Tickle Torture in SE Asia - FREE Movie Thread

[peetickler]

mikemike: "The Tickling Clips Human Rights Violation Watch Fund"

What an excellent post, mikemike. I vote we ignore wendynpeter until mikemike has confirmed that he (or she) has made a contribution.

 

[Cynthia_Massol]

Is it possible to move this thread to another section ?
It's boring to see everyday, in the Video/Audio Clips section,
an answer to this thread without any new clip but already 150 answers :-(

 

[tkl-pen]

Well, I guess you guys got to this producer - he has removed his free clips - and I think that's shameful - he does his best to produce something people will enjoy, hires the people, makes the videos, even puts out free clips for everyone to see - and what does he get for his trouble - nothing but abuse, harassment, accusations and inuendos, none of it founded in fact or reason - and all this from a very few members only.

I'll tell you this, Peter, and all of the others who have done this, and you can read my lips and smell my breath on this one, if this producer stops making these videos, which most of us like, I will personally take his place - and my tickle torture videos will make his look like a warm-up!

Not only that - I would make full length videos and post 2-minute free clips - just like the wonderful Dungeon Maidens!

 

[wendynpeter]

I'll tell you this, Peter, and all of the others who have done this, and you can read my lips and smell my breath on this one, if this producer stops making these videos, which most of us like, I will personally take his place - and my tickle torture videos will make his look like a warm-up!

What kind of threat is that? What are you saying, exactly? That you'll go BEYOND just hurting them enough to make them demand the scene to stop, curse, spit and scream? It's pretty clear from your arguments and what you've said here that you couldn't care less about the women involved, you just want to see something that gets you off.

 

[MikeMike]

mikemike: "The Tickling Clips Human Rights Violation Watch Fund"

What an excellent post, mikemike. I vote we ignore wendynpeter until mikemike has confirmed that he (or she) has made a contribution.

I thank you for that. At least someone got it.

 

[tkl-pen]

Not at all, Peter - in fact, I don't even know what you mean by 'getting off' on these clips - I have always liked damsels in peril - ever since I saw my first pulp fiction magazine at the age of twelve - but they used some nasty physical torture in those stories - I would never do anything like that and I don't even care to think about it - that's just nasty to me.

The idea of a young woman restrained and tickle tortured like that, though, is something I like. She would be there for a reason, as the video would show, and then find her entire body subject to intense tickle torture with all of the available and commonly accepted instruments as she screams, yells, and spits in her resistance. Not some guy simply kneading her ribs and feet into redness. The tickling would stop at a specific end point - when she pisses or orgasms.

The ticklees would, of course, be fully on board with the entire concept and would realize that the tickling would continue to one of those points. But I would also have safeguards in place to prevent a medical emergency. There might not be a so-called 'safe word' but there would certainly be a constant checking with the ticklee to ensure she was okay. I would not want to really harm her in any way.

This to me, Peter, would be an exciting adventure for the tickler and the ticklee - not one individual abusing the other, as you purport. There is nothing more to me in such a video. I believe I live at a much higher level than simply 'getting off' on a video.

A tickle torture video, Peter, is simply that. Much like the wrestling we see on television looks vicious and violet, but is in fact completely scripted. In the clip you were upset about, that is exactly what happened. The girl put on a wonderful show and was a real drama queen. I do agree that at the end, when she screamed at the cameraman, she had certainly had enough. And do you know what, Peter? That's exactly when the tickling stopped. At that point, she asked the tickler to release her wrists because they were a little bit sore from her pulling at the restraints.

I think we all have a right to watch the clips we like. You think the girl was being harmed and I don't. If I did think the girl was being harmed, I wouldn't watch it either. But I do think that these kinds of clips have a place, and I am quite prepared to produce them if the producer quits.

Will I harm the girls? No, of course not.

Will I make it look like torture? Hell,ya!

Will I have dinner with the girl afterwards and laugh with her? For sure!

Will I allow the girl to refer others as MTS does? Of course!

Will I care about the girl, contrary to what you think? More than you can imagine!

 

[wendynpeter]

The tickling would stop at a specific end point - when she pisses or orgasms.

Sounds like you don't know as much about real-life tickle scenes as you would have us believe, my friend.

In the clip you were upset about, that is exactly what happened. The girl put on a wonderful show and was a real drama queen.

And how do you know this? Where you there?

I do agree that at the end, when she screamed at the cameraman, she had certainly had enough. And do you know what, Peter? That's exactly when the tickling stopped. At that point, she asked the tickler to release her wrists because they were a little bit sore from her pulling at the restraints.

She was completely done halfway through the video. The rest was just watching a thoroughly pissed-off woman get even more pissed off. Let's not kid each other. The video ended when HE decided it would -- just like he kept telling her it would (in between calling her a bitch every five seconds). I'm sure if she could have gotten away with ripping his nuts off at the end, that's exactly what she would have done. ANd I'm sure she *was* sore -- she was trying her best to break free.

At least now you are telling the truth about how pissed off she was at the end. That's a milestone in this marathon discussion.

I think we all have a right to watch the clips we like.

That clearly depends upon what sort of clips you like, my friend.

But I do think that these kinds of clips have a place, and I am quite prepared to produce them if the producer quits.

Go for it. Be sure to buy a cup to protect your nuts.

Will I harm the girls? No, of course not.

Will I make it look like torture? Hell,ya!

Will I have dinner with the girl afterwards and laugh with her? For sure!

Be sure to let me know how dinner goes with the ones who piss against their will.

 

[MÿTicklingStudios]

if this producer stops making these videos, which most of us like, I will personally take his place - and my tickle torture videos will make his look like a warm-up!

It's not going to happen tkl-pen, I'm not stopping. This thread has merely served its purpose.

More clips will be posted in future 🙂

 

[isabeau]

dang if you remove all free clips, i wont be able to view them. i am uh discouraged from buying any. talk about a free country. yea right.

isabeau

 

[tkl-pen]

Peter, this is becoming too personal I think and we're just attacking each other - clearly your view and mine differ - I know what the girl said at the end because I can speak the language - and there is a difference between 'pissed off' and 'having had enough' - we're just too polarized to ever agree on this - as for dinner with the girls who piss against their will, it would be the first date where the women don't have to run to the washroom every few minutes to 'powder their noses' - Peter, I don't mean anyone harm but I do enjoy the damsels in peril scenario.

 

[Yippie]

I'm still wondering why he's going on to film more clips when he even admitted that it's ILLEGAL to do so.... no one seems to pay attention to that in this thread......

 

[tkl-pen]

Yippie, I think I'll make a research project out of this - I'll look into what is and is not legal in Canada and the Asian countries - perhaps others will do that with other countries - not assumptions, not rumors, but really what is and is not legal under their laws - that should prove interesting - thanks for triggering that idea.

 

[isabeau]

I'm still wondering why he's going on to film more clips when he even admitted that it's ILLEGAL to do so.... no one seems to pay attention to that in this thread......

actually i did think about that also. and was going to ask, if its not legal, how can they get away with it? and also advertise that its not legal? in an open forum?

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

actually i did think about that also. and was going to ask, if its not legal, how can they get away with it? and also advertise that its not legal? in an open forum?

isabeau

Hi Isabeau

How does anyone in any country get away with doing something illegal? One thing though -- people need to constantly remind themselves that every country doesn't have America's legal system. In some countries, there three kinds of laws: laws that cannot be broken, laws that are in place to look good to the rest of the world even though they aren't enforced, and there are laws that are in place in order to create a neccessity/opportunity for bribes. Many countries actually rely on bribes as income for government officials. The regular pay isn't very much, but the government knows that officials will supplement their income with bribery money. When talking about global affairs, you have to remember that there are lots of places around the world where you aren't in Kansas anymore...

I think it's interesting how the truth is starting to come out here and things are begnning to unravel... I have zero interest in getting personal with anyone here. This is an issue being discussed, not a vendetta being exacted. I do feel strongly that we, as a community, need to embrace our responsibilities to police ourselves in order to make sure the government doesn't step in and do it for us. Sometimes all we have is our gut feeling about what our eyes see. Sometimes that has to be enough. Sometimes we have more. We have other facts we bring to the table. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves on which side of the fence we ought to err.

I have 20 years' experience in the real bdsm world. I've seen a lot, and I mean a LOT. I saw something here that provoked a gut response that I trust deeply, and others confirmed. That's good enough for me to speak up.

 

[isabeau]

Hi Isabeau

How does anyone in any country get away with doing something illegal? One thing though -- people need to constantly remind themselves that every country doesn't have America's legal system. In some countries, there three kinds of laws: laws that cannot be broken, laws that are in place to look good to the rest of the world even though they aren't enforced, and there are laws that are in place in order to create a neccessity/opportunity for bribes. Many countries actually rely on bribes as income for government officials. The regular pay isn't very much, but the government knows that officials will supplement their income with bribery money. When talking about global affairs, you have to remember that there are lots of places around the world where you aren't in Kansas anymore...

hi back wendynpeter bribes??? i had no idea.... now i feel rather silly and naive. thanks for that intelligent reply.

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

hi back wendynpeter bribes??? i had no idea.... now i feel rather silly and naive. thanks for that intelligent reply.

isabeau

Thanks for the kind words. I'm just saying there are a million ways to get around the law. Everything from just relying on going undetected to pay-offs to being the brother of the sheriff. That goes for almost all countries. But we as Westerners and Asians often forget that every country does not have a government based on rule of law. In many countries, all contracts are meaningless, because there's no legal mechanism by which they can be enforced. We take a LOT of things for granted.

 

[sexypapi]

Hi Isabeau

How does anyone in any country get away with doing something illegal? One thing though -- people need to constantly remind themselves that every country doesn't have America's legal system. In some countries, there three kinds of laws: laws that cannot be broken, laws that are in place to look good to the rest of the world even though they aren't enforced, and there are laws that are in place in order to create a neccessity/opportunity for bribes. Many countries actually rely on bribes as income for government officials. The regular pay isn't very much, but the government knows that officials will supplement their income with bribery money. When talking about global affairs, you have to remember that there are lots of places around the world where you aren't in Kansas anymore...

I think it's interesting how the truth is starting to come out here and things are begnning to unravel... I have zero interest in getting personal with anyone here. This is an issue being discussed, not a vendetta being exacted. I do feel strongly that we, as a community, need to embrace our responsibilities to police ourselves in order to make sure the government doesn't step in and do it for us. Sometimes all we have is our gut feeling about what our eyes see. Sometimes that has to be enough. Sometimes we have more. We have other facts we bring to the table. Sometimes we have to ask ourselves on which side of the fence we ought to err.

I have 20 years' experience in the real bdsm world. I've seen a lot, and I mean a LOT. I saw something here that provoked a gut response that I trust deeply, and others confirmed. That's good enough for me to speak up.

fire up the thought police and call george bush! lets get rid of everyone our "gut" tells us to.
i changed my mind im with wendynpeter..lets throw the bastards out of tmf!!
i mean how dare they offend us...after all i too have been in the bdsm world for over 20 years and counting and i am revolted!
i resolve to post 100 long angry post on every tickling forum until the garbage is removed!
yah!!!
afterall how dare he make a tickling video without a safe word NOBODY DOES THAT. How dare he use tickling to push a model to her limits NO BODY ELSE DOES THAT. How dare he do such awful things NOBODY IN THE TICKLING COMMUNITY WOULD EVER SUPPORT THAT KIND OF TRASH!

oh wait this is the real world i forgot

ahem nevermind


FORUM gODS SINCE MY TICKLING HAS REMOVED HIS CLIPS CAN WE PLEASE CLOSE THIS POST AND END THIS "HOLIER-THAN-THOU", SELF-RIGHTEOUS NONSENSE?????????????????????

 

[tkl-pen]

I'm done with it now - I have spent a lot of time on this that I could have used for tkl-pen stories - but I will look into the legalities of various countries and post factual information when I get it - it was an interesting thread here and I want to thank Peter for some fantastic debates - I really enjoyed that!

 

[isabeau]

fire up the thought police and call george bush! lets get rid of everyone our "gut" tells us to.
i changed my mind im with wendynpeter..lets throw the bastards out of tmf!!
i mean how dare they offend us...after all i too have been in the bdsm world for over 20 years and counting and i am revolted!
i resolve to post 100 long angry post on every tickling forum until the garbage is removed!
yah!!!
afterall how dare he make a tickling video without a safe word NOBODY DOES THAT. How dare he use tickling to push a model to her limits NO BODY ELSE DOES THAT. How dare he do such awful things NOBODY IN THE TICKLING COMMUNITY WOULD EVER SUPPORT THAT KIND OF TRASH!

oh wait this is the real world i forgot

ahem nevermind


FORUM gODS SINCE MY TICKLING HAS REMOVED HIS CLIPS CAN WE PLEASE CLOSE THIS POST AND END THIS "HOLIER-THAN-THOU", SELF-RIGHTEOUS NONSENSE?????????????????????

uh wow and ok

isabeau

 

[sexypapi]

right

so mods pleasssssse close this tired and aging thread!

 

[wendynpeter]

so mods pleasssssse close this tired and aging thread!

Papi, why don't you take your own advice? If you don't like it, just ignore it! Don't come to this thread and post! Why should it bother you if other people want to continue the discussion past *your* interest point? Why call for the mods to close this thread just because *you're* not interested anymore?

 

[asutickler]

I think this thread should be closed, too... But not because of anything WendynPeter has said.

There has been a lot of debate in this thread over wether the videos advertised herein are consensual, involve models of legal age, and etc. This isn't the reason, either.

There have been a number of posts in this thread (and others like it) of the "Who CARES what's going on! I like it, so its ok!" variety. THIS is what bothers me. I find it outright disgusting that so many people show complete disregard for the abuse of another human being, so long as the end product of that abuse is something that satisfies their desires. Some of the responses in this thread make me want to throw up.

I love this community. I've made many good friends here, and the vast majority of the people here are great... But I could really do without the daily reminder that there are drooling savages amongst us who would just love a video in which a person was actually tortured against their will.

Yuck.

 

[isabeau]

I think this thread should be closed, too... But not because of anything WendynPeter has said.

There has been a lot of debate in this thread over wether the videos advertised herein are consensual, involve models of legal age, and etc. This isn't the reason, either.

There have been a number of posts in this thread (and others like it) of the "Who CARES what's going on! I like it, so its ok!" variety. THIS is what bothers me. I find it outright disgusting that so many people show complete disregard for the abuse of another human being, so long as the end product of that abuse is something that satisfies their desires. Some of the responses in this thread make me want to throw up.

I love this community. I've made many good friends here, and the vast majority of the people here are great... But I could really do without the daily reminder that there are drooling savages amongst us who would just love a video in which a person was actually tortured against their will.

Yuck.

dang it i'm posting here again, but i have to agree with Asu on this one. close the thread. savages is the word alright..

isabeau

 

[wendynpeter]

dang it i'm posting here again, but i have to agree with Asu on this one. close the thread. savages is the word alright..

isabeau

I disagree with you guys. Not because I'm not disgusted too, but BECAUSE I'm disgusted. If we don't shine a light on this sort of thinking and let others see it for themselves, in print, then we've accomplished nothing! Compared to the number of commentators to this thread, the number of members who have read it and said nothing publicly is large. My hope is that those people have learned something about themselves and about the community by doing so.

Something like this helps people to turn the focus inward and think about how what's said relates to themselves. There may have been members who started out thinking "I'm getting off, so who cares?" But then, upon further reflection after reading these posts, may have changed the way they think about how their fetish and their personal needs and desires relate to how other human beings are treated.

It just gets back to Immanuel Kant's categorical imperative: "Treat others as ends in themselves, never as merely the means to another's end." Words to live by, my brothers and sisters.

 

[GuldenVleugel]

I agree with wendynpeter for that case, from the very start of all of this I shared their opinion as well. The only thing is, I'm not as eloquent as Peter (of it's Peter who's writing), and for the largest part does he explain my thought and ideas as well as those of many others in this community.

As for wendynpeter, good job fellows! That the reputation of our fetish remains reasonably neutral, because my dear fellow ticklephiles, some already find our fetish a disgusting tunnel to violent rape just because of some bad individuals who set up the worst example possible.
I'm not saying these clips are of that level. In my opinion do these clips potray abuse of monetary problems in South Eastern Asia and exploiting it in video clips makes it especially a terrible example indeed.