Stop whinning and do something about it

[kcantankerous]

This is by far the most frustrating thing about my job and I will share it with all of you. Why is it that people would rather wallow around in their self pitty than help themselves. Why is it that people stay in abusive relationships, stay obese even though they hate it, or leach off of others rather than using their own two feet. I'm tired of those that can't get their mindset where it needs to be. People seem to love average with no desire to better themselves and improve their situation. Or they blame it on add, bi polarism, or some other kinda thing a thiroid or something. Why is it that people have to find someone to feel sorry for them. I'll admit I was in one of these catagories before I found out what I wanted to do with my life. Think about Stephen Hawking, Ray Charles, or any other of those that had legitamite excuses but managed to perserver. The problem with America isn't illegal immagrants taking american jobs. It's people not wanting to educate themselves to be worth those jobs. I don't think their's an excuse in the world anyone can use to be mediocre or roll around in self pitty. A jewish man Frankle, I think his name was, was able to thrive after being released from the death camps. I POW last name Stockdale managed to go on living and actually thrive in business after his release from Vietnam prisons. People who've lost their whole families, continue on only to make a difference in other peoples lives. The only difference between them and us is their fingerprint. Other then that everyone from you, me, or oprah needs food to eat and if we are cut we bleed. So why is it that those people are successful and others arn't. Or why some of us are in good physical condition and others arn't. I started this because I realized that an alarming rate of people seem to think they can't change themselves. Some blame it on having kids to young or getting married. All of that is bs, admit that the problem lies with the reflection in the mirror. Face reality, love yourself, and find out what you must do to survive. Although I don't totally agree with charles darwin, I do believe that the strong and weak will never be on the same level. Therefore if you want more outa life take it and stop complaining.

I decided to write this after reading some posts, and listening to many people from where I work.

 

[kcantankerous]

I'd like to add John Walsh (SP) to the list. He turned his grief from his murdered son into a fire that lead to one of the most effective crime fighting methods to date. America's Most Wanted.

 

[Sultrybrunette]

Wow. Its nice to know that your life is so perfect that you can lift people up to your level and try and get them up to your standards with your positive words, regardless of the possible extenuating circumstances in their life. I, for one, personally know how much of a positive influence you can try to be. But don't you think that this post is whining, just like what every other human being does at one point or another? Maybe not everyone is supposed to be as strong as you. Maybe there are extenuating circumstances that have happened as they were growing up or throughout their life which makes it that they are not as strong. Maybe not everyone is supposed to be strong. You gave some wonderful examples of people that has persevered. But do you not think that maybe at some point they might have been weak? That there might have been moments when they complained to someone about their situation but felt helpess to know what to do about it? They are human too and I am sure were weak at one time or another. I understand frustration but for heaven sake, not all of us can live up to your standards. How about trying to be a bit more understanding?

Just my thought.

 

[kcantankerous]

You are right to some degree, and I know everyone grieves or is in a point of desperation and there is a period when one has to fight through it. But even so and we can talk about our circumstances in private but anyone can pick themselves up and move forward. My life isnt perfect and only afew of my goals have been accomplished the others are more lofty but I promise you one thing ever since I decided I control my own destiny I started looking at myself as the real problem and began changing myself. Am I perfect hell no, but I will keep moving because my ultimate goal is to have and fully support a wife and kids so thats what drives me. I know everyones different, but for the most part there are few situations that anyone has been put in that hey hat no control over. Some blame their spouses or kids or whatever, it all comes down to choices. Sure their or some situations out of the individuals control but for the most part a choice of some kind is made. And personally I can't stand the, we're only human comment. We are sinful creatures, and so forth, but just because we're human doesnt mean we cant be fight for something better. Sultry you have valid points and I again will hash those out with you privately if you want, but no matter the situation giving up is not the answer. And you haven't by any stretch but theirs alot that do. But I for one will tell you that I fight each and everyday and my life is not perfect. But I did realize that I need to make good choices to continue heading for my goal. So I gravitate more towards positive ambitious people, and I will not have sex with anyone I can't see myself dealing with for the rest of my life, I dont drink or smoke cause I want to remain healthy. What about those that already made a detour from their ultimate goal. Well they take care of their responsibilities, and if possible continue toward their goal once they clearly defined a path of execution. No it's not simple, basically i'd be a happy camper if everyone in the world, which can't really happen, would get up and do something about a adverse situation. As long as it's legal of course.

And sultry finally got some of the strenght I was lacking from god, my family, myself, who I'm trying to love more each and everyday, and people like yourself who are genuinly kind.

 

[Sultrybrunette]

Knogz, I would be more than happy to discuss this further in private. Its been awhile anyway. Your ideals are commendable and I truly hope you reach all of those goals.

 

[mtlhd]

high standards and goals.

I understand all to well the pressures of high standards and high goals. My goal in life is to be a successful filmmaker. It is near impossible to make it in without doing something great, and I know this. I went to school for film knwoing how hard it is.

I am back in school for that back up degree to join corporate america with...but i am never losing site of the dream. It had me down for a long time, seeing it as the impossible dream, but i reached out, contacted some filmmakers... and low and behold... I was offered a job. I got to be the assistant camera on this www.monocacymovie.com I joined production late so my name doesnt appear on the website but it will in the credits.

i believe there is only help for those willing to help themselves.



-mtlhd

 

[morgandavis]

it is not a matter of failing at life but that people get too self serious and demand more attention because they feel they deserve compensation and get pompous and secretly conceited about it

those who fail the internet do not get my pity

and then it becomes some sort of jaded social political movement

but the truth is feelings shouldn't be turned into political movements, they're just there to be expressed, whether someone should sympathize or empathize is not the matter but other people feel that is the case

to be human is to express your feelings, whether or not they like you for it

and that is why i respect your first post because i'm sure many people will disagree with it and most people don't brave the risk of saying something unfavorable and disagreeable

 

[kcantankerous]

mtlhd that is what Im talking about, perserverance. To have a vision for the future is something that everyone at somepoint should have. I'm excited at the possibilities especially here in America or any free society. Everyone from michael Dell to Bill Gates, to any other person even Gandi had to fight. Abraham Lincoln, failed at many difference persuits before he became president of the United States. This Thread is to celebrate what we can achieve if we love ourselves, fight for and achieve our individual goals. No matter if its monotary, relationshipwise, political, or whatever. It all lies with the ambition and the drive and the passion that an individual moves with. As humans we've already are winning at life because we are living, the next is to create and conquer the goals we invision. I sound like a rah rah rose tinted classes kind of guy, but look at the facts and you'll see that people who think positive with respect to their present reality live happy and healthy lives.

 

[Nige]

Wow. Its nice to know that your life is so perfect that you can lift people up to your level and try and get them up to your standards with your positive words, regardless of the possible extenuating circumstances in their life. I, for one, personally know how much of a positive influence you can try to be. But don't you think that this post is whining, just like what every other human being does at one point or another? Maybe not everyone is supposed to be as strong as you. Maybe there are extenuating circumstances that have happened as they were growing up or throughout their life which makes it that they are not as strong. Maybe not everyone is supposed to be strong. You gave some wonderful examples of people that has persevered. But do you not think that maybe at some point they might have been weak? That there might have been moments when they complained to someone about their situation but felt helpess to know what to do about it? They are human too and I am sure were weak at one time or another. I understand frustration but for heaven sake, not all of us can live up to your standards. How about trying to be a bit more understanding?

Just my thought.

Well said Sultry, I saw this post earleir and wanted to reply but was not sure how to phrase my response.

Knogz: I fully appreciate what you are saying, but every human being is different. We all have our strengths and weaknesses. It does sound like you are a very strong minded person. Good luck with what ever you do, but please don't expect everyone to think and act like you.

 

[MrMacphisto]

I'm gonna go out on a limb on this one, but my theory is this... Some people literally love to complain. They may look angry or sad, but they actually enjoy the experience on an inner level. You can think of it as a sort of emotional masochism. Some people are most comfortable when they are complaining: how else do you explain why some people that are obviously inflammatory towards each other still get married?

Everyday, I witness the angst and hilarity of middle-aged men getting in arguments with wives that they obviously have a lot of experience yelling at. It's almost as if arguing is their way of showing affection to their loved ones. I'm also reminded of how this applies to the often antagonistic relations between parents and children.

Then, there's that old saying that a thin line separates love and hate. Maybe a lot of people have neurological chemistries that promote antagonism and emotional dependency simultaneously. This combination can lead to endless conflicts, but maybe the frequency of these conflicts creates a comfort zone where the people involved prefer to maintain these conflicts.

Most humans fear the unknown and unfamiliar, and by the time they reach adulthood, they've firmly established what they are comfortable with and what they avoid if at all possible. As adaptable as our species can be, the irony of this ability is that it is usually motivated by our innate desire to resist change. Instead of changing ourselves, we change our environments.

How all of this applies to the "whining" problem is that many of these people would rather remain in their situation than develop the willpower to better themselves. Then again, the people we read about that are successful aren't necessarily any better.... Many people are born into fame and fortune (Paris Hilton), and so the success they have gained was not nearly as difficult to obtain as it would be for most people. If Bill Gates didn't have a trust fund to begin Microsoft with, he could've ended up as some middle-management IT guy.

Other people are most comfortable with constant change and true personal evolution. These people are lucky in that they have enough drive to make their lives better. I would assume someone like Stephen Hawking or Ray Charles had so much drive to excel at their talents that they would still become geniuses at their fields, even if they didn't have such major obstacles to deal with. Then again, adversity builds character, and it can also create a strong drive within people....

 

[MrMacphisto]

Maybe not everyone is supposed to be strong.

Sultry, this is a good point. I would tend to agree with Nietzsche's philosophy of the Ubermensch vs. the Untermensch. Basically, Nietzsche said that most people are meant to be followers, and that only a strong few could lead. After all, if all of us desired to be leaders, there would be no such thing as society: we'd all be anarchists without an innate desire for community.

What I'm saying is that the weaker people are needed as followers of the stronger people. Without the weaker people, the strong would be a lot less strong. Yet, there is something to be said for those who loyally follow...

And just as there are people that are meant to be winners in life, there are total losers as well. Thankfully, the losers tend to off themselves without affecting much of the rest of society....

 

[kis123]

Although I agree with some of your points, your rant comes off pretty harsh. Not everyone is like you and many aren't ready to make the type of changes you feel are appropriate in life. Some people (like myself) got a really late start. When you're not raised with the appropriate support or value system, it's gonna take you longer to get with the program. You first have to realize that there's a program that you need to get on in the first place.

I was a late bloomer of sorts and I had an epithany about six years ago. I realized that I didn't have to go the same direction as the majority of my family members. I didn't have to live in a miserable marriage beacuse I was afraid of being alone. I get lonely sometimes, but wouldn't trade my peace and sanity for the entire world!

Yes, I'm "obese" as you call it! I come from generations upon generations of obesity. Hasn't stopped me from getting the men and my two kids weren't born in a test tube if you know what I mean!! However, many of us are genetically predisposed to having difficulty losing weight. I gain it 5 times as fast as I can lose it. I've lost 40 lbs but it's been a long and difficult struggle at best. I guess I don't have the "suck it up and forge ahead" attitude you obviously possess.

I also don't blame my problems on others either. Looking in that mirror has changed my life. I'm not self-actualized, but I'm a helluva lot better than I used to be.

Oh, I forgot something.........

People who are mentally ill aren't making excuses. It's called a chemical inbalance. If my autistic son could be like you, he would be. But alas, he's stuck playing the hand life dealt him. I can respect your need to vent, but maybe a better choice of words would be in order.

 

[kis123]

And just as there are people that are meant to be winners in life, there are total losers as well. Thankfully, the losers tend to off themselves without affecting much of the rest of society....

I was with you until you got right about here.......... 😱

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

As human beings, we have a great capacity for compassion and understanding; we cannot change the world, but each of us can make it better for a small number of others. If we as a people are to survive, those are the qualities we must draw on.

We are not a society of equals, and many people are simply not as lucky, or as smart, or as talented, or as able to get a good education, or as free from responsibility, or as healthy, or as ambitious, or as good looking, or as mentally stable, or as wealthy, or as able to partake in a privileged life as others. Have any of you been in the urine-filled tenaments here in New York, where generation after generation knows only hopelessness? I have. In both my regular job and my volunteer work, I have seen and heard things I will never forget but wish I could.

There are homeless people here on the streets of New York, and I call them my equals. Many were born into abusive families or born with mental illnesses that made it impossible for them to get ahead. How can you get a proper education when there is not enough food in your belly or you are scared that daddy is going to rape you?

Still others had everything life could offer on silver spoons but fell on hard times and were just too overwhelmed to pull themselves up; those very same people, in different life circumstances, could have been some of our country's greatest successes.

I make no bones about being an atheist, but there is much I take from my own Christian background and other religions to guide me through life. Religion represents our hopes and aspirations, set in the form of celestial journeys and not unlike the moral but secular folktales we tell children. Life is cruel and vicious, and we use spiritual beliefs to remind ourselves that anything we have is more fortune than personal skill. I was born into a middle class family in New York, and I have had many opportunities in my life. I could have been born into a starving family in another country, and what would my intelligence and skill have amounted to there unless I was one of the lucky few?

Many can overcome the greatest difficulties and come out far ahead; I admire their gumption.

Not everyone can. Who are we to judge and condemn?

Compassion.

 

[Iwon'tgrowup]

Go For The Laugh, I don't always agree with what you say here, but don't you dare stop saying it. I crave cogent thought turned into good writing. I live in an urban area, too, and can't line up right beside you . . . but you surely make me think.

I'm curious, too . . . an atheist is an overt disbeliever . . . how much of your atheism has to do with the Church (instead of God)? I'm not wandering off-topic, now. With respect to Knogz' original thought (which pretty much amounts to get up and do something), the Church could have had a very positive influence on the downtrodden and the "loser" (MacPhisto's word choice). But now I believe the Church has become nearly irrelevant. GFTL, I believe I read you'd been "thrown out" of your congregation. I'm sure that event must have held some theological implications?

I don't think I've seen any mention of supernatural help yet, but some of the people referred to in this thread; i.e., Lincoln and Gandhi certainly deferred to and credited God for help with their own overwhelming problems. And there's always this:

Suffering produces endurance, endurance produces character, character produces hope, and hope never disappoints us . . .

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Thank you, Iwon'tgrowup.

The long story of my attempts at various forms of Christianity, both mainstream and Fundamentalist, is not something I wish to write about here. Indeed, I promised myself I would stay away from mainstream threads on this board, as my time here is limited and I prefer to learn about a fetish I am only just beginning to understand. However, sometimes I weaken and post as I have in this thread.

I do have to be careful: Certain topics rile me to no end, and if I started on politics, for example, you would see a much more vicious, intolerant GoForTheLaugh. That has no place here, and I really would not be able to control myself.

The other point: I am spiritual but not religious. This may sound weird, I realize, but standing in the rain and getting wet all over is for me a spiritual experience. (I have this fetish, my only one, I believe, because I am very sensually-oriented.) My god, if you will, is nature and the beauty of the universe, not a being who exists only in others' minds. Please let me stress that I am voicing an opinion only; people need not agree with me. They can wholly agree, wholly disagree, or agree with some things I say and disagree with others.

I take the agnostic stand that there may or may not be a god or many gods, but that no one will ever be able to prove it to me either way. My disbelief is my personal opinion, and I do not say I am right or wrong. Instead, I say that I have rejected the evil Judeo-Christian God with whom I was raised but hold onto certain spiritual principles. I create my own spirituality, if you will.

Many people close to me, both straight and gay, are believers, and I have learned to be tolerant of what they believe. After all, my atheists friends and I seek the same tolerance in a society that snarls at us.

Religion can indeed be a positive force in the lives of the downtrodden, and I am sure some people have used it to find the will to keep living. Unfortunately, too many people, pretending to help the downtrodden under the mask of religion, have agendas for which they hope to use the downtrodden and anyone else they can swing over to their mindset.

 

[kcantankerous]

please dont turn this into another religious discussion

I am talking about the people who arn't happy but would rather stay unhappy then help themselves out of it. I think of some of the homeless people I see everyday to and from work, and I think of immigrants who learn our language and thrive in the United States. If your happy with yourself and how things are going my rant isnt directed toward you. However, if you are sad or even miserable with your circumstances than the thread is directed specifically at you. I advise any of you who think your doomed or fell like unlucky to take a trip to a local hospital with people with disabilites. The majority face reality and keep on living, and find some type of inner peace. Again this thread is meant for people who seem to think that theirs no hope for a better tomarrow. Honestly if you can sit their and make excuses for "weak" than maybe that is the problem right there. I have no better privileges than most of you so I wouldn't go into bloodline or anything like that. I have seen all types of people strive and succeed with happier lives, and I've seen many who seem content with being unhappy. Again this thread is for those that blame misfortunes, on good, their up bringing, their influences, whatever. And continue to whallo in self pitty. Plus you must admit if people did think like a cautious optimist than they would be happier anyways.

 

[kis123]

Some things I see going on knogz

-If a person is getting through life based on spiritual/religious decisions, what's wrong with that? A lot of people beat up religion, but along with the lengthy list of atrocities and problems, it's brought a lot of people peace and the ability to get to the next level in their lives. Many ex-addicts, criminals, and plain old "losers" have turned their lives around by worshipping the God of their choosing. It keeps me going and I wouldn't be here if it weren't for the existence of a loving God who cares enough aboout me to not let me flush my life in the toilet! I'm not trying to turn this into a religious thread, but some of us out here cannot dismiss God as a driving force in a positive direction of our lives. I no longer subscribe to organized religion, but do believe that God exists and has always been in my life, no matter how rough it's gotten at times.

-You initial post included the term "bi-polar". That is a legitimate mental disorder, which is why it caught my attention. My son is autistic (another mental disorder) and he cannot help his circumstances at all! The bi-polarism can be balanced with proper medication and most will live normal lives. The responsibility factor kicks in when people refuse to manage their health and not take their meds. They proceed to unleash their issues on society and that's not right. My son hates taking meds, but they keep him on an even keel and allow him the freedoms he's learned to love in his life. Without meds, he becomes moody and non-functional. So he's responsible for managing his health and keeping the freedom to be an adult in society (to the best of his ability).

-I give no excuses for the "obesity" issues-just explanations why it's taking a lot longer to get this weight off than I even thought. I'll stay in the battle because I want to get healthier. I'll never be a size 2, but I can be smaller than I am! But I don't allow it to be a hinderance in my life either. I live pretty much on my own terms and if a man pre-judges me on the outside and never gets to know the woman inside, he can assume it to be his loss and go pound salt! The woman in the mirror is a work in progress and has a long way to go, but she's a lot further ahead than she used to be!

As I said before, I understand the rant, just wasn't too crazy about some of the word choices.

***kis gets off soapbox and gives the thread to someone else for a change**

 

[kcantankerous]

I'm all over the place but there is a point to this

Kis I respect you and your opinions on this and many other manners. If you are happy with your size then all means stay that way. People will love you know matter what. As far as the trouble with getting it off, maybe you should consult a professional. I am in that line of work but their is only so much I could do over the internet. Start but increasing the frequency of your meals but decrease portion sizes. As far as your son, their are mental disorders that were caused by various methods. The bi polar comment was made because one of my clients is bi polar, and I'm really proud that she doesn't use that as a crutch. Another of my clients has cemotherapy every other week, another was on meds for depression. I was on meds for depression aswell, if I wasn't for some intervention I would have probably killed myself 2 years ago.

(As a side) I dont want this to be the focal point of the thread but I am a proud christian but I am not of denomination. I am not slamming religion, however I don't like force feeding it to others. The only reason I bring it up is when people blame it rather than find out the true causes.

I just made this thread because it seems that alot of depression is based on the theory that one can not change themselves or their surroundings even though they what to. By the way its a fact that at least 50% of the people who are hospitalized for insanity have no actual mental disability. I know sometimes I talk as though their is no grey, but honestly if someone sees it as they don't think they can be important, or any happier , or continuosly unlucky, than that person has a defeatist attidute and is content with settling rather than getting what they feel they deserve.

I chatted earlier about the concept of marrige earlier in another thread and it was alarming at how many individuals seemed to be so cinical about it. Do some of you truely believe that it's impossible to change. It's true that you can't easily change someone else but you may aswell start with yourself if your not happy with the current situation.

 

[isabeau]

want to say something

i'm not sure if this is what you all are talking about but here goes. in the midst of one of my mom's many bouts with depression, i sought out a psychologist to try to find out how to get her into a hospital for help. in the sessions i had with him, however, he tried to say i was the one who needed help and tried to blame everyone but me for the way i was. which at that time was very unhappy. he wanted to place the blame on mom, my husband , anyone but me. when he asked me to bring david in , i quit. i never believe in blaming circumstances or people for my own unhappiness. if i am unhappy, only i can change that. i am now a very happy person, however this took moms death for it to happen. i have had many tragedies occur in my life, such as the loss of three babies and my dad dying of cancer but would never even think of blaming anyone but myself for my feelings of depression or unhappiness when those occurred. i am not sure if this was appropriate and whenever i do get down, i look at the pictures plastered on my refrigerator of the children of st judes hospital with cancer, and realize how truly lucky i am.

isabeau

 

[GoForTheLaugh]

Sorry, knogz. I wasn't trying to hijack the thread. Rather, I stated my view on the subject and then answered a question about my religious beliefs. If I post in this thread again, I promise to stay on the subject. 🙂

 

[morgandavis]

religion religion i want to ignore everything everyone says and talk about my religion religion religion

 

[ViperGTS]

((WARNING! Ridiculously long post ahead. If you don't care about my ranting or whatnot, just skip to the next post.))

Ok....it's time for me to let this all out. It's something I've been trying to keep in one spot forever, and it's been starting to leak out lately, in the form of anger, towards the people I love the most.

My mother, now almost 50, has been without a job for almost 20 years. For the majority of that time, she'd been supporting herself (and me, while I was young, and still under her custody) on food stamps and governmental hand outs. For the entire time I lived with her, I didn't see anything wrong with that.

Ahh, the innocence of youth.

Now that I have developed, physically, mentally, psychologically, I see how wrong she's been all these years. For as long as I can remember, all she ever did was complain about her aches and pains, and how disabled she was. For nearly two decades she's been putting on a show for the government, scouring off of taxpayer's money and living on handouts for those who are disabled. After convincing several agencies that she has numerous disabilities (the list goes on and on) and complaining about how her shoulder, back, hips, knees, ankles, wrists, and so on hurt so much, I just got sick and tired of it.

Not to mention, all my life, she made me think I was sick, when I wasn't. I was hospitalized for mental disabilities, when really, all I was doing was emulating the only parent I'd ever had (I grew up without a father, he left when I was but a wee boy).

When I was sixteen, I realized that the only way to get out from her grasp was to actually act up worse than she could handle. After several intentional outbursts, she finally gave up on me. My grandparents assumed custody since I was still a minor and I have been living with them ever since.

I'm now nineteen, and over the past three years I've developed a deeper understanding of what's happened. She does just what this topic's title references: whine, bitch, and moan. He entire life has been spent crying and complaining about how much she hurts, how little she can do about it, and how few dollars she has to support herself with, being that the welfare checks are so small. She does not pay rent, she does not pay any of her bills with the exception of telephone, vehicle, and insurance for said vehicle. She always complains about how much pain she is in, and how she cannot lose weight, yet every week, like clockwork, she dumps $21 or more into the bowling league that she has been a part of for about the same amount of time she's been so-called "disabled."

She always says, "oh, it's so hard to get a job in todays world without a computer!" To which my reaction is (and yes, I said this to her verbatim once) "I'M A FUCKING COMPUTER GEEK! I train for nothing but Microsoft certifications, I run a small business for fixing computers, I work at a God-damned computer store for Christ's sakes, I'll get you a computer and teach you how to use it!" And do you know what she says, every time? "No, I hate computers, one day they're going to take over the world and kill us all!" Needless to say, I have long since stopped feeling pity for her. She's not disabled. She's just fucking lazy. Stop bitching about life and do something about it, or just quit playing the game.

She's my mother, and by that fact alone, I will always love her. But nowhere does it say that I have to like her. In fact, I hate her. She's nothing but a burden on this family.

And I'm not done yet. I mentioned where I work. Most of my co-workers (including the eccentric, but quite amusing and friendly HOLLYWOODBROTHER) are quite cool, but there is one that I have come to detest. She was talking to me the other day, and the conversation went something like this. (We'll call her Michelle, for the sake of anonymity.)

Michelle: "Hey Mark, can you lend me some money?"
Me: "Ask your parents, everyone knows they give you money."
Michelle: "But they only pay for my bills and whatnot...I don't have any leisure money."

Now, I didn't even bother to ask her where her money goes from her job. At this point, I was so disgusted, I kicked her out of my department. Who the fuck does she think she is? I break my ass to pay my own bills, and I have done so since I was sixteen...so where does she think she gets off asking me for my hard-earned money when she's getting a free ride ftom the rest of the world? Get a grip on reality, you selfish bitch, and learn what the value of the dollar really is.

Whew. Sorry for the long post, I've been needing to get that off my chest.

 

[Krokus]

Sometimes things aren't that simple. Some people deal with things differently, things affect each of us differently. I agree that nobody should give up...try your best to find what works, find your comfort zone, and stick to it.

 

[RobAce]

My thoughts

Here I go again all, boy I go from not posting at all, to posting to much maybe. But let me say this, those of you who might have read my thread and understand my situation will know what Im talking about those that dont look for the thread "TMF Vet" is the last 2 words of it started by me. Now I explained my condition and I will say that Im in no way wanting sympathy, handouts, or do I EVER want to give up. I like most people have had a hard life, and Im sure if I was homeless. jobless, or without a family there would be those out there to say, "Awwww, its too bad how life treated him, no wonder he's like that." But you know what I agree with the orginator of this thread, and I hope I get his basic point which I believe is "Its not what life gives you, its what you give to your life." Basic, simple, not cruel, not mean, just truth. I will never give up trying to better myself and fighting for everything I can. Its not that I cant do things I used to, its that I do not do them as easily as I used to. Ill never give up and no one else ever should. I still now find ways to use what skills I have to support my family until I recieve some help. Help is not a bad thing as long as you dont "EXPECT" it. And as long as you USE the help to get better, and not ABUSE the help so you always need it. With that being said I hope you all are well and lets go out and have a little fun. Ill be the one in the corner with the padded foot stocks and an assortment of feathers, ladies only please and take a number!

Thats just my dollar and 2 cents worth.