposed to a cry for attention, he would have stabbed himself once...where it counts. Or use a gun with one bullet.

For his own sake, I hope he gets the help he needs. It always pisses me off when people who are living what I would term a "fun life" try to kill themselves.
 
ARtie lang is a very funny guy. Its such a shame.
 
It's a cry for attention, that's all. Anyone with an IQ of more than 50 (80 is functionally retarded, btw) knows how to kill themselves properly - so anybody who "fails" at killing themselves is an attention-seeking pussy who, for one reason or another, isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life.

So there.
 
First of all, we all know so little about his life, that to pass any kind of judgment on whether or not he "should" have tried to kill himself is ridiculous. He could have been on drugs. He could suffer from mental illness. There are a million critical details we have no way of knowing anything about.

Second of all, suicide, attempted suicide, and suicidal thoughts are not something to be taken lightly - EVER. Attention seeking individuals don't often say, "I want some attention today. Let me fake a suicide attempt." Attention seeking behavior is something that builds over time. Perhaps Artie had been exhibiting attention seeking behavior for awhile, and this was just the first thing that made the news. Regardless, attempted suicide is not a "pussy" move, and it certainly does not mean that someone isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life. Your hardships, my hardships and the guy around the corner's hardships are all different, as are our abilities to cope. No one's struggles should be minimized, nor should their attempts to deal with those struggles, even if they may be just cries for help. If that is the case, the necessary help should be given rather than the individual be criticized. You never when those cries for help, if they continue to be ignored, will turn into the real thing.

Being suicidal is one of the saddest, loneliest, hardest moments in a person's life. Even if they don't ever make the attempt, to sincerely contemplate suicide, or to feel that you are so trapped that you have no choice but to fake a suicide attempt to get the attention and help that you need, is a sad and serious issue, and not one to be taken lightly or dismissed as "attention-seeking".

I sincerely hope that no one here who has said some of these, in my opinion, totally inappropriate and insensitive, comments - or the people who will say them later on in this thread, ever have to come face to face with any aspect of suicide. That having been said, I do hope that you come to understand the severity of it in any form: thoughts, attempts or actual death.
 
ViperGTS said:
so anybody who "fails" at killing themselves is an attention-seeking pussy who, for one reason or another, isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life.

So there.
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I think that's a terrible thing to say.
 
If I hung around Howard that long I prolly would have shot myself years ago..
 
Anyone who has ever followed Artie Lange knows that the man has struggled with drug addiction for years. I'm not going to justify the ignorant comments in this thread with a response. I will say that I hope that he gets the help that he needs and is able to return to a stable existence.
 
When Howard was still local in this area, I remember Artie talking about his father. Sounds like they were practically best friends. His dad passed away after a few years of having been paralyzed from an accident at his job.
Not sure if this is where the problems started, Artie used to joke about his drug-adlled years on "MAD TV".
Anyway, I always found Artie a really funny guy, hope he gets better and takes care of himself. Whether he goes back to Stern or not. He's too talented a guy.



Drew
 
Artie stabbed himself in a heroin-induced frenzy. I truly
believe he was trying to kill himself. Otherwise he could've
pulled what he's always done in the past, which is to OD.
Even so, this was his most serious attempt so far, and I
don't think he'll be back on the Stern show.
 
Is anyone REALLY shocked?

I love Artie Lange, he's hilarious.

True he has a great job which he SHOULD love, but he's also a drug addicted fat pig (He openly admits it!)

It's either a cry for attention and/or another one of his nervous breakdowns.

The man needs help. Everyone should have seen this coming.

I wish him well.
 
ViperGTS said:
It's a cry for attention, that's all. Anyone with an IQ of more than 50 (80 is functionally retarded, btw) knows how to kill themselves properly - so anybody who "fails" at killing themselves is an attention-seeking pussy who, for one reason or another, isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life.

So there.
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I agree with purrbast, that's a horrible thing to say, and I shall add stupid. Not everyone that attempts suicide does it because it's a cry for attention. you could screw up when trying to kill yourself. You could cut your wrist and someone might find you before you bleed out. You might not have the best tools to kill yourself so you have to improvise and it might not work as well as you think. I know people that have tried to kill themselves and failed, it's much more than a cry for attentions. What's a cry for attention is when you say you're going to do it and then you never do. That's when you want someone to pay attention to you. Not when you actually try to do it. And so I think you're not only a jackass but you're also an idiot.

And someone said he was high or something. I'm sure it's not easy to stab yourself so you die while you're high.
 
That's fine. You guys are entitled to your opinions about my opinion. But I still stand by my original post - a failed suicide attempt simply means they were looking for attention. Now that I think about it, I will add something else - it may also mean that they simply are ignorant and do not know how to properly off themselves. Cutting wrists, OD attempts...things like this are easy to screw up if you lack proper knowledge of the human body.

I'm not just throwing out a baseless opinion - I have...certain personal experiences that I will not go into detail about - these are how I formed my opinion of this matter. The fact that he was allegedly on heroin at the time doesn't help, of course, since it changed his state of mind. That being the case, it may well have been a legitimate suicide attempt and he was just too stoned to do it right.

Purr, Skip, mt, and others - I apologize if my opinion offends you.
 
ViperGTS said:
It's a cry for attention, that's all. Anyone with an IQ of more than 50 (80 is functionally retarded, btw) knows how to kill themselves properly - so anybody who "fails" at killing themselves is an attention-seeking pussy who, for one reason or another, isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life.

So there.
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I couldn't disagree more. Being that I lost two people that I loved dearly this year to suicide, one just the day after Christmas and I'm having a really hard time trying to deal with that. The first one blew her head off with a shotgun at a park after calling the police to come and find her and leaving her driver's license out on the picnic table so she could be identified because she knew that her head wasn't going to be attached so I guess she "won," because she didn't fail at killing herself the first time? The second one had problems with drugs just like Artie did and did have a few "attempts" with OD'ing until she finally hung herself the day after Christmas. Maybe she was high, maybe she wasn't but I did know her enough that if she was thinking "straight," she would have never hung herself at her house where she and her mother lived, knowing full well her mother would be the one to find her. She adored and loved her mom. So what does this tell me? She was suffering and hurting more than I could have ever known. Perhaps Artie was maybe in that frame of mind too? Who knows? Whether or not someone even "attempts" suicide or actually goes through with the act, these people need compassion in my opinion. A person that even attempts suicide is not ok. I've never had a problem with drug addiction but I can certainly understand why someone could go that route after losing my mom. The pain is so bad that anything that could make you "forget" it for a while seems worth considering. While I chose to not go that route, not everyone can do that. Not everyone has the support of great family and friends to surround themselves with when dealing with hardships or the emotional strength to deal with it on their own. Some people just get lost along the way, despite the desperate attempts from their friends and family to help them.

Neither one of them were attention-seeking pussies. They were great people who unfortunately were battling inner demons far worse than perhaps you and I would have ever known.

Good Luck Artie.......I hope you get well soon.
 
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ViperGTS said:
Purr, Skip, mt, and others - I apologize if my opinion offends you.
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I think the people you are offending also have experience with this matter, which is why they are offended. And to try to be objective about this, I don't think I'd ever call someone who stabbed themselves nine times a pussy. I'd say that's trying awfully hard. And as for "a cry for attention", it may very well be. And the message is usually, "Help me. Please. My emotions and my life are out of control. I don't know who to turn to or what to do anymore. I've lost that feeling of feeling needed and in control of my life. I can't see any other way out."

I've sat and tried thinking of things the other way around. From what I've stewed about, this is what I can discern:

You feel that if he really meant it then he would have done it in a foolproof way that would have ensured he went through with it. Because he didn't, it was to get attention of other people. You feel he could have simply gone to get some help rather than going through the dramatics. You also feel that someone who can't emotionally handle things thrown at them in life is weak, and it your eyes that's a very bad thing to be.

Am I off on what I said/thought? Before we continue any sort of debate I'd like to know exactly where you stand. I drew those conclusions from your other posts.
 
For the record, he was found bleeding out on the floor alone. He's only alive because his mother happened to come over to visit.
 
Skipadeedoodah said:
First of all, we all know so little about his life, that to pass any kind of judgment on whether or not he "should" have tried to kill himself is ridiculous. He could have been on drugs. He could suffer from mental illness. There are a million critical details we have no way of knowing anything about.

Second of all, suicide, attempted suicide, and suicidal thoughts are not something to be taken lightly - EVER. Attention seeking individuals don't often say, "I want some attention today. Let me fake a suicide attempt." Attention seeking behavior is something that builds over time. Perhaps Artie had been exhibiting attention seeking behavior for awhile, and this was just the first thing that made the news. Regardless, attempted suicide is not a "pussy" move, and it certainly does not mean that someone isn't strong enough to deal with the hardships of life. Your hardships, my hardships and the guy around the corner's hardships are all different, as are our abilities to cope. No one's struggles should be minimized, nor should their attempts to deal with those struggles, even if they may be just cries for help. If that is the case, the necessary help should be given rather than the individual be criticized. You never when those cries for help, if they continue to be ignored, will turn into the real thing.

Being suicidal is one of the saddest, loneliest, hardest moments in a person's life. Even if they don't ever make the attempt, to sincerely contemplate suicide, or to feel that you are so trapped that you have no choice but to fake a suicide attempt to get the attention and help that you need, is a sad and serious issue, and not one to be taken lightly or dismissed as "attention-seeking".

I sincerely hope that no one here who has said some of these, in my opinion, totally inappropriate and insensitive, comments - or the people who will say them later on in this thread, ever have to come face to face with any aspect of suicide. That having been said, I do hope that you come to understand the severity of it in any form: thoughts, attempts or actual death.
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I completely agree with this, Skip. I couldn't have said it better myself. I love how people are quick to judge, when they really have no idea.
 
ViperGTS said:
That's fine. You guys are entitled to your opinions about my opinion. But I still stand by my original post - a failed suicide attempt simply means they were looking for attention. Now that I think about it, I will add something else - it may also mean that they simply are ignorant and do not know how to properly off themselves. Cutting wrists, OD attempts...things like this are easy to screw up if you lack proper knowledge of the human body.

I'm not just throwing out a baseless opinion - I have...certain personal experiences that I will not go into detail about - these are how I formed my opinion of this matter. The fact that he was allegedly on heroin at the time doesn't help, of course, since it changed his state of mind. That being the case, it may well have been a legitimate suicide attempt and he was just too stoned to do it right.

Purr, Skip, mt, and others - I apologize if my opinion offends you.
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No dear, a failed suicide attempt means it didn't work. Not that someone is looking for attention. This is something I am all too familiar with.
 
ViperGTS said:
That's fine. You guys are entitled to your opinions about my opinion. But I still stand by my original post - a failed suicide attempt simply means they were looking for attention. Now that I think about it, I will add something else - it may also mean that they simply are ignorant and do not know how to properly off themselves. Cutting wrists, OD attempts...things like this are easy to screw up if you lack proper knowledge of the human body.

I'm not just throwing out a baseless opinion - I have...certain personal experiences that I will not go into detail about - these are how I formed my opinion of this matter. The fact that he was allegedly on heroin at the time doesn't help, of course, since it changed his state of mind. That being the case, it may well have been a legitimate suicide attempt and he was just too stoned to do it right.

Purr, Skip, mt, and others - I apologize if my opinion offends you.
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Having opinions is never wrong. How you state those opinions can alter how seriously people take them, and will definitely make a difference in how they respond.

I agree with your opinion that "failed" suicide attempts are almost exclusively a.) intentionally failed and a cry for help or b.) commited by someone who is misinformed on how likely their chosen method is to actually result in death. That should not make those individuals subjects of mockery and ridicule, and is not 100% accurate. I know a man who attempted to kill himself by shooting himself in the head. His hands were sweaty and he was shaking. He slipped at the last minute and instead of killing himself, shot his face off. It was a nearly foolproof method and a serious attempt.

What I disagree with is that people who attempt suicide are pussies and/or too weak to deal with life's hardships. Those are the offensive parts of your original post.

My opinion is not baseless either. I've dealt with more suicide thoughts/attempts/deaths than I care to think about, both personally and professionally. I understand the feelings of anger and disgust that you can feel towards someone who kills himself. I often think about the people I've lost to suicide, and my emotions range from reminiscent and sad, to angry at the person for being so "selfish." Of course I can see the good aspects of their lives - the reasons they "should" have wanted to live. But evidently, at that final moment, they couldn't see that. That does not mean they are pussies or weak. It means they were lacking the support and coping skills necessary to weather that particular storm.
 
:shrug:

Listen - I'm probably wrong to push my opinions as a general rule of thumb for me to judge others with - all I know is that, if I chose to end my own life because "things got too hard", I'd be a pussy. It means I didn't have the tenacity to fix what was broken, to push through whatever difficulty I was going through. As I said, I have had personal experiences with this particular topic that have helped me form this viewpoint. Obviously, Artie's mental state and my mental state are very different, so I probably shouldn't have lined up my opinion with his actions.

Here's to hoping he gets better and gets his head checked out.
 
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