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Oh. And if this isn't The pot calling the kettle *****.
Oh. And if this isn't The pot calling the kettle *****.
Hehe. /thread
wow this thread has kept going eh? all I wanna say is....if you dislike the forum..leave. Don't hang around and insult everyone....
I am here, talking as a normal young woman. This site is open to all kinds of things, and if you don't want to participate, that is respected. However, mocking the site and all who enjoy it is not okay.
go build your awesome tk site, and leave us alone.
thanks 🙂
I am here, talking as a normal young woman. This site is open to all kinds of things, and if you don't want to participate, that is respected. However, mocking the site and all who enjoy it is not okay.
go build your awesome tk site, and leave us alone.
thanks 🙂
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Another full moon??? Already???
While I respect your right to your opinion, I disagree with the vast majority of it. I also have to wonder if you've ever even considered the possibility that you could be incorrect about something. The attitude you exhibit here would suggest not.
BTW, I'm a happily married woman, into tickling, married to my tickle partner (who I met through the online community), involved in the community and very appreciaive of what the TMF has to offer. Is it perfect for women (or anyone else)? Of course not. There ain't no such animal. But, it's a damn sight better than most similar places on the net.
Perhaps part of your difficulty comes in the insistance that everyone see the world through your eyes. We each have our own different views. While that can prove inconvenient at times, it's what makes the world a beautiful place. How boring it would be if we were all the same!
While I respect your right to your opinion, I disagree with the vast majority of it. I also have to wonder if you've ever even considered the possibility that you could be incorrect about something. The attitude you exhibit here would suggest not.
BTW, I'm a happily married woman, into tickling, married to my tickle partner (who I met through the online community), involved in the community and very appreciaive of what the TMF has to offer. Is it perfect for women (or anyone else)? Of course not. There ain't no such animal. But, it's a damn sight better than most similar places on the net.
Perhaps part of your difficulty comes in the insistance that everyone see the world through your eyes. We each have our own different views. While that can prove inconvenient at times, it's what makes the world a beautiful place. How boring it would be if we were all the same!
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Okay, let me take another try at this.
I said:
In reply you said:
I don’t know how you read cynicism into my words, all I did was speak to the issues that past dating sites have faced. I got some of the information from one of the failed sites owners, who had invested a lot of time and effort into creating the site. Simply put he couldn’t reach critical mass to make the site an effective match making place. The people were too few, and too spread out. It simply didn’t work.
For a dating site to function you need numbers, and concentration of those numbers in locations. Our community is too small and spread out to offer those things. So for now, dating sites would need to focus on a bigger gathering aspect then just tickling.
The last thing I desire in this life are followers. I prefer people to make up their own minds after listening to information and making solid personal judgments based upon it. So I’m speaking for no one here, but myself, and the point of my first answer to you was to provide you with some of the information that I have gained having run this community hug for a decade, and to point out how some of your statements might not have gone down with some folks who are here.
Are there folks who feel uncomfortable with the TMF’s ads and sexual atmosphere? Yes. No questions. The site, as it is is not going to be a good fir for everyone. But There are reasons why there are not ‘places’ for them out there also. In the current world, such places as you describe, and hope to build, have not been able to economically or demographically survive. The numbers don’t work out. This is a sad thing, but part of the reality of the world. Would I like to run a TMF with no ads? No question. Can I? No.
What I can do is try to make the forum, which does manage to survive in the world we have, the best one possible for as many people as possible. And over the years we’ve done very well in catching that goal.
There are dozens of things I’d love to be able to do here that would improve the site. But there are fiscal and social limits on what can be done. And one of the big lessons of my decade here, was learning to operate in them. The web is littered with the ghosts of sites that didn’t manage the long haul. I miss many of them.
You said:
And I hope that you are around for a good long time. You in you mid-20’s were born in the mid 80’s and becoming aware of the world in a real way around 1995. You have grown to adulthood in a world that has always had a web. And that single fact makes you, and the rest of your generation different from those that came before like my own.
One of the things that the web did for your generation is opened up sexuality for you in a way no generation before ever had. When you were 12 or 13 and started to figure out that tickling turned you on, you were able to find out rather simply that many others felt the same with a simple web search. In one stroke you ended the isolation that many who share your fetish from decades before you labored under for years, feeling as if they were the only one and feeling wrong and different.
Your generation got a leg up on their sexual confidence and identity unlike any before. You could start to explore and do at an age when those before you were still trying to figure out if they were not sick somehow. That’s an advantage.
So I ‘m glad that you plan to be about and speak up for, and to your own sexual views. That is valuable.
I said:
You replied:
From my read of what you are saying here, am I correct to believe that you feel a sub group of women active on the site (which you term tickle-prostitutes etc) have somehow ruined it for all women on the forum by creating some form of ideal in the male users heads? Was this the point you wanted to make?
I want to point out that my statement was in reply to a quote from your first letter where you said:
Most of the women here ARE not “tickle-porn actresses, or tickle-prostitues”. MOST of the women here are average every day people whom you might meet in the street, or at the grocery. Using such a broad brush as you have is a true disservice to the many many women of our community who post here often. It is these many women, the MAJORITY of the women here, that I felt you insulted with your statement.
I said:
You asked:
Examples? Sure. When we started, like almost every fetish site on the net the ratio of men to women was a ton to 1. Like most adult orient sites women simply did not feel secure speaking up or being active. So we took steps to make things different. We made a point of finding female moderators who took the role of community leaders in showing other women that they were welcome here. We sat down hard on the people who treated women poorly whenever we found them, and made sure that when issues came up they were dealt with quickly.
We supplied the platform for local gatherings to organize and start to meet. This put real people in face to face interaction, and let women comfortably enter the fetish in places and times of their own choosing where they felt safe.
We encouraged female writers and artists, and always have supported all mixes of tickling never segregating any one type into a ghetto where it was left apart. You can find f/f f/m m/f and m/m material in all our media forums together and treated as equally valid and having a right to be here. And we sat on people who tried to drive any one sort away.
All these things were done to make the TMF more inclusive and open to members. No mater their gender or sexual likes.
Your issues with the media sections, in my opinion, are based around an idea of what you feel they should be. I won’t try to assume what that is, but based on this quote from your OP:
I get an idea where you are coming from. It’s a take on the sex positive concept that was first introduced in the 70’s and later morphed into a few different branches of sexual identity conception in the 80’s and 90’s.
I don’t think that people here are ‘out of control sex drives’ I think that many who come here would like to find a partner where tickling was a regular part of their greater relationship. That is their ideal. However finding partners who share ones enthusiasm for things can be tricky, and its not limited to tickling.
Like anal sex? There are partners out there for you, but not every partner is going to be up for it. Like some over the knee spanking? Some partners will happily put you over their laps and redden your ass, but some will balk at causing you any pain and cannot do it. And so on.
So the TMF’s media sections become stand-ins for people who can’t find it in their real life. The read a story, watch a clip, look at some art, and close their eyes and use their minds to go to a place they wish they were and enjoy a moist moment.
Media can and always will serve people who lack a real outlet for whatever reason. And the TMF has become a natural place for people to gather tickling media at.
This is not a way people separate tickling from themselves, but strive to keep it a part of their life.
Remember everyone does not have the luxury of discarding a person whom they match well with in almost every way. Relationships are often compromises between what we desire and what we can find.
Will people use the site to ‘hook up?’ yes indeed. Just like they use face book, e-harmony and any other number of web hubs. With so many of our members being in their 20’s is it no surprise that many are not ready to commit to anything, and just want sexual fun? Later in life finding something more becomes a goal, and people start to look for ways to do that.
You closed with this:
Ok, other then Addie whome you singled out, could you please make me a short list of the other women who post here that you consider to be porn chicks and prostitutes? Show me half a dozen. Just six.
Then as an exercise make me a list of women who post here who are not those things. Make it as long as you like, but make it at least six also.
I understand that you feel that the male focused media is degrading and insulting to women. That is a view and complaint that has been the center of anti-media arguments for a long time.
Perhaps the issue here is that your perspective is different then many members. Let me try one last thing.
There are two types of tickle fans out there
Group 1) The Sadists
Group 2) the Sensualists
Group one is much much bigger then group two.
Group two sees tickling as a form of sensual sex play, a form of pleasant stimulation. It’s done in a form that is not unlike oral sex. It’s an action taken to give pleasure to the partner through stimulation that feels good.
In this view we have no degradation. It’s a consensual sex positive activity of mutual pleasure.
Then we have group One
Tickling can be a form of sadism. It’s deriving enjoyment from the infliction of suffering upon another.
By the very definition of in this view, there will be a degree or aspect of degradation in any media involving the act. Can’t escape it, someone is being used. Done to. Made to suffer for another’s pleasure.
Part of the issue you may have here is that you are in group two looking at group one.
Group one is the big group that pays the freight. They are the ones the ads are made for, It’s really that simple. You might not like how they approach the fetish, but it is a real one, and also the majority view.
I welcome debate. It’s one reason the site is here. I hope that your evening has been a good one.
Myriads
I said:
In reply you said:
I don’t know how you read cynicism into my words, all I did was speak to the issues that past dating sites have faced. I got some of the information from one of the failed sites owners, who had invested a lot of time and effort into creating the site. Simply put he couldn’t reach critical mass to make the site an effective match making place. The people were too few, and too spread out. It simply didn’t work.
For a dating site to function you need numbers, and concentration of those numbers in locations. Our community is too small and spread out to offer those things. So for now, dating sites would need to focus on a bigger gathering aspect then just tickling.
The last thing I desire in this life are followers. I prefer people to make up their own minds after listening to information and making solid personal judgments based upon it. So I’m speaking for no one here, but myself, and the point of my first answer to you was to provide you with some of the information that I have gained having run this community hug for a decade, and to point out how some of your statements might not have gone down with some folks who are here.
Are there folks who feel uncomfortable with the TMF’s ads and sexual atmosphere? Yes. No questions. The site, as it is is not going to be a good fir for everyone. But There are reasons why there are not ‘places’ for them out there also. In the current world, such places as you describe, and hope to build, have not been able to economically or demographically survive. The numbers don’t work out. This is a sad thing, but part of the reality of the world. Would I like to run a TMF with no ads? No question. Can I? No.
What I can do is try to make the forum, which does manage to survive in the world we have, the best one possible for as many people as possible. And over the years we’ve done very well in catching that goal.
There are dozens of things I’d love to be able to do here that would improve the site. But there are fiscal and social limits on what can be done. And one of the big lessons of my decade here, was learning to operate in them. The web is littered with the ghosts of sites that didn’t manage the long haul. I miss many of them.
You said:
And I hope that you are around for a good long time. You in you mid-20’s were born in the mid 80’s and becoming aware of the world in a real way around 1995. You have grown to adulthood in a world that has always had a web. And that single fact makes you, and the rest of your generation different from those that came before like my own.
One of the things that the web did for your generation is opened up sexuality for you in a way no generation before ever had. When you were 12 or 13 and started to figure out that tickling turned you on, you were able to find out rather simply that many others felt the same with a simple web search. In one stroke you ended the isolation that many who share your fetish from decades before you labored under for years, feeling as if they were the only one and feeling wrong and different.
Your generation got a leg up on their sexual confidence and identity unlike any before. You could start to explore and do at an age when those before you were still trying to figure out if they were not sick somehow. That’s an advantage.
So I ‘m glad that you plan to be about and speak up for, and to your own sexual views. That is valuable.
I said:
You replied:
From my read of what you are saying here, am I correct to believe that you feel a sub group of women active on the site (which you term tickle-prostitutes etc) have somehow ruined it for all women on the forum by creating some form of ideal in the male users heads? Was this the point you wanted to make?
I want to point out that my statement was in reply to a quote from your first letter where you said:
Most of the women here ARE not “tickle-porn actresses, or tickle-prostitues”. MOST of the women here are average every day people whom you might meet in the street, or at the grocery. Using such a broad brush as you have is a true disservice to the many many women of our community who post here often. It is these many women, the MAJORITY of the women here, that I felt you insulted with your statement.
I said:
You asked:
Examples? Sure. When we started, like almost every fetish site on the net the ratio of men to women was a ton to 1. Like most adult orient sites women simply did not feel secure speaking up or being active. So we took steps to make things different. We made a point of finding female moderators who took the role of community leaders in showing other women that they were welcome here. We sat down hard on the people who treated women poorly whenever we found them, and made sure that when issues came up they were dealt with quickly.
We supplied the platform for local gatherings to organize and start to meet. This put real people in face to face interaction, and let women comfortably enter the fetish in places and times of their own choosing where they felt safe.
We encouraged female writers and artists, and always have supported all mixes of tickling never segregating any one type into a ghetto where it was left apart. You can find f/f f/m m/f and m/m material in all our media forums together and treated as equally valid and having a right to be here. And we sat on people who tried to drive any one sort away.
All these things were done to make the TMF more inclusive and open to members. No mater their gender or sexual likes.
Your issues with the media sections, in my opinion, are based around an idea of what you feel they should be. I won’t try to assume what that is, but based on this quote from your OP:
I get an idea where you are coming from. It’s a take on the sex positive concept that was first introduced in the 70’s and later morphed into a few different branches of sexual identity conception in the 80’s and 90’s.
I don’t think that people here are ‘out of control sex drives’ I think that many who come here would like to find a partner where tickling was a regular part of their greater relationship. That is their ideal. However finding partners who share ones enthusiasm for things can be tricky, and its not limited to tickling.
Like anal sex? There are partners out there for you, but not every partner is going to be up for it. Like some over the knee spanking? Some partners will happily put you over their laps and redden your ass, but some will balk at causing you any pain and cannot do it. And so on.
So the TMF’s media sections become stand-ins for people who can’t find it in their real life. The read a story, watch a clip, look at some art, and close their eyes and use their minds to go to a place they wish they were and enjoy a moist moment.
Media can and always will serve people who lack a real outlet for whatever reason. And the TMF has become a natural place for people to gather tickling media at.
This is not a way people separate tickling from themselves, but strive to keep it a part of their life.
Remember everyone does not have the luxury of discarding a person whom they match well with in almost every way. Relationships are often compromises between what we desire and what we can find.
Will people use the site to ‘hook up?’ yes indeed. Just like they use face book, e-harmony and any other number of web hubs. With so many of our members being in their 20’s is it no surprise that many are not ready to commit to anything, and just want sexual fun? Later in life finding something more becomes a goal, and people start to look for ways to do that.
You closed with this:
Ok, other then Addie whome you singled out, could you please make me a short list of the other women who post here that you consider to be porn chicks and prostitutes? Show me half a dozen. Just six.
Then as an exercise make me a list of women who post here who are not those things. Make it as long as you like, but make it at least six also.
I understand that you feel that the male focused media is degrading and insulting to women. That is a view and complaint that has been the center of anti-media arguments for a long time.
Perhaps the issue here is that your perspective is different then many members. Let me try one last thing.
There are two types of tickle fans out there
Group 1) The Sadists
Group 2) the Sensualists
Group one is much much bigger then group two.
Group two sees tickling as a form of sensual sex play, a form of pleasant stimulation. It’s done in a form that is not unlike oral sex. It’s an action taken to give pleasure to the partner through stimulation that feels good.
In this view we have no degradation. It’s a consensual sex positive activity of mutual pleasure.
Then we have group One
Tickling can be a form of sadism. It’s deriving enjoyment from the infliction of suffering upon another.
By the very definition of in this view, there will be a degree or aspect of degradation in any media involving the act. Can’t escape it, someone is being used. Done to. Made to suffer for another’s pleasure.
Part of the issue you may have here is that you are in group two looking at group one.
Group one is the big group that pays the freight. They are the ones the ads are made for, It’s really that simple. You might not like how they approach the fetish, but it is a real one, and also the majority view.
I welcome debate. It’s one reason the site is here. I hope that your evening has been a good one.
Myriads
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Except that I haven't done that at all. That is what you're doing. You said I made veiled blanket insults to every 'important' person on this forum, by calling all of the women on here tickle prostitutes and tickle porn stars. I said that I wasn't calling the women who weren't professionals professionals, I was just pointing out that there are very few women here and that most of them are professionals.
You then chose to ignore my point addressing why your statement was incorrect, and said that this was a site of normal people who were all about building long lasting friendships and relationships. You said that the one exception to this was the banner ads. I pointed out that you were wrong here as well.
You then chose to ignore my point addressing why your statement was incorrect AGAIN, and flounced off.
You are the one trolling on my thread, because you can't listen to and respect what people in this community say unless it's about women's feet.
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That makes no sense. You're lame. *put on ignore*
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I have been to a gathering, actually several. Have you? Even to...one? When I went to NEST, the LARGEST tickling gathering that EXISTS, I met 3 "professional women", and there were a lot of women there. The three professional women started out as regular women who simply posted here. And as a matter of fact, they REMAIN regular women who simply have a side business. The rest? Your everyday women without any hand in the business area of tickling. Like Myriads said more or less, I'm wondering where your numbers are coming from. (And at NEST, I believe the number of people that attended this year were in the 130 person region, with nearly half being female.)
It seems you are taking the mentality that if people don't line up with how you think they should be, then they obviously don't count as part of a successful community. They aren't lepers and we aren't in paradise. For the stipulations it seems you are forming as the thread goes along, all of 10 will join. A good chunk of regular people who are continuous posters are active members who would PARTICIPATE in something like what you want to make, and are friends of people you're continually insulting or ARE the people you're insulting. You can't open a store and call every customer a dickface who walks through the door. Customers frown on that.
I have to be honest, when I read your initial post I thought...Yeah, I get where she's going. If she CAN, it would be really cool. Now I'm feeling like you have a temper and one that likes to fire insults and twist words at that. It's turned me off from it. I can respect your ideas, but I can't respect how you're speaking to others here or how you're treating them.
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One? Two? Most of these usernames are androgynous, so how would I even know? It means nothing, because everything I said still stands. This is a place for the instant sexual gratification of men, women's sexuality is degraded on here, and because some women like it doesn't make this any less true. In addition, over the years I've seen more than a couple threads with women complaining about the unfriendliness of this place. Thirdly, I know women ticklephiles outside the board who eschew it like I do because of the climate.
Uh, I just made a long and passionate post about how we should take pride in our fringe/queer sexuality despite what mainstream society might have to say about it, can you read? I'm not anti-sex at all - I don't like that women's sexuality is marginalized and exploited on here, and within the rest of the community. I also think that our community can rise above hook-up culture, like I said and start conceiving tickling as a sexual preference instead of some seedy kink that we separate from the rest of our lives. With a personality like yours, I understand why the thought of moving away from hook-up culture may scare you. make you sexually insecure 😉
See what you did there? You complain about the denigration of your own sexuality, and yet you turn around and do the same to others. I know you've convinced yourself that there are objective reasons why your sexual tastes are okay and m/f play is wrong, but what actually makes it different is that it's just not what you like. Also, you watch porn. You're a hypocrite.
In that post you quoted, I didn't say that my sexual tastes were ok and m/f is wrong - I said that my sexual tastes are ok but on this forum not respected, and continually put down. My sexual tastes as well as a respectful attitude towards women are not represented here. You're the hypocrite here for attacking diversity within your community, and then claiming that I'm the one doing that.
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ah ha ha - a woman criticizes porn, and it twists your briefs so bad you call her a man posing as a woman. breaking new ground, dude - how old are you, eleven? has the internet just been invented? go to diss school sir, get your degree. 
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lol - why? I've logged on like ten times in the past three years. Did you try to hit on me? You're like forty-eight years older than me, move on.
As strangely (or poorly I'll let the reader decide) worded as bloo's post is, I do need to address that they are correct when they say they are not alone. I am friends with a lot of lurkers, some in my area who I speak to frequently and a lot of them are women.
They do not wish to delurk because of the overly sexual nature of the forum and the feeling of being treated like a piece of meat. Also more than a few do not like the banner ads for all sorts of things they themselves do not like/understand because they are just starting to grasp their own sexuality as well as the fetish in a whole. And yes several of these persons also feel that every female here if not a "tickle model" wants to be or act like they want to be. They feel to a degree less than the rest of the ladies or they would be treated less than because they would not post pics of themselves, nor be involved in certain conversations or threads.
However...these women I know, who discuss these thoughts with me would never...and I mean NEVER insult the rest of the community. They feel everyone is comfortable with themselves on their own level and they would never tell someone else what is right or wrong. They would not even say anything to the "models" because while they may not agree with a lot of things they do or around the forum...or even the other women here that may act out...they feel a level of respect toward rest of the community.
In fact I have had calls from 4 of them today so they can tell me they had no idea who posted this and it was not them who was telling them their thoughts on things.
So while the message may be muddled to a degree...there are some people here who do feel the TMF is a breeding ground of "sex in your face" no matter where you turn and at times do wish there was a less "sexual" alternative, but then I remind them....sex on internet is everywhere. I just let them know to continue however they feel comfortable and to avoid the areas/things that are too much for them. Most ignore the ads and only visit some places.
To those that wonder, if they are coming here in the first place what do they expect? You are correct, the first time they come and realize they have a fetish, they do not know what to expect and are still learning themselves. And when finding this place, they want to know more but the only choice is stick around, even if its uncomfortable because there really is no other alternative.
Again, I am not defending what blootwentytoo said, but lending some merit to the overall thought and what they were trying to say (through/ inbetween the insults) because I know more than a few that feel the same way.
Rob
They do not wish to delurk because of the overly sexual nature of the forum and the feeling of being treated like a piece of meat. Also more than a few do not like the banner ads for all sorts of things they themselves do not like/understand because they are just starting to grasp their own sexuality as well as the fetish in a whole. And yes several of these persons also feel that every female here if not a "tickle model" wants to be or act like they want to be. They feel to a degree less than the rest of the ladies or they would be treated less than because they would not post pics of themselves, nor be involved in certain conversations or threads.
However...these women I know, who discuss these thoughts with me would never...and I mean NEVER insult the rest of the community. They feel everyone is comfortable with themselves on their own level and they would never tell someone else what is right or wrong. They would not even say anything to the "models" because while they may not agree with a lot of things they do or around the forum...or even the other women here that may act out...they feel a level of respect toward rest of the community.
In fact I have had calls from 4 of them today so they can tell me they had no idea who posted this and it was not them who was telling them their thoughts on things.
So while the message may be muddled to a degree...there are some people here who do feel the TMF is a breeding ground of "sex in your face" no matter where you turn and at times do wish there was a less "sexual" alternative, but then I remind them....sex on internet is everywhere. I just let them know to continue however they feel comfortable and to avoid the areas/things that are too much for them. Most ignore the ads and only visit some places.
To those that wonder, if they are coming here in the first place what do they expect? You are correct, the first time they come and realize they have a fetish, they do not know what to expect and are still learning themselves. And when finding this place, they want to know more but the only choice is stick around, even if its uncomfortable because there really is no other alternative.
Again, I am not defending what blootwentytoo said, but lending some merit to the overall thought and what they were trying to say (through/ inbetween the insults) because I know more than a few that feel the same way.
Rob
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Hey, hook-up culture is a choice. If that's your choice, then that's a legitimate way of life. But I feel as though the community focuses on hooking up, and not dating and relationships, because we don't think that it can be a legitimate basis for a relationship. A lot of us are out there looking for our match in the vanilla world. I don't think that makes sense, I think we would be happier if we entered relationships with each other instead of just hooking up.
If you're not a relationship person, then good for you - your life will always be a lot easier with this fetish.
And yet I bring this up and get attacked by twenty different guys and you. Read the personals: how many are guys looking to go on a date? How many are guys looking to just tickle a girl? How many are tickle prostitutes, advertising? How many are tickle pimps advertising their stable?
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I don't know which Women's Studies Department is responsible for your education and your attitude, but I'd say they owe you a refund. I mean really, do you have a concept of what your words mean, or are they just a mantra you repeat like a feminist parrot? What does it mean, "The instant sexual gratification of men?" You're in love with that phrase; what does it really mean to you?
I know our penises can be offputting and a little scary to you. Trust me, we're used to that. But your hysterical, holier-than-thou attitude toward male sexuality is not the attitude of a woman, but of a girl. One who badly needs to grow up.
blootwentytoo
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Oh. And if this isn't The pot calling the kettle *****.
For the millionth time, I wasn't calling female ticklephiles *****s. Are you really this dense? Do you really think I created a thread lamenting that women aren't respected on here, identified myself as a female ticklephile, and then whipped around and called all female ticklephiles "porn actresses" as an insult?
Yes, I've hooked up. I'll likely hook up in the future. That's what we do, right? I'm suggesting that we move away from that as a community. That we can have our sexual and relationship needs met with one stone. I understand you're not a relationship girl, but I really don't understand why this is so insulting to everyone.
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Ok Myriads, at some point I will point out all the tickle prostitutes and porn actresses, and all the other stuff I find offensive on here. I'll I can say about everythign you've said is that you're just saying "well, it's not perfect but that's the way it is", and you're not taking into account what this site does to encourage the way it is.
Vanilla porn advocates constantly make the argument that porn is just there because men can't "get it" in real life. Well, that's because "real life" defines a women and her value solely by the instant sexual gratification that she can give to men. That's what vanilla porn does, and that's what this site does.
Vanilla porn advocates constantly make the argument that porn is just there because men can't "get it" in real life. Well, that's because "real life" defines a women and her value solely by the instant sexual gratification that she can give to men. That's what vanilla porn does, and that's what this site does.
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Again, this may be part of the difficulty. If YOU want to move away from that, then go for it! But, none of us has the right to expect everyone else to do something simply because it works for us. The community becoming more female friendly isn't dependant upon that. It's dependant upon respect for others...which you've shown little of yourself in this thread.
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RobAce for the win!
Tell your friends I'm sorry that even if my idea comes to fruition, it will probably take a very long time. But, since their fetish is a part of them for the rest of their lives, they should speak out about what makes them uncomfortable about the community. they're as much a part of it as anyone else.
Tell your friends I'm sorry that even if my idea comes to fruition, it will probably take a very long time. But, since their fetish is a part of them for the rest of their lives, they should speak out about what makes them uncomfortable about the community. they're as much a part of it as anyone else.
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Why are you so anti-woman, ann? We can't we have a more female friendly community, we can't form serious relationships with each other. do you think you're being a good obedient girl by falling in line with what men want and expect?
