What DON'T you like about M/M tickling? (a discussion)

[tickledgirl]

I do apologize for not staying on topic since this thread is clearly about those who do not like m/m and why.

I do not like m/m because I find that it is the opposite of a sexual turn on for me, which is why I watch any videos. I find it impossible to masterbate to m/m tickling as I find the idea of homosexuality utterly repulsive and feel they do not have a place on the TMF let alone the rest of society.

The last thing I want to do is click on a clip link and find out that it has m/m tickling rather than m/f, f/f/ mff/f, etc. When I go to the threads I want clearly defined labels so I know what I am watching and not have to waste time downloading something that I am not interested in. When I saw the clip posted as hottest m/m I knew this was not for me and not something which I was interested in so I immediately went to it so I could prove to myself it was so disgusting. I am glad that you did post something on there about how terrible it is and how non-sexually appealing it is. God forbit anyone else click on a thread for a clip they have no sexual interest in and accidentally view a description or worse try to download a clearly defined clip.

I am very sorry I was not on topic earlier, yes we should not allow any m/m stuff on the TMF. If the gays want to have their own tickling site, let them just keep that gross stuff away from here no matter how clearly labeled it is. Of course there needs to be the exception that lesbian f/f stuff which is an okay kind of gay as like most men I find women going at it hot and it is not an affront to the sexual nature of hetero men, nor do I see it as a threat to my sexuality.

I'm glad we can clear this up and all be on the same page of the distasteful, yet clearly labeled, stuff that is m/m should not be allowed. Only good gay stuff involving two women, not the bad kind of gay that makes us so uncomfortable.

When I read this I assumed it was supposed to be a parody. I mean "God forbid anyone click on a thread" they don't like? "Clearly labelled m/m should not be allowed." That can't be serious, can it?

But I've seen a couple of responses that treated this seriously. Am I missing something.

 

[Krokus]

When I read this I assumed it was supposed to be a parody. I mean "God forbid anyone click on a thread" they don't like? "Clearly labelled m/m should not be allowed." That can't be serious, can it?

But I've seen a couple of responses that treated this seriously. Am I missing something.

I'm fairly positive it was sarcasm.

 

[Haribo!.]

is it me do people only want to respond to posts that attack this thread or cause argument? cause over the last few pages i was the only one to stay completely on topic and present my opinions on the actual subject and no-one has paid any attention to what i said not even TIB who seems to care more for defending the thread than listening and discussing the opinions he asked for in first place, your all just wasting time really. i seriously think you guys all just enjoy to argue and its really starting to look like the real reason the thread was started,

TIB im not havin a go and if my points on the subject were invalid to the discussion then thats fine but ive been bothered to voice what i think and you seem to be be more focused on the people that are miss-useing the thread, if you care so much for the rules and what this thread is for than cant you ignore them and pay attention the disscusion you asked for?? just an idea....

 

[tickler_n_black]

TIB im not havin a go and if my points on the subject were invalid to the discussion then thats fine but ive been bothered to voice what i think and you seem to be be more focused on the people that are miss-useing the thread, if you care so much for the rules and what this thread is for than cant you ignore them and pay attention the disscusion you asked for?? just an idea....

No man, I read your post and thought you expressed yourself well. What is it that you want me to say to you? I created this thread so folks like you could express why you don't like m/m tickling, and you did so, and your reasons are duly noted, thank you. However, I'm not going to give out medals for participation.

One thing I do wish is that the moderators get a little tighter on the people continuously, (even with warning posts from the head man Myriads) continuously ignoring this thread's rules and coming in here only to fight and disagree and try and either change the subject, or change people's minds, etc. Certain people have been publicly warned, yet they are still pushing to see just how far they can go to attempt to ruin this thread's line of thought.

I mean if this was a "why DO you like m/m thread ONLY" and I came on it and posted why I don't like m/m, etc, etc, and called the thread starter a jerk and the participants "circle jerkers" ... I know for a fact my posts would be deleted within minutes! So, what's the difference with this thread? Why is there so much leeway (spelling) to disrupt this thread? Thanks for listening.

Peace. 🙂

 

[Haribo!.]

No man, I read your post and thought you expressed yourself well. What is it that you want me to say to you? I created this thread so folks like you could express why you don't like m/m tickling, and you did so, and your reasons are duly noted, thank you. However, I'm not going to give out medals for participation.

well a medal would have been nice actually 😛 , well i guess the jobs done then, point made no discussion needed? i was hopeing that making an on topic comment might actually spark the convo and we could actually have this discussion. maybe its just hard with all the arguments about, eh well,

 

[tickler_n_black]

i was hopeing that making an on topic comment might actually spark the convo and we could actually have this discussion. maybe its just hard with all the arguments about, eh well,

You're exactly right.
It IS hard to have the discussion intended with the few coming in here with intent to NOT POST ON TOPIC, with intent to disrupt and disagree with people who are trying to stay focused on one kind of topic. (why the don't like m/m)

They are fully free to start a why they like DO m/m topic, and they wouldn't see me bothering them on threads like that, not once. Can they offer us the same courtesy?

🙂

 

[shadow365]

I am sure this has been several people's opinions but I didn't feel like reading all 12 pages but I figured I would explain myself. I do not have a problem with m/m tickling specifically, but as far as my personal fetish goes I don't feel that those videos/pictures meet the criteria to stimulate whatever part of my brain is in charge of the fetish. They don't disgust me in anyway, they just leave me feeling rather blank, no response at all.

 

[tickler_n_black]

Another reason I personaly hate seeing any m/m tickling is that it seems so gay to me. Too me it just has a very gay ora to it, and for me personaly that is such a disgusting sight and feeling. I'm not going to pretend man on man situations don't "ick me out" because they do.

A couple people tried to convince me that a man tying up another man and tickling him all over his body doesn't mean they are gay or bi ... but I think they really know better. In fact I think the average person agrees (even if they won't say it publicly) that 2 men in a room, one tied and naked, maybe even both naked, and the other fondling his body to cause laughter and reactions, can really be nothing but gay overtones.

So since homosexual scenarios pretty much make me sick to my stomach, for THAT reason I have a very hard time with any m/m tickling stuff. Oh and someone will bring up "what about f/f it's the same thing." Well, no it isn't. Women's personalities and social make up seems to allow them to be more touchy feely without the homosexual aspect of things.

Sure, there ARE flat out lesbians who tie and tickle each other, and you know what? I don't find those clips attractive either (meaning if I know for a fact that both gals are real life 100% lesbians, i don't enjoy seeing them tickle each other).

So this is another reason why I just can't get into, or even simple shrug my shoulders at m/m bondage tickling clips. It's in my core being. Now will I attack threads that are Pro m/m?
No.
But I'm sure as heck entitled to say the things I feel in this thread. Thanks for listening. 🙂

 

[tickledgirl]

I'm not going to pretend man on man situations don't "ick me out" because they do.

Sure, there ARE flat out lesbians who tie and tickle each other, and you know what? I don't find those clips attractive either (meaning if I know for a fact that both gals are real life 100% lesbians, i don't enjoy seeing them tickle each other).

Do f/f situations "ick you out" or are they just not attractive?

(Not trying to make any point, I'm really just asking.)

 

[Haribo!.]

Sure, there ARE flat out lesbians who tie and tickle each other, and you know what? I don't find those clips attractive either (meaning if I know for a fact that both gals are real life 100% lesbians, i don't enjoy seeing them tickle each other).

ide like to discuss this point further, i totally agree with comments about gay ora, it may or may not actually BE gay but it looks gay enuf to put me off my food so thats enuf, but as for f/f with actualy lesbians? im intrested to no more about why you dont like that? i mean if you like two girls tickling eachother than why does it matter if theyre lesbian or not..? is it the idea of it that ruins it for you? so like if you saw a f/f clip and you enjoyed it but then found out the girls in it were full on lesbians would you then not enjoy it just because of that? and if thats the case then are you actually just not a fan of people of the same sex tickling eachother unless theyre strait wether they be men or women? apart from men obviosly arnt your taste regardless....

 

[jk666uk]

ide like to discuss this point further, i totally agree with comments about gay ora, it may or may not actually BE gay but it looks gay enuf to put me off my food so thats enuf, but as for f/f with actualy lesbians? im intrested to no more about why you dont like that? i mean if you like two girls tickling eachother than why does it matter if theyre lesbian or not..? is it the idea of it that ruins it for you? so like if you saw a f/f clip and you enjoyed it but then found out the girls in it were full on lesbians would you then not enjoy it just because of that? and if thats the case then are you actually just not a fan of people of the same sex tickling eachother unless theyre strait wether they be men or women? apart from men obviosly arnt your taste regardless....

good point haribo

 

[tricham]

well said well spoken

Another reason I personaly hate seeing any m/m tickling is that it seems so gay to me. Too me it just has a very gay ora to it, and for me personaly that is such a disgusting sight and feeling. I'm not going to pretend man on man situations don't "ick me out" because they do.

A couple people tried to convince me that a man tying up another man and tickling him all over his body doesn't mean they are gay or bi ... but I think they really know better. In fact I think the average person agrees (even if they won't say it publicly) that 2 men in a room, one tied and naked, maybe even both naked, and the other fondling his body to cause laughter and reactions, can really be nothing but gay overtones.

So since homosexual scenarios pretty much make me sick to my stomach, for THAT reason I have a very hard time with any m/m tickling stuff. Oh and someone will bring up "what about f/f it's the same thing." Well, no it isn't. Women's personalities and social make up seems to allow them to be more touchy feely without the homosexual aspect of things.

Sure, there ARE flat out lesbians who tie and tickle each other, and you know what? I don't find those clips attractive either (meaning if I know for a fact that both gals are real life 100% lesbians, i don't enjoy seeing them tickle each other).

So this is another reason why I just can't get into, or even simple shrug my shoulders at m/m bondage tickling clips. It's in my core being. Now will I attack threads that are Pro m/m?
No.
But I'm sure as heck entitled to say the things I feel in this thread. Thanks for listening. 🙂

& I agree %100

 

[Ano-Nymous]

Ditto.

I don't enjoy f/f or m/m. Either is a huge turnoff here.

Nothing wrong with either, but m/f is all that happens to appeal to me personally, when I actually look. Probably yes, an extension of sexual preferences.

Perhaps those ( few?) who don't view this as sexual are able to perceive it in a more "pure" or platonic light, but I agree with (tricham & TIB )
if you want yet another opinion...

 

[Rekku9]

IMHO, I find m/f OK if I can't see the guy's hairy face. F/f is so much more beautiful because girls tend to smell nice and be soft and cuddly, whereas we smell and look bad.

I have absolutely nothing against homosexuals, I know a lot of them, I've worked with them, but that's where it stops. It disgusts the hell out out of me to see them licking or kissing in public, but I can always look away.

When it comes to m/m tickling, there's no way around it. It's gay. Greatest turn-off there ever was.

Sorry if I hurt someone's feelings. It's just that I seem to put myself in the cameraman's place, and that's when the nausea creeps in.

 

[saratk]

it's frustrating on youtube, because here, if you don't want to see any M/m U JUST don't click the link, on youtube, you type "tickling" in and most of it is one tickle company with all these gross dudes getting their feet tickled..sick.

 

[tickler_n_black]

but as for f/f with actual lesbians? im intrested to no more about why you dont like that? i mean if you like two girls tickling eachother than why does it matter if theyre lesbian or not..? is it the idea of it that ruins it for you? ....

Yeah, I've done some thinking about your question and all I can come up with is that tickling is a sexual thing for me (other than tickling a child briefly, playfully, which I rarely do because it makes me feel strange because tickling is usually such a sexual thing to me)

But the f/f (lesbians mind you) I don't like because lesbian sex and/or relationships turn me off. What straight guy want's to sit there and watch two women (who usually pretty much hate all men) have sex or tickle each other? It always amazed me that a straight guy getting off on such things doesn't seem to realize that the lesbian girls wouldn't give him the time of day, and would not be turned on if they knew the guy was watching. Yet he watches and slaps his monkey around like he's somehow involved in the "scene." Anyway, that's another subject.

Now please understand that I have no qualms with f/f where the participants are straight or maybe even a tad bit bi. It's the full on lesbian (hate men) thing that turns me off. Don't know why. Just does. They are not sexy to me.

With m/m it is so overwhelmingly a gay act to me (tied and tickled) that I just can't enjoy it. Plus I don't feel that men laugh and react as nicely as woman do when tickled. Not even close. At least in a f/m scene a person can check out the woman during the scene. And at least the guy in that scene is probably not gay. By the way I'm not the pro-active lynch mob kind of person against gay people. I'll never march or demonstrate in some anti-gay rally or assault a guy for being gay. In fact I'd do my best to physically protect a gay man if others were abusing him. I don't seek or condone violence against anyone. But on the other hand I will not sit back and say "oh yeah it's cool with me" if asked my opinion.

 

[ViperGTS]

Easy way to say it is: I think it's gay. And by gay, I mean it carries homosexual overtures for me.

Tickling is an intimate physical contact that I just plain don't feel comfortable doing with other men. It's kind of like a slap on the ass...it can be playful or sexual, but either way, it doesn't happen between myself and other guys.

 

[Haribo!.]

TIB, what are your views on this part of what i said?

so if you saw a f/f clip and you enjoyed it but then found out the girls in it were full on lesbians would you then not enjoy it just because of that? ....

do you think you could tell by watching them that they wernt strait? or would you enjoy it until you learned that they were lesbians after? is it down to the way they act or the fact that they arnt strait females?

 

[tickledgirl]

What straight guy want's to sit there and watch two women (who usually pretty much hate all men) have sex or tickle each other?

You've evidently got issues with lesbians. Maybe you'd be happier if you worked them out? (Or not, none of my business.)

Anyway, here's the definition of the term: "a female who experiences a sexual attraction toward and responsiveness to other females." Nothing about hating men there.

From my own experience I can tell you that none of the lesbians I know hate men. (And for what it's worth, I've known a couple of straight gals who do, so make of that what you want.) I'm sure a few do, and I'm sure there are a few lesbians who are racist, or don't like chocolate ice cream, or have other odd predilections. But I assure, it's quite possible to accept a group of people even though you have no intention of having sex with them. (Come to think of it, I bet you're a great example of that. Your post makes it pretty clear that you wouldn't want to have sex with a guy, but you don't hate guys, do you?)

As for why not all straight guys feel the way you do, you'd have to check with them. But I'd guess it's at least partly because they realize that lesbians don't all hate men.

 

[tickledgirl]

do you think you could tell by watching them that they wernt strait? or would you enjoy it until you learned that they were lesbians after? is it down to the way they act or the fact that they arnt strait females?

I'm guessing here, but I think he's assuming that learning that they're lesbians means learning that they hate him. So he'd enjoy it if he thought they were okay with him, but would not enjoy it once he thought they hated him.

I can see that. His assumption's wrong. But if it were right, I can see being upset and turned off by someone's irrational hatred towards me. Even if I'd thought they were hot before.

 

[jk666uk]

yes I am

 

[tickler_n_black]

You've evidently got issues with lesbians. Maybe you'd be happier if you worked them out? (Or not, none of my business.)

Anyway, here's the definition of the term: "a female who experiences a sexual attraction toward and responsiveness to other females." Nothing about hating men there.

From my own experience I can tell you that none of the lesbians I know hate men. (And for what it's worth, I've known a couple of straight gals who do, so make of that what you want.) I'm sure a few do, and I'm sure there are a few lesbians who are racist, or don't like chocolate ice cream, or have other odd predilections. But I assure, it's quite possible to accept a group of people even though you have no intention of having sex with them. (Come to think of it, I bet you're a great example of that. Your post makes it pretty clear that you wouldn't want to have sex with a guy, but you don't hate guys, do you?)

As for why not all straight guys feel the way you do, you'd have to check with them. But I'd guess it's at least partly because they realize that lesbians don't all hate men.

🙂
Tickledgirl, I appreciate you wanting to share your thoughts on ice cream, lesbians and racists but.... please READ the title of this thread again and then ... tell us what it is you DON'T like about m/m tickling. This thread is for people to tell what they DON'T like about m/m tickling. Thanks.

 

[tickler_n_black]

and I get very excited creating videos that depict that. Sometimes I just film my hands doing the tickling. Sometimes I wear gloves or even false fingernails to hide it...
Does tickling your own foot and watching it being done count as gayability?

TklTklTkl,
Personally no, I don't think such an act makes you gay. I think it's a bit strange perhaps, to film yourself tickling your own foot with fake nails or gloves but... hey, to each his own. But it doesn't make you gay to tickle your own foot.

By the way, please READ the title of this thread again and then ... tell us what it is you DON'T like about m/m tickling. This thread is for people to express what they DON'T like about m/m tickling. Please stay on topic or start another thread. Thanks.
🙂

 

[Cosmo_ac]

what i don't like about m/m tickling...

What i don't like about m/m tickling is the ignorence people seem to show in believing that if you do enjoy m/m tickling your gay.

What i don't like about m/m tickling is the incredibly obvious double standard that makes no sense that it is believed that two straight girls can engage in f/f tickling and be straight but two straight guys who engage in m/m tickling are labled gay.

What i don't like about m/m tickling is the bigitry and homophobia that seems to be brought out of people whenever the subject comes up.

What i don't like about m/m tickling the most, is the fact that we need to have threads like this in the year 2006.

And thats what i don't like about m/m tickling

 

[ViperGTS]

I feel like I am being called a bigot.

🙁