Terrell owens

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Two games that T.O. doesn't mean he didn't carry them. He played in 14 other games and WAS THERE ENTIRE OFFENSE. T.O. is the reason McNabb had the increased numbers he did. T.O. is the reason the Eagles offensive production and rankings went into the top 10 and top 5. T.O. came and they started out undeafeated for a while. Got the best record they will ever get. He was brought in because they knew what he could do and he did it. Without T.O. they didnt get to the Superbowl. If T.O. hadn't played in the Superbowl he got them to, the Patroits would have killed the Eagles. Other players contributed but T.O. was the Michael Jordan of the 2004 Philadelphia Eagles.

How do you carry a team to the Super Bowl if you DO NOT play in the playoffs??? How is this possible??? Did he make catches in the NFC Championship game to guide them to the Super Bowl??? Did I miss something???

 

[primetime]

tickle fiend, i know you are excited about T.O. being a Cowboy, but wake up and smell the coffee or hot chocolate or smelling salts or whatever. did it ever cross your mind to wonder why so many people dislike T.O.? like you mentioned, you have Cowboy fans who do not want him on the team. WHY is that?

Philly is NOT the first place Owens made an ass out of himself. he did it in SF. his career started there. he made plays there. remember the Sharpie incident? he was wearing a 49ers uniform. now, ever wonder why Owens is no longer a 49er?

let's go over this man's history. he insinuated that a former teammate of his is "gay" (Jeff Garcia). he was disciplined by Mariucci and the 49er organization for "conduct detrimental to the team". the 49ers were going to send him to Baltimore, but Owens cries like a bitch and gets the NFL to rescind the trade, pissing off the Ravens. he gets to Philly, behaves for a while, but what happened?

by the way, please pay attention to reality. the Philly Eagles made it to THREE STRAIGHT NFC title games BEFORE Owens got there. Owens is NOT the reason why the Eagles got to the SuperBowl. why? HE DIDNT FREAKIN PLAY!!! in other words, the Eagles made it to FOUR straight NFC title games and played ALL FOUR WITHOUT OWENS, so HOW did Owens get the Eagles to the SuperBowl? explain that please.

now, before he got to Philly, he loved McNabb. but when they lost, all of the sudden, Owens starts to rip McNabb. just like he did Garcia. he then gets in conflicts with Eagles management, just like he did with the 49ers. do you notice a pattern?

you say he sounds sincere? OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO SOUND SINCERE!!! he is trying to play football again. in fact, he will behave himself and people like you are going to say "see, i told you so", but what happens when the Cowboys start losing and he starts yelling at his QB because he isnt getting the ball? then you will see Owens true nature surface again.

as for Keyshawn Johnson, man, you must like the arrogant players. Keyshawn opens his mouth in New York, leaves, opens his mouth in Tampa, they cut him, then in Dallas he gets gets punished there as well. do you notice a pattern?

of course you want Owens to do well because he plays for your team. but, he played for my team and i'm glad he is gone. no one will dispute his talent, but the man is a cancer. it is only a matter of time before it happens in Dallas.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

tickle fiend, i know you are excited about T.O. being a Cowboy, but wake up and smell the coffee or hot chocolate or smelling salts or whatever. did it ever cross your mind to wonder why so many people dislike T.O.? like you mentioned, you have Cowboy fans who do not want him on the team. WHY is that?

Philly is NOT the first place Owens made an ass out of himself. he did it in SF. his career started there. he made plays there. remember the Sharpie incident? he was wearing a 49ers uniform. now, ever wonder why Owens is no longer a 49er?

let's go over this man's history. he insinuated that a former teammate of his is "gay" (Jeff Garcia). he was disciplined by Mariucci and the 49er organization for "conduct detrimental to the team". the 49ers were going to send him to Baltimore, but Owens cries like a bitch and gets the NFL to rescind the trade, pissing off the Ravens. he gets to Philly, behaves for a while, but what happened?

by the way, please pay attention to reality. the Philly Eagles made it to THREE STRAIGHT NFC title games BEFORE Owens got there. Owens is NOT the reason why the Eagles got to the SuperBowl. why? HE DIDNT FREAKIN PLAY!!! in other words, the Eagles made it to FOUR straight NFC title games and played ALL FOUR WITHOUT OWENS, so HOW did Owens get the Eagles to the SuperBowl? explain that please.

now, before he got to Philly, he loved McNabb. but when they lost, all of the sudden, Owens starts to rip McNabb. just like he did Garcia. he then gets in conflicts with Eagles management, just like he did with the 49ers. do you notice a pattern?

you say he sounds sincere? OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO SOUND SINCERE!!! he is trying to play football again. in fact, he will behave himself and people like you are going to say "see, i told you so", but what happens when the Cowboys start losing and he starts yelling at his QB because he isnt getting the ball? then you will see Owens true nature surface again.

as for Keyshawn Johnson, man, you must like the arrogant players. Keyshawn opens his mouth in New York, leaves, opens his mouth in Tampa, they cut him, then in Dallas he gets gets punished there as well. do you notice a pattern?

of course you want Owens to do well because he plays for your team. but, he played for my team and i'm glad he is gone. no one will dispute his talent, but the man is a cancer. it is only a matter of time before it happens in Dallas.

Primetime, I am so glad we are working on the same side of the fence with this one. So well stated and documented. Who can argue with logic??? I guess only time will tell. But you and I know Crybaby Owens will resurface himself. It is only a matter of time. 🙄

 

[Tickle Fiend]

tickle fiend, i know you are excited about T.O. being a Cowboy, but wake up and smell the coffee or hot chocolate or smelling salts or whatever. did it ever cross your mind to wonder why so many people dislike T.O.? like you mentioned, you have Cowboy fans who do not want him on the team. WHY is that?

Philly is NOT the first place Owens made an ass out of himself. he did it in SF. his career started there. he made plays there. remember the Sharpie incident? he was wearing a 49ers uniform. now, ever wonder why Owens is no longer a 49er?

let's go over this man's history. he insinuated that a former teammate of his is "gay" (Jeff Garcia). he was disciplined by Mariucci and the 49er organization for "conduct detrimental to the team". the 49ers were going to send him to Baltimore, but Owens cries like a bitch and gets the NFL to rescind the trade, pissing off the Ravens. he gets to Philly, behaves for a while, but what happened?

by the way, please pay attention to reality. the Philly Eagles made it to THREE STRAIGHT NFC title games BEFORE Owens got there. Owens is NOT the reason why the Eagles got to the SuperBowl. why? HE DIDNT FREAKIN PLAY!!! in other words, the Eagles made it to FOUR straight NFC title games and played ALL FOUR WITHOUT OWENS, so HOW did Owens get the Eagles to the SuperBowl? explain that please.

now, before he got to Philly, he loved McNabb. but when they lost, all of the sudden, Owens starts to rip McNabb. just like he did Garcia. he then gets in conflicts with Eagles management, just like he did with the 49ers. do you notice a pattern?

you say he sounds sincere? OF COURSE HE IS GOING TO SOUND SINCERE!!! he is trying to play football again. in fact, he will behave himself and people like you are going to say "see, i told you so", but what happens when the Cowboys start losing and he starts yelling at his QB because he isnt getting the ball? then you will see Owens true nature surface again.

as for Keyshawn Johnson, man, you must like the arrogant players. Keyshawn opens his mouth in New York, leaves, opens his mouth in Tampa, they cut him, then in Dallas he gets gets punished there as well. do you notice a pattern?

of course you want Owens to do well because he plays for your team. but, he played for my team and i'm glad he is gone. no one will dispute his talent, but the man is a cancer. it is only a matter of time before it happens in Dallas.

I don't care what happened in the past. This aint Philly or San Fran. He'll do fine, finish his career in Big D and hopefully win a ring or two. As for the Eagles, when they got to the first three NFC Championships they lost. They year T.O. comes they win? Coincidence? No. I don't care if he played or not. I guess that season they skipped the regular season and went straight to the playoffs. Without T.O. the Eagles had no chance to win the Super Bowl. I wish he didn't play in that game so you could see how much he was to that team. Now they have no WR and will have a hell of a fight to win the NFC East, which won't happen. Stupid of them to give up T.O. for nothing and I hope they pay big time for it. And I guess if "people like me", since you know me so well, will say "I told you so" then I guess people like you and your other buddy will be the ones saying the same for any little incident. People like you will be waiting for any excuse to prove T.O. is just the person you said. People change, people grown and T.O. has said he has learned his mistakes. Now we have to wait and see what happens.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Primetime, I am so glad we are working on the same side of the fence with this one. So well stated and documented. Who can argue with logic??? I guess only time will tell. But you and I know Crybaby Owens will resurface himself. It is only a matter of time. 🙄

Just get married already

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Just get married already

That was uncalled for.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

I don't care what happened in the past. This aint Philly or San Fran. He'll do fine, finish his career in Big D and hopefully win a ring or two. As for the Eagles, when they got to the first three NFC Championships they lost. They year T.O. comes they win? Coincidence? No. I don't care if he played or not. I guess that season they skipped the regular season and went straight to the playoffs. Without T.O. the Eagles had no chance to win the Super Bowl. I wish he didn't play in that game so you could see how much he was to that team. Now they have no WR and will have a hell of a fight to win the NFC East, which won't happen. Stupid of them to give up T.O. for nothing and I hope they pay big time for it. And I guess if "people like me", since you know me so well, will say "I told you so" then I guess people like you and your other buddy will be the ones saying the same for any little incident. People like you will be waiting for any excuse to prove T.O. is just the person you said. People change, people grown and T.O. has said he has learned his mistakes. Now we have to wait and see what happens.

What would change him??? Does a leopard change his spots??? He is a first class jerk and judging from your comment after this post, you are not far behind that. I was beginning to like you and give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess my first impression was right.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

What would change him??? Does a leopard change his spots??? He is a first class jerk and judging from your comment after this post, you are not far behind that. I was beginning to like you and give you the benefit of the doubt. I guess my first impression was right.

You judge people you don't know to much. One comment turns you off? Calm down, relax.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You judge people you don't know to much. One comment turns you off? Calm down, relax.

Let me tell you hat for 20 years, I have been a manager. I hire people I have NEVER met before based on a ten minute or less interview. Since, I don't like to fire people I have developed a certain skill in regards to people. I know when they are BS artists and I know when they are okay people. It is a VERY useful skill. It is also how I survive out here. I know who to talk to and who to stay away from. Again, it is a skill or instinct I have developed. When I see Terrell Owens and I listen to his words and watch how he talks into a camera ( or doesn't ) I know who he is. Probably better than most. He will not cause you guys to many problems in 2006. I would enjoy the year though. He is not a nice guy. He accuses people of things and blames everyone for losing instead of going with the matra we win as a team and lose as a team. When you have a guy who points fingers at other people that is a problem. All you have to do is watch the signs. Your little cheap shot is something that TO would do. So if you want me to calm down you will delete that post. Then I will calm down.

 

[primetime]

tickle fiend, listen to yourself. OF COURSE you dont care about what happened in the past because Terrell Owens plays for YOUR favorite team. if Owens went to, oh let's say, the Redskins, you wouldnt give a rat's ass about Owens. now that he is wearing a big Dallas star on his helmet, now you are going to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

guess what? Philly fans were saying the same damn thing when he showed up in Philly. they "didnt care" about his troubles in SF and he and McNabb are good buddies, unlike him and Jeff Garcia. you must be 4 years old or something to not remember the ruckus he caused in SF. besides being a nuisance, he wanted out of SF because he wanted more money. he gets to Philly, has a good year, but after being there for 1 YEAR, he wanted a new contract. he becomes a nuisance again and lo and behold, ANOTHER team let's him go.

the sad thing is, Philly was a winning organization and he screwed that up. Owens fans point out that SF was going to go belly up, that's why he wanted out. but what about Philly?

you do realize you make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE when you said the Eagles never make the SuperBowl without Owens. you said their regular season proves that. again, you must be like 4 years old or something. in the three previous NFC title games before Owens, Philly had homefield advantage, which means their REGULAR SEASONS were GREAT. there was no real difference in records before Owens and when Owens was there. all he did was bring a little more excitement. but he didnt PLAY in the NFC title game. football is the ultimate team game. if you do not play, you will not be considered "carrying the team". how can you? that's like saying the Chicago Bulls making the NBA finals and Jordan didnt play at all in the Eastern Conference Finals, but Michael got them there. Owens didnt throw a pass, block a man, catch a pass, tackle, kick, run, punt, score a TD, intercept a pass, force a fumble, recover a fumble, get a sack, record a safety, blitz, run back in a zone, or call plays, ONE TIME in the NFC title game over the Falcons. the EAGLES got to the SuperBowl WITHOUT Owens. but of course, you cant see it.

in 2006, Owens is going to "play nice", but when trouble sets in, like losing, or he isnt getting the ball, then you will see Owens' nature come out. wait and see.

wait a second, arent you a Blazers fan? now i understand why you like athletes with "social problems". yeah, the Jailblazers were fun to watch huh?

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Let me tell you hat for 20 years, I have been a manager. I hire people I have NEVER met before based on a ten minute or less interview. Since, I don't like to fire people I have developed a certain skill in regards to people. I know when they are BS artists and I know when they are okay people. It is a VERY useful skill. It is also how I survive out here. I know who to talk to and who to stay away from. Again, it is a skill or instinct I have developed. When I see Terrell Owens and I listen to his words and watch how he talks into a camera ( or doesn't ) I know who he is. Probably better than most. He will not cause you guys to many problems in 2006. I would enjoy the year though. He is not a nice guy. He accuses people of things and blames everyone for losing instead of going with the matra we win as a team and lose as a team. When you have a guy who points fingers at other people that is a problem. All you have to do is watch the signs. Your little cheap shot is something that TO would do. So if you want me to calm down you will delete that post. Then I will calm down.

Like I said you can't judge someone you don't know. All you know about T.O. is coming to you through a second hand source. The Cowboys organization(Jerry, players, radio hosts on their websites) have heard a lot of good things about T.O. He must not be too bad if his former teammates and people who have worked with him before are saying he isn't as bad as the media makes him to be. And these are people who know T.O., not know about him. They give you one side of the story and you buy into it. As Jerry Jones said, he will start scoring T.O. today. He'll be judge by what he does and Dallas, not anything in the past.

 

[falconfan]

T.o In 49ers

The only reason reason T.O isn't in S.F is that he had problems with At the time dennis erickson [Who is now a collage coach] and he was released after before week 17 in 2003.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

tickle fiend, listen to yourself. OF COURSE you dont care about what happened in the past because Terrell Owens plays for YOUR favorite team. if Owens went to, oh let's say, the Redskins, you wouldnt give a rat's ass about Owens. now that he is wearing a big Dallas star on his helmet, now you are going to give the man the benefit of the doubt.

guess what? Philly fans were saying the same damn thing when he showed up in Philly. they "didnt care" about his troubles in SF and he and McNabb are good buddies, unlike him and Jeff Garcia. you must be 4 years old or something to not remember the ruckus he caused in SF. besides being a nuisance, he wanted out of SF because he wanted more money. he gets to Philly, has a good year, but after being there for 1 YEAR, he wanted a new contract. he becomes a nuisance again and lo and behold, ANOTHER team let's him go.

the sad thing is, Philly was a winning organization and he screwed that up. Owens fans point out that SF was going to go belly up, that's why he wanted out. but what about Philly?

you do realize you make ABSOLUTELY NO SENSE when you said the Eagles never make the SuperBowl without Owens. you said their regular season proves that. again, you must be like 4 years old or something. in the three previous NFC title games before Owens, Philly had homefield advantage, which means their REGULAR SEASONS were GREAT. there was no real difference in records before Owens and when Owens was there. all he did was bring a little more excitement. but he didnt PLAY in the NFC title game. football is the ultimate team game. if you do not play, you will not be considered "carrying the team". how can you? that's like saying the Chicago Bulls making the NBA finals and Jordan didnt play at all in the Eastern Conference Finals, but Michael got them there. Owens didnt throw a pass, block a man, catch a pass, tackle, kick, run, punt, score a TD, intercept a pass, force a fumble, recover a fumble, get a sack, record a safety, blitz, run back in a zone, or call plays, ONE TIME in the NFC title game over the Falcons. the EAGLES got to the SuperBowl WITHOUT Owens. but of course, you cant see it.

in 2006, Owens is going to "play nice", but when trouble sets in, like losing, or he isnt getting the ball, then you will see Owens' nature come out. wait and see.

wait a second, arent you a Blazers fan? now i understand why you like athletes with "social problems". yeah, the Jailblazers were fun to watch huh?

It's funny how people can get into your brain and tell you what you are/were thinking, but let me make myself clear. From the very beginning I felt the Eagles were stupid for releasing this man. They should have kept him and worked things out or got something for him. Before the CBA was done, they had T.O. landing in Denver or K.C. At that time I prefered he went to K.C. I wanted to see him do well in K.C. and help that team. After the CBA, they felt he could also go to Dallas or Washington. I sure as hell didn't want him to go to Washington and help that team. I wanted him in Dallas at that point because I know he would help whatever team he went to. Wherever he went I felt/feel he would do fine. I never hated T.O. I didn't like when he went to the star and was glad George Teague went and busted his ass the second time. I didn't want T.O. to do well against the Cwobys and didn't want him to do too well in Philly because I hate that team. I don't hate players, never have. I like the flambouyant stlye players have today and love seeing them have fun and entertaining us.

As I said before, I don't care what happened in the past. His time in Dallas started officially Saturdayt afternoon and that's what matters. How long has T.O. been in the league? He was with the 49ers for 8 years. Of those eight he had "trouble" in two. He went to Philly and had trouble in one year. Forget the other seven years when he did just fine. He had trouble in Philly, oh well. I sure as hell won't feel sorry for and organization who has fans that cheer career threating injuries. I'm not saying that for sure T.O. will be perfect in Dallas, although I think he will. This is a new stage in his life. He has experienced things now that he hadn't experienced before. I'm using the wait and see approach. You should too instead of having your mind made up. Keyshawn had a similar situation in Tampa and what happened in Dallas?

As for the Eagles and their Super Bowl, T.O. got them there, case closed. He was brought in for a reason. They had the best season in team history. T.O. improved that offense and helped McNabbs stats a lot. You don't get to where the Eagles got in the playoffs unless you a have great regular season. They managed to win two games without T.O. and they lost two. T.O. was the deal when he played. If he didn't play in the Super Bowl the Eagles would have got killed. He still carried them after coming off of an injury. The Bulls got to their level with MJ. Without him they didn't win a championship, just as the Eagles losing three straight Championship games w/o T.O. The Bulls did well without MJ but didn't get to where they wanted to be, just as the Eagles and T.O. You can't discard 14 other games because he didn't play in two. You say I can't see that T.O. didn't help the Eagles get to the Superbowl. It seems to me that you can't see all that he did for the Eagles. The Eagles won't do well this year offensively. They released their offense last week.

And I was a Traiblazer fan before they were labled the Jailblazers. There cleaning it up and have some good young players. Me liking the T.O. or nay other player has nothing to do with my interest in the Portland Trailblazers.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

It's funny how people can get into your brain and tell you what you are/were thinking, but let me make myself clear. From the very beginning I felt the Eagles were stupid for releasing this man. They should have kept him and worked things out or got something for him. Before the CBA was done, they had T.O. landing in Denver or K.C. At that time I prefered he went to K.C. I wanted to see him do well in K.C. and help that team. After the CBA, they felt he could also go to Dallas or Washington. I sure as hell didn't want him to go to Washington and help that team. I wanted him in Dallas at that point because I know he would help whatever team he went to. Wherever he went I felt/feel he would do fine. I never hated T.O. I didn't like when he went to the star and was glad George Teague went and busted his ass the second time. I didn't want T.O. to do well against the Cwobys and didn't want him to do too well in Philly because I hate that team. I don't hate players, never have. I like the flambouyant stlye players have today and love seeing them have fun and entertaining us.

As I said before, I don't care what happened in the past. His time in Dallas started officially Saturdayt afternoon and that's what matters. How long has T.O. been in the league? He was with the 49ers for 8 years. Of those eight he had "trouble" in two. He went to Philly and had trouble in one year. Forget the other seven years when he did just fine. He had trouble in Philly, oh well. I sure as hell won't feel sorry for and organization who has fans that cheer career threating injuries. I'm not saying that for sure T.O. will be perfect in Dallas, although I think he will. This is a new stage in his life. He has experienced things now that he hadn't experienced before. I'm using the wait and see approach. You should too instead of having your mind made up. Keyshawn had a similar situation in Tampa and what happened in Dallas?

As for the Eagles and their Super Bowl, T.O. got them there, case closed. He was brought in for a reason. They had the best season in team history. T.O. improved that offense and helped McNabbs stats a lot. You don't get to where the Eagles got in the playoffs unless you a have great regular season. They managed to win two games without T.O. and they lost two. T.O. was the deal when he played. If he didn't play in the Super Bowl the Eagles would have got killed. He still carried them after coming off of an injury. The Bulls got to their level with MJ. Without him they didn't win a championship, just as the Eagles losing three straight Championship games w/o T.O. The Bulls did well without MJ but didn't get to where they wanted to be, just as the Eagles and T.O. You can't discard 14 other games because he didn't play in two. You say I can't see that T.O. didn't help the Eagles get to the Superbowl. It seems to me that you can't see all that he did for the Eagles. The Eagles won't do well this year offensively. They released their offense last week.

And I was a Traiblazer fan before they were labled the Jailblazers. There cleaning it up and have some good young players. Me liking the T.O. or nay other player has nothing to do with my interest in the Portland Trailblazers.

" The Eagles losing three straight Championship games w/o T.O." They also won a championship game without T.O. He NEVER helped them get to the Super Bowl. You point out, they won 2 games without him and lost 2 games without him. It the most important game of T.O. career the Super Bowl they LOST!!! As a TEAM. There is the bottomline. You say the Eagles would have gotten killed without him. We will never know that. Why??? Because they won the most important game to that point ( The NFC Championship game ) without T.O. playing.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

" The Eagles losing three straight Championship games w/o T.O." They also won a championship game without T.O. He NEVER helped them get to the Super Bowl. You point out, they won 2 games without him and lost 2 games without him. It the most important game of T.O. career the Super Bowl they LOST!!! As a TEAM. There is the bottomline. You say the Eagles would have gotten killed without him. We will never know that. Why??? Because they won the most important game to that point ( The NFC Championship game ) without T.O. playing.

They lost the Superbowl because they faced a good team, a team much better than them. If you don't think T.O. helped the Eagles reach the Super Bowl then you are either crazy or high. The Eagles played there way into the Super Bowl. T.O. made his stats and he made McNabbs. All you have to do is look at how much they got better with T.O. They got as far as they did because of T.O. He was the offense and he put up the points. You can just look at their receiver production this past season. He still outplayed every receiver on that team. T.O. was the Eagles hope and now they have lost that.

 

[primetime]

tickle fiend, you sure seem to have problems understanding logic. you keep saying T.O. got the Eagles to the SuperBowl. HOW????

you said, Owens was their offense. if i remember correctly, Brian Westbrook's production had a lot to do with it as well. granted, Owens stats helped improve the Eagles and they did well. but here is where your logic makes no sense. they way you put it, you make it seem like the Eagles offense was completely inept before Owens got there. yet, this same "inept" offense made it to the NFC title game THREE years in a row. not too many teams can say that. now, T.O. got hurt in like game 12 or 13 and everyone thought the Eagles were done. BUT, they still won the Divisional playoff game and presto! they are in the NFC title game AGAIN. how could this possibly happen if the guy who "got them there" wasnt even in uniform? then, they played another NFC title game without Owens and they win! how could they do this with the same cast of players before Terrell got there?

the simple fact that the Eagles won the NFC title game WITHOUT Owens playing kills your warped logic. how can a player get his team to the SuperBowl WITHOUT playing? that is what you have to explain. your only rationale comes from the regular season. Owens didnt play the entire regular season and played ONE post season game which was the SuperBowl. please, for the sake of logic, explain how Owens can get the Eagles to the SuperBowl WITHOUT playing. i know you have better sense than this. before you post your reply, please make sure you think out your answer. ask yourself, "how can a guy get his team to the SuperBowl without playing?" keep in mind, his regular season performance has absolutely NO bearing on the NFC title game. his stats didnt "magically" appear in the NFC title game. what was Owens stats in the NFC title game? ZERO catches, ZERO yards. he DID NOT PLAY.

how come i got a feeling you're going to screw this up?

 

[Tickle Fiend]

tickle fiend, you sure seem to have problems understanding logic. you keep saying T.O. got the Eagles to the SuperBowl. HOW????

you said, Owens was their offense. if i remember correctly, Brian Westbrook's production had a lot to do with it as well. granted, Owens stats helped improve the Eagles and they did well. but here is where your logic makes no sense. they way you put it, you make it seem like the Eagles offense was completely inept before Owens got there. yet, this same "inept" offense made it to the NFC title game THREE years in a row. not too many teams can say that. now, T.O. got hurt in like game 12 or 13 and everyone thought the Eagles were done. BUT, they still won the Divisional playoff game and presto! they are in the NFC title game AGAIN. how could this possibly happen if the guy who "got them there" wasnt even in uniform? then, they played another NFC title game without Owens and they win! how could they do this with the same cast of players before Terrell got there?

the simple fact that the Eagles won the NFC title game WITHOUT Owens playing kills your warped logic. how can a player get his team to the SuperBowl WITHOUT playing? that is what you have to explain. your only rationale comes from the regular season. Owens didnt play the entire regular season and played ONE post season game which was the SuperBowl. please, for the sake of logic, explain how Owens can get the Eagles to the SuperBowl WITHOUT playing. i know you have better sense than this. before you post your reply, please make sure you think out your answer. ask yourself, "how can a guy get his team to the SuperBowl without playing?" keep in mind, his regular season performance has absolutely NO bearing on the NFC title game. his stats didnt "magically" appear in the NFC title game. what was Owens stats in the NFC title game? ZERO catches, ZERO yards. he DID NOT PLAY.

how come i got a feeling you're going to screw this up?

You play the regular season to get to the playoffs. I don't know who this EVERYBODY is that you speak of. The Eagles had won thirteen games when T.O. got hurt. The next to they played they lost and finished 13-3 so I don't know what you mean by saying everyone thought they were done. What you do in the regular season decided what you do in the post season. I'm looking at T.O.'s affect as a whole not on two games like you are, even if it was such a big game. You say that T.O.'s stats didn't magically appear in the NFC title game, well neither did the Eagles team. Brian Westbrook became known in the 2004 season. You don't think T.O.'s presence helped Westbrook get to his first Pro Bowl. Teams were focused on who? You act as if they were asked to play a whole season without T.O. They managed to win two games, okay. The fact is that bringing in T.O. moved the Eagles to the next level to where they would even be playing in the Super Bowl. T.O. went to Philly to put them in that game, words that every player and personnel on the Eagles sayed the minute he arrived. T.O. did his job and came back to carry the team in the Super Bowl. If the Eagles had to play the Pats in the Conference Championships they would have neer made it. T.O. did his job and I'm glad to have him in Big D.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

You play the regular season to get to the playoffs. I don't know who this EVERYBODY is that you speak of. The Eagles had won thirteen games when T.O. got hurt. The next to they played they lost and finished 13-3 so I don't know what you mean by saying everyone thought they were done. What you do in the regular season decided what you do in the post season. I'm looking at T.O.'s affect as a whole not on two games like you are, even if it was such a big game. You say that T.O.'s stats didn't magically appear in the NFC title game, well neither did the Eagles team. Brian Westbrook became known in the 2004 season. You don't think T.O.'s presence helped Westbrook get to his first Pro Bowl. Teams were focused on who? You act as if they were asked to play a whole season without T.O. They managed to win two games, okay. The fact is that bringing in T.O. moved the Eagles to the next level to where they would even be playing in the Super Bowl. T.O. went to Philly to put them in that game, words that every player and personnel on the Eagles sayed the minute he arrived. T.O. did his job and came back to carry the team in the Super Bowl. If the Eagles had to play the Pats in the Conference Championships they would have neer made it. T.O. did his job and I'm glad to have him in Big D.

Let's take a different angle since you keep dropping the ball here. How did the Eagles get to the NFC Championship Game for three straight years WITHOUT Crybaby??? Then how did they win the NFC Championship Game versus the Falcons without him???

 

[Tickle Fiend]

Let's take a different angle since you keep dropping the ball here. How did the Eagles get to the NFC Championship Game for three straight years WITHOUT Crybaby??? Then how did they win the NFC Championship Game versus the Falcons without him???

Maybe if you put some power on the ball it would at least reach me halfway. We can look at it from another angle also. What did the Eagles achieve in those three years T.O. wasn't on their sideline and the two he was? The year he came they got to the game they wanted to get to

 

[primetime]

yep, you screwed it up.

did you honestly say "what you do in the regular season decided what you do in the postseason"? looking back at your post, you did.... sad, sad, sad.

if that was true, then Indianapolis would have been in the SuperBowl and there's no way in hell the Steelers even get to the SuperBowl. if that was true, then Pittsburgh should have gotten to the SuperBowl in the 2004 season. after all, they went 15-1. your logic is ridiculous.

you really dont get it do you? how did the Eagles win the game without Owens playing? let me know what Owens did in the NFC title game that made the Eagles win. PLEASE TELL ME!!!! what did Owens do IN THAT SPECIFIC game that made the Eagles win? hell even McNabb said "we can win without T.O." and guess what? THEY DID!!!!!

i think you already know you sound like someone with no common sense. right now, you're trying your best, but my friend, you are simply making yourself look more and more inept at simple logic.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

Maybe if you put some power on the ball it would at least reach me halfway. We can look at it from another angle also. What did the Eagles achieve in those three years T.O. wasn't on their sideline and the two he was? The year he came they got to the game they wanted to get to

But did he play in the game they needed him to play to get to the game they wanted to play??? Answer this question for me please. I know the answer already but I want to know if you know the answer. How many catches did T.O have in the NFC Championship Game? How many times did Donovan McNabb throw in his direction on the firld??? How many patterns did he run in the NFC Championship game??? Then tell me what his contribution was to that particular game that put them over the top and into the Super Bowl. Please don't tell me about regular season. They were the best team in the NFC for three years running prior to T.O getting there. How did he put them over the top in that NFC Championship Game and into the Super Bowl that year?

 

[Tickle Fiend]

yep, you screwed it up.

did you honestly say "what you do in the regular season decided what you do in the postseason"? looking back at your post, you did.... sad, sad, sad.

if that was true, then Indianapolis would have been in the SuperBowl and there's no way in hell the Steelers even get to the SuperBowl. if that was true, then Pittsburgh should have gotten to the SuperBowl in the 2004 season. after all, they went 15-1. your logic is ridiculous.

you really dont get it do you? how did the Eagles win the game without Owens playing? let me know what Owens did in the NFC title game that made the Eagles win. PLEASE TELL ME!!!! what did Owens do IN THAT SPECIFIC game that made the Eagles win? hell even McNabb said "we can win without T.O." and guess what? THEY DID!!!!!

i think you already know you sound like someone with no common sense. right now, you're trying your best, but my friend, you are simply making yourself look more and more inept at simple logic.

Actually I think you don't understand. The Eagles went 13-3 in the regular season and were able to get home-field advantage. Since when does the regular season not matter? Are you trying to tell me that the regular season has no influence whatsoever on the playoffs? They won 13 mf games. Do you realize what T.O. did for that team? If you can't see what T.O. did for the Eagles then you are crazy and I don't even need to continue this argument. You have people on the fk'ing team who said how much he did for that team. I know you don't like T.O. but come on. I know T.O. didn't play in the NFC title game but was that the only game they played. There are other things that they must achieve in order to reach such a level. Without doing well in the regular season you can't get to the playoffs or the Superbowl. Oh and just because you think I don't understand your argument doesn't mean I don't have common sense. It's called disagreeing. And just because you have someone who agrees with you doesn't mean you are right, it's called an opinion.

 

[Tickle Fiend]

But did he play in the game they needed him to play to get to the game they wanted to play??? Answer this question for me please. I know the answer already but I want to know if you know the answer. How many catches did T.O have in the NFC Championship Game? How many times did Donovan McNabb throw in his direction on the firld??? How many patterns did he run in the NFC Championship game??? Then tell me what his contribution was to that particular game that put them over the top and into the Super Bowl. Please don't tell me about regular season. They were the best team in the NFC for three years running prior to T.O getting there. How did he put them over the top in that NFC Championship Game and into the Super Bowl that year?

The Eagles were in the position they were in the playoffs because of the regular season. They had 13 wins when T.O. went down and got homefield. Had T.O. not played during the regualr season why shouldn't I believe they wouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl. I think they would have been no higher than a 3 seed. You do know there is more to an NFL season than the playoffs or just the Conference Championships, right? Or do you tune in once the playoffs begin because thats what it sounds like.

 

[ticklingfeet4fu]

The Eagles were in the position they were in the playoffs because of the regular season. They had 13 wins when T.O. went down and got homefield. Had T.O. not played during the regualr season why shouldn't I believe they wouldn't have made it to the Super Bowl. I think they would have been no higher than a 3 seed. You do know there is more to an NFL season than the playoffs or just the Conference Championships, right? Or do you tune in once the playoffs begin because thats what it sounds like.

So the fact that you didn't answer the questions that I asked means that you don't know the answers. By the way, they were the one seed for the 3 straight years prior. Why should you all of a sudden say they would have been a 3 seed. You know what??? You better get your skirt ironed and your pom-poms filled. Season is right around the corner. T.O needs you to cheer his name. 😀

 

[Tickle Fiend]

So the fact that you didn't answer the questions that I asked means that you don't know the answers. By the way, they were the one seed for the 3 straight years prior. Why should you all of a sudden say they would have been a 3 seed. You know what??? You better get your skirt ironed and your pom-poms filled. Season is right around the corner. T.O needs you to cheer his name. 😀

I'll put them on as soon as you get of off Primetime's d*ck. And I guess they made history if they were a number 1 seed all three years they were in the NFC Championship. They must have been the first number 1 seed ever to play on the road when they played the Rams. Thank you for bringing that piece of history to my attention. And I see you answered none of my questions either so I guess you don't know the answer to them either. This season I will cheer T.O. and you will be due with Primetime's baby. That'll be a part of history there too.