A question about tied toes...

[C.K. Storyteller]

I'm just curious if having the lee's toes tied for a foot tickling session is strictly a "ler" preference, or are there lee's out there who would enjoy that?

It seems such a rarity in videos, and quite complicated to pull off in real life, so maybe its more of a fantasy than anything else.

So, I guess I have two questions...

Lee's : Do you enjoy having your toes tied, if its ever happened? If not, do you think you'd enjoy it?

Ler's : Have you encountered success with it? If so, what works?

 

[cloudgazer2k]

as a 'lee, i love it. it makes my feet a bit more vulnerable to attack and exposes my feet to more tickle techniques.

as a 'ler, kind of the same thing. it makes her feet more accessible, and i like the look of tied toes. normally, i just tie the big toes together and back with some soft string. it's only on my most evil of moods that i tie each toe back. combine that with some baby oil and pipe cleaners for the toes, and you have one squirmy, giggly 'lee.

 

[Redmage]

You said this was complicated, so you may not be talking about the same method that I use, which is exceedingly simple: tie the 'lee's ankles together, then use a soft shoelace or ribbon to tie the big toes together.

I'm guessing that you're talking about tying the toes individually back to some solid support such as a set of stocks. That is complicated, and in my experience seldom works very well. The method I use can give similar or better immobilization, and I know several 'lees who quite like it.

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

Redmage, I was referring to it in general, having not had much experience in the area.

The one time I tried, it lasted all of 2 minutes before I was told it felt like she was losing circulation, so we aborted immediately.

I know I'm missing something, and I'm glad you caught the thread. You seem, in my eyes, anyway, to be the expert on all things in this area.

 

[Libertine]

What They Unaccountably Neglected to Teach You in Cub Scouts

First, tie the ankles together, with lots of wraps around said ankles to spread out the rope pressure and allow circulation, always a good thing.

Then tie the big toes together with a thinner, soft cord; see previous sentence, substituting 'toes' for 'ankles'

Make sure about 18" of cord is left free after this step.

Then loop this leftover ropetail between the ankles below the ankle rope, passing it up and around said rope and forward between the ankles again.

Pull gently on the 'toes rope' using the ankle rope as a fulcrum,which will bend the toes back.

Make sure the tension and angle/degree of foot flex are comfotable for your lee, and tie off the free ends of the toes rope to the ankle rope..

This can be a bid fiddly and injurious to both toe and foot circulation if not done correctly, so come to the Bondage 101 Seminar Kittentoes and I may well be giving at NEST, and your lee will never suffer from Purple Digits or gangrene again.

 

[DimpleToes]

not sure..never had it done to me personally..but not sure if I would like it with beeing so tickly..yikes

 

[P[a]pi]

Well, my girlfriend doesn't like having her toes tied together. She doesn't like how it feels, but she still lets me do it. We have gotten toe-cuffs recently and she likes those more. I like them more as well. She likes nothing on her toes the most.

 

[The Last Laugh]

The one time I tried, it lasted all of 2 minutes before I was told it felt like she was losing circulation, so we aborted immediately.

That's why I don't use that technique in my videos quite as often as I'd like. Some ticklees have no problem with it, or at least can tolerate it, but many others find it too uncomfortable after a minute or two. Toe bondage is really neat when it works, but it's no good if the ticklee feels the discomfort in her toes more than she does the actual tickling.

Recently I've been experimenting with special leather toe cuffs with metal buckles. Some ticklees still find them uncomfortable, but so far I've have more success with them than, say, with shoelaces. I guess it's because they're wider than shoelaces, thus spreading the tension over a wider surface (they don't bite into the toes as much), and they don't get tighter when the ticklee's feet try to move around.

Still, even though the cuffs are an improvement, I have yet to find the perfect toe bondage technique, and there are some ticklees with whom I can't do it at all.

 

[Redmage]

The one time I tried, it lasted all of 2 minutes before I was told it felt like she was losing circulation, so we aborted immediately.

I know I'm missing something, and I'm glad you caught the thread. You seem, in my eyes, anyway, to be the expert on all things in this area.

I know folks who are better than I am, but maybe I can help. Can you tell me how you were doing it that time?

 

[LindyHopper]

I like the technique of tying the ankles to a surface (such as in a face-down position on a bed, so the tops of the feet lay against the mattress), and then tying the big toes to the rope attached to the ankles. It seems like this minimizes freedom of movement, maximizing comfort. Tying the toes back while the feet sit flexed enables you to point and flex from the ankles, making loss of circulation and/or injury more likely.

As I 'lee, I very much enjoy having my toes tied. It makes them much more vulnerable to tickling!

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

I know folks who are better than I am, but maybe I can help. Can you tell me how you were doing it that time?

At the time (the one time I tried it), I had tied the ankles, and tried to tie an extra rope around the shins...I then tied the big toes together, with the intent on securing the toes back to the rope around the shins.

I didn't even get that far, as the discomfort started as soon as the toes were tied, which was enough for us to pull the plug.

I don't think I'd try it again (mainly the lee's decision 🙂 ), but I'm just curious as to what most find successful.

 

[Redmage]

At the time (the one time I tried it), I had tied the ankles, and tried to tie an extra rope around the shins...I then tied the big toes together, with the intent on securing the toes back to the rope around the shins.

I didn't even get that far, as the discomfort started as soon as the toes were tied, which was enough for us to pull the plug.

There are enough possible factors in a case like this that I can't diagnose the problem without more information. For example, do you remember what kind of cord you used on the lady's toes, and what method you used to tie them?

For what it's worth, I've met 'lees who could struggle out of toe bondage, but I've never met one who found it intolerably uncomfortable, at least not when it's done properly.

 

[Libertine]

Ankle and Toe Cuffs

You could also try this http://www.affordable-leather.co.uk/item--Ankle-to-Toe-Binder--CUF15.html excellent device, which is made by a friend of mine, and costs less than $40.00 American. He also has a lot of other well-designed stuff in his online catalogue, and I very much recommend the quality and reasonable prices. The British pound is about $2.00 US, so just double his prices for the dollar equivalent.

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

There are enough possible factors in a case like this that I can't diagnose the problem without more information. For example, do you remember what kind of cord you used on the lady's toes, and what method you used to tie them?

For what it's worth, I've met 'lees who could struggle out of toe bondage, but I've never met one who found it intolerably uncomfortable, at least not when it's done properly.

Redmage,

I was using shoelaces, and just tied a basic knot. I'm guessing it was either too tight, or the pulling back to the shins proved too uncomfortable.



Libertine / Jon,

Great find. Thanks for the info 🙂

 

[Redmage]

I was using shoelaces, and just tied a basic knot. I'm guessing it was either too tight, or the pulling back to the shins proved too uncomfortable.

I use a soft, flat cotton shoelace; or a ribbon made out of rayon, silk, or velvet. The idea is "soft and wide." I use the same tie on the toes that I apply to the ankles, usually something like this. The advantage of that tie is that you can adjust the tightness very precisely, but once it's tied it won't tighten further.

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

Just wanted to thank all those who posted on this thread again for their advice. Its not something I actively do anymore, but its still good information to have.

Feel free to continue to share more ideas and thoughts on the matter.

 

[Diego]

Expert opinion

That's why I don't use that technique in my videos quite as often as I'd like. Some ticklees have no problem with it, or at least can tolerate it, but many others find it too uncomfortable after a minute or two. Toe bondage is really neat when it works, but it's no good if the ticklee feels the discomfort in her toes more than she does the actual tickling.

Recently I've been experimenting with special leather toe cuffs with metal buckles. Some ticklees still find them uncomfortable, but so far I've have more success with them than, say, with shoelaces. I guess it's because they're wider than shoelaces, thus spreading the tension over a wider surface (they don't bite into the toes as much), and they don't get tighter when the ticklee's feet try to move around.

Still, even though the cuffs are an improvement, I have yet to find the perfect toe bondage technique, and there are some ticklees with whom I can't do it at all.

I agree! I have seen to many clips and pics where the big toes are blue from to tight bondage! My wife tie my big toes with the laces of her sneakers. She do this taking care that she would not ruin my sensitivity.

Any other suggestions on how to secure the big toes keeping them ticklish and sensitive?

Did someone experience with some kind of toe rings attached to the stocks?
Diego

 

[doctortickler]

On a personal note, I'm not into toe tieing as I like to tickle between each toe and if a couple of them are tied it meens that they cannot be tickled so easily! If you where to say tieing the legs down so those feet cannot move, then you would be talking. I like to have full access to those feet without her being able to pull away from my mercilous tickling!

 

[Sleepy Jean]

It's never happened but I am sure it would be enjoyable, I love being tied up

It is quite enjoyable. If you love being tied up, especially the restricted movement, having your big toes tied is quite an experience. Getting your feet tickled while unable to even wiggle them is a weird and wonderful feeling. Try it.

Love,
Jean

 

[CMartin]

It is quite enjoyable. If you love being tied up, especially the restricted movement, having your big toes tied is quite an experience. Getting your feet tickled while unable to even wiggle them is a weird and wonderful feeling. Try it.

Love,
Jean

I've never had the opportunity but always wanted to try it....as a ler or lee or both. 🙂

 

[Sleepy Jean]

I've never had the opportunity but always wanted to try it....as a ler or lee or both. 🙂

Toe bondage can be effective and not cause discomfort. It requires very long laces wrapped a couple times around the toes and finished with a cinch knot. The main problem I have with getting my toes tied is that because my husband's fingers are so close to my feet and toes, he accidentally tickles me as he's tying my toes together. ("Stop squirming, will you!")

The feeling of helplessness is for me what makes tickling so arousing. It's only natural that I love having my toes tied.

Love,
Jean

 

[C.K. Storyteller]

I don't know why, but I'm amazed at how many people are such fans of this practice. I guess I just assumed it was a video thing only.

Thanks to everyone for their feedback.

 

[steph]

LOVE it.
XOXO

Lee's : Do you enjoy having your toes tied, if its ever happened? If not, do you think you'd enjoy it?

 

[aurora5150]

NO! no way in hell. having things between my toes drives me nuts! i can't even wear flip flops for having that thing inbetween my toes. i would have to be completely imobile for a ler to even have the chance to do that to me. drives me nuts!

 

[Sleepy Jean]

NO! no way in hell. having things between my toes drives me nuts! i can't even wear flip flops for having that thing inbetween my toes. i would have to be completely imobile for a ler to even have the chance to do that to me. drives me nuts!

I hear you, babe. It takes all the self-control I have to stay still enough to have my husband bind my toes. Once my toes are tied, however, and he begins torturing my feet, the wait was worth it.

Love,
Jean