The TMF is nothing without its members

[Wolf]

I'll buy that.

It's hairless - Dr. Evil-style 😉

Strangely appropriate, when you think about it.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Strangely appropriate, when you think about it.

😕 Now you lost me

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

how much sucking up do you do wolf

Well if he ever expects to be a member of the cool kids club he's gonna have to suck up to some of its most prominant members. I'm sending him over to Euphoricy next so that he can talk to her about and . Geez, do I have to explain everything?

 

[RobAce]

The internet forum is a working relationship. Without the people that keep it running, the forum doesn't work. Without the members, the forum has no purpose. Both parts are important enough that each side should take the other side's feelings into account.

I more so highlighted the part I think should be understood, and from both sides.

You have a forum, that on the most part runs the way YOU want it 364 days a year. All the owner/mods/pranksters want is 1 FREAKING DAY!

When taking feelings into account, imagine the work that the MODS do to keep SPAM, TROLLS, FLAMING (to whatever degree you think its around but believe me it could be and has been worse elsewhere), CONTENT, CHATROOMS, and all the updates going. Ahhhh yes, you see where I am going don't you.

I THINK THE MODS AND THOSE THAT PULLED THE PRANKS SHOULD BE BURNED FOR DISRUPTING OUR FORUM!!! HOW DARE THEY!!! They need to remember that with out the members, the forum would be a shell only inhabited by a middle aged hen, 3 rather mangy cows and a dachshund named Colin.

Didn't expect that did ya! WHAT A TWIST!

Ok, back to the main point. Why can it not be understood that by the same token you wish for your feelings to be understood on why you dislike "Shemp Day" and all the grief it caused you.....imagine having to deal with it EVERYDAY! Yup. That is what a MOD goes through 364 days. PM's about this that, fighting, in fighting, stalking, puppets, trolls, spam, arguments, accusations, bullying, etc.

So the disarray you experience for 1 day (some parts LESS than an hour) is almost a daily chore for the moderators. And for 1 day the owner and a few others get together and have a little fun. Just to smile for 1 day to attempt to bring a little humor (for those that find it funny) into their life, into the forum they work hard to maintain, and now they get basically shit on for that.

Now who is not taking peoples feelings into account?

Is it really that bad you can not give up 1 day for the people who run this place to mess around?

That's all it is really about. Just a release for one day from the usual BS that goes on around here, in front of and behind the scenes.

And again, nuff said.

Rob

 

[His Divine Shadow]

I'll give a friendly reminder to all parties to be civil. A number of Golden Rule violations and responses to them have been deleted and further violations will result in bans of a temporary or permanent nature. We don't intend to stifle discussion but we will not tolerate violations of the Golden Rule.

 

[Wolf]

Fair enough.

I'll give a friendly reminder to all parties to be civil. A number of Golden Rule violations and responses to them have been deleted and further violations will result in bans of a temporary or permanent nature. We don't intend to stifle discussion but we will not tolerate violations of the Golden Rule.

But I never thought LEXX was that great. 😱

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

with out the members, the forum would be a shell only inhabited by a middle aged hen, 3 rather mangy cows and a dachshund named Colin.

...and puppets...

nuff said.

I would so join a forum like that <3

I find it interesting that the people who can't stand the prank for less than 24 hours keep the fire burning on the dance floor for days after the original incident is over.

 

[Tiger.Lily]

I just find it so amusing whenever Babyshambles has an opinion on something. He just HAS to make it known.

We know you have a problem with the TMF. And we know. And we know. And we know.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

But I never thought LEXX was that great. 😱

You're way over my head there, big guy. Let's kick it back to me, Dr. Evil style, saying "we meet again" with a bald cat in my lap....and maybe my pinky on my lip...and maybe that creepy one big eye one little eye stare....perhaps the maniacal laughter that goes on far too long....aaaaaaand ill tempered seabass...plzkthx. That was funny and I understood it 😛

 

[Wolf]

Sorry...

You're way over my head there, big guy. Let's kick it back to me, Dr. Evil style, saying "we meet again" with a bald cat in my lap....and maybe my pinky on my lip...and maybe that creepy one big eye one little eye stare....perhaps the maniacal laughter that goes on far too long....aaaaaaand ill tempered seabass...plzkthx. That was funny and I understood it 😛

The 'LEXX' reference was a half-hearted, feeble, tongue in cheek attempt at defiance towards HDS (His Divine Shadow being a major element of the Sci-Fi series, LEXX, which enjoys a wide, loyal, deeply disturbed following). You know, like when a child stomps away to bed. He's going, but he ain't happy...

 

[drewskee]

I just find it so amusing whenever Babyshambles has an opinion on something. He just HAS to make it known.

We know you have a problem with the TMF. And we know. And we know. And we know.

He can be rather amusing in an annoying way, huh?

There's one in every forum.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

The 'LEXX' reference was a half-hearted, feeble, tongue in cheek attempt at defiance towards HDS (His Divine Shadow being a major element of the Sci-Fi series, LEXX, which enjoys a wide, loyal, deeply disturbed following). You know, like when a child stomps away to bed. He's going, but he ain't happy...

Ahhh - I see said the blind man.

 

[venray]

The actual guy who runs this place wasn't behind this.

So if Jeff wasn't the guy doing this? Your concept of biting the hand that feeds HAS NO backing. He gets to wear the dictator pants.

Hey, also? Majority of folk? Didn't find the thing funny. Also? Why is it that those involved with the thing have danced around the issue and told people to just not come on the forum? Those people aren't Jeff, so guess what? They don't get to tell an ENTIRE forum community what to do.

Nothing happens to this forum on shempday or any other without the consent of the owner....

 

[The Fallen Angel]

The way i see it its like a small group of kids having some really kick ass toys that they pull together and then allow a huge group of people enjoy them. Anytime their is a problem with the toys or even other kids the origional group takes care of the problem usually right away without any problems.
And then once a year the origional kids want to mess with/change/alter their toys just for kicks or to get a rise.

It inevitable gets a rise and the people sharing in it demand satisfaction and that all these shennanigans stop because where they come to play with the toys is their space and the people who own them have no right to do what they want because they werent involved. Saying that if they left the awesome toys could not possibly function by themselves and that the origional owners would lose all fun in their lives.

Sounds pretty stupid when you put it that way but thats exactly whats happening here

 

[MrMacphisto]

The TMF owes its members everything. They wouldn't exist without us.
I'm absolutely sure that all of the owners and moderators recognise this fact.

Uh... no. A forum is private property, and its openness to the public is a private choice on the part of the owners.

As long as property rights exist, this holds true. Logically, this means that the owners of the forum don't owe members that don't contribute material to the forum.

But it gets to me when people say that the ordinary members dont matter, They ar hugely critical to the success of failure of this forum.

If you're defining ordinary members as people who don't contribute material, then they collectively serve a purpose for consuming material and encouraging others to join, but individually, they do not incur any entitlements from the owners.

Logically, your premise just doesn't add up.

Besides, it's not a matter of anyone owing anyone else anything. It's a matter of having a good time and not being a killjoy.

 

[meangry]

Oh, BabyShambles - we meet again.

The message the OP quoted was mine. I posted it in one of the many Shemp crap threads in response to Adam saying his personal space was invaded when all the words on the ENTIRE forum that were any derivative of "foot" or "tickle" were changed to SHEMP, and if effected his (and everyone else's) posts, blogs, PMs, basically anything written on the forum. (Can you imagine what the stories section looked like? Oy!)

Anyway, my point is, people seem to think they come here and are owed something for their wonderful existence on the TMF, when in fact, they're not. This place is paid for, run, and maintained by people who are NOT you. They run the show. They make the decisions. You can like it or hate it, but that's the way it is. If you want to go somewhere where they'll hold your hand and kiss your forehead and say, "Sorry we ruined your day," then get to gettin' cause it ain't happenin' here.

We're a member-driven forum - if the members all got their panties in a bunch and left the TMF would die. Yes, you're right. But that would only be punishing the members themselves, not the people who run it. They don't get anything out of running the site. They don't make money. All they get is the same content that we get (which they could get elsewhere if all the members migrated to one of the other, and in my opinion, considerably less awesome TK sites), and the satisfaction of making available to all of us a totally awesome place to make friends and share MANY interests - not just the one that happens to bring us all here.

So, I stand by original statement that this site belongs to the people who run it. We're all allowed to post and message and blog here because they decided to let us come, and then made those features available. It's not their duty to do so, and it certainly isn't owed to us.

No, this site belongs to the person who pays the damn bill, and that's one guy. Paper ass argument of kissing heads and all that not withstanding, the folks doing this aren't even vital cogs to this machine.

They're like you.

And like me.

So hey, I want to run a prank too. How about every single person who is telling everyone else to get over this, how about they all get banned? Or how about I put aborted fetus pictures along the borders of the page? What if I was the fill each ad spot on the left side bar with pictures of dogs being killed? Because, guess what? All those things have been used in gags I have seen over the web, and in the correct usage, those things are funny.

Hey, I am sure you all would dig my humor. And when you would bitch about savagery, someone could tell you to get over it. Know why? Because pranks and senses of humor are relative.

If it's Jeff doing it, then I am cool with it. He pays the bill, this is his life, so I will abide by him because he affords me a luxury I do not have to pay for. But, I don't owe jack shit to a bunch of old tickle community celebrities who apparently believe completely irrelevant status means they get to tell everyone and their brother the fuck off if they don't dig.

And, if you paid attention, the real heart of this issue? Is the utter backhanded "get over it" mentality. Not a single well reasoned response by those responsible. And folk like you? You allow them to continue to not give a single goddamn worthwhile answer to the entire process by backing them up on some arbitrary ground you believe you have an understanding of.

Nothing happens to this forum on shempday or any other without the consent of the owner....

So, both the admins and the owner knew fully well what you had planned and allowed you to do so?

I just find it so amusing whenever Babyshambles has an opinion on something. He just HAS to make it known.

We know you have a problem with the TMF. And we know. And we know. And we know.

I would reason this sort of sentiment for you as well, but it appears people don't get that trolling goes even if it's from someone who spouts off apparent public opinion.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

No, this site belongs to the person who pays the damn bill, and that's one guy. Paper ass argument of kissing heads and all that not withstanding, the folks doing this aren't even vital cogs to this machine.

They're like you.

And like me.

So hey, I want to run a prank too. How about every single person who is telling everyone else to get over this, how about they all get banned? Or how about I put aborted fetus pictures along the borders of the page? What if I was the fill each ad spot on the left side bar with pictures of dogs being killed? Because, guess what? All those things have been used in gags I have seen over the web, and in the correct usage, those things are funny.

Hey, I am sure you all would dig my humor. And when you would bitch about savagery, someone could tell you to get over it. Know why? Because pranks and senses of humor are relative.

If it's Jeff doing it, then I am cool with it. He pays the bill, this is his life, so I will abide by him because he affords me a luxury I do not have to pay for. But, I don't owe jack shit to a bunch of old tickle community celebrities who apparently believe completely irrelevant status means they get to tell everyone and their brother the fuck off if they don't dig.

And, if you paid attention, the real heart of this issue? Is the utter backhanded "get over it" mentality. Not a single well reasoned response by those responsible. And folk like you? You allow them to continue to not give a single goddamn worthwhile answer to the entire process by backing them up on some arbitrary ground you believe you have an understanding of.

If you please, come down off of your soapbox and let me let you in on a few key pieces of information.

1.)

Nothing happens to this forum on shempday or any other without the consent of the owner....

Sounds like Jeff, the owner, the man who pays the bills, the guy who you're "cool with" if he did it, wasn't as in the dark as you might have thought.

2.) This thread isn't about shempday or pranks or who can get away with what. This thread is about who owes what to whom around here. My stance, shempday or no shempday, is that the people who run the site are the owners. If you want to pare that down to Jeff, go right ahead.

3.) If you can get Jeff's okay to do all that crap that you mentioned doing, go right ahead and do it. I haz a feeling it ain't gonna happen, but if it'll stir your kool-aid go ahead and give it a shot big guy.

BTW, I do admire your use of such shocking images like aborted fetuses and animal abuse. They undoubtedly made your argument much stronger because, ya know, it's such a realistic notion.

 

[MrMacphisto]

Look, I don't want to start anything, but uh... how did aborted fetuses enter this discussion?

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

Look, I don't want to start anything, but uh... how did aborted fetuses enter this discussion?

In an attempt to make us all see the light and understand how the shempday prank wasn't funny, meangry equated it to posting pictures of aborted fetuses all over the forum for a "prank" because...ya know...."humor is relative"

 

[meangry]

If you please, come down off of your soapbox and let me let you in on a few key pieces of information.

1.) Sounds like Jeff, the owner, the man who pays the bills, the guy who you're "cool with" if he did it, wasn't as in the dark as you might have thought.

2.) This thread isn't about shempday or pranks or who can get away with what. This thread is about who owes what to whom around here. My stance, shempday or no shempday, is that the people who run the site are the owners. If you want to pare that down to Jeff, go right ahead.

3.) If you can get Jeff's okay to do all that crap that you mentioned doing, go right ahead and do it. I haz a feeling it ain't gonna happen, but if it'll stir your kool-aid go ahead and give it a shot big guy.

BTW, I do admire your use of such shocking images like aborted fetuses and animal abuse. They undoubtedly made your argument much stronger because, ya know, it's such a realistic notion.

No more realistic than you complete inability to substantiate yourself.

Your apparent having key pieces of information, then postulating your opinion? That's cute. I would continue to explain the very simple notions pressed before you, but you've already shown a complete lack of intelligence in being able to read what was there by going on yet another inane bent, albeit slightly more dressed up.

I said I was done, and now I am. Mairead might be on to something.

 

[meangry]

In an attempt to make us all see the light and understand how the shempday prank wasn't funny, meangry equated it to posting pictures of aborted fetuses all over the forum for a "prank" because...ya know...."humor is relative"

Humor is relative.

 

[venray]

Look, I don't want to start anything, but uh... how did aborted fetuses enter this discussion?

Because the man with higher intelligence than the rest of us combined reasoned that these were the right images to make his argument.....

oh well....

Same guy who thinks anyone can do anything to this forum without Jeff's OK....

 

[The Fallen Angel]

No more realistic than you complete inability to substantiate yourself.

Your apparent having key pieces of information, then postulating your opinion? That's cute. I would continue to explain the very simple notions pressed before you, but you've already shown a complete lack of intelligence in being able to read what was there by going on yet another inane bent, albeit slightly more dressed up.

I said I was done, and now I am. Mairead might be on to something.

This is a ive been proven wrong so let me use a lot of big words to make myself sound right post. If your going to try and belittle someone after you have been proven wrong you may want to use the words in correct context instead of talking yourself into a circle and essentially saying you dont see it as i do so your an idiot and now im taking my ball and going home

 

[meangry]

Because the man with higher intelligence than the rest of us combined reasoned that these were the right images to make his argument.....

oh well....

Same guy who thinks anyone can do anything to this forum without Jeff's OK....

Because I have to sit here and take your word as law?

How about I wait until Jeff says he approved of this.

Until then, I will continue to believe that you, as someone who isn't an Admin and as someone who isn't paying the server bill, isn't as correct as you want others to believe.

 

[Skipadeedoodah]

No more realistic than you complete inability to substantiate yourself.

Your apparent having key pieces of information, then postulating your opinion? That's cute. I would continue to explain the very simple notions pressed before you, but you've already shown a complete lack of intelligence in being able to read what was there by going on yet another inane bent, albeit slightly more dressed up.

I said I was done, and now I am. Mairead might be on to something.

Hmm....let me see if I can dumb this do-...err...change this around a little so you can maybe see how this is information not opinion.

1.) Jeff knew what was going on. (not opinion)
2.) This thread is not about shempday, it's about who really "owns" the TMF (not opinion)
3.) You can try to get Jeff's approval to make the aforementioned changes, but it won't work. (not opinion).

Perhaps we see now, hm?