White House WILL NOT release Bin Laden photos ....

[kis123]

The members of the United Humans for Dissemination of Unknown History, while numbering in the thousands, must remain anonymous to protect themselves from the persecution of the misguided masses, or as they refer to them, "people who don't put gum wrappers in their cheeks to prevent their fillings from picking up government mind control signals".

Nay, the battle will be waged with posts on internet forums, with scraps of paper pinned to the bulletin boards of local liquor stores, with coded messages written in yellow 'disappearing ink' in snowbanks.

They will not be silent.
They will not be dissuaded.
and They will NOT be ignored.

Never heard of United Humans for Dissemination of Unknown History....is that a real group?

If they're so secretive, why won't they be silent?

I'm sure your answers will be just as illuminating as all of your responses.

Can't wait!

 

[natural tickler]

kis, honey, please tell me why you're so distrusting of the government??

and also please tell me how showing his pictures will not cause more anti-American sentiment??

all it will do is increase the hostlity between us and our enemies...better to let sleeping dogs lie

 

[Wolf]

Okie Dokie then..

Well good morning to all of my dissenters; looks like I've gained a couple of new ones since last night.....awesome!

Here's your morning news; hope you've had your coffee.....

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/europe/10/26/binladen.will/

-Notice the date as well as an explanation as to why Al Quaeda just might have incentive to back up the US’ story.

http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/south_asia/2135473.stm

Notice the date as well as the source

http://edition.cnn.com/2002/WORLD/asiapcf/central/10/06/karzai.binladen/

Another viable news source

And let’s not leave all the fun to the liberal news sources….

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,41576,00.html

And something a little more current…..

http://tribune.com.pk/story/164930/iran-claims-osama-died-of-illness-long-before-us-raid/

Let the fun begin!

Fair enough...

Where is the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of the claims made in these reports?

Otherwise, they're all just lying to promote their own agendas...

right?

 

[kis123]

Hey, give a guy a break here, it takes some doing to rise to the level of
"I'm rubber, you're glue" arguments and the caustic wit of your smilies, but I'm tryin'....

Now you're really going out of your way so early in the daytime no less. What's the matter? Running out of material?

Yes, yes, we all care about you. We're all obsessed with you. We're all paying attention to you, ok? It's all about you. You're the victim of a throng of stalkers, like in a Lifetime Movie. We all care that much.

No, I'm not the victim......you are the one who brought that mess up right along with your other dime store psychology. Keep up with your stuff okay?

Wow... just... wow. What name(s) did I call you? And I won't bother with the cataclysmic irony of you talking about dignity, respect, and graciousness.
To even address that would be risking a hellacious migraine.

Cmon' I'm not even going to waste my time with that. Everyone who's still even bothering to read this thread can see the name calling. Really now Wolf, this is trite, even for you.

I didn't say your day was empty. Or your life was empty. I said without a good indignant snit, your day would seem empty. As for knowing anything major about you, I never claimed to. But I can make a pretty good guess at a few of the minor things...one of them is, you don't bother reading something all the way through before you start shrieking in defense.

Indignant snit? Similar to what you have been doing for days? If you don't agree with what I believe, I'm way cool with that. I'm not here to convince anyone. But you have gone out of your way and I'm pretty sure what the reasoning behind it is but I know if I let you keep typing long enough, you'll do it for me and I can save myself some valuable time. Keep it up because why??

The more you do it, the better I feel.

Oh...Snap? Or at least it would be if I'd claimed you drank coffee. I said for you, indignation was like coffee to some people. You were too busy being indignant and loading up on resentment to notice it was an analogy. Now, do I need to post a definition of an analogy, or am I going to have to defend myself against charges I said something dirty?

You don't have to defend yourself against anything...that is unless you feel the need to which is glaringly obvious. And if anyone is resentful and full of vitriol it is you. You spew venom with every post and have gotten so far away from the OP I'm surprised you don't need a map to find your way back.

No one here doubts that. It's too evident that this has a lot to do with you feeling good.

No doubt that this has a lot to do with your inability to prove me wrong (in the context of this thread). I'll get back to that momentarily......

The concept of irrefutable proof, that you wield like a cardboard sword with "EXCALIBUR" scrawled on it, is based on a simple premise. No matter the proof offered, you can refute it. Since you can find any basis to refute it, it cannot ever be irrefutable.

Watch how this works. Let me provide a hypothetical scenario. Suppose I were to say:

kis123 has a secret NetFlix account under a fake name, and her queues are filled with nothing but Steve Guttenberg movies and episodes of "Charles in Charge".

kis123 sneaks out under cover of darkness every Thursday night, rearranges her neighbors' lawn furniture, and then, before dawn, rearranges it back to its original configuration.

kis123 has a large collection of Precious Moments figurines on which she has inexplicably painted tiny little Hitler mustaches. These are kept in a secret storage locker, the location of which she refuses to reveal.

Now...prove irrefutably that anything I've stated above is wrong.

Okay, glad you asked:

1-kis does not have a nexflix account; since you created the scenario, it would then be up to you to prove that I do

2-There is something that I do every Thursday night but it has nothing to do with lawn furniture. But if you could produce photos and vids that I moved the neighbor's lawn furniture, then you'd have irrefutable proof now wouldn't you?

3-Don't even know what Precious Moments figurines are. But again, if you had PHOTOS OR VIDS that I had these things, then that would be IRREFUTABLE PROOF right?

So your point is although you can create very strange scenarios, none of them mean anything without proof right? Well damn, I just wondered why the US government is refusing to provide such.

This has nothing to do with hypotheticals; this has everything to do with hypothesis:

If Osama Bin Laden was killed May 2, 2011 by Navy Seals, then produce the proof that it happened. Simple hypothesis......yet.........

I can make up any ridiculous 'fact' or scenario I wish, and any denial you make can be called a lie. Any proof that you offer to support that denial can be refuted. Until you open the storage locker and show us the Precious Moments figurines that don't exist, The Conspiracy continues.
Why won't you just tell us where the storage locker is, and put this all to rest?

See my response above; that about covers it.

No, the other members of the forum that you accuse in this and other threads of persecuting you, of making personal attacks, of being obsessed with you, they're all real.

Well, it's about time you admitted it even though you're just playing around because......

Well, I assume they're real. I don't have irrefutable proof. They could be sock puppets, I guess. As for the hapless 7-11 and DMV clerks that I imagine you'd be taking your frustrations out on, without this forum to vent your indignation to the world? They are imaginary. But I can have empathy for imaginary characters. I cried at the end of Charlotte's Web.

My indignation? The only one being indignant is you. I have calmly stated my case, stood on my beliefs, and remained in place. You, on the other hand have done all but. If what I think and how I feel is so insignificant to you, why on earth have you invested so much time with the name calling, jokes, and insults? Allow me to be crazy all by my lil' ol' self if that's all there is. But it isn't and you simply just can't detach and allow differing POVs.

What is it about people feeling the need to pretend that strangers arguing on the internet is something more dangerous, more dramatic, more important than it really is?

It isn't and that was my point. But that completely got away form you in your quest to shout me down and drown me out.

Except tell the truth. You can't believe that they would tell the truth about anything.

At this point, hell no I can't. They've had plenty of time but alas, they shut the door and won't verify when that man died. Hey, I split the difference with you; Osama's dead. But when....oh when.....did the man die?

Wow. Thousands, huh? I would pay cash money to see that gathering on the Washington Mall.

Cash money.

Yes dear, thousands.

I wouldn't want you to go broke so easily....keep your money. It's not worth that much anymore anyway or have you heard?

Oh, and keeping in line with the OP......

Got proof??

 

[kis123]

Fair enough...

Where is the IRREFUTABLE PROOF of the claims made in these reports?

Otherwise, they're all just lying to promote their own agendas...

right?

They conveniently did that lying almost a decade ago?

Cmon' Wolf.......

I was hoping you could provide a better response similar to the colorful ones you've been providing for pages and pages.

Besides, when it comes to government and politics, they ALL lie for their own agendas.

Provide IRREFUTABLE PROOF that they lied 10 years ago Wolf. While you're at it, provide IRREFUTABLE PROOF that the US isn't lying now.

Can you?

 

[kis123]

kis, honey, please tell me why you're so distrusting of the government??

and also please tell me how showing his pictures will not cause more anti-American sentiment??

all it will do is increase the hostlity between us and our enemies...better to let sleeping dogs lie

With all due respect NT:

If you truly knew the history behind your government (or any government at that matter) you wouldn't be asking me that question. The history that's between old dusty books in the library that no one hopes you bother reading.

Since when did the US government give a damn about anti-US sentiment? Pretty much half the world hates us but they tolerate us when they need aid and assistance. What makes you think that we'll score any brownie points by hiding proof that Osama died when they said the way they said?

Besides we're the big bad United States of America right? Why should we care what those other nations think? Isn't it all about truth, justice, and the American way? Isn't that what the word really wants and aspires to? Then why should we care what anyone else thinks when no matter what they'll be on our doorstep sucking up resources that can easily be used to help domestically?

And speaking of that "justice" if they were close enough to Osama to kill him unarmed, they were close enough to capture him and bring him to the US for some real justice, right?

All they had to do was show proof and none of us would be in this thread. Instead, they punked out and expected Americans to do as usual; believe them and go back to sleep or watch some more reality tv and entertainment. Why care what's going on behind your back by your government when we have Snookie, Lindsay Lohan, and Charlie Sheen shoved in our faces 24/7?

 

[Wolf]

Never heard of United Humans for Dissemination of Unknown History....is that a real group?

If they're so secretive, why won't they be silent?

I'm sure your answers will be just as illuminating as all of your responses.

Can't wait!

How's this for 'illumination'?

United Humans for Dissemination of Unknown History

The problem with being so self-satisfied, so indignant, and so damn RIGHT about everything?

You lose your sense of humor.

 

[kis123]

How's this for 'illumination'?

United Humans for Dissemination of Unknown History

The problem with being so self-satisfied, so indignant, and so damn RIGHT about everything?

You lose your sense of humor.

Well, I never said I hold the key to all knowledge; I also said I never heard of such a group.

What is your point? Another attempt to ridicule me? It didn't work....at least it didn't for me. Went clean over my head........you know I'm not that bright.

Remember you're not hurling jokes and insults; that's just my persecution complex and my runaway imagination at work.

It's almost amazing how you contradict yourself

But in the interest in keeping in line with the topic matter:

Got proof?

 

[GQguy]

Regardless of what any doubter's say....whether they be a ticklephile the Taliban the U.S. military or Al Qaeda.....we are all living in a post Osama Bin Laden world. Whether they like it or not. No point in arguing.

:Strong arguments for U.S. withdrawal from Afghanistan are coming. Al Qaeda is without leadership and many lower level individuals dream working feverishly to fill the void. Some in Al Qaeda after hearing of their champion being killed in front of his family are wondering if such a fate is imminent for them and whether this is the life for them. The children of OBL are lost and truly traumatized. Some are even accusing the president of wrongly executing an unarmed OBL. The Taliban is reevaluating their relationship with Al Qaeda....it is because of their allegiance to Bin Laden (not Al Qaeda) that they lost control of their country after all (20 years of hard work down the drain)....Some U.S. troops will be out of a job and the blank check that the U.S. tax payer has given to the military and it's contractors can finally(will be) taken back. Soldiers/Marines/Airmen/Sailors will find themselves without a job shortly.

Ask any of the individuals I mentioned above if Osama Bin Laden is gone....and you'll realize that the answer really doesn't matter if you're already living in a post OBL world.

GQ

 

[venray]

Regardless of what any doubter's say....whether they be a ticklephile the Taliban the U.S. military or Al Qaeda.....we are all living in a post Osama Bin Laden world. Whether they like it or not.

Which in the long run means nothing. Things will be just as bad without him. he was only one man with many ready to continue where he left off...

 

[GQguy]

Which in the long run means nothing. Things will be just as bad without him. he was only one man with many ready to continue where he left off...

"Just as bad" is relative. I spoke about specific changes that are coming about as we now do live in a post Osama Bin Laden world. These changes are reality and matter of fact and a direct result of us living in a post Osama Bin Laden world. I'm a pilot with a background in engineering and management....i'm neither an intel agent nor an expert on the middle east like some of my friends are. So I can't and won't say "things are better" or "things are worse". I can however say with 100% certainty that the world has changed for all of the parties connected to Osama Bin Laden. Namely the U.S. military, Al Qaeda, the Taliban, Osama's family, defense contractors. For them there is no need to see a photo because the changes are VERY real. Read my post again and you'll see what I mean as I addressed only those parties. Of course the effects on these groups reverberates around the world.

GQ

 

[Capnmad]

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--Newt Gingrich

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Trump added he will continue to press the issue because, "If it were true, it'd be the greatest scam in the history of this country."